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Subject: The Western World propaganda about MACEDONIA AND THE MACEDONIAN NATION!
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The Western World propaganda about MACEDONIA AND THE MACEDONIAN NATION!

http://www.acdi-cida.gc.ca/CIDAWEB/webcountry.nsf/VLUDocEn/FormerYugoslavRepublicofMacedonia-Projects


http://www.cc.ece.ntua.gr/~conster/PageData/proposed_names.htm


Proposed names for FYROM


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Since the name "Macedonia" cannot be justified for FYROM, we must see if 
there are other names that suit that state better. Here are 2 proposed 
names:

Vardaria
The area of FYROM, just as soon the WWI ended was named as Vardaska Banovina 
which means the Vardar (Axios) river valley. That was the first name that 
was invented for that specific area as soon as it was liberated from the 
Othoman occupation. It certainly is most suitable for FYROM, since the term 
Vardaria fits to all the area of FYROM (while the term "Macedonia" doesn't) 
and it was invented to identify FYROM (while the name "Macedonia" was 
invented to identify Greeks).

Centro-Balkanian Republic
This is the second most fitting name for FYROM, since it geographically 
describes FYROM 100%, and as a name there is no "national" character, which 
means that it can be used to identify the multi-national state of FYROM.

Any other proposed names are welcome.
Help those people find a name for them, because it is really embarrassing 
(and pathetic) for them to steal names that are already in use!


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Updated 25 March 1999


READ ABOUT MACEDONIA!

THE TRUTH ABOUT MACEDONIA AND THE MACEDONIAN NATION!

Message From:

The Internal Macedonian Revolutionary Organization - Macedonian for the 
Macedonians (VMRO-MNM)!

Tihs is not a commercial. This is about a nation that has suffered deeply, a 
nation the world has forgotten about.
The Macedoian nation has been robbed of its history, traditions, culture, 
identity, land and so on. Everything the athenians, the "bulgarians", the 
serbs and rhe "albanians" are writing is really Macedonian. We Macedonians 
have suffered enough.We want to to show the world our struggle for for 
justice.

The media of the western world has never showed the truth about Macedonia, 
only "propaganda news".
This is the only wey for us to make our voices heard and to inform the 
world.

If you want to know the truth about Macedonia and the Macedonian nation, 
please visit the web site: www.vmro-mnm.com

Alo "atina", "sofija", "belgrad" i "tirana" ovde MAKEDONIJA!
Hallo "athens", "sofija", "belgrad" and "tirana" here is MACEDONIA!

MAKEDONIJA NA MAKEDONCITE!
MACEDONIA FOR THE MACEDONIANS!

JAS SUM MAKEDONEC A NE FYROMEC!
NIE SME MAKEDONCI A NE FYROMCI!

VECNO DA ZIVEE MAKEDONSKATA ZEMJA!
VECNO DA ZIVEE MAKEDONSKIOT NAROD!

LONG LIVE MACEDONIAN!
LONG LIVE THE MACEDONIAN NATION!

MACEDONIA BELONGS TO THE MACEDONIANS NO ONE ELSE.


Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet
President of the Macedonian Organization VMRO-MNM


Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet
Koppargården 11 A
261 43  LANDSKRONA
SWEDEN
+46 418 10554

Oct 10th 1995

The UNITED NATIONS
Secretary General
Boutros Boutros-Ghali
NEW YORK
N.Y., USA


There are 20 countries in the world that are harassing and discriminates the 
Macedonian people. Now we have had enough!!

The politicians in the rest of the world must stop this harassment and 
discrimination against our people. The athenians ("greeks") gets help from 
the 20 countries that are against the Macedonian people. 15 belonging to the 
European Union, then there is USA, Canada, Australia, Russia and Norway.

The athenians has had help to force themselves to our symbol and now they 
want to take our Macedonian name.

The 20 countries are encouraging to war in Macedonia and so will it be if 
the harassment of the Macedonian people continues. But they can not win 
neither with weapons nor money. They can not decide what another country 
should be called. The western countries can not decide over the Macedonian 
people. They can not take our symbol or our name.

The western countries should instead stop the racism and fascism that are 
spreading more and more in the countries, immigrants are abused, 
discriminated and killed. Of the 20 countries it is first USA that is trying 
to destroy Macedonia and the Macedonian people.

Bill Clinton has very friendly connections with Athens. He is playing the 
lead part in the Macedonian destruction. I think that Bill Clinton should 
take care of the problems in his own country first and foremost. Millions of 
people dies in the streets because of starvation. The racism against the 
original inhabitants, against the black population and against others, 
"unwanted" are increasing. Take care of these problems first, Bill Clinton, 
before you meddle in other countries business!!

The "big" countries wants to play masters of the world. They want to decide 
in other countries and change their identity. Our identity will stay with us 
as Macedonian people in a Macedonian state, in our hearts.

We can not accept that our king or our name is taken from us. the whole 
world knows that Filip the second and Aleksandar Makedonski were Macedonians 
not athenians. The world can not change history. They can not make our kings 
into athenians.

The historical findings that have been made have all been situated in the 
historical Macedonia not in Athens. When the grave of Filip the second was 
discovered in 1977 they found documents written in the Macedonian language 
not in the athenian language. If Filip the second had been alive he would 
never accept that the Macedonian symbols would be taken from his country. I 
do not understand why the athenians are not ashamed when they reject their 
own kings in advantage of our Macedonians. It was not until three years ago 
that the athenians put our Macedonian king Aleksandar III Makedonski on 
their coins. Why then, when they had not cared before?

Is it of fear that we would take back the Aegean part of Macedonia, is it of 
fear that in that case Athens would be one of the poorest countries in 
Europe? They can not eat stones and grass in Athens. The athenians does not 
know anything about Macedonian history. They only know propaganda and they 
are very good at that

We can not give away our macedonian kings. They are for the Macedonian 
people our parents and they will always be in our hearts. We are proud of 
them and will continue to pray for them. The Macedonian symbols will stay in 
Macedonia. They are Macedonian, Not athenians as everyone knows. We have the 
right to use our symbols and call ourselves Macedonians.

The Macedonians that live in the Aegean part of Macedonia, the Pirin part of 
Macedonia and in "Albania" suffers. In the Aegean part of Macedonia 
everything has been taken from them. Their language is forbidden, they have 
been forced to change their names. Their Macedonian identity has been stolen 
from them. In "Albania", where 350 000 Macedonians live they are allowed to 
speak their language but they have no other rights, nor legal or human. In 
Macedonia "albanians" have the right to speak their own language and the 
have more rights than any Macedonian have in Macedonia.

Two weeks ago a Macedonian was imprisoned in Lerim in the Aegean part of 
Macedonia. His only crime was that he called himself a Macedonian. We want 
to know how he is doing, imprisoned by the athenians. If he is tortured the 
athenians will pay for this. We demand that he is released immediately. We 
also demand that other Macedonians that are imprisoned for the same "crime" 
are released.

We do not know how many Macedonians that are in prison in the Aegean part of 
Macedonia and in the Pirin part of Macedonia, but they are many. Hundreds of 
Macedonians have been captured in the Pirin part of Macedonia, many have 
just disappeared. The bulgarians are saying that they committed suicide and 
so on. Do the west think this is right toward the Macedonian people? We do 
not hear You protest.

I have written earlier about the Macedonian situation to the European 
Parliament, the UN in Geneva and the European Court. I have sent copies to 
the television and newspapers. But they are afraid to show it on television. 
Only two newspapers dared to write about it,two very small articles.

120 000 Aegean Macedonians, living in Macedonia, were allowed to vote in the 
Macedonian election. Neither were the 1.2 million Macedonians, living 
abroad, allowed to vote although they had Macedonian citizenship's. But 
nearly 200 000 "albanians" from Kosovo-Metohija and "Albania" who came to 
Macedonia between 1992-1994 were allowed to vote, and they had no Macedonian 
citizenship's. This was no election in the name of democracy, but a 
falsification.

Because of all this, Kiro Gligorov can not be called President of Macedonia. 
He has taken the command with help from the European Union. There is a list 
that name 12 people that are not welcome to Australia and the western Europe 
by the macedonians that live there. The dictator Kiro Gligorov and his Mafia 
is on that list.

The dictator Kiro Gligorov and his Mafia has sold our Macedonian flag to the 
athenians. Now he is going to sell our name. Who knows what will happen 
after that now when the athenians decides in our country. Perhaps will our 
language be forbidden. Perhaps we have to change our names into athenian 
names, just as the athenians forced the Macedonians in the Aegean part of 
Macedonia. The Macedonian people will never accept the communists and the 
Mafia selling the Macedonian symbols, the flag, the name, to the fascist 
Athens. We will show the whole world that we have the right to our 
Macedonian symbols.

I am asking all Macedonians all over the world,  refuse to use the communist 
passport with communist symbols. Do not visit the communist embassies. At 
all sport events, gatherings and so on, show them our Macedonian flag and 
not the communist flag. This way we can protest and show the world that we 
do not accept what the communists, the Mafia and the athenian fascists are 
doing to our country.

The Macedonian people does not stand by the dictator Kiro Gligorov as the 
media claim. In Macedonia the people have hanged the Macedonian flag on 
every building, on balconies, in gardens, everywhere, to show where they 
stand. This the media should have recorded and shown to the world.

I am asking all Macedonians that are living abroad to do as their 
fellow-countrymen have done in Macedonia. Show the whole world that we 
Macedonians still have our symbols, our flag in our homes. When the 
communists put their flag on their communist embassies, take them down and 
burn them. Macedonians in the United States! Do not let them hang the 
communist flag at the UN building. Gligorov and the Mafia has betrayed their 
country and people. Macedonians! Do not accept that everything is taken from 
us, that the Mafia is selling out our country. As long as we stand together, 
we can make it. The dictator Kiro Gligorov and the Mafia leader Stojan Andov 
can not arrest millions of Macedonians or kill us all. The dictator Kiro 
Gligorov and the Mafia leader Stojan Andov have treated the Macedonian 
people very badly.

They sold the industries, owned by the state, to relatives, friends and 
themselves. They received money from the state and bought the industries. 
Many people became unemployed. They who still works at the Mafia industries 
have not been paid for the last 5-6 months. Instead of their salary, the 
receive old tins, macaroni, flour and meat.

The dictator Kiro Gligorov and the Mafia leader Stojan Andov have stolen 
money from hundreds of thousands of Macedonians. Macedonians that have 
struggled and saved just so they could have something for their old age. The 
money is now gone. Macedonians, living abroad, have deposit money in 
Macedonia so that they one day might return, the money is now gone. The 
total sum that has "disappeared" amounts to several million dollars. The 
Macedonian people do not need any help from the International Bank to 
survive. We have agriculture, factories and mines. If it had not been for 
the communists and the Mafia, who are blackmailing the Macedonian people, we 
would have had a very good life. The money that Macedonia has borrowed 
abroad have the dictator Kiro Gligorov and the Mafia leader Stojan Andov put 
in their own pockets.One day will the money, that Kiro Gligorov and Stojan 
Andov stole from the Macedonian people, be returned, when they are arrested 
for torture and murder. The VMRO-DPMNE has proof.

Swedish newspapers and television have talked about the attempt on dictator 
Kiro Gligorov´s life. The VMRO-DPMNE is accused of the attempt and is called 
terrorists. Media is saying that the Macedonian police has arrested 6 people 
from the VMRO-DPMNE. The truth is that around hundred innocent people have 
been arrested.
The whole world is blaming the largest party in Macedonia, the VMRO-DPMNE 
for the attempt on dictator Kiro Gligorov´s life. VMRO-DPMNE is called 
nationalistic and terroristic, everything to cover up who is really guilty 
and to destroy the democratic forces that exists in Macedonia.

Behind the attempt on dictator Kiro Gligorov stands the Mafia leader Stojan 
Andov. He is the one that decides in the communist Parliament now. He has 
been Ambassador for former Yugoslavia in the USA. He and his CIA friends is 
behind the attempt on Gligorov's life. The CIA is specialist, everything 
perfectly planned at the second. There are no doubts that it is Stojan Andov 
that would like to kill the dictator Kiro Gligorov. He wants to get rid of 
an old man and take over the leadership.

I am not afraid to tell the world about this. I want to tell Bill Clinton 
that I am not afraid of him or his CIA-agents. They have my address, I can 
even send them a picture of me. I am not afraid to die, I will die as a 
Macedonian and a descendant to Filip the second. I know what has happened to 
people in Macedonia that have criticised the dictator Kiro Gligorov and the 
Mafia leader Stojan Andov. The truth will come out.

The Media writes that Kiro Gligorov is important for the peace. That is all 
wrong. they write that the macedonian people do not want him to die. That is 
true, we do not want him to die. He an his Mafia must be court-martial for 
torture, murder and theft against the Macedonian people.

This that has happened to Kiro Gligorov has strengthen his and Stojan 
Andov's power abroad. They are blaming the largest party, VMRO-DPMNE with 
80% electors in Macedonia and 95 % abroad.

We, the Macedonian people, are proud of our Macedonian leader Ljubco 
Georgievski. Together we are strong. We will fight, together with him, 
against communism, the Mafia and the western world that wishes to destroy 
Macedonia and let Macedonia go under.

The 20 countries must take out all documents from their records concerning 
the Bucharest conference1913 where Macedonia was divided into three parts, 
50% to Athens ("Greece"), 30% to Serbia and 20% to Bulgaria. The USA was of 
course involved in the deal. There You will find all the evidence.

The Macedonian people are very disappointed at the western world, the USA 
especially. The USA can not buy our land. We are not going to let american 
businessmen come to Macedonia and explore the people.

The UN, EU and Bill Clinton must return our symbol. Do not try to change the 
name of the Macedonian people. You can take back the money you have paid the 
dictator Kiro Gligorov and the Mafia.

This letter has been written by me for the macedonian people and for our 
country Macedonia.

Copies are sent to

The Macedonian unions in the whole world
The Macedonian Embassy in Stockholm
The athenian Embassy in Stockholm
The european Parliament
The dictator Kiro Gligorov
The american Embassy in Stockholm

I am also sending a cassette to You with a debate between the Mafia and 
honest politicians.

Macedonian patriot

Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet


Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet
Koppargården 13 C
261 43  LANDSKRONA
SWEDEN

Aug 27th 1997

To the Secretary-General Kofi Annan,
The United Nations, New York

Our ancestors, the ancient MACEDONIANS, where the first people on Balkan. 
They lived peacefully on the Balkan peninsula and cultivated the fertile 
land.When the Arab tribes, they who in our time are called the athenians, 
came to southern Europe it was this nation they met, our ancestors, the 
ancient MACEDONIANS.
The athenians have always been a week nation compared to the MACEDONIANS. 
They have always been subordinated the MACEDONIANS and therefore they have 
tried to vindicate themselves against the MACEDONIANS under the last century 
by trying to steal the MACEDONIAN history, culture, sport, science and so 
on, since they themselves know nothing or can nothing.

The Olympic Games, for example, is not athenian. This have the athenians 
stolen from the MACEDONIANS. The athenians have not found out anything by 
themselves. At the Olympic Games Openings should the first country who 
enters be, MACEDONIA.

Europe do not want to acknowledge MACEDONIA since they were subordinated 
MACEDONIA for several centuries, under Justinjan and Konstantin, and that is 
something they rather would like to forget.

In this letter I write mostly about the athenian occupation force and about 
how they treat the MACEDONIANS in the Aegean part of MACEDONIA. I would like 
to say to my brothers and sisters in the Pirin part of MACEDONIA and in Mala 
Prespa:
I know that you suffer as much as our brothers and sisters in the Aegean 
part of MACEDONIA. That I write mostly about the Aegean part of MACEDONIA is 
because the athenians are trying to steal our history, culture, sport, 
science, our name, our symbol, the symbol of Kutles, the star with 16 beams, 
our MACEDONIAN flag and our country. I want to show how we MACEDONIANS are 
being treated and how the athenians are lying.

The athenians have stolen our symbol, the symbol of Kutles, the star with 16 
beams, our MACEDONIAN flag, now they are after our name. We have to be 
strong and united so that this will not happen. We have to show Athens and 
rest of the world that we are serious, that we do not tolerate anything more 
from them. We are not going to let them treat us as if we were second-rated 
people. We come from an ancient nation with ancient lineage. We should be 
proud over who we are, descendants of Filip Makedonski the second of 
MACEDONIA and Aleksandar Makedonski the Great of MACEDONIA. This we may 
never forget and we shall never let the rest of the world forget it, at 
least of all the athenians. If we only stand strong and united the truth 
will eventually come through.They can not hide the truth from the world, we 
MACEDONIANS will have satisfaction.

The athenians are calling the Aegean part of MACEDONIA theirs, by what 
right? They have absolutely no roots in the Aegean part of MACEDONIA. They 
are not MACEDONIANS, they do not speak MACEDONIAN, they do not know anything 
about the MACEDONIAN culture, they have no connection with Aleksandar 
Makedonski the Great of MACEDONIA.

Not long ago, the ordinary athenian did not know what MACEDONIA was, now it 
is athenian! This is laughable and testifies about the athenians feeble 
intelligence.

The athenian command have tried to conquer the whole Aegean part of 
MACEDONIA, by torture of the locals, the MACEDONIANS, by throwing out the 
MACEDONIANS from their own country, by transferring a large number of 
athenian refugees to the Aegean part of MACEDONIA, by forbidding the 
MACEDONIAN language and the MACEDONIAN culture. They have stolen the 
MACEDONIANS country, the athenians took the country by force and treated the 
MACEDONIANS  as animals!!

What has Europe done to help the MACEDONIANS? They have just stood there and 
watched, they have just kept silent and accepted the athenians cruel 
treatment of the MACEDONIANS!

Harilaos Trikoupis, athenian Prime Minister 1882-1895, said:
When the great war comes, MACEDONIA will become greek or bulgarian, 
depending on who will win, if the Bulgarians take over, they will make the 
population into slaves, if we take over, we will make all of them into 
greeks.

In 1903 MACEDONIA, lead by the VMRO organization, tried to free itself from 
the ottoman slavery. It failed.
In 1912 whole MACEDONIA was occupied. The Aegean part of MACEDONIA came 
under athenian occupation force. The athenians started ethnic cleansing, 
MACEDONIANS fled in masses, MACEDONIAN villages were burnt down. At the 
Bucharest conference in 1913, after the Balkan war between Athens, Serbia 
and Bulgaria, MACEDONIA was divided between the three occupation countries. 
Serbia stool the Vardar part of MACEDONIA, Bulgaria the Pirin part of 
MACEDONIA and the athenians stool the largest part, the Aegean part of 
MACEDONIA

They stool a country from a nation, they divided, split families.NOBODY 
absolutely NOBODY asked what the MACEDONIANS wanted!

The athenian state denies that there are MACEDONIANS in the Aegean part of 
MACEDONIA, a nation with their own language, MACEDONIAN, and with their own 
culture, MACEDONIAN. The athenian state refuses MACEDONIANS their own 
identity. This is a violation of INTERNATIONAL HUMAN RIGHTS LAWS!

The athenian state denies that the language that is spoken by the 
MACEDONIANS in the Aegean part of MACEDONIA exists. They deny that it is the 
same language as that who is spoken in the republic of MACEDONIA (the Vardar 
part of MACEDONIA). Not even the language in the republic exists according 
to the athenians. According to them this is some local linguistic 
peculiarity that has borrowed words from Bulgaria, Athens, Turkey and so on. 
The athenians should be ashamed to make such childish statements. The 
MACEDONIAN language is acknowledged by linguists in the whole world (except, 
of course, by the occupation countries, Athens and Bulgaria), therefore it 
is uneducated to make such statements.

The MACEDONIAN children in the Aegean part of MACEDONIA are forbidden to 
learn the MACEDONIAN language. The MACEDONIANS have no right to teach their 
children MACEDONIAN, they have no right to start schools, they have no right 
to teach them anything about the grand MACEDONIAN history, culture and 
traditions. Children that speaks MACEDONIAN in school can be punished. They 
can also be reported and the parents will then be called to a questioning.

That Athens is not a democracy, we know. This occupation force is denying 
the MACEDONIANS their cultural inheritance. They force them to forget their 
own language and their own customs. What explanation gives the occupation 
force for their cruel treatment of the MACEDONIAN nation? They say that the 
MACEDONIAN language do not exist, that the MACEDONIANS do not exist!
WHEN GOD GAVE US INTELLIGENCE, HE MUST HAVE SKIPPED THE ATHENIANS.

Here is a text that was written under the Balkan war, when the Aegean part 
of MACEDONIA was occupied by the athenians.

Georgios I - The King of the greeks

Taking into account the developed need for the urgent and temporary 
organization of the administration of the territories in Macedonia, occupied 
by the greek army. At the proposal of the Ministerial Council, we have 
decided and command the following.
The minister of Justice Mr. K. Raktivan, as representative of the greek 
Government, is instructed to organize the affairs concerning the temporary 
administration of the occupied territories.
The president of the Ministerial Council is to announce and carry out this 
decree.

Salonika, October 31, 1912.

Georgios Ministerial Council
President Elefterios Venizelos
Members:
L.K. Koromilas
K.D. Raktivan
Eman Repulis
I. D. Cirimokos
L. Mihalakopulos
H.A. Stratos

According to the athenians today the MACEDONIANS do not exist. The only 
minority that exists in the country is a muslim minority. The athenian 
Government acknowledge the Turks only as a religious group, as athenian 
Muslims, but they are not acknowledged as a turkish minority. Their identity 
has been taken from them so properly they are not at all acknowledged

It is terrible to know that there are MACEDONIANS in the Aegean part of 
MACEDONIA that dare not teach their children the MACEDONIAN language by fear 
of reprisals from the athenian occupation force. This children will grow up 
without being able to speak their mother tongue, without knowing about their 
culture. If it continues, soon their will be no MACEDONIANS that can speak 
their MACEDONIAN language. They will have forgotten their origin and the 
athenian occupation force will have won the last battle!

Their are neither textbooks in the MACEDONIAN language nor MACEDONIAN 
teachers. According to the Sevrès treaty that Athens signed in 1920, Athens 
should give minorities of not athenian origin certain rights. They were 
obliged to arrange schools for the minorities. A book, ABECEDAR, was also 
printed in Athens to bring forth the Nations United, as evidence that the 
athenians were going to fulfil their duties to the MACEDONIAN people. The 
athenians also explained that THE MACEDONIAN LANGUAGE WAS ACKNOWLEDGED.Of 
course, the MACEDONIANS never received any books. This was just something 
the athenians had "showed" the Nations United so that they would not 
interfere in the athenians treatment of the MACEDONIANS. The MACEDONIANS 
received nothing. No right to their language, their culture or human rights!

FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION, TO FREELY SAY WHAT YOU ARE THINKING, IS LIMITED FOR 
THE MACEDONIANS. THIS IS VIOLATION AGAINST INTERNATIONAL HUMAN RIGHTS LAWS.

MACEDONIANS have been tortured just because they have spoken. They are 
pursued by the state and the security police. They are terrorised and 
tortured. This have made the MACEDONIANS terrified. They do not dare to 
speak and they do not dare to stand up for their MACEDONIAN identity.

The MACEDONIANS in the Aegean part of MACEDONIA must show some more 
strength. Do not let the athenian occupation force oppress you. You are 
actually in your own country, it is they who are the intruders. You should 
not have to learn a foreign language in your own country.

The MACEDONIANS in the Aegean part of MACEDONIA are discriminated when they 
seek employment. Although they have the same education as the athenian 
refugees, perhaps even better, it is the refugees that receive employment, 
everything to stop the MACEDONIANS. The athenians are spying on the 
MACEDONIANS. They are registered. Everyone who are calling themselves 
MACEDONIANS are being discriminated. Education is of no importance, the 
athenians rather give the work to an uneducated athenian than to an educated 
MACEDONIAN.

Perhaps that is why Athens looks like it does. The uneducated, the 
incompetent is in power. They who are faithful to the athenian Government 
will get the job but they who contradict the state have to go.

The things the athenians are doing to the MACEDONIAN nation are crimes 
against international human rights laws. To stop this, the whole world 
should stand together, united, to boycott Athens.

Another evidence on how uncultivated the athenians are is this:
According to the athenians, Aleksandar Makedonski the Great of MACEDONIA is 
mentioned as a "Greek" in the old testament. "Greece" did not exit at that 
time when Aleksandar Makedonski the Great of MACEDONIA lived!! That name is 
a new invention from the middle of 1800.

According to the athenian constitution, the press is free, censor-ship and 
other similar measures are forbidden. Does the free word exist in Athens? 
NO!!

As I have written before, MACEDONIANS have been put in prison by the 
athenians just because they have dared to stand up and say what they think. 
That people call themselves MACEDONIANS is a terrible crime in Athens!! 
According to the athenians that is the same thing as to spread false 
propaganda about Athens and that there should exist MACEDONIANS in the 
Aegean part of MACEDONIA.

The MACEDONIANS in the Aegean part of MACEDONIA, who have criticised the 
athenian Government and wished for a open dialog with the Republic of 
MACEDONIA (the Vardar part of MACEDONIA), have been imprisoned.These are 
people who only want to have peace on Balkan.

The athenian Governments denial that the MACEDONIANS exist is a VIOLATION OF 
THE INTERNATIONAL HUMAN RIGHTS LAWS!

Here is a short history about what the MACEDONIANS have had to endure since 
the Balkan war.

Macedonian villages were burnt down by the athenians. MACEDONIANS were 
defiled. MACEDONIANS were deported.
In 1913 MACEDONIA was divided into three parts. Families were scattered. One 
people, one nation was scattered. By force, with help from Europe.
MACEDONIANS were forbidden to attend in international meetings. The 
occupants and Europe tried to rip apart and crush the oldest nation on 
Balkan, the MACEDONIANS.
Macedonians in the Aegean part of MACEDONIA were forced to move. Athenian 
refugees stole the MACEDONIANS land. The MACEDONIANS became a minority in 
their own country.
MACEDONIANS were refused civil rights, education, their MACEDONIAN language, 
their religion and culture by the athenians.
After first have acknowledged the MACEDONIANS as MACEDONIANS, that speaks 
MACEDONIAN, the athenians started to say that the MACEDONIANS did not exist.
The athenians destroyed the cyrillic inscriptions on MACEDONIAN churches, 
graves and icons. They forbid the MACEDONIANS to hold sermons in the 
MACEDONIAN language.
The athenians forced the MACEDONIANS to change their names, their 
MACEDONIANS names to athenians names. There are people today that have tried 
to get their old MACEDONIAN names back. The athenians refuses since, as they 
say, they are foreign names!!
The athenians dug up MACEDONIAN graves, removed the bones and burnt them. 
They erased the cyrillic inscriptions on the graves.
MACEDONIANS who demanded national rights were sentenced of High Treason.
In 1936, the dictator Metaxa sent innocent MACEDONIANS to internment camps 
where they were tortured, murdered, slaughtered.
MACEDONIANS were terrorized and pursued.
The athenians forbid the MACEDONIAN language and tried to destroy the 
MACEDONIAN identity.
MACEDONIANS who spoke MACEDONIAN were imprisoned and tortured.
Under the second world war, MACEDONIAN partisans were gathered from whole 
MACEDONIA to fight against the fascists and the athenians. The MACEDONIANS 
almost recaptured Solun when Tito forced them to move to Sremski Front to 
fight the germans. They who refused, and they were many, were immediately 
executed! That way we lost Solun one more time to the occupants.
The athenians continued to terrorize the MACEDONIANS. They continued to 
change the names of MACEDONIAN places.
Under the civil war 1946-1949 civilian MACEDONIANS were put in concentration 
camps by the athenians. Many were executed since they were considered a 
threat to the athenian Government.
28 000 children were sent abroad by fear of what the athenians might do. 
These children have never been allowed to return to the Aegean part of 
MACEDONIA. Still today they are not even allowed to visit their own country, 
the Aegean part of MACEDONIA, by the occupants, the athenians!!
The MACEDONIANS who had been in the civil war lost their "citizen ship", 
their land and possessions were confiscated. The same thing was valid for 
the civilians who happened to be related to someone who had fought. The land 
was "given" to athenians. If you had been a partisan or not did not matter. 
Adults as well as children lost their properties.
But it is not only then MACEDONIANS lost their "citizen ship". MACEDONIANS 
who have left the Aegean part of MACEDONIA to work in another country, as 
people all over the world have done, have lost their "citizen ship" When 
they have come to visit their families they have not been let in to the 
country. There is even a law in Athens that approve of this immense crime 
against the Human Rights.
The athenians legalized concentration camps, there were no free speech, 
people with different opinions were oppressed. Everything according to the 
athenian law.
The athenians continued to confiscate the MACEDONIANS property long after 
the civil war.
MACEDONIANS in many villages were forced to renounce their mother tongue and 
only speak the language of the occupation force, athenian.
When the Military Junta seized power in Athens the insults against the Human 
Rights increased.
How is it today for the MACEDONIANS in the Aegean part of MACEDONIA?

The athenian occupation army tries to erase the MACEDONIAN language and the 
MACEDONIAN identity.
MACEDONIAN priests are threatened by death and their families are harassed.
The athenians forces the MACEDONIANS to send their 2-3 year old children to 
day care were the only language spoken is athenian. The day care is only for 
MACEDONIAN children.
In 1982 all refugees that was of athenian origin could return to Athens 
although they did not have any athenian citizen ship. In 1985 all who were 
of athenian origin could get their properties back. Of course, this was not 
valid the MACEDONIANS. MACEDONIANS who had lived in their own country, in 
the Aegean part of MACEDONIA, could not return to get their properties back 
from the athenian occupants. They who said that they were MACEDONIANS, born 
in the Aegean part of MACEDONIA, or that their parents were born there, were 
not allowed to return.
MACEDONIANS are not even allowed to visit their relatives in the Aegean part 
of MACEDONIA or attend funerals. They are not being let in by the 
occupants!!
The athenians prevent the MACEDONIANS to return to their country. Of course 
they are not athenians, they are MACEDONIANS and it is their country. 
Therefore do they not need athenian passport or that they are athenian 
citizens or of athenian origin to enter their own country, not on any 
account.
When the Republic of MACEDONIA became independent (the Vardar part of 
Macedonia) the athenian Government started a gigantic propaganda "machine" 
against the MACEDONIAN nation. They made the ordinary athenian  believe all 
the lies that the athenian Government filled them with. They made Europe 
believe their lies. But worse of all, they made highly educated  people, 
historians, writers and journalists, who should know better and know the 
history, to believe their lies.
They persuaded the world not to acknowledge MACEDONIA under its rightful 
name.
The athenians are spreading propaganda, that they have the right to the 
MACEDONIANS name, to the MACEDONIANS identity and to the MACEDONIANS history 
and culture. The MACEDONIANS, that they have oppressed, whose language, 
history, culture and identity they have tried to destroy.
The athenians demands that the republic of MACEDONIA shall change its own 
name. That they shall change their own flag and that the MACEDONIANS in the 
Vardar part of MACEDONIA (the Republic of MACEDONIA) should not care about 
their brothers and sisters in the occupied territories, the Pirin part of 
MACEDONIA, the Aegean part of MACEDONIA and Mala Prespa.
The corrupt "Government", the traitors and anti MACEDONIANS in MACEDONIA 
have already changed the flag. This is a disgrace! Well shall not give in to 
athenian dictatorship manners and MACEDONIAN Mafia manners.
When Australia acknowledged MACEDONIA (unfortunately under the wrong name, 
so properly it is not an acknowledgement) athenian extremists burnt down two 
MACEDONIAN churches in Australia.
The MACEDONIAN nation (not the Mafia Government ) followed the international 
sanctions against Serbia and stopped trading with them.
Athens closed illegally the "border" between the Vardar part of MACEDONIA 
and the Aegean part of MACEDONIA so that ordinary MACEDONIANS could not 
fetch their goods (only the Mafia Government and its followers could) that 
had arrived in Solun, the real capital of MACEDONIA. Also the could not ship 
out anything from Solun. But this was still, of course, no problem for the 
MACEDONIANS, they could have their goods brought in elsewhere.
This was something you could expect from the athenians, they who had 
tortured and murdered MACEDONIANS in the Aegean part of MACEDONIA.
Now the MACEDONIAN Mafia Government, who are in collusion with the athenian 
dictatorship regime, had a legitimate motive to change the MACEDONIAN flag, 
they blamed the sanctions!
To close the "border", as the athenians did, was a crime and the intention 
was that there were going to be a trial in the European Court. But the 
MACEDONIAN Mafia Government sold the MACEDONIAN flag, our symbol, cheap to 
the athenian dictatorship regime.
If MACEDONIA stand together and show the world what the athenians are doing, 
how they forge history and terrorise MACEDONIANS, the world would boycott 
Athens instead and exclude them from all international organizations.
They who live in the Vardar part of MACEDONIA are not allowed, by the 
athenians, to visit their relatives in the Aegean part of MACEDONIA. On the 
hand, they who live in the Aegean part of MACEDONIA can visit the Vardar 
part of MACEDONIA. but to do that you have to be strong to be able to endure 
the athenian custom officers harassment's. MACEDONIANS have to endure verbal 
torture, threats against themselves and their close ones.
They have been striped naked, out of house and been searched from head to 
foot. Documents, newspapers and cassettes have been confiscated, notebooks 
and telephone books have been copied.
They who have crossed the "border" have been registered. These names have 
then been published in athenian nationalistic newspapers. Everything to 
frighten the MACEDONIANS.
People in all countries have human rights. This is not valid the MACEDONIANS 
in the Aegean part of MACEDONIA, occupied by the athenians. I want to 
mention some human right laws that the athenians have signed and which they 
are obliged to follow:

Article 10 of the European convention
Everyone has the right to freedom of expression. This right shall include 
freedom to hold opinions and to receive and impart information and ideas. 
Without interference by public authority and regardless of frontiers.
UN. Universal declaration of human rights, Article 13
Everyone has the right to leave any country, including his own, as well as 
to return to his own country
The 1990 Document of the Copenhagen meeting
To belong to a national minority is a matter of a persons individual choice 
and no disantvantage may arise from the exercise of such choice. Persons 
belonging to national minorities have the right freely to express, preserve 
and develop their ethnic, cultural, linguistic or religious identity and to 
maintain and develop their culture in all its aspects, free of any attempts 
at assimilation against their will.
The Vienna declaration of October 1993
States should create the conditions necessary for persons belonging to 
national minorities to develop their culture, while preserving their 
religion, traditions and customs. These persons must be able to use their 
language both in private and in public and should be able to use it, under 
certain conditions, in their relations with the public authorities.
The United Nations convention on the rights of the child.
In those states which ethnic, religious or linguistic minorities or persons 
of indigenous origin exists, a child belonging to such a minority or who is 
indigenous shall not be denied the right, in community with other members of 
his or her group,to enjoy his or her own culture, to profess and practise 
his or her religion, or to use his or her own language.
These are just some of the Human Right Laws that the athenians are obligated 
to follow. Not one single law do they follow. They completely neglect these 
laws. They know that they wont be punished even if they break every law in 
the world.

The MACEDONIAN, Mr Sime Pandovski from Canada has written a book about the 
MACEDONIAN history. He has found evidence that MACEDONIA has a 7 500 year 
old history.

In his book, Mr Pandovski writes about the first school that was opened by 
Aleksandar Makedonski the Great of MACEDONIA. he writes that MACEDONIA is 
the Church of the World. In MACEDONIA there is no village without a church, 
no town without several churches. The first Christian church in the world, 
Sveta Sofija, was built by a MACEDONIAN, Konstantin. it was finished by 
another MACEDONIAN, Justinjan, born in Skopje. In the USA Mr Pandovski has 
found writings written in persian. In these writings you can read about 
Kleopatra, where she tells that she is of MACEDONIAN emperor blood, that she 
is a MACEDONIAN empress and that she is of the same MACEDONIAN emperor blood 
as Filip Makedonski the second of MACEDONIA and Aleksandar Makedonski the 
Great of MACEDONIA. In these writings it is written about when Kleopatra 
visited Aleksandar Makedonski the Great's funeral place in Aleksandria. 
There is a big difference in what you find in these writings and the picture 
the western world has shown people, in films and stories about Kleopatra. 
But we know Kleopatra was MACEDONIAN.

Mr Pandovski wrote a protest letter to Mr Eglund, Mayor in Toronto Canada, 
regarding a statue of Aleksandar Makedonski the Great of MACEDONIA that an 
athenian organization that calls itself Pan Makedoniki had built. The 
athenians had fasten a plate were it said that Herodot had said that 
Aleksandar the first was "greek". This was a serious mistake the athenians 
had made since the statue was of Aleksandar the third also called Aleksandar 
Makedonski the Great of MACEDONIA. After that Mr Pandovski and the 
MACEDONIANS had pointed out the error,  the athenians removed  the old plate 
and put a new one up that said that herodot had said that Aleksandar the 
third was "greek". Mr Pandovski and the MACEDONIANS in Toronto told Mr 
Eglund that Herodot was born in 484 BC and lived to 425 BC. Aleksandar 
Makedonski the Great of MACEDONIA was born in 356 BC and lived to 323 BC. 
How could then Herodot say anything about a person that was born 69 years 
after his death!

I just want to point out to you that reads this letter that "Greece" did not 
exist in that time. The name "Greece" was invented in the middle of 1800.

Soon the athenians probably will say that the vampires are basking in the 
sun in the middle of the day in Athens. Because they are like vampires and 
changes the history by night. They do not know anything about history.

Soon a new book by Mr Pandovski will be published - Kleopatra. I believe 
that the book will be published both in MACEDONIAN and english so that it 
can be in libraries over the whole world and all people can read it.

Professor of Philosophy Angelina Markos tells us that the truth about 
MACEDONIA lies hidden in archives in the Vatikan, Istanbul and Aleksandria.

Professor Markos has found proof about MACEDONIA, its history and the 
MACEDONIAN people. Proof that involves Herodot, Ksenofon, Aristotel and 
Platon. She has found their reports and through them found the history of 
MACEDONIA. To do the MACEDONIAN history, culture and philosophy complete, 
the Vatikan has to open the archives. The old Romans were the last people 
who collected material from MACEDONIA and these lies hidden today in the 
Vatikan. The archives in Selenskata Carigradska Patriatska must also be 
opened. There lies the most valuable writings about the MACEDONIAN history. 
The archives in Aleksandria must be opened. Aleksandria was under a long 
period under MACEDONIAN Dynasty where all the rulers were of MACEDONIAN 
royal birth from Ptolomej the first to Kleopatra. There you will find 
evidence about the history of MACEDONIA.

Professor Markos has found proof that philosophy comes from MACEDONIA. That 
Aristotel and many others were not athenians but MACEDONIANS.

The old athenians had no alphabet but took it from the fenicians. Their 
theatres and tragic art, even that is not athenian. Their grand theatres 
where 3 000-8 000 persons could be seated, they could not build themselves. 
Only a well developed country as MACEDONIA with its emperor dynasty could 
build these grand "arenas".

From three MACEDONIAN books - MAKEVEJ - we know that MACEDONIA is a biblical 
land but nowhere is "Greece" mentioned or anything about any "greek 
philosophers". MACEDONIAN philosophers worked for the MACEDONIAN royal 
family. They worked in the museum and library of Aleksandar Makedonski the 
Great of MACEDONIA, in MACEDONIAN towns in MACEDONIA and in the provinces. 
There were no athenians inside the MACEDONIAN royal family but only 
MACEDONIANS. Some philosophers did not consider the athenians as humans. The 
athenians had no culture, no philosophy, nothing. They were like wild 
animals, the MACEDONIANS built, the athenians stole or destroyed it

We know, without any doubt, that Aristotel was MACEDONIAN. The athenians 
have tried to convince everybody that Aristotel was athenian, that he was an 
athenian philosopher and that Platon was his teacher. Some believe these 
fairy-tales but most people know the truth. After Aristotel's reports and 
his will, we know that Platon never was his teacher. The philosophy of 
Aristotel and the philosophy of Platon had no similarities, non what so 
ever. Aristotel was extremely logical and won over the philosophy of Platon, 
which he rejected. have Aristotel and Platon ever meet? no, never! Aristotel 
went around in the world and meet other philosophers. He stayed for 12 years 
with Aleksandar Makedonski the Great of MACEDONIA to be his and the 
MACEDONIAN nobility's teacher.

The MACEDONIAN philosophers were threatened by the athenians. Foreign 
philosophers that came to Athens had to pay a certain sum. They who could 
not pay were either thrown out by the athenians, threatened by death or 
punished by death.

Aristotel built a museum. This museum was destroyed by the athenians and the 
destroyed the faces of the statues.

Treofat took over the school of Aristotel, who had over 2 000 pupils. The 
work of Aristotel passed on from his pupils to the whole dominion of 
Aleksandar Makedonski the Great of MACEDONIA. All his pupils gathered in 
Aleksandria with all material.

There were culture centre for MACEDONIAN teaching and philosophy. Museum 
filled with MACEDONIAN busts. Later the Romans took these busts and moved 
them to Rome.

Aristotel was the father of philosophy. He gave philosophy to the whole 
world. Without Aristotel, Aleksandar Makedonski the Great of MACEDONIA could 
never have seized power in the whole world. Many kings in MACEDONIAN towns 
were philosophers. Many philosophers were on diplomatic missions and 
administered the MACEDONIAN provinces.

Demokrit (460 BC - 357 BC) had in Abdera his own school and his followers. 
Demokrit went round and meet philosophers that were hunted by the athenians 
(most philosophers were murdered by the athenians). Demokrit lived for over 
100 year. Only he can be considered as an equal with Aristotel, no one else 
came in their proximity. Perhaps Aristotel also would have lived for 100 
years if the athenians had not killed him.

Platon wanted to burn all documents by Demokrit. Together with the athenians 
he tried to destroy the work of all MACEDONIAN philosophers, their material. 
But they failed.

Protagora, a great MACEDONIAN philosopher, was murdered in Athens.

The documents by Aristotel and his writing about philosophy in ½ million 
lines, he gave to the world so they would keep and protect the documents. In 
his writings you can read about the MACEDONIAN science and philosophy. There 
you can read about the MACEDONIAN kings and about the MACEDONIAN history.

The athenians stole the philosophy of the MACEDONIANS, the science, 
mythology, medicine and so on. They stole the MACEDONIANS writers of dramas. 
They have stolen Aristotel, Demokrit, Hipokrat and Pitagora. Now we also 
know that Evropid was MACEDONIAN. About Evropid, Aristotel has said, that he 
was the most tragic poet. Evropid used different names when he wrote so that 
he would not be murdered by the athenians. The athenians have conquered the 
MACEDONIAN literature. In Athens there is nothing of athenian origin, at 
least of all theatres and literature. Evropid, Eksil and Aristofan, 
MACEDONIANS, foreigners, that worked in Athens, were thrown out by the 
athenians.

The medicine comes originally from MACEDONIA. Hipokrat (460 BC - 370 BC) is 
called the father of medicine. the word recipe (re ept) comes from Hipokrat.

The science and medicine were tied together by Hipokrat. The whole world 
knows about Hipokrat but are silent. The son of Hipokrat, Tesal, was 
Aleksandar Makedonski the Great's personal Doctor. The athenians tried to 
make Hipokrat into the father of athenian medicine!! That the root to 
Europe's science and culture comes from MACEDONIA you know with no doubt, 
the philosophy of Aristotel, the medicine of Hipokrat and so on.

In Visentia the MACEDONIAN writing was renewed. The MACEDONIAN writing came 
to Russia where they still today speak ancient  MACEDONIAN in church.

The medicine, that first had been written in MACEDONIAN, was not changed 
into Latin until around 1200, in Spain.

In 168 BC, the Romans defeated the MACEDONIANS and captured 30 of King 
Persej's nearest men. The Romans stole all the gold and richness from the 
MACEDONIAN Dynasty. From the MACEDONIAN culture and material richness the 
Romans built a city that would exist for ever.

The MACEDONIAN history is in Rome, but a great deal is destroyed. They stole 
the MACEDONIAN science, history, the MACEDONIAN libraries and archives. They 
took them to Emilio Paul in Rome. After his death it was said that the 
MACEDONIAN writings had disappeared!

Professor Markos has found a lot of information about MACEDONIA. With this 
information she will write a book about the true history of MACEDONIA and of 
Aleksandar Makedonski the Great, who was MACEDONIAN not "Greek". All the 
enlightened have known about the true history of MACEDONIA for a long time 
but now there are strong evidence that confirms that.

There are "some" that do not like what Professor Markos writes. "They" mean 
that it can ruin their "friendship" with the Athenians.

I also would like to mention another thing that Professor Markos has 
written.
It should not be called Hellenism but MACEDONISM!

Mr Vasil Iljov, Dipl. engineer and architect, has found some interesting 
facts about MACEDONIA and MACEDONIAN history.

There are concrete evidence that Kiril and Metodij, the MACEDONIAN Solun 
brothers, had knowledge about the ancient MACEDONIAN writing. There are also 
evidence that the MACEDONIAN writing is from 6-7 000 years BC. On ceramic 
stamps from 6 000 years BC, the writing is in MACEDONIAN.

When Aleksandar Makedonski the Great of MACEDONIA only was 16 years old, he 
laid the ground to the town of Aleksandria. Under his lifetime he built 100 
towns, 80 of these wore the name, Aleksandria. Aleksandar Makedonski the 
Great of MACEDONIA built together with MACEDONIAN architects these towns and 
Aleksandria in today's Egypt. The architecture is MACEDONIAN, not egyptian 
or athenian.

The sun is the oldest MACEDONIAN symbol on MACEDONIAN territory.

In the village of Ocicani in the mountains of Crna Loma, also called 
Conceva, the archaeologist Milos Bilbija found old symbols, from 6-7 000 BC, 
of the sun with 16 beams on ceramic stamps.They also found a text in ancient 
MACEDONIAN where it said SL S BO SM (SAL SO BOGA SUM).

The Symbol of the Sun with 16 beams, is the symbol of the MACEDONIAN 
dynasty. You can find this symbol in many countries that ones belonged to 
Great MACEDONIA

This symbol has been found in today's Syria, Turkey, MACEDONIA and many 
other places. it has also been found in Kutles and Barbes belonging to the 
ancient MACEDONIA.

The Symbol of the Sun also exists with eight or twelve beams.

You can find the Symbol of the Sun on ancient MACEDONIAN coins, on fresces 
in the Aegean part of MACEDONIA and also in Italy, which is not surprising 
since the Romans took with them all of the MACEDONIANS richness to Rome when 
MACEDONIA lost the war.

It is absurd of the athenians to say that the Symbol of the Sun is theirs. 
The whole world knows that MACEDONIA occupied nearly the whole world but 
nowhere is Athens or "Greece" mentioned. I believe that the western world 
feel ashamed or does not want to accept the MACEDONIAN history or the truth 
of MACEDONIA.There is no justice in the world, only dictatorship.

When Filip Makedonski the Second's grave was discovered in Kutles they found 
among other things a MACEDONIAN military helmet, made of iron. Several 
helmets of that kind has also been found in the Vardar part of MACEDONIA. 
Five years ago, Mr Slaten Simovski, archaeologist, found such a helmet in 
Marvinci in Gevgelija. This helmet has been presented to the public.

Later Mr Slaten Simovski gave this helmet to the "Government" in MACEDONIA. 
The MACEDONIAN "authorities" sent the helmet to Poland to be restored. It 
would then be sent back to MACEDONIA and the MACEDONIAN people. The helmet 
has still not come back!

The helmet that was found in Kutles and the one that was found in Gevgelija 
are both found on ethnic MACEDONIAN territory. Both the helmets belong to 
the ancient MACEDONIA.

The athenians tries to claim that the helmet in Kutles is athenian although 
it is found on MACEDONIAN territory and not athenian. They want to make 
people believe that the helmet found in Gevgelija is athenian. They continue 
their propaganda and tries to claim that Aleksandar Makedonski the Great of 
MACEDONIA was athenian.

For five years Mr Slaten Simovski dug in Marvinci, Gevgelija. They found 
human bodies, different coins and so on. One of the coins they found shows 
an unknown animal and have a text in MACEDONIAN that says Oko (eye).

After five years the MACEDONIAN "Government" stopped Mr Slaten Simovski and 
the others from digging. Strange!!

In the letter I wrote January 27th 1997 and sent to the Secretary- General 
in the UN, I had received wrong information from MACEDONIA about a 
politician visiting MACEDONIA. According to the information I had received 
it should have been a swedish politician visiting MACEDONIA and who spread 
false propaganda against MACEDONIA. That was not so. After contacts with 
MACEDONIA I  was told that it was Elisabeth Rhen from Finland, who works for 
human Rights in Geneva. I do not want to waste a lot of time on unitelligent 
and corrupt politicians bought by the "albanians", who support the 
"albanians" and help them in a country that is not their own. To say that 
they have the right to university in "albanian" and to lift their "albanian" 
flags in MACEDONIA. i just want to say that Elisabeth Rhen should not light 
fiers in other people's countries or to put gazoline on the fire, there 
already exits a large criminality among the "albanians" in MACEDONIA. 
Elisabeth Rhen should better go back to Finland because it will soon be 
winter and people will starve as they do every winter. if she is so 
intelligent she should go back to her own country and stop the starvation 
because in Finland they have to deliver soup and bread in the streets every 
winter.

The catholic church is saying that it is the church of God and  they do not 
lie or steal. But they do ! They have stolen the entire history of MACEDONIA 
from the MACEDONIAN archives and hidden in in their own archives in Rome. 
They have stolen the archives of Aleksandar Makedonski the Great of 
MACEDONIA. When there is no justice inside the church how can it then exist 
any justice outside the church? I think it is time that the people open the 
archives in the Vatikan and Give out the MACEDONIAN documents to the world 
Media so that they can tell the true MACEDONIAN history. When you read and 
listen to media you know that there are they who know about the MACEDONIAN 
history and they who do not know it. They who know are spreading propaganda. 
they who do not know are spreading even more false propaganda.

There is something I want to ask the politicians in the western world. They 
who forge identity cards, passports, drivers licence or money, they are 
punished with a couple of years in prison and perhaps have to pay a fine. 
These laws exist. This is considered criminal. But for us MACEDONIANS and 
MACEDONIA the worse crime that exists is to forge history, historical 
documents and to steal our theatres, poetry, mythology, science and 
medicine. What is the punishment for those who do this, why are not the 
athenians and Bulgarians, who steal our history, being punished?

You are not allowed to lie in church, you are not allowed to bear weapons in 
church but when the traitor and dictator Kiro Gligorov visited a church he 
was guarded by 5-600 armed agents and polices that stood around him. And he 
calls himself a democratic politician and he is going to build a democracy 
when he himself bear weapons in church. That he dare to bear weapon in 
church is because he rules the church. This proves that MACEDONIA is a 
dictator ship regime.

The MACEDONIANS opened schools in Athens to teach the athenians. They were 
like wild beasts, the MACEDONIANS built, the athenians destroyed. The 
athenians destroyed MACEDONIAN history, they stole the MACEDONIANS ideas and 
they burnt the documents of medicine by Hipokrat. The only thing the 
athenians had was their fellow countryman Platon, who was a pedofil.

MACEDONIA is the only nation in the world  that is not acknowledged as an 
independent state under its own name. We are not acknowledged as MACEDONIA 
but as FYROM. What I know, Slovenia is not called FYROS, Croatia not FYROC 
neither is Bosnia called FYROM. Shall we accept that we are being treated 
differently than all the rest? Absolutely not!! The MACEDONIAN people do not 
accept being acknowledged under a propaganda name or that outside the UN 
headquarters in New York, a non MACEDONIAN flag (the fan) is hanging.

Despite that we, the MACEDONIAN people have protested and proved that we 
exist, despite that we have proved that the sun with 16 beams, the symbol of 
Kutles, is our symbol, the UN and the EU still discriminates the MACEDONIAN 
nation. This is an insult to the MACEDONIAN nation. There is no justice for 
the MACEDONIAN nation.

MACEDONIA had for a long time three occupants. Under the Second World War we 
had also western occupants, Nazi Germany and fascist Italy. They gave the 
"albanians" permission to do what ever they wanted in western MACEDONIA. The 
"albanians" tortured, murdered and slaughtered MACEDONIANS. MACEDONIAN 
children were burnt alive by them. Girls, boys and women were burnt inside 
their own houses. As "thanks" for what they had done to the MACEDONIAN 
people the "albanians" were given a part of western MACEDONIA, Mala Prespa.

Under this decade we have obtained new "occupants". The USA has arrived with 
several hundred soldiers and located their base on one of MACEDONIA'S most 
fertile area, Krivolak. They have poisoned and destroyed the nature. Many 
people have been ill because of the Americans weapons that they have been 
testing there. The other "occupants", the UN and the Northern battalions, 
are letting the "albanians" do what they want in MACEDONIA. The "albanians" 
have raped our girls. One hundred "albanians" maltreated five young 
MACEDONIAN boys to their death. Other boys have been murdered, some have 
been shot down in the streets. The "Albanians" not only maltreats, rape and 
murder, they destroy graves and plunder MACEDONIAN churches and take 
everything that is valuable, for example gold icons. The UN is letting the 
"albanians" and the Turks lift foreign flags in MACEDONIA. Weapons, several 
tons of ammunition, hand granates and so on has been brought in from 
"Albania" Soon they will probably arrive with tanks, cannons and military 
air crafts!! The UN either shut their eyes to what the "albanians" are doing 
or they want the "albanians" to be armed. Have the "albanians" perhaps 
bought them with money or perhaps drugs. Why, the "albanians" are the most 
criminal nationality in Europe with their trade with drugs and weapons.

I wrote in my last letter that we MACEDONIANS wish that the UN and the 
soldiers from the USA will leave MACEDONIA immediately. This has not been 
done. The UN has even prolonged their stay with six months. Therefore I now 
demand that the UN soldiers and the soldiers from the USA will leave the 
country immediately! And the whole MACEDONIAN nation thinks the same since 
they and the MACEDONIAN country have no use for them. We did not let the UN 
enter the country so that they would let the "albanians" grow and be armed, 
but because the should guard the border.

Nor do we want the swedish soldiers in MACEDONIA.
Sweden is one of the largest weapon exporter in the world. They are selling 
weapons to people at war! Properly Sweden, as a neutral country, should not 
interfere with weapons, but there are large profits to be made. With their 
weapons, Sweden also takes part in the war. With their weapons people are 
killed, little children are being murdered. People are crippled because of 
Sweden. If you would check how much weapons Sweden is selling to Athens you 
would probably get numbers as that 90% of Athens weapon imports comes 
directly from Sweden!! No wonder that Sweden will keep in with the 
athenians. It would also be interesting to know how much weapons Sweden is 
selling to the "albanians". In another way Sweden is also showing what a 
"democratic" country it is . To these countries, who are at war or they who 
are in need of humanitarian aid,  help is sent. The food that is sent to 
these countries is such food that has expired and can not be sold in Sweden. 
It is not only Sweden that does this but most countries that sends 
humanitarian aid. People who are hungry, who starves, do not look at the 
date.

I hope this time that the Secretary-General Kofi Annan will answer my 
letter. Last time I wrote I did not receive a reply.

MACEDONIA is a country without a king, without a president, no Government, 
no Parliament. We have no directors, no police neither anyaArmy. But 
MACEDONIA has traitors, spies, anti MACEDONIANS, Mafia, criminals and 
bandits, who rules the country. They are selling our country, our MACEDONIAN 
identity and our MACEDONIAN symbols. The leader is the dictator and traitor 
Kiro Gligorov. After him you have they who sits in the "Government" and 
"Parliament", the police, army and the directors. All of them are traitors, 
spies, anti MACEDONIANS, Mafia, criminals and bandits. The people have to 
work for nothing. They work for free while the directors are getting richer 
and richer. All they that I have mentioned takes the bread from the mouth of 
the MACEDONIAN people. They are vampires that sucks the blood of the 
MACEDONIAN people.


The USA has always been against communism, the whole world knows that. The 
Americans fought in Vietnam against communism but today they are helping the 
communists in MACEDONIA. They are best friends!
Several times, under three years time there have been a change of 
"ministers" in MACEDONIA. When the first group of "ministers" have stolen 
money from the MACEDONIAN people they have been exchanged. These "ministers" 
have also stolen money and they have in their turn been exchanged. This has 
been going on for three years.

The traitors have sold western MACEDONIA to the "albanians". They believe, 
as the "albanians", that western MACEDONIA will belong to "Albania":

The "Minister of Defence" has given order to burn and destroy the MACEDONIAN 
flag, the the sun with sixteen beams, the symbol of Kutles. The "Minister of 
defence" can forget what he has ordered because this will not happen. In 
that case the Ministry of Defence will instead be burnt down and destroyed 
and the "new flag" (the fan), that hangs by the borders and at the Mafia 
headquarter, the Parliament, will be burnt and destroyed. But never the sun 
with sixteen beams, the symbol of Kutles, the true MACEDONIAN, historical 
symbol.

The dictator and traitor Kiro Gligorov has given order to the MACEDONIAN 
soldiers at the border, not to shoot against the criminal "albanians" and 
the "albanian" Mafia that enters the country illegal. There is no country in 
the world that would not have given orders to stop them. The MACEDONIAN 
border is entirely open to the "albanian" Mafia. Hundreds of "albanians" 
enters the country every day with their Mafia organizations. Our soldiers 
are not allowed to shoot against them when they sneaks into the country by 
night. They are not even allowed to yell halt but must remain quiet. But the 
"albanian" bandits, the Mafia, shoots against our soldiers and hurt them or 
kill them. Therefore we patriots have to do something about this, or soon 
MACEDONIA will not exist, but only a Great "Albanian", which surely will 
please the athenians.

After the Second World War and up to the death of dictator Tito, the traitor 
and dictator Kiro Gligorov was Tito's agent. He arrested a very large number 
of MACEDONIAN men, patriots that wanted a free MACEDONIA. They were put in 
prison on an island, Goli Otok. On that island many MACEDONIANS were 
tortured and murdered. They who were responsible for this was Kiro Gligorov, 
Lazo Kolesevski, Crsta Crvenkovski and others. The dictator Kiro Gligorov 
has appointed who will be his successor the day he retire. It will be the 
"Prime Minister" Boro Crvenkovski. Gligorov is training him so he can 
destroy the country just as Gligorov does.

I ask myself, whose agent the dictator and traitor Kiro Gligorov is today. 
Is he Belgrade's, Athens', Sofija's or Tirana's agent, or perhaps he is 
Washington's agent? If it is not one of them it must be all of them.

The dictator and traitor Kiro Gligorov's plan is to divide the Vardar part 
of MACEDONIA into four parts.

Still we have no back on our passports and the stamps are still yugoslavian.

I and every other MACEDONIAN patriot gives the athenians, who have open 
stores, restaurants and so on in MACEDONIA, an ultimatum:
Close these immediately! We do not want these occupants in our country. If 
you will not do this, we patriots will personally throw you out.
The MACEDONIAN patriots will receive power in MACEDONIA. When this happens, 
the bandits, the Mafia who I have have mentioned in my letters will be 
arrested and sent to prison. Then it is up to the MACEDONIAN people to 
decide, weather they will be sent to life in prison or they will receive 
death penalty, since it is the people in the country that decides, not the 
traitor and and traitor Kiro Gligorov. When the MACEDONIAN patriots have 
taken care of the Mafia we will liberate all MACEDONIAN territory that is 
occupied. Also the area in Turkey, that was occupied during the Ottoman 
Empire.

If there is going to be any political solution of the MACEDONIAN question in 
a peaceful way, the UN and the EU must sit down and discuss the question in 
a democratic way. Today the MACEDONIAN people feels violated and terrorised 
and even discriminated. The UN promised  that the name FYROM only were a 
temporary solution. Now it has been several years and this incorrect, false 
name is still used instead of our real name, MACEDONIA. In spite of all the 
evidence that has been presented, in spite of the world knowing that we 
MACEDONIANS are right, we are still treated like this. We can not wait for 
ever for the decision from the UN or the EU about our own name and about our 
own symbol. In the future we will not accept any documents from the UN, the 
EU, the Helsinki committee or any other organization where it is written 
FYROM. The name FYROM shall   immediately be removed and from the UN head 
quarter the "fan" shall be removed and the right flag the symbol of Kutles, 
the star with sixteen beams will be hoisted. If there exists any democracy 
in the world, the UN and the EU would discuss how to solve the question 
about the occupied territories. The occupied territories must of course be 
returned to MACEDONIA and the border between Serbia and MACEDONIA must be 
moved up wards at least 100 km.

I love my country MACEDONIA and my people very much. I would give my life 
for my country and  my people. But I detest the system and the regime that 
we have today in our country. Traitors, spies and anti MACEDONIANS that 
wants to sell their country and their identity. Unfortunately I must 
criticise my own MACEDONIAN people which makes me sad and disappointed. 
There are groups of traitors, spies and anti MACEDONIANS, they call 
themselves MACEDONIANS but they do not love their country or their identity. 
In Belgium, Germany and other countries in Europe, in Australia, Canada and 
the USA, the MACEDONIANS stand together. As an example I want to mention the 
MACEDONIANS in Australia who I am very proud of. They are fighting so that  
MACEDONIA will be an independent country. They are fighting for MACEDONIA to 
be called by its own historical name MACEDONIA and nothing else. They are 
fighting for MACEDONIA and the MACEDONIAN people so they shall keep their   
flag, their symbol

In Australia a MACEDONIAN couple was married. A very big cake was baked, 
resembling whole geographical MACEDONIA. It was a very beautiful cake. The 
problem was, who was going to divide the cake, who was going to put a knife 
in the cake and take a slice. No one wanted and everyone started to cry. 
They said, we can not divide MACEDONIA, this is MACEDONIA beside us. The 
cake was never divided.

In for example Belgium and Germany when it is a MACEDONIAN holiday, 
Christmas day, Easter day, new year, the MACEDONIAN national day, the 
MACEDONIANS are gathered in their unions. They eat good MACEDONIAN food, 
they sing MACEDONIAN patriotic songs and dances MACEDONIAN dances. They 
celebrate until the morning. In many other countries in Europe there live 
MACEDONIANS that love their country MACEDONIA and their MACEDONIAN identity 
and they are proud of it.

But I am very disappointed in the MACEDONIANS here in Sweden. There are 
nearly 14 000 MACEDONIANS living in Sweden. I am counting that of these, 
perhaps there are 2% that love their country and are proud over their 
identity. The rest of them are grkomani, srbomani, bugarofili and albanesi.

There are seventeen unions here in Sweden. All of them are using the non 
MACEDONIAN flag "the fan". Those MACEDONIANS who have hanged "the fan" in 
these unions and they who accept such a flag are ready to change their 
identity and to call their own country, Skopje, as the athenians want. I do 
not understand how they can call themselves MACEDONIANS and that their 
unions carries the names of heroes from VMRO when they can hang "the fan" 
beside the photographs of these heroes.

The union Goce Delcev has taken its name after the man that built the VMRO 
organization 1893. Goce DElcev the Great. This man would never accept such a 
flag hanging beside his photograph.

Even the two churches here in Sweden, Kiril and Metodij in Gothenburg and 
Sveti Naum Ohridski in Malmoe have this fan.

Some unions have been forced to accept this non MACEDONIAN "flag" and to pay 
600 SEK to the spy, the agent and "ambassador" Tihomir Ilijevski.

It would not surprise me if the MACEDONIANS that live in the world and in 
MACEDONIAN who uses the non MACEDONIAN flag, "the fan", changes the name and 
their identity. It is a very small group in the world that uses "the fan" 
but they can still destroy enough.

In Helsingborg there is a MACEDONIAN union that is called 11 Oktomvri. They 
are true grkomani and communists. I myself have seen that they still have 
Tito's photography hanging on the wall. Straight opposite this union is an 
athenian union that call itself Alexander the Great! if those MACEDONIAN in 
Helsingborg had been patriots and loved their country and their King 
Aleksandar Makedonski the Great of MACEDONIA they would have protested 
against this ghastly venture. They should have protested to the council in 
Helsingborg or to the swedish Government against the athenians who uses our 
king's name on their union. This they did not do!

In Helsingborg the MACEDONIAN are visiting the athenian union and the 
athenians are visiting the MACEDONIAN union!!

In Halmstad there is another union that is called MAKEDONIJA 91. I think 
this is a big mistake to call themselves this. MACEDONIA is a very old 
country of ancient lineage and traditions. We are not from 1991!!

I talked with a person  in the board regarding that the union in halmstad is 
not interested in MACEDONIA or the MACEDONIAN people, they are albanesi. I 
learnt to know from him that this union had invited a muslim group to play 
now i September. there are extraordinary many good MACEDONIAN singers and 
dance groups in MACEDONIA who they could invite, but instead the invite a 
muslim group to play and amuse the MACEDONIANS. This person in the board 
said that he thought that this group, Feres Mustafo's group, was the best 
group in whole MACEDONIA!! After that I did not want to talk to him. I only 
said that if they could invite Feres Mustafo's group they might as well 
invite the muslim singer, Esmera Jepera Too.

In Gothenburg most MACEDONIANS visits serbian unions, when it is dance and 
music, instead of going to the MACEDONIAN unions. I have asked the 
MACEDONIANS in Gothenburg why they do this. They answer that they do not 
know. I believe that it is because of the poor organization. No MACEDONIAN 
singers comes to play, no dance groups comes there. But when you visit the 
serbian unions there are joy and laughter. Serbian singers and groups are 
invited and there is always song and dance.

I fight hard for my people in MACEDONIA, in the occupied territories and in 
the rest of the world concerning the MACEDONIAN question.

I sent a letter to the swedish Government about that our MACEDONIAN children 
did not have MACEDONIAN in school. After my letter the MACEDONIAN language 
was acknowledged and the MACEDONIAN children can read MACEDONIAN in school. 
I thank the Government for this but, There must be at least five MACEDONIAN 
children in the school to receive teaching in MACEDONIAN.

In Sweden there is a union called Makedonski Sojuz vo Svedska ( the 
Macedonian National Union in Sweden). Some of those who work there are good, 
intelligent people, but many are communists. They hate their country and 
their language. They were doubtful to arranging teaching in the MACEDONIAN 
language for the MACEDONIAN children so that they could learn their mother 
tongue. From them the Minister of Culture did not receive any letter. When 
the communists received, by fax, a copy of my letter I had sent to the 
Government, they immediately produced books from MACEDONIA to the children. 
This was as late as February 1997

I do not understand why they did not do this work themselves to get the 
MACEDONIAN language acknowledged or did they have to ask the dictator Kiro 
Gligorov first.

No one of the former presidents for Sojuz have been interested, and the man 
who is president now, Kire Klenkovski, would not either been interested if I 
had not reacted. That it is of no interest to him is mainly because his 
children can not speak MACEDONIAN.

Here in Sweden, in the town of Malmoe, they have a festival every summer. 
Many MACEDONIANS live in this town. Last year, in 1996, I went to Malmoe. 
Here all the nationalities that lives in Sweden are represented. They are 
standing in their small, nice "shops" where they prepare their national 
dishes which they then sell. It smells delicious from the different "shops" 
and it is a great atmosphere.

When I came to Malmoe I looked, of course, after the MACEDONIAN "shop". I 
longed for good food from the MACEDONIAN cuisine. The MACEDONIAN cuisine who 
had won many distinguished prices. I looked, but nowhere could I find any 
MACEDONIAN "shop". On the other hand I found MACEDONIAN food. There were 
innumerable athenian "shops" with athenian flags flying, where they served 
food from different countries and had the insolence to call it "Greek" 
(athenian) dishes.

In the end I found a shed with the non MACEDONIAN flag (the fan) flying. Two 
young boys stood in the shed and sold cakes, three sorts of cold cakes. I 
went up to the "MACEDONIAN cuisine". I asked what cuisine they represented. 
The MACEDONIAN they answered. I asked them who had sent them. The answered, 
the union KSD MACEDONIJA. I asked the boys if they were not ashamed standing 
there, representing the MACEDONIAN cuisine in that way when the MACEDONIAN 
cuisine is so rich that a dead lion would wake up because of the wonderful 
smell, and here you are, standing with three cold cakes and a non MACEDONIAN 
flag. I asked them what flag it was. They said it was MACEDONIAN but they 
did not love this flag. They said: Our flag is the sun with sixteen beams 
but we must use this because the union has said so.

Their mothers had baked the cakes at home. I do not understand how 
MACEDONIAN parents and the MACEDONIAN union can put these boys in a shed to 
sell cold cakes made at home. People do not want to buy such food. They want 
to have warm and good food made at place. The boys did not sell a single 
cake.

I was very disappointed in my MACEDONIAN people and had hoped that this 
would not happen again this year. To stand there, embarrassing the 
MACEDONIAN people and MACEDONIA when we have such a rich cuisine and such 
wonderful food. This year I did not go up to the "MACEDONIAN cuisine" but 
stood watching from a distance. There was nothing on the counter so what 
they were selling no man could guess. You could not see any grill or the 
like, no sent came from the "MACEDONIAN cuisine". This is awful, the 
MACEDONIANS embarrasses its people in front of the whole world.

We have here in Sweden, on Swedish Radio, a MACEDONIAN program, 20 min a 
week. There is a journalist who calls herself "MACEDONIAN". She is under the 
dictator and traitor Kiro Gligorov's regime and control and under the 
swedish radio's control. During the program she talks about the "albanians" 
and if she talks about MACEDONIA it is only against her own MACEDONIAN 
people and for the dictatorship regime and the "albanians". She is against 
her MACEDONIAN people and her country MACEDONIA.   This woman's name is 
Liiljana Ilijevska. This woman is against my protest letters since I protest 
against the western World and the dictatorship in MACEDONIA and for justice 
for the MACEDONIANS.

In June, Boris Petrovski and his swedish colleague, Ann-Marie Boström, also 
from the Swedish Radio, went to Athens.After the information I have 
received, their tape recorder was confiscated by the athenian police since 
it was, according to the athenians, a weapon against Athens. I have not 
heard any more. What I wonder is why, when they came back to Sweden, nothing 
has been mentioned about this event.Nothing has been said on the TV or the 
Radio and the newspapers have not written anything. I hope that the 
MACEDONIAN paper, Makedonski Vesnik, which is printed once a month in 
Gothenburg, will write about this event.

I think that these 20 min that are transmitted in MACEDONIAN are not worth 
anything for the MACEDONIAN people. In these 20 min they could tell us a lot 
about MACEDONIA and not just "babble" all the time about their "president" 
Kiro Gligorov and the "albanians". It is only a propaganda program. I 
stopped listen to this program a year ago but if something of value would 
have been mentioned on the program I would have got to know it. I think that 
the MACEDONIAN program either should be shut down or that they employ new 
journalists who really work for their people and their country and not 
against as certain journalists.

The MACEDONIAN people and the country of MACEDONIA have been violated and 
suffered because of the false propaganda about MACEDONIA that has been 
spread by western journalists, media, false writers and false historians. In 
Sweden, where I live, I have not read or heard anything good about 
MACEDONIA. Everything that is written are lies and violations against the 
MACEDONIAN people and the country of MACEDONIA. why are we MACEDONIANS being 
treated like this? Are all journalists blind or deaf? Do Athens have them in 
their leash or are they forbidden by their Governments to write the truth? I 
want that UN, EU, the Helsinki Committee and Amnesty International gather 
all Human Rights organizations to protest against the false historians and 
writers that violates and make propaganda against the MACEDONIAN people. 
That all false history books shall be removed from every library, schools 
and so on. All these books that have tricked the people in the whole world. 
That they see to that the archives are opened in the Vatikan, Aleksandria, 
Istanbul and that also the western archives are opened so that the true 
history about MACEDONIA can be shown to the world. Or else, when VMRO-MNM 
will receive power, all journalists, writers and historians who enters 
MACEDONIA will be imprisoned for life for false propaganda. I hope of course 
that it never have to go that far but that the western world will correct 
this terrible crime that has been brought down upon the MACEDONIANS.

If the freedom of Press exist and if there is any democracy in the world, 
the Media will write the true history about MACEDONIA, the history that some 
people have tried to hide so that the rest of the world shall not know 
anything.

Until 1996 the non MACEDONIAN name FYROM was used in the newspapers and TV 
here in Sweden. After I started to protest about this and told the true 
history about MACEDONIA, they stopped using the name FYROM and now the use 
the correct name instead, MACEDONIA. The same thing with Telia and Tele 2 
(swedish telephone companies), when I complained the changed the incorrect 
name FYROM to only MACEDONIA. Sometimes it pays to complain and hold one's 
own, but we are far from goal.

In May this year I contacted Systembolaget (swedish, public company that 
sells alcohol) in Stockholm because I was tired with their incorrect name 
for MACEDONIA in their price list and advertisement. In the price lists it 
says MACEDONIA (FYROM). I first talked with Göran Winstrand, responsible 
editor for the price catalogues. We discussed removing FYROM from the 
catalogues and that it only should say MACEDONIA. He was very positive to my 
proposal but he said also that he had to follow the demands from the Foreign 
Office.

When I talked with Peter Hedling at the Foreign Office he told me that they 
do not decide what name Systembolaget are using in their price lists. It is 
up to Systembolaget, they decide for themselves. I later received a letter 
from him where it stood:
As a follow up to your question by telephone the other day I wish in this 
way to confirm that the Foreign Office do not have the competence to decide 
what name Systembolaget are using in their pamphlets to indicate the country 
that is elected in United nations as the Former Yugoslavian Republic of 
MACEDONIA. We can on the other hand of course leave a suggestion if they ask 
such a question. It is at the same time obvious that the question of the 
name still have not reached a final solution that is accepted by all 
involved parts.

After I had talked with Peter Hedling at the Foreign Office I phoned back to 
Göran Winstrand at the Systembolaget. He said that he had nothing more to do 
with this but I should contact the Director of Information, Björn Ridberg. 
This I did.This man was very disagreeable, he said that Sweden was a very 
good friend with the "greeks" and that Sweden was not going to loose their 
friendship with them just because of MACEDONIA. He also said: We are not 
going to change the name but we follow the demands from the Foreign Office.

Allthough I told him that I had talked with the Foreign Office that it was 
not they who decided but it was up to everyone, he stilll did not want to 
change the name since they followed the demands from the Foreign Office!! He 
also said that if thay decided anything, either to remove the name or not, 
he would contact me. I have still not heard anything.

In the beginning of May i had a phone call from an athenian that spoke 
swedish. He offered me a large sum of money if I would start to work for the 
athenians instead of "Skopje". I asked him if he ment MACEDONIA. When he 
told me that I could have what ere sum I wanted, I told him he had come to 
the wrong person. I am the biggest patriot for my MACEDONIAN people and my 
historical country.

There is no person in the world that can buy me. There is no money in the 
world that I would sell my country and my people. He continued to try to 
persuade me and said that many "Skopje people" that before had been big 
patriots now worked for the "greeks" (the athenians) and was paid 
generously. Then he told me that many business men from MACEDONIA travels to 
"Greece". I interrupted him, do you mean the Aegean part of MACEDONIA? No, 
"Greece". The business men buys a lot of wares from the athenian business 
men. When they come to the "border" between the Aegean part of MACEDONIA and 
the Vardar part of MACEDONIA (the Republic of MACEDONIA) they show the 
invoice on how much they have paid. They will then get back 30-50 % of the 
money. Att! This is not taxes. It must of course be printed Skopje  on the 
wares and not MACEDONIA and if they are being asked they have to answer that 
the MACEDONIAN flag is not theirs, that MACEDONIA do not exist and has never 
existed!I told him that Athens must be a very rich country, it must have a 
lot of money to be able to pay the MACEDONIAN traitors. He answered: Of 
course, "Greece" is a rich country. We have even paid large sums to Poland, 
Hungary and Rumania so they will say that in their countries there are no 
MACEDONIANS but they are "Greeks". I asked him how much money they have paid 
to these countries. he answered: We have paid 120 million dollar to each 
Government. I said to him that the athenians tries to win by bribing people 
and politicians but you do not know anything about the MACEDONIAN history. 
You forge the history in the night, when we write about the true MACEDONIAN 
history you copy it and forge it.

When MACEDONIA take back its occupied territory, the Aegean part of 
MACEDONIA, we will call the people that you call "greeks" in Poland, Hungary 
and Rumania. Then we will see what country the will come to MACEDONIA or 
Athens. He said to me that I was an idiot and did not want to be rich 
quickly. I told him that it was lucky for him that he was not here 
personally and said this.

After a month I received this letter from the atheians. This letter comes 
from a union that has the insolence to call itself THE MACEDONIAN UNION 
ARISTOTELES.

Stockholm, July 10 1997

Dear Ljupco,

I thank you for your parcels. I understand your hesitation about the 
macedonians origin and belonging and therefore I will try to help you by 
sending some publications that deals with the culture and civilisation of 
Macedonia. Finally I hope that an acceptable solution will be found about 
the name question so that the people in the area will live in peace with 
each other.

Yours faithfully
C Karipidis
Chairman

July 29th at 23.20 I was sitting in my living room and watched TV when i 
suddenly heard the front door open. I went out in the hall and saw a 
complete stranger standing there. He was about 50 years old. I spoke to him 
in swedish, asked who he was and what he was doing in a private apartment. 
He answered me in very bad English with n athenian accent, I did not 
understand what he said. I asked him in swedish who had sent him. When I 
went towards him he waved his keys and I could see the key badge where it 
stood 107. He backed out of the apartment and disappeared. I went up to the 
window to see where he went. Several minutes passed before he came out from 
the staircase. he did not proceed to the parking lot but disappeared around 
the house. when it all happened I was not afraid but afterwards came the 
reaction. Who was he, who had sent him, would he come back and perhaps have 
with him more men? I thought, thank Good that the family are on holiday. 
What would have happened if they had been alone when this man got inside the 
apartment. They would have been terrified and who knows what this man would 
have done. I sat up all night in front of the window to see that no one 
tried to get inside the staircase. This event has made me afraid and my 
family are scared to death. If the door bell rings I open the door, when the 
mail comes I pick it up. You can never know who rings on the door or if 
there is a bomb among the mail. I have reported this to the police. I have 
sent copies of the report, by fax to the UN in Geneva, the EU parliament, 
the Helsinki committee in Copenhagen, Amnesty International in Stockholm, 
Sweden's Foreign Minister and to the Media in Sweden. The Media has not said 
anything or written anything about this event. If there is any democracy in 
the western world then this is a very big crime! But if it had been a 
MACEDONIAN instead who had got inside some athenian's apartment in the 
middle of the night or in some albanian's it would have been protests and 
demonstrations in the whole world against the MACEDONIAN people. The swedish 
propaganda Media would have written and reported for at least one week and 
they would have made a hen out of a feather, but if something happens to a 
MACEDONIAN everyone is quiet!

I wish from the UN, the EU, the Helsinki Committee and Amnesty International 
that they will not sit quiet but demand that the athenian Government and the 
athenian Embassy in Stockholm will hand over this man or this organization 
so that they can be judged in a trial. The athenian Government who is behind 
everything should also be judged. The athenians shall not just be able to 
phone and bribe people and get inside people's home and scare them.

You could take the silence of the Media as an acceptance of the athenians 
treatment of the MACEDONIANS but i hope that the Media in the world will 
report and write about this.

I ask all MACEDONIAN patriots to fight for our country MACEDONIA. That we 
MACEDONIAN brothers and sisters work together. We can not longer wait for 
the western world to help us. No my MACEDONIAN brothers and sisters, the 
western world is not helping us, the UN is not helping us. They destroy our 
country, they want to divide the Vardar part of MACEDONIA into four parts 
too and they want to change our identity.

Under the Second World War MACEDONIANS were raped, slaughtered and murdered 
by the "albanians". People were burnt, alive, inside their houses. The 
MACEDONIANS were robbed. We see the same picture today. it is happening 
again. We will not let the "albanians" do this to us here in MACEDONIA.

Also our brothers and sisters in Mala Prespa, occupied by the "albanians", 
need our help. The 700 000 MACEDONIANS (new information) are harassed by the 
"albanian" Mafia, bandits and criminals. The "albanians" force their way 
into their home and steal their last money that they need for food. The 
MACEDONIANS are threatened by death. Little girls are kidnapped to be sold.

We patriots must help our brothers and sisters in all the occupied 
territories, Therefore I ask all MACEDONIAN brothers and sisters to help 
these people that lives under threat, rape, plunder and murder in all 
historical MACEDONIA, so that they can sleep in peace. Only we patriots can 
do something about this. We have to get rid of the bandits, the Mafia and 
the criminals in MACEDONIA. The "albanians" can lift their flags in their 
own country, not in MACEDONIA. When we patriots will receive power all 
criminals that smuggles drugs in our country MACEDONIA will be sentenced to 
death. In this totally corrupt country, corruption will be punished hard. 
All the money, saved in the bank, that has been stolen from the MACEDONIAN 
people under the dictator and traitor Kiro Gligorov and his Mafia 
Governments ruling, will be found.

Kiro Gligorov is saying that the best business man/woman is Sonja 
Nikolovska, bank Director. The same person that cheated the poor people who 
had saved a small sum of their money under the pyramid games in Bitola. Now 
there is no money! But it is first of all the dictator and traitor Kiro 
Gligorov who has cheated the MACEDONIANS. All the people in Bitola voted for 
the traitor and dictator Kiro Gligorov but they were taken in.

MACEDONIAN brothers and sisters, you must wake up and see what is happening 
in our country MACEDONIA. Now it is enough with the dictator and traitor 
Kiro Gligorov's false politics. He acts that he is a MACEDONIAN patriot. He 
promise better times for MACEDONIA when it is time for election. As for 
example the railway that was going to be built to Bulgaria. He promised that 
after the election they would start building immediately, but that was many 
elections ago. The railway is still not built. 85 million dollar 
"disappeared". Now they want to borrow 250 million dollar more to build the 
railway and some other buildings.

If Kiro Gligorov believes that he will stand as a good person in history he 
can forget that thought. He and his Mafia organization are traitors, spies, 
anti MACEDONIANS and murderers to the MACEDONIAN people, to the MACEDONIAN 
identity, the MACEDONIAN symbol, the sun with sixteen beams, the symbol of 
kutles and to the country of MACEDONIA.

As President of VMRO-MNM, MAKEDONIJA NA MAKEDONCITE, I request that the EU 
commission takes its responsibility. The athenians are spreading their 
propaganda. They are using MACEDONIAN name on their unions and companies, 
they are using the name of our philosophers (for example Aristotel), our 
kings and our symbols (for example the sun with sixteen beams, the symbol of 
Kutles). Most of them are using the name of our King, Aleksandar Makedonski 
the Great of MACEDONIA. The athenians must be punished, they have to pay for 
this. They have no right to use MACEDONIAN symbols and MACEDONIAN names. 
They can use their own athenian names, if they have any.

The party VMRO-MNM and all MACEDONIAN patriots in the world do not accept 
this propaganda. We will not be silent anymore. If nothing is done we will 
ourselves take the responsibility!

The first VMRO party was formed in 1893 by Goce Delcev the Great, his spirit 
is still alive, his patriots will never forget him. His patriots, sons and 
daughters of Filip Makedonski the Second of MACEDONIA and Aleksandar 
Makedonski the Great of MACEDONIA, will fight hard to liberate their 
geographical, historical country, occupied by the athenians - of arab 
origin, the Bulgarians - gypsies from Asia and the "albanians" - siptari, 
asiatic from Caucasus.

As I have said before, many VMRO patriots were tortured and murdered by 
Tito's regime and by MACEDONIAN traitors and spies, anti MACEDONIANS. But 
they did not succeed in killing them all. Today there are millions of 
patriots and this time the VMRO patriots will succeed.

We will not make our VMRO heroes disappointed, they who fought against the 
Turks to liberate their geographic, historical country and their people. I 
will again mention these heroes:

Goce Delcev the Great
Dame Gruev
Gjorce Petrov
Jane Sandanski
Nikola Karev
Pitu Guli
And many more...
We are carrying these heroes with us in our hearts. We will fight for what 
they died for and for the MACEDONIAN people and the country of MACEDONIA. 
And we will raise our MACEDONIAN symbol in the air, the sun with sixteen 
beams, the symbol of Kutles.

If the world will not help us MACEDONIANS, we will help ourselves.

When whole geographic, historical MACEDONIA is liberated we will make the 
Bulgarians and the athenians slave for as many years that we have been 
occupied by them, and their slaves. The Turks that are lifting their turkish 
flags in our country will be sent back to turkey. The "albanians", this 
infected, dirty, disgusting people will be kicked out of MACEDONIA to the 
reservation "Albania". A wall, twice as high as the Chines Wall will be 
built between us and them. We do not want to catch their diseases. Even the 
experts can not find what kind of disease the "albanians" have in their 
brain. We will clean out the garbage.

Now MACEDONIA has to be acknowledged under its own name, under its own 
historical name, MACEDONIA, without any "extra names". Our old MACEDONIAN 
symbol, the sun with sixteen beams, the symbol of Kutles, that we have had 
for thousands of years must be acknowledged and the non MACEDONIAN flag, the 
fan, must be removed. Now the Englishman Cyrus Vance shall judge our right 
to our own name. I want to say to him, before he judges or rebaptise us, he 
should open the archives in England and read about the MACEDONIAN history. 
He must think before he rebaptise a nation. How would he fell if we 
MACEDONIANS changed the name England to London.

My proposal is that a conference, together with the UN and the EU, will be 
held in MACEDONIA. There we will discuss the occupied territories. I and 
surely all MACEDONIANS want that leaders from the whole world will come to 
MACEDONIA, to discuss the MACEDONIAN history with open doors to the Media, 
so that people in the whole world can read in the newspapers or see on the 
TV how the MACEDONIAN nation has suffered. Then these people can form an 
opinion about the situation of the MACEDONIANS and of the occupants. I think 
You should accept this proposal.

At this conference the "President" Kiro Gligorov, "the Government" and the 
"Parliament", the communists and the traitors will not be let in. Here will 
only good MACEDONIANS, that know the true history, sit.

If You do not accept this proposal there will come a day when You will beg 
the MACEDONIAN people to sit down at the negotiation table, but then it will 
be to late.

I did not receive any reply to my last letter to the UN Secretary-General. 
If there exists any democracy in the world I would have got a reply. Now I 
await a reply as soon as possible to this letter, that You have accepted my 
proposal and that the name of our country will be only MACEDONIA and that 
the flag will be returned.

President of VMRO-MNM


Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet



VMRO-MNM (Macedonia for the Macedonians)!

Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet
Koppargården 13 C
261 43 LANDSKRONA
SWEDEN

Tel/fax: +46 136 24

November 7, 1997

To the Holiness, the Bishop of Rome, Johannes Paulus II

I am writing to your Holiness concerning Macedonia and the Macedonian 
people's suffering.

Your Holiness know yourself how many years the Macedonian people have 
suffered. They have been tortured, murdered, slaughtered. Still today this 
happens to the Macedonian people. Your Holiness know yourself how many 
Macedonians there are in the world that have been forced to leave their 
homes so that they will not be killed. Masses of people have been thrown out 
of their country.

Your Holiness know that Macedonia was shattered into 3 parts, August 10th 
1913. According to the Bucharest treaty the occupied territories shall be 
returned in 1998, but no one has mentioned this or had a discussion about 
this.

The Macedonian nation demands that the world accept us as a nationality, a 
nationality that are several thousand years old. We also demand that the 
Athenians pay damages for the sufferings they have caused the Macedonian 
nation and for the destruction of the Macedonian statues and for forging the 
history.

We ourselves have found many evidence about the Macedonian history and about 
the Macedonian nation.
We have existed in thousands of years, we have our language, our own 
alphabet and our own symbols, but still the Western World is against us. 
They support Athens and Bulgaria, although this two countries have no 
evidence, only false propaganda.

The Vatican has in its archives, documents from the Macedonian Royal Dynasty 
and from the library of Aleksandar Makedonski the Great. In the Vatican, in 
Turkey and Egypt the whole history of Macedonia are gathered. There you can 
also find the Macedonian symbols.

That is why I ask your Holiness to be permitted to visit you as soon as your 
Holiness have the opportunity, to discuss the important issue concerning the 
history of Macedonia.

I will also ask the Turkish Government and the Egyptian Government to 
receive me for a discussion about the history of Macedonia.

In schools all around the world, the children are being taught the false 
history about Macedonia. One day, as soon as possible, this false history 
against the Macedonian nation must have an end.

I thank your Holiness for your patience in reading my letter.

I wish your Holiness a long life and above all a good health.

Yours faithfully,

Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet
President of VMRO-MNM



SECRETARIAT OF STATE

FIRST SECTION - GENERAL AFFAIRS

From the Vatican, 9 January 1998

Mr Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet
Koppargården 13 C
S-261 43 Landskrona

Dear Mr Mircevski-Trepet,

His Holiness Pope John Paull II has received your letter and enclosures and 
has asked me to send you this acknowledgment. He appreciates the concerns 
which prompted you to write to him.

His Holiness will remember you in his prayers.

Yours sincerely,

Monsignor J.M. Harvey
Assessor



VMRO-MNM (Macedonia for the Macedonians)!

Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet
Koppargården 13 C
261 43  LANDSKRONA
SWEDEN

Tel/fax: +46 418 13624

February 25th 1998

To His Holiness, Pope John Paul II

I am very grateful for the letter I received from Monsignor J.M. Harvey 
which the Monsignor wrote at Your Holiness request. I am very moved that 
Your Holiness will remember me in Your prayers. I thank Your Holiness for 
this honour.

I would like to mention a few things more about the Macedonian Question.

In a near future, if nothing is done about it, Macedonia will totally cease 
to exist. The Macedonian nation will cease to exist.

The Macedonian traitors, spies, corrupt Macedonians, the Western World's 
bureaucrats and the UN have taken everything from us and given it to our 
neighbouring countries, especially Athens.
With their enormous western propaganda they have destroyed everything for 
the Macedonian nation.
The Macedonians are the victims of the neighbouring countries and the 
western bureaucrats plundering.

It is large organized groups that are helping the Athenians and the other 
neighbouring countries to steal the Macedonian history and our traditions.
These groups are the Macedonian traitor organization MPO-SDSM, the 
politicians in the Western World, writers, historians, archaeologists and 
the media. They are all terror groups.
The rich Western World produces and sells large quantities of weapons. It is 
they who start the wars in the world together with the above mentioned 
groups who provokes war.

Everything that has been stolen from the Macedonians must be returned.

We cannot accept that the Athenian flag is hauled at the Olympic Games. The 
Macedonian flag, the sun with 16 beams, the symbol of Kutles is the flag 
that should be hauled since the Olympic Games originally is from Macedonia.

I ask Your Holiness, as I did in my previous letter, to receive med. I 
believe that with my visit we will be able to solve much for the future of 
Macedonia and for the future of the Balkans.

I will send some more copies of my material about my struggle.

I am going to write a book about my struggle for the Macedonian nation and 
for Macedonia. The book will be named, Makedonija na Makedoncite - Macedonia 
for the Macedonians.

I thank Your Holiness for Your patience.

Yours faithfully,

Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet
President of VMRO-MNM



Internal Macedonian Revolutionary Organization - Macedonia For The 
Macedonians (VMRO-MNM)!

February 13, 2001

Declaration

The Internal Macedonian Revolutionary Organization VMRO-MNM (Macedonia for 
the Macedonians) is writing in its declaration about the violations and 
political discrimination of the Macedonian people and the Macedonian 
country. Concerning the violations and the political discrimination executed 
by the organization of human rights – the UN. The organization VMRO-MNM has 
written and protested, and demanded an acknowledgement of Macedonia under 
its historical name, that the name FYROM and the non-Macedonian flag, the 
"fan", should be removed. This has not been done and our country is still, 
incorrectly, named FYROM.

At the Millennium conference, in the beginning of Sept. 2000, the UN wrote 
the "Millennium" declaration, a declaration of justice, solidarity and the 
rights of all people in the world. A very important issue they neglected to 
bring up and to do something Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet about, was the rights 
of people, living in exile and oppressed by the powers of the Western World 
and of the occupants. We, the Macedonian people, are still harassed in our 
own country, by the neighbouring occupants, the Western World and by corrupt 
Macedonians, anti Macedonians. Many Macedonians and Macedonian 
Organizations, from the Aegean part of Macedonia, the Pirin part of 
Macedonia, the Vardar Part of Macedonia and from all over the world, have 
written and told about Macedonia, about our nationality, culture, history 
and so on.

At this conference we did not retrieve our true Macedonian name, the name of 
our ancestors, the name of our country - Macedonia but still the false 
creation FYROM is used. Nor was our Macedonian flag, the symbol of Kutles 
returned, but instead the Macedonian people are supposed to be content with 
this discrimination and violation of our nation and to accept the 
non-Macedonian flag, the "fan". Our nation is the oldest in the world, still 
we Macedonians are being violated and offended. This is criminal, 
undemocratically, political discrimination by the United Nations.

The United Nations is supposed to be the world's greatest organization for 
Human Rights, not an organization, supporting "Albanian" terrorists and 
bandits on the Balkans. At the very beginning, when the terror organization, 
the UCK was formed in Tirana, the UN supported the organization and paid the 
terror soldiers their wages, equal to what a labourer makes in the Western 
World. The UN is a murder organization that organizes terror groups all over 
the world, and not only the UN but also other human rights organizations are 
devoted to the same actions.

What has been written in the declaration is the same as it was 50 years ago. 
Nothing has been done for the people living on this planet. People all over 
the world are suffering, people live in poverty and people are being 
murdered every other second because of the injustice of organizations that 
are supposed to help people. The people in power and responsible for this, 
live their lives in luxury. Children are being used as slave workers by rich 
bandits.

We, the Macedonian people, do not accept this and the UN do not exist to us 
since there is corruption, Mafia and bandits inside this organization and 
the things the UN is doing to Macedonia is criminal. We demand, for the last 
time, that the name FYROM be removed, together with the "fan", the 
non-Macedonian flag, that is hanging in New York.

I hope the UN will listen to the Macedonian nation this time.The European 
Union is also corrupt. This is a Mafia organization, containing bandits and 
criminals. The Macedonian organization has also written to them about the 
situation and told them to stop the violations and the political 
discrimination against the Macedonian people. We demand that the name FYROM 
be removed and that the true historical name, Macedonia, will be applied. 
The EU must also stop interfering in the internal affairs of Macedonia.
Visa requirement for Macedonians with Macedonian passports.
Macedonians with Macedonian citizenship are forced to have visas to the 
whole Western World and to many Eastern countries.

The Western World speaks about free movement for people, open borders and so 
on. This is not reality. The Macedonian people are harassed and 
discriminated politically. For us being able to visit relatives or friends, 
some Western countries demand both money and uncountable documents.

There are some countries that do not demand any money for the visa but the 
number of documents one has to produce are innumerable. Besides this, one 
must also be able to prove that one has a considerable sum of money in ones 
account.

If perhaps an old Macedonian couple would like to go to France to visit 
their children it is requested of them, besides the 100 DM mark each of them 
have to pay for the visas, that they have between 10,000 and 12,000 Francs 
in their saving accounts if they are to retain a visa. And then they also 
have to produce a number of papers just so they can visit their children.

Younger Macedonians must also produce a certificate of employment to prove 
that they are regularly employed in another country and not trying to sneak 
into France or any other Western Country for that matter!

I would like to ask the French Government about what kind of rules these are 
and why a person who seek visa must have such large amounts in his/her 
account. Most people in Macedonia do not have that kind of money in their 
accounts. Nor have the majority in the Western World such sums.

This way France stops Macedonians from visiting their relatives. Most 
western countries have similar systems to shut out the people they do not 
want. This system is undemocratic and dictatorial.

Another issue I want to bring up is about why the Macedonians that live in 
an EU country must have visa to visit another EU country. If one for example 
lives in Sweden and wants to go to Germany for perhaps a weekend trip one 
must have a visa.

I think that the EU countries ought to have the same rules for all the 
citizens in a country irrespective of their national belongings. If we have 
a residence permit in a country why do we then have to have a visa? The 
borders are "open" between the EU countries but not for us, for us they are 
closed, we are second-rate citizens. But the EU countries are making money 
on us, this is criminal.

I want to mention a non EU country where no visa is needed if one has a 
residence permit in a western country. This country is Switzerland. It is to 
some extent some kind of justice, however, Macedonian citizens living in 
Macedonia have no right to visit Switzerland without a visa; but it is more 
justice than what the EU countries are showing us.

The Macedonian Organization VMRO-MNM demand from all Western and East 
countries that the visa restraint for all Macedonian citizens immediately is 
removed.

Unfortunately there are other issues, more discriminating than the above 
mentioned. Macedonians who live in Macedonia and try to obtain permission to 
enter other countries, experiences great difficulty because of the 
"Albanians" that the foreign embassies in Macedonia have employed. One man, 
for example, has tried to obtain a visa to Switzerland, to visit his 
relatives, for several months. He is regularly employed and has provided all 
the documents and guaranties needed. These papers have then been sent as a 
registered letter to the Swiss Embassy in Macedonia but he has not even 
received an answer. He has visited the Swiss Embassy several times to hand 
in his application, since papers coming into "Albanian" hands disappear, but 
he has still not received a reply. The "Albanians" are complaining about 
violations and that they have no rights when it is the Macedonian people 
that are without rights. "Albanians" work at the hospitals, the authorities, 
airports, in large companies - often in top positions etc while the 
Macedonians experience unemployment. And since Macedonians encounter 
problems when they seek a visa permit the people you see travelling abroad 
are mostly "Albanians", who never seem to have any problems with any visa 
restraints. We know what nation that is oppressed and it is not the 
"Albanian" but the Macedonian nation. It is not surprising that people in 
Macedonia are afraid and do not trust the anti-Macedonian authorities.

An Organization

One strange thing is that the EU countries have different regulations 
different principles. Since they are members of the same union they ought to 
have one program, one statute, the same law in all EU countries, but this is 
not the case. In the Former Scandinavian Province of Sweden for example, you 
have to pay tax on books, which is a very big income source for the state. 
No other EU country has this rule. I feel that this tax ought to be removed 
immediately if there are to be the same EU rules.

It is also time to stop the discrimination and harassment against the 
immigrants in the Western World. An immigrant have no longer any rights. 
Their children are being persecuted in school. Immigrants are violated and 
discriminated, at the employment office, the unions, the labour market, the 
banks. Immigrants can no longer borrow money to start their own business 
because of their origin.

In Denmark they want to forbid home-language instructions in the schools. 
Immigrants are being discriminated and violated. As many as 40% of the 
immigrants want to leave the country too seek a better, more normal life. 
This concerns not only Denmark but whole of the Western World. In my opinion 
95% of the Western World is Racist, Fascist and Nazi. Their politicians 
write beautiful speeches and talk much but do not fulfil their promises. 
Secretly and in silence they are doing the opposite. And if an immigrant is 
to complain he is met with negative answers.

Nato, this nazi fascist and barbaric terror organization has occupied the 
country of Macedonia since the end of 1998 with its army troops of criminals 
and drug addicts. We have previously demanded that Nato must leave Macedonia 
and also pay compensation for everything that has been destroyed by Nato, 
for example roads, land and nature. For some time the soldiers have provoked 
and conducted criminal actions in Macedonia. They have armed the balisti, 
the "Albanians" from Caucasus so they can commence war and build their 
"Great-Albania". Macedonian soldiers have been kidnapped by the "Albanian" 
balisti to be used as trade for "Albanian" terrorists and Mafia bandits 
imprisoned in Macedonia. Numerous of Macedonian soldiers have been murdered 
by the "Albanian" fascists and Macedonian officers have been exposed to 
attacks and murdered.

In our country we do not accept drug addicts and alcoholics who takes 
advantage of our little girls, our little children. The Nazis and Fascists 
did the same under the Second World War as the Nato soldiers are doing now.

Nato has not come to Macedonia to keep the peace, but, as occupant, to steal 
the riches of Macedonia. Nato act as archaeologist and with its soldiers 
digging day and night to find and steal ancient Macedonian artefacts, gold 
and silver. And when they find the riches of Macedonia they have not time to 
dig them up but instead they use explosives. Then they arrive to the crime 
scene with their large machines, camouflaging the place, believing that no 
one will see them. This exploitation of a country is criminal.

How much the Western World has stolen from Macedonia we do not know yet, but 
I would guess that the sum exceeds hundreds of thousands billion dollars. 
The Macedonian people are living in poverty in their own country while the 
Western Worlds fascists and nazis are exploiting Macedonia. It is like 
taking the bread out of the child's mouth, Macedonia is a small country 
compared to "mighty" Europe.

I, as president of the Macedonian Organization VMRO-MNM, am optimistic, than 
one day you will return everything that you have stolen from us. The 
organization VMRO-MNM is giving Nato its last ultimatum, to leave Macedonian 
territory within thirty days.

In my previous letters to the Nato barbarians I wrote about the lethal 
weapons they have used in Serbia and other parts of the world. These 
criminal elements have poisoned the entire nature of the Balkans. Also 
Macedonia was hit under this so called "war" by hundreds of projectiles. 
Projectiles, that "missed" their aims in Serbia and in the province of 
Serbia, Kosovo-Metohija, and instead hit Macedonian territory. And Nato 
aircraft that could not land in the Adriatic Sea with their bombs emptied 
their deadly cargo over Macedonia. And the tracks were swiftly covered up by 
the Nato terrorists. The bombs were removed, the ground was covered with 
soil and grass. No Macedonian police, soldiers or journalists were allowed 
to pass on to the places of impact. But the poison that was spread in nature 
could not be covered up.

Eventually it has been revealed in the Media, what we already previously 
knew about the Western World's interference in other countries and their 
bombings with toxic material. The war in Iraq and the bomb attacks against 
Serbia, now finally the world reacts and criticise the Nato barbarians and 
terrorists, now when several people have died in diseases related to these 
attacks.

One should not only think about the soldiers. On the Balkans there are over 
50 million people. How many of them who have become sick because of these 
chemical weapons no one knows yet.

The people involved in these bombings must be convicted of war crimes in The 
Hague:

Bill Clinton (Hitler II)
Madeline Albright
General Wesley K Clark
Richard Holbrooke
Tony Blair
Robin Cooke
Marti Ahtisaari
Javier Solana
Nato member states' governments
The government of Tirana

Gerhard Schröder
Joseph Fischer
Jacques Chirac
Göran Persson
Anna Lindh
Carl Bildt
United Nation Secretary
General Koffi Annan
The government of "Bulgaria"
The anti Macedonian government

The Governments of the Western World.
the Western World's authorities help the "Albanian" balists from Caucasus by 
letting them demonstrate and protest in the west about demands of Human 
Rights in Macedonia. Rights they already have but the Macedonian people 
lack.

So the "Albanians" demonstrations and protests are not about obtaining Human 
Rights but about provoking and frightening the Macedonian Nation. This has 
been going on for a very long time and the Macedonian people in the Western 
World feel provoked and threatened.

Several Macedonians have written to the anti-Macedonian Government to 
acquire an end to this. They have asked the government to urge the 
governments of the Western World to end and forbid such demonstrations.

But the anti-Macedonian Government is not on the side of the Macedonian 
people. It is a Mafia organization, consisting of terrorists, bandits, 
agents and spies. They who sit in the "government" and "parliament and also 
in political organizations are corrupt and sell themselves for western 
currency. Of course there are honourable Macedonian politicians but they 
have no power. They are tortured, imprisoned, murdered or forced to leave 
their native country.

It is therefore impossible that such a Government would demand that the 
Western World should stop and forbid these provocations that the "Albanian" 
balists carry out, organized by the Western World's Mafia organizations.

The groups that demonstrates are terrorists and bandits. Therefore I do not 
believe that the west will stop such demonstrations.

I, as president of the Organization VMRO-MNM have promised the Macedonian 
people that I will demand from all countries where there is "Albanian" 
balists, terrorists and Mafia that they immediately stop these 
demonstrations.

This declaration will be sent out to all the countries in the world and with 
this I demand that these provocative demonstrations, carried out by 
"Albanian" balists, immediately are stopped.

The Human Rights Organizations and Institutes in the world.
All those organizations that are called Human Rights Organizations have been 
created by the Western World, for the criminal bureaucrats and bandits, for 
the Rich that want more and are never satisfied.

The most dangerous of these are the UN, EU, NATO, Amnesty International, 
Human Rights Watch, Helsinki Committee, UNICEF, USSC and the Red Cross. They 
are like Mafia Organizations, there to make money and to provoke outside the 
borders of the Western World. Bandits who sell weapons and create 
disturbances and war, who murder people.

My demand from these organizations is that they stop their blackmail, 
threats and murders on people around the world. People, who are truly 
intelligent, who will do good for the people in the world, whose first and 
only concern is not about money and who do not want to have anything to do 
with the corruption of the Western World.

The rich Capitalists of the Western World, with their money, behave as the 
"leaders" of the world. They believe they can do what they desire, bribe 
people or pay assassins to harass and terrorize good, honest people, people 
who want to work as good politicians, as good leaders in their own 
countries. But they are not given any chance by the bureaucrats and the Rich 
of the Western World who threaten their families or, eventually, murder 
them.

The politicians of the Western World criticise other countries outside the 
borders of the west about there being many corrupt politicians and so on. 
The truth is, that the corruption in the Western World is a gigantic 
Industry. The rich west bureaucrats and bandits ought to give the poor 
people the opportunity to prosper. Instead they take advantage of them, 
build hazardous fabrics in their countries and use their children as slave 
workers. These poor families, whose clever and intelligent children could do 
a lot of good in the world, are denied the right to adequate education.

Little girls and boys are kidnapped and brought to the brothels of the 
Western World. These little children are abused by paedophiles. Who are 
they? They are the ones sitting in Brussels, Strasbourg, the EU bureaucrats, 
the NATO barbarians. It is they who organize such organizations paid by the 
EU parliament. Stop the kidnappings executed by your Mafia organizations.

Such bandits, who drains the blood out of children, are vampires. Large 
Western World companies, for example McDonalds and many other companies, 
ought to be ashamed using little children to make a profit. But they can not 
be ashamed since they have no feelings, they are murderers, vampires. And 
regarding the large medical companies. Inferior medicine are sent to poor 
countries while medicine of good quality are sent to the rich bureaucrats. 
Poor people can not pay for expensive medicine, only for the cheap, inferior 
ones, but such medicine is ineffective. This destructive system must change. 
This is murder!

There are innumerable of funds in the world that are supposed to look to the 
best for man kind. But the only obligation they seam to have is to make the 
rich richer so they can continue with their lives in luxury. For example the 
children's cancer fund and the lung fund receive large contributions from 
the public but only 2% of it is used to help the sick.

Who is it then, who contributes to these funds? Well, ordinary people, 
adults but also children who ask their parents for money to certain 
collections that are being done in the schools. The only thing they are 
being, is cheated while the rich "democratic" bandits and politicians with 
their high salaries do not give away a single penny.

Speaking of crime and fraud I want to mention the human rights organization 
Amnesty International. Last year it came out that their criminal chairman in 
Stockholm had made a fortune on various funds. This man, Jesus Alcalá, lives 
in a luxurious house and drives around in a car worth around 100 000 DM. And 
his son has nothing to complain of.

Such criminal people and "human rights organizations" who are guilty of the 
death of millions of people, are not to be trusted, they are to be removed. 
They are not to be respected by the society of the world. This is not what 
the people should trust and invest in.

The neighbouring occupants of Macedonian territory:

The Athenians – the Asian race that since 1830 is named "Greeks", (under 
Aleksandar Makedonski the Great’s empire Athens was known as the Asian 
province) occupying the Aegean part of Macedonia.The former Turkish gypsies 
that today are known as Bulgarians, occupying the Pirin part of Macedonia.

The balisti, "Albanians" from Caucasus, occupying the Western part of 
Macedonia, Mala Prespa.
The Serbian vrhovisti, occupying a part of Northern Macedonia.

They are given by the Macedonian National organization VMRO-MNM a last 
chance to return Macedonian occupied territory.

The Vatican, the Egyptian government and Turkey has received demands from 
the Macedonian organization VMRO-MNM to return everything that once was 
stolen from the Macedonian people and the country of Macedonia.

The Western World must accept the truth about the Macedonian history and the 
Macedonian nation. It is time for all museums, galleries, historical 
institutes’ etc., to return everything that has been stolen from us and to 
let the truth be revealed. The stolen Macedonian paintings, archaeological 
findings, statues of great Macedonian men and women, the stolen names of our 
kings and ancestors, our goods, the Macedonian classical antiquity and the 
truth about Macedonian literature, history, philosophy, poetry etc. This 
must be returned to the Macedonian people and the country of Macedonia. What 
belongs to us must be returned to us, immediately.

The organization VMRO-MNM is again asking the students of the world to stop 
reading false history, literature and poetry and instead accept the truth. 
Do not let so called professors, historians, scientists and politicians, 
writers and journalists plunder the Macedonian people and the country of 
Macedonia and give it to the Athenians and the Bulgarians.

Message for the Macedonian Nation

I urge all Macedonians, wherever they live in the world, to boycott the 
trade of goods from Athens (Made in "Greece"), from the Asian Tatari (Made 
in "Bulgaria"), the Former Yugoslavian Republic of Slovenia (Made in 
"Slovenia") and the Former Yugoslavian Republic of Croatia (Made in 
"Croatia").

The boycott against Athens and the Asian Tatari do not need any presentation 
since their conducts are widely known. But regarding the other two, FYROS 
and FYROC, these states buys goods from Macedonia, from the Macedonian 
bandits, the Mafia, and then put their own labels on these goods. This is 
something we cannot accept, this is criminal!

Neither wine, as Vranac for example (a Macedonian wine that has been 
produced for thousands of years), nor preserved vegetables, as for example 
ajvar, pindjur, strong pepper (feferoni), mixed salad, are manufactured in 
Slovenia but is brought directly from Macedonia. The only thing the 
Slovenians do is to put their own labels on the cans. The Croats uses the 
same pranks on for example red paprika from Macedonia.

The Macedonian Nation must also boycott all diplomatic relations with FYROC 
since their Government co-operates with the Asian tatari's Government in 
Sofija in order to forge Macedonian history. Both Governments have made a 
deal about building a big statue in the town of Gjakovo in FYROC, 
representing two Macedonian patriots who fought for the Macedonian culture, 
two brothers, Dimitar and Konstantin Miladinovci. The Zagreb and the Sofija 
Government tries to take this legends from the Macedonian people and turn 
them into "Bulgarians". This is both humiliating and criminal by these 
Governments to continue to forge the history of other nationalities. The 
Macedonian nation do not accept this.

The family of Dimitar and Konstantin Miladinovci have protested and they 
have tried to stop these Governments attempts. The Macedonian Revolutionary 
Organization VMRO-MNM support their claims and we demand from the Zagreb 
Government that they stop meddling in other people's history and that they 
keep their hands from the Macedonian nation and the Macedonian history. This 
declaration will be sent to the Zagreb Government and with it the Macedonian 
organization demand a written answer that the claims from the family of 
Dimitrija and Konstantin Miladonovci and VMRO-MNM will be accepted.

FYROS and FYROC, who have acknowledged Macedonia under its true, accurate 
name, still uses the name FYROM in international connections, as for example 
the Eurovision Song Contest. The Macedonian nation do not concede to this.

Catastrophically events continues in Macedonia. In the western parts of 
Macedonia the Macedonian children do not longer dare to go to school because 
of the "Albanian" terrorists. The terror leaders from the Serbian province 
of Kosovo-Metohija, Arben Dzaferi and Hashim Thaci (Tachi) have organized 
and armed "Albanian" youths. Many Macedonian children have been severely 
maltreated. This has made the Macedonian children afraid of going to school 
in their own country. Other children have been kidnapped and brought out of 
the country to the brothels of the Western World and to the luxury hotels 
and clubs of paedophiles. We do not accept these deeds.

And the "Albanian" terrorist leader Arben Dzaferi who is a member in the 
anti Macedonian Government in Skopje and terrorist leader no 2, Hashim Thaci 
(Tachi), in the Serbian province of Kosovo-Metohija, have organized a new 
terror organization together with Nato, in our country Macedonia. On Jan 22, 
2000, they performed a terror attack on a police station in the village of 
Tearce in the Macedonian region of Tetovo. One policeman was murdered and 
three others were severely injured. We can not accept this. These 
terrorists, both "Albanians" and Nato must leave our country immediately. 
The Macedonian people in Macedonia must boycott "Albanian" stores and both 
adults as children must stop speaking to "Albanians", at work, in the 
streets, in the schools etc.

A boycott against the country "Albania" where the "Albanian" balists from 
Caucasus resides is however not necessary since there are no goods "Made in 
Albania". These unintelligent people have neither industries nor any 
products. They have terror organizations and Mafia bandits and their trade 
is in drugs from different countries and Mafia groups and in the Western 
World's weapons and drugs. They do not know anything else but crime, to 
murder and rape and provoke war.

An Appeal from the Macedonian Organization VMRO-MNM

The Macedonian Organization VMRO-MNM appeal for help and support, for 
acknowledgement of our country and for our independence.

We thank the countries that have acknowledged Macedonia under its true, 
historical name and wait for remaining countries to follow their example as 
soon as possible.

We ask for support in the struggle against inequitable organizations and 
institutions for human rights. And by protesting, make these acknowledge 
Macedonia under its true, historical name and that the name FYROM vanishes 
for ever.

The Macedonian people are living, in all of the occupied territories, a 
terrible life in poverty with violations, torture and imprisonment. The 
Macedonian people have no human rights what so ever. Some months ago 
VMRO-MNM received a tape from a Macedonian group in Germany. The tape showed 
people, living in extreme poverty in the Aegean part of Macedonia, occupied 
by the Athenians.

Old people were interviewed and what they told us on the tape was 
unforgettable. They appealed to Macedonian patriots to save them from the 
penury they are living in because of the Athenian fascistic occupants. This 
tape reveals many villages that have been forgotten by the rest of the 
world. Water and electricity is missing, the houses are old, worn down and 
not fit to be inhabited. Nor is 80-90 year old people allowed to speak 
Macedonian but are forced to learn Athenian. Why these old people are alone 
in these forgotten villages without any children is because of their 
children being forced to leave the Aegean part of Macedonia by the Athenian 
fascists. These old people have never seen their children again and they 
have never meet their grand children since they are not let in to the Aegean 
part of Macedonia by the occupants.

Genocide has been performed in the Aegean part of Macedonia by the Athenian 
occupants. The most known are the one after 1913 and during the Second World 
War and after. This tape is proof of what the Macedonian people, in the year 
2001, are experiencing in their own country. One can wonder how a country, 
the so called "Greece" can be a member of the EU, a "democratic" 
organization. The bureaucratic bandits in Brussels, Strasbourg and 
Luxembourg should be ashamed.

If this tape was to be copied and sent to the press and the media of the 
world we can guarantee that no one would show it. The Western World would 
stop it so the truth about the Macedonian people will not come out. But the 
future will show the truth about the Macedonian nation.

This appeal will be sent by e-mail to all the governments of the world. We 
ask you to answer as soon as possible, by registered letter, sign by the 
country's head of State, on the address:

Web Site: www.vmro-mnm.com
Contact: redacted@vmro-mnm.com, redacted@vmro-mnm.com, 
redacted@vmro-mnm.com, redacted@vmro-mnm.com

We thank the countries that have supported us since before and they who in 
the future will support us.

United Macedonia

United Macedonians


Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet

President of the Macedonian Organization VMRO-MNM


VMRO-MNM (MAKEDONIJA NA MAKEDONCITE)
President: Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet
Koppargården 13 C
261 43 LANDSKRONA
SWEDEN

Tel/fax: +46 418 13624

October 21st, 1998

To the Athenian, Fascist occupation 'government'!

You have received, from your Embassy in Stockholm, copies of my letters that 
I have written to different authorities and organizations about the 
violations against and the discrimination of the Macedonian nation and the 
Macedonian history.

In my letter dated August 10th 1998, I gave the Athenian fascist occupants 
an ultimatum that by October 1st 1998 to leave occupied Macedonian 
territory, the Aegean part of Macedonia. 21 days have past but you are still 
on Macedonian territory.
I give you one last chance to immediately leave Macedonian territory, the 
Aegean part of Macedonia.

The Macedonian hero, Goce Delcev the great (born 1872, murdered 1903) born 
in Kukus, in the Aegean part of Macedonia, has left behind strong and 
intelligent patriots. We will take back our Macedonian territory from the 
Athenian fascists and Solun will get back its title as Macedonian capital.

VMRO-Makedonija na Makedoncite becomes stronger and stronger. We will take 
back our stolen Macedonian history. And everything in the world, as statues, 
symbols, archaeological items and so on, which belongs to the Macedonian 
nation, will be brought back.

The Macedonian nation can no longer cope with these violations and terror. 
Macedonians are being abused, imprisoned, our rights have been taken from 
us. For 85 years you have changed everything. You have changed the names of 
Macedonian towns and areas and the family names of the Macedonians. You have 
changed our traditions and nationalities.

All Athenians are to leave Macedonian territory, immediately. The houses and 
land you have stolen from the Macedonians are to be returned to the 
rightfully owners. You can live and support yourselves in your own country.

The Macedonian nation will never forget or forgive the Athenians for what 
they have done to the Macedonian nation. They have murdered and slaughtered 
Macedonians. They have burnt down the houses of the Macedonians. They have 
tried to exterminate the whole Macedonian nation. This time the West Fascist 
and Nazi world will not be able to help you.

They are not welcome in our country. We do not want the Western Occupants, 
the CIA, the UN, and so on in our country. The Macedonian nation can do 
without the Western World's fascists, Nazis, bureaucrats and fanatics.

Everyone knows that the 'borders' are incorrect. We Macedonians do not 
accept these false 'borders'.

The VMRO-MNM has decided to take back the occupied territories from you, 
from the Bulgarian Sevonistic occupants, from Serbian Cetnik occupants and 
from the 'Albanian' Balistic occupants.

We also demand that you immediately remove our King Aleksandar Makedonski 
the Great and our symbol, the sun with 16 beams, the symbol of Kutles, from 
your currency.

All the documents that you have written our signed together with the 
Macedonian traitor organization MPO-SDSM are not valid to the Macedonian 
nation or to the party VMRO-MNM. Only documents with VMRO-MNM are valid.
Long live the Macedonian nation!
Long live the Macedonian country!

Jas sum Makedonec a ne Fyromec!
Nie sme Makedonci a ne Fyromci!

President of VMRO-MNM (MAKEDONIJA NA MAKEDONCITE)

Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet


VMRO-MNM (MAKEDONIJA NA MAKEDONCITE)
President:Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet
Koppargården 13 C
261 43 LANDSKRONA

Tel/fax: +46 418 136 24

October 23d, 1998

To the 'Bulgarian' barbaric fascist and Nazi occupation 'government'!

86 years have past since the 'Bulgarian' Sevonists, in 1912, occupied 
Macedonian territory, the Pirin part of Macedonia.

August 10th 1913 Macedonia was divided into 3 parts according to the 
Bucharest treaty, between 'Bulgarian' Sevonists and fascists, Athenian 
fascists, Serbian communists and Cetniks. The Macedonian nation has never 
accepted the dividing of the country.
According to the same treaty, where West fascists, Nazis and Macedonian 
traitors participated, the occupied territories was to be returned by August 
10th 1998.

On August 10th 1998, the time expired when the occupants were to leave 
Macedonia in peace. In the letter I sent to the European Parliament, on that 
day, I and my party VMRO-Makedonija na Makedoncite gave an ultimatum and 
demand to the occupants to leave Macedonian territory by Oct 1st 1998.
23 days have now past. Still, the occupants have not left Macedonian 
territory. Still, the 'Bulgarian' Sevonists have not left the Pirin part of 
Macedonia.

For many years our people have had to suffer violations, discriminations, 
torture and murder. That or identity, culture and traditions have been taken 
from us. That our Macedonian history has been stolen from us. Our history 
has been forged and rewritten to suit the occupants.

We know, as you and the whole world know, that you in the beginning were not 
Christians. That you are Asiatic gypsies who came as refugees to the 
Balkans, to Macedonian territory.

The Macedonian nation does not accept being occupied. 3,2 million 
Macedonians live in the Pirin part of Macedonia and in towns outside, in 
'Bulgaria'.

The Western World's fascists, Nazis, bureaucrats and fanatics support and 
help 'Bulgarian' Sevonists to violate and discriminate the Macedonian 
nation.
'Bulgarian' Sevonists have imprisoned and tortured many, many Macedonians. 
Only one single case has been brought up to the European Court in 
Strasbourg.
I am mot going to bring this up right know. These 86 years when 'Bulgarian' 
Sevonists have slaughtered and murdered Macedonians, thrown out Macedonians 
and taken over their homes and land, performed ethnical cleansing against 
the Macedonians. All these things will be brought up when you have left 
Macedonian territory.

All documents that have been written together with, or signed with the 
Macedonian traitor party MPO-SDSM are invalid. Only documents with 
VMRO-Makedonija na Makedoncite are valid.

I am very curious on what you together with VMRO-DPMNE' leader Ljubco 
Georgievski have discussed and signed. Why, he has many times visit Sofija, 
but not a single time has he met with any Macedonian.

On May 6-7th 1995 I was at VMRO-DPMNE' Second Congress in Kicevo, Macedonia, 
as a delegate.
VMRO-DPMNE had invited a 'Bulgarian' Sevonist to the congress. And he called 
us -our valuable brothers. I and most of the people in the hall were 
shocked.
At that time I lost my confidence for the VMRO-DPMNE, when they invited an 
occupant and fascist, a murderer, to a Macedonian Party Congress.
I and my party VMRO-Makedonija na Makedoncite do not trust the VMRO-DPMNE.

I give you a last chance to, immediately leave Macedonian territory, or else 
it will be war.

Long live the Macedonian nation!
Long live the Macedonian country!

Jas sum Makedonec a ne Fyromec!
Nie sme Makedonci a ne Fyromci!

President of VMRO-MNM (MAKEDONIJA NA MAKEDONCITE)

Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet


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Letter to the "Albanian", balistic, terroristic, fascist occupation 
"government"
Posted by MACEDONIAN REVOLUTIONARY on 6/8/2003, 3:37 pm
213.112.68.109

VMRO-MNM (MAKEDONIJA NA MAKEDONCITE)
President: Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet
Koppargården 13 C
261 43 Landskrona
SWEDEN

Tel/Fax: +46 418 13624

October 29th, 1998

To the "Albanian", balistic, terroristic, fascist occupation "government"

I am writing to you concerning the ultimatum and demand that was given to 
you by VMRO-MAKEDONIJA NA MAKEDONCITE. The ultimatum and demand expired Oct. 
1st, 1998.

Now 29 days have past, but "Albanian", balistic, fascistic occupants are 
still on Macedonian territory.
You have no right to any country, no right to any acknowledge. You are 
newcomers on the Balkan.
For about 120 years ago you were brought here from Caucasus by the Turks to 
work for them as there police dogs. To perform genocide on the Macedonian 
people. To slaughter and murder Macedonians who were occupied by the Turks.
The area that you today call "Albania" is, as the whole world know, really 
Macedonian territory.
Under the Second World War you slaughtered and murdered Macedonians with 
German Nazis' and Italian Fascists' "kind" permission. As "thanks" for your 
"loyalty", you were given one more piece of Macedonia, Mala Prespa.
At the time when the Turks brought you from Caucasus you were a small group. 
But since you produces so many children, like rabbits, you have grown 
incredible fast.

In 1913 you were acknowledged as a new nation and a piece of Macedonia was 
acknowledged as your new country "Albania" (plus under the Second World War 
you were "given" Mala Prespa).
How is the situation today? You want to steal more, to have an even bigger 
"Albania". With the help from the Western Fascists, Nazis Bureaucrats and 
fanatics since you are the most stupid and poor people in the world.
All the things "you have" succeeded in doing under these years is with the 
Western World's help and with the Western World's Fascist and Nazi media.
"You have" succeeded in register "political" (terroristic) parties in 
Macedonia, to sit in the Macedonian parliament, to have ambassadors in 
foreign countries at Macedonian Embassies, officers within the Macedonian 
army and police. "You have" also succeeded in having gymnasium and 
universities in the "Albanian", balistic language.

All this have you succeeded in doing in Macedonia with the help from the 
Western World's Fascists, Nazis and Macedonian traitors and corrupt 
Macedonians.

I want to mention some of the traitors who have helped you:
Kiro Gligorov, Branko Crvenkovski, Frckovski, Handiski, Kitanovski, 
Todorova, Klusev, Tupurkovski, Tito Petkovski and so on.

You "Albanian" fascists and Balists complain and protest all the time about 
you being discriminated in Macedonia although you have received everything, 
even more than what the Macedonian people receive in their own country.
Not in any western country have foreigners these rights that you have in 
Macedonia. But it is not this you want but you want a Great Albania, this 
you can only dream about.

In Mala Prespa , occupied by "Albanian" Balists and Fascists lives 650 000 
Macedonians. Their rights have been taken from them. They have no rights at 
all. They have no gymnasium or universities. "Albanian" Balists and 
Fascists, terrorists with black uniforms steal and plunder Macedonian 
houses. They threat the parents that they shall kidnap their daughters and 
sell them. This is the "Albanians" tradition, to kidnap, threaten and 
plunder. And this, to kidnap, did they once learn from the Turks.
The Macedonian nation will never forget or forgive what they have done and 
this will the "Albanian" Balists have to pay dearly.

The Western World's Fascists, Nazis, the UN troops, American soldiers and 
CIA agents in Macedonia and Macedonian traitors are guilty to the state 
Macedonia is in.
The Western World organizes terror organizations in Tirana and have armed 
them.
"Albanian" Balists and Fascists arrive with weapons to Macedonia. The UN 
soldiers shut their eyes and keep quiet. They help the "Albanian" Balists, 
Fascists and terrorists to enter Macedonian territory with large quantities 
of weapon. So that you shall be prepared and armed to start war and build 
your Great Albania.
You will not succeed with you plans. The party VMRO-MNM will not let 
Macedonia be divided and the Macedonian nation shattered again.

In the Serbian province of Kosovo-Metohija you have succeeded so well thanks 
to large support and help from the Western World. First of all from the 
Americans, then the Englishmen, Germans, Italians, Frenchmen, Spaniards and 
so on.
Your best friends, the Americans, have given you "Albanians" and terrorists 
millions of dollars to buy weapons. And you have also received financial 
support from other western countries.

You have managed well with your friend Richard Holbrooke. When he some 
months ago met with the UCK he had to take off his shoes and sit down 
between two armed terrorists.
The only fault you did was that you did not put a weapon is his hands too 
and a black terror uniform or a white cap.

You have, with your propaganda and crying, managed to get the whole world on 
your side. The greatest help, have you gained through west Fascist media who 
write and show pictures of you. These pictures are "fixed", they are false.
You had never managed this without the Western World's help. It is they who 
have taught you what you should do.

Concerning the "Albanian", balistic Fascists and Terrorists in Macedonia.
Many "Albanian" families have "fled" from Kosovo-Metohija and "Albania" to 
Macedonia. Many of you have been given Macedonian citizenship's although you 
have no right to it. Many "Albanians" are staying in Macedonia with false 
identification papers.
The illegal "refugees" have the right to vote in local government elections 
and in parliament elections.
All this have you been given by the traitors, siptaromani
Kiro Gligorov, Branko Crvenkovski, Frckovski, Handiski, Kitanovski, 
Todorova, Klusev, Tupurkovski, Tito Petkovski, Ljubco Georgievski and so on.

Now in Oct/Nov it is parliament election in Macedonia. "Albanians" have the 
right to vote and your terror organizations, who calls themselves parties, 
have the right to sit in the parliament.

I congratulate you in having managed with everything you have demanded in 
Macedonia. You all stick together. If you continue this way you will succeed 
in building your Great Albania.
Also the Macedonian nation are stupid who do not understand what will happen 
if no one stops you.

You have succeeded in getting the newspapers in Macedonia to write about you 
and the Macedonian radio to talk about you every day and they show you on TV 
all day long.
You do not need any "Albanian" media in Macedonia when you "own" the 
Macedonian media.
Even Macedonian newspapers in the Western World writes about you, half the 
newspaper is about you.

It seems like you have the power in Macedonia an not the Macedonian people.

I, as President of VMRO-MNM, will change the system that exists in our 
country Macedonia.
All the journalists that the whole time write and talks about you will loose 
their rights to work as journalists.
We will see to that a democratic and a fair media is formed. Not the corrupt 
media that we have today.

VMRO-DPMNE and DA co-operates with the "Albanian" Balists and Fascists. 
VMRO-DPMNE and MPO-SDSM tries to divide Macedonia, one part to the 
"Albanians" and one to the "Bulgarians".
VMRO-DPMNE drags VMRO's name through the mud.
The traitor Vasil Tupurkovski have promised the "Albanian" Balists that 
their gymnasium and universities will be legalized.

The traitor Vasil Tupurkovski can not decide this himself in Macedonia.
If he wants to give the "Albanians" universities and gymnasium legally, he 
have to go to Tirana since it soon will be no "Albanian", balistic Fascist 
on Macedonian territory.

All "Albanian" Balists will be expelled from Macedonian territory. Other 
foreigners that live in Macedonia will be expelled if they do not respect 
Macedonian laws.
VMRO-MNM will give the same rights to all people in the country, but not 
more to foreigners - as they have now - than what Macedonians have.

The "Albanian" Balists and Fascists from Caucasus must respect VMRO-MNM's 
ultimatum and demand and immediately leave Macedonia and the Macedonian 
territory, Mala Prespa, and to take their "Albanian" terrorists from 
Macedonia to Tirana.

If you do not do this, VMRO-MNM will be forced to liberate occupied 
territories from "Albanian" Balists and Fascists and throw out all 
"Albanians" from Macedonia.
And no "Albanian" Balist and Fascist will stand around saying - as they 
previously have done - that in the Macedonian parliament we speak "Albanian" 
and that Macedonia will be bloody.
Nor will Rexhepi and Haliti stand around babbling - as they have done lately 
- that there will be "Albanian" parties and people in the Macedonian 
parliament.
No "Albanian" Mafia or criminal drug dealers will be left on Macedonian 
territory and bomb attempts will no longer be made in Macedonia by the 
"Albanian" terrorists.

I will say to you for the last time
leave the occupied territory, Mala Prespa
All "Albanians" shall leave the Macedonian country or else you will loose 
whole of "Albania" - as you call it - and you will be expelled to your own 
native country Albania that lies in Caucasus.
Long live the Macedonian nation. Long live the Macedonian country.

SMRT NA FASIZMOT SLOBODA NA MAKEDONSKIOT NAROD
I MAKEDONSKATA OKOPIRANA ZEMJA!

President of VMRO-MNM (MAKEDONIJA NA MAKEDONCITE)
Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet

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Sega ja zaeba... - Struga2003 6/9/2003, 8:52 am
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Sega ja zaeba...
Posted by Struga2003 on 6/9/2003, 8:52 am, in reply to "Letter to the 
"Albanian", balistic, terroristic, fascist occupation "government""
193.170.138.226

Aman be ja cekav da vidam neso novo ti pustas poraki od 1998. Si zaebal 
vojvodo i godini i poraki i sve

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Re: Sega ja zaeba...
Posted by MACEDONIAN REVOLUTIONARY on 6/9/2003, 9:36 am, in reply to "Sega 
ja zaeba..."
213.112.68.80

Postot so pismoto do albankata balistichka i fashistichka "vlada" ne go ima 
ostaveno Vojvodata TREPET, nego jas chlenot na VMRO-MNM.
Shto sakash da ti se pihuvam neshto novo, koga sve e vo "golma stabilnost i 
mir vo novo albanskata makedonija", odnosno vo novo golema albanija.
"Nema kidnapiranje na makedonski devojchina i ne se silovat i ne se 
dusmanski pretepuvat", nema napadi na anti makedonskite meshani policajski 
stanici" od nivnite plateni teroristichki bandi za da gji pushtat nivnite 
zatvoreni shiptarski teroristi i banditi, "nema maltretiranje na makedonci", 
"nema etnichko chistenje i genocid nad makeodnskiot narod", "nema 
teroristichki bombashki atentati vo centarot na novo albanskiot grad 
kumanovo". I. T. N.
Sve e pod "demokratska" kontrola na vashite "partii" i banditski organizacii 
"sdsm"-shizovrenicharskata, "dpmne"-shizofrenicharska i na vashite 
pobratimski "partija", odnosno na vashata pobratimska albanskati 
teroristichki i banditski organizacija "dui, ona i uck".
Shiptarskite teroristichki bandi "ne se zakanuvat za letna ofanziva" i da go 
donshtat makedonskiot narod ili da go soberat vo edna planiska dupka i da 
zhivi gji zakopat.

Shto da pisuvame za 2003 g. "Koga makedonskiot narod e bogat ima super 
zhivot, site makeodnci se zaposleni i zimat po 2000-3000 iljadi evra 
mesechni plati, odat na letni odmori po 5et nedeli vo drugji zemji i zhivee 
vo mir i stabilnost".

E mozham da kazham deka sekoja mu chas na makedonskiot narod. Makedonskiot 
narod si ima dvojazichna vlada i parlament, si ima shiptarska plicija i 
armija, si dobja dvojzichni dokumenti, si go prifatija ramkovniot dogovor, 
prifatija da im se ponishti istorijata, da im se ponishtat simbolite i dr. E 
sega ostana da shiptarite i makeodnskite izrodi da im naredat na Makedoncite 
da site makedonci kje morat da dadat po eden bubreg da im vadime posto im se 
potrebni i skapoceneti se.....Jas veruvam deka skoro site Makedonci kje gji 
prifatat naredbite so vadenje na po eden bubreg i toa so golema pochit i 
respek.

Po negohash morame da se povratime i nanazad so vistinski makedonski 
patriotski aktivnosti. Se razbira za da si prochitate za vashite katastrofi 
sho ste gji pravele na makedonskiot narod i shto kje gji pravite i vo 
idnina.......

SLOBODA ILI SMRT ZA OBEDINETA MAKEDONSKA ZEMJA
SLOBODA ILI SMRT ZA SPAS I SLOBODA NA CELIOT DOBAR I NAPATEN MAKEDONSKI 
NAROD

EDEN ZA SITE I SITE ZA EDEN

SMRT ZA MAKEDONSKITE KLETI IZRODI I PRODADENI DUSI
SMRT ZA SITE VNATRESHNI I NADVORESHNI NEPRIJATELI
SMRT ZA SITE CHLENOVI I SIMPATIZERI NA "SDSM"-SHIZOFRENICHARSKA
SMRT ZA SITE CHLENOVI I SIMPATIZERI NA "DPMNE"-SHIZOFRENICHARSKA

SMRT ZA "SDSM"-SHIZOFRENICHARSKA
SMRT ZA "DPMNE"-SHIZOFRENICHARSKA
SMRT ZA SITE ANTI MAKEDONSKI PARTII I ORGANIZACII
SMRT ZA SITE SHIPTARSKI TERORISTICHKI I BANDITSKI ORGANIZACII

VECNO DA ZHIVEE MAKEDONSKATA ZEMJA
VECHNO DA ZHIVEE DOBRIOT I NAPATENIOT MAKEDONSKI NAROD

VECHNO DA ZHIVEE VMRO-MNM NA MAKEDONSKIOT VOJVODA-CAR-KRAL TREPET-VELIKANOT
VECHNO DA ZHIVEE MAKEDONSKIOT VOJVODA-CAR-KRAL TREPET-VELIKANOT

JAS SUM MAKEDONEC A NE FYROMEC
NIE SME MAKEDONCI A NE FYROMCI

MAKEODNIJA NA MAKEDONCITE

MACEDONIAN REVOLUTIONARY
redacted@hotmail.com


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VMRO-MNM (MAKEDONIJA NA MAKEDONCITE)
President: Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet
Koppargården 13 C
261 43 Landskrona
SWEDEN

Tel/Fax: +46 418 13624

October 29th, 1998

To the "Albanian", balistic, terroristic, fascist occupation "government"

I am writing to you concerning the ultimatum and demand that was given to 
you by VMRO-MAKEDONIJA NA MAKEDONCITE. The ultimatum and demand expired Oct. 
1st, 1998.

Now 29 days have past, but "Albanian", balistic, fascistic occupants are 
still on Macedonian territory.
You have no right to any country, no right to any acknowledge. You are 
newcomers on the Balkan.
For about 120 years ago you were brought here from Caucasus by the Turks to 
work for them as there police dogs. To perform genocide on the Macedonian 
people. To slaughter and murder Macedonians who were occupied by the Turks.
The area that you today call "Albania" is, as the whole world know, really 
Macedonian territory.
Under the Second World War you slaughtered and murdered Macedonians with 
German Nazis' and Italian Fascists' "kind" permission. As "thanks" for your 
"loyalty", you were given one more piece of Macedonia, Mala Prespa.
At the time when the Turks brought you from Caucasus you were a small group. 
But since you produces so many children, like rabbits, you have grown 
incredible fast.

In 1913 you were acknowledged as a new nation and a piece of Macedonia was 
acknowledged as your new country "Albania" (plus under the Second World War 
you were "given" Mala Prespa).
How is the situation today? You want to steal more, to have an even bigger 
"Albania". With the help from the Western Fascists, Nazis Bureaucrats and 
fanatics since you are the most stupid and poor people in the world.
All the things "you have" succeeded in doing under these years is with the 
Western World's help and with the Western World's Fascist and Nazi media.
"You have" succeeded in register "political" (terroristic) parties in 
Macedonia, to sit in the Macedonian parliament, to have ambassadors in 
foreign countries at Macedonian Embassies, officers within the Macedonian 
army and police. "You have" also succeeded in having gymnasium and 
universities in the "Albanian", balistic language.

All this have you succeeded in doing in Macedonia with the help from the 
Western World's Fascists, Nazis and Macedonian traitors and corrupt 
Macedonians.

I want to mention some of the traitors who have helped you:
Kiro Gligorov, Branko Crvenkovski, Frckovski, Handiski, Kitanovski, 
Todorova, Klusev, Tupurkovski, Tito Petkovski and so on.

You "Albanian" fascists and Balists complain and protest all the time about 
you being discriminated in Macedonia although you have received everything, 
even more than what the Macedonian people receive in their own country.
Not in any western country have foreigners these rights that you have in 
Macedonia. But it is not this you want but you want a Great Albania, this 
you can only dream about.

In Mala Prespa , occupied by "Albanian" Balists and Fascists lives 650 000 
Macedonians. Their rights have been taken from them. They have no rights at 
all. They have no gymnasium or universities. "Albanian" Balists and 
Fascists, terrorists with black uniforms steal and plunder Macedonian 
houses. They threat the parents that they shall kidnap their daughters and 
sell them. This is the "Albanians" tradition, to kidnap, threaten and 
plunder. And this, to kidnap, did they once learn from the Turks.
The Macedonian nation will never forget or forgive what they have done and 
this will the "Albanian" Balists have to pay dearly.

The Western World's Fascists, Nazis, the UN troops, American soldiers and 
CIA agents in Macedonia and Macedonian traitors are guilty to the state 
Macedonia is in.
The Western World organizes terror organizations in Tirana and have armed 
them.
"Albanian" Balists and Fascists arrive with weapons to Macedonia. The UN 
soldiers shut their eyes and keep quiet. They help the "Albanian" Balists, 
Fascists and terrorists to enter Macedonian territory with large quantities 
of weapon. So that you shall be prepared and armed to start war and build 
your Great Albania.
You will not succeed with you plans. The party VMRO-MNM will not let 
Macedonia be divided and the Macedonian nation shattered again.

In the Serbian province of Kosovo-Metohija you have succeeded so well thanks 
to large support and help from the Western World. First of all from the 
Americans, then the Englishmen, Germans, Italians, Frenchmen, Spaniards and 
so on.
Your best friends, the Americans, have given you "Albanians" and terrorists 
millions of dollars to buy weapons. And you have also received financial 
support from other western countries.

You have managed well with your friend Richard Holbrooke. When he some 
months ago met with the UCK he had to take off his shoes and sit down 
between two armed terrorists.
The only fault you did was that you did not put a weapon is his hands too 
and a black terror uniform or a white cap.

You have, with your propaganda and crying, managed to get the whole world on 
your side. The greatest help, have you gained through west Fascist media who 
write and show pictures of you. These pictures are "fixed", they are false.
You had never managed this without the Western World's help. It is they who 
have taught you what you should do.

Concerning the "Albanian", balistic Fascists and Terrorists in Macedonia.
Many "Albanian" families have "fled" from Kosovo-Metohija and "Albania" to 
Macedonia. Many of you have been given Macedonian citizenship's although you 
have no right to it. Many "Albanians" are staying in Macedonia with false 
identification papers.
The illegal "refugees" have the right to vote in local government elections 
and in parliament elections.
All this have you been given by the traitors, siptaromani
Kiro Gligorov, Branko Crvenkovski, Frckovski, Handiski, Kitanovski, 
Todorova, Klusev, Tupurkovski, Tito Petkovski, Ljubco Georgievski and so on.

Now in Oct/Nov it is parliament election in Macedonia. "Albanians" have the 
right to vote and your terror organizations, who calls themselves parties, 
have the right to sit in the parliament.

I congratulate you in having managed with everything you have demanded in 
Macedonia. You all stick together. If you continue this way you will succeed 
in building your Great Albania.
Also the Macedonian nation are stupid who do not understand what will happen 
if no one stops you.

You have succeeded in getting the newspapers in Macedonia to write about you 
and the Macedonian radio to talk about you every day and they show you on TV 
all day long.
You do not need any "Albanian" media in Macedonia when you "own" the 
Macedonian media.
Even Macedonian newspapers in the Western World writes about you, half the 
newspaper is about you.

It seems like you have the power in Macedonia an not the Macedonian people.

I, as President of VMRO-MNM, will change the system that exists in our 
country Macedonia.
All the journalists that the whole time write and talks about you will loose 
their rights to work as journalists.
We will see to that a democratic and a fair media is formed. Not the corrupt 
media that we have today.

VMRO-DPMNE and DA co-operates with the "Albanian" Balists and Fascists. 
VMRO-DPMNE and MPO-SDSM tries to divide Macedonia, one part to the 
"Albanians" and one to the "Bulgarians".
VMRO-DPMNE drags VMRO's name through the mud.
The traitor Vasil Tupurkovski have promised the "Albanian" Balists that 
their gymnasium and universities will be legalized.

The traitor Vasil Tupurkovski can not decide this himself in Macedonia.
If he wants to give the "Albanians" universities and gymnasium legally, he 
have to go to Tirana since it soon will be no "Albanian", balistic Fascist 
on Macedonian territory.

All "Albanian" Balists will be expelled from Macedonian territory. Other 
foreigners that live in Macedonia will be expelled if they do not respect 
Macedonian laws.
VMRO-MNM will give the same rights to all people in the country, but not 
more to foreigners - as they have now - than what Macedonians have.

The "Albanian" Balists and Fascists from Caucasus must respect VMRO-MNM's 
ultimatum and demand and immediately leave Macedonia and the Macedonian 
territory, Mala Prespa, and to take their "Albanian" terrorists from 
Macedonia to Tirana.

If you do not do this, VMRO-MNM will be forced to liberate occupied 
territories from "Albanian" Balists and Fascists and throw out all 
"Albanians" from Macedonia.
And no "Albanian" Balist and Fascist will stand around saying - as they 
previously have done - that in the Macedonian parliament we speak "Albanian" 
and that Macedonia will be bloody.
Nor will Rexhepi and Haliti stand around babbling - as they have done lately 
- that there will be "Albanian" parties and people in the Macedonian 
parliament.
No "Albanian" Mafia or criminal drug dealers will be left on Macedonian 
territory and bomb attempts will no longer be made in Macedonia by the 
"Albanian" terrorists.

I will say to you for the last time
leave the occupied territory, Mala Prespa
All "Albanians" shall leave the Macedonian country or else you will loose 
whole of "Albania" - as you call it - and you will be expelled to your own 
native country Albania that lies in Caucasus.
Long live the Macedonian nation. Long live the Macedonian country.

SMRT NA FASIZMOT SLOBODA NA MAKEDONSKIOT NAROD
I MAKEDONSKATA OKOPIRANA ZEMJA!

President of VMRO-MNM (MAKEDONIJA NA MAKEDONCITE)
Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet


FROM: "Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet" redacted@vmro-mnm.com
DATE: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 13:40:32 +0100
TO: "Pavlos Gyparis" redacted@hotmail.com
CC: "Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet" redacted@vmro-mnm.com
SUBJECT: Alo atina ovde e MAKEDONIJA! Hello athens here is MACEDONIA!

The Internal Macedonian Revolutionary Organization -
Macedonia for the Macedonians (VMRO-MNM)!

November 14, 2002

To Pavlos Gyparis

I am writing to you regarding your false and provocative mails that you sent 
to the Macedonian Organization VMRO-MNM on October 4, 2002. Actually, you do 
not deserve any answer since you are not interested in the truth. The only 
interest you have in our Macedonian history is for the purpose of falsifying 
it and make it your own. Thus, everything you have written, as you and the 
rest of the Athenians already know, is inaccurate.

You have been brainwashed by your criminal politicians and fanatics and the 
Western World's dictatorship regime.

Since you are of Arabian descendent you are the newcomers on Macedonian 
territory. However, you have been successful in buying friends in the 
Western World, such as writers, so called historians and experts, 
politicians and journalists, for the purpose of stealing our Macedonian 
history, culture and traditions and falsify them to suit you, the newcomers 
of Arabian origin. I do understand why you are doing this. Since you are 
gangsters you do as all criminals do: You do not admit your crime and you 
continue to claim your innocence.

You Athenians are very lucky having the Western World's "historians", 
writers, professors, etc, helping you to steal the Macedonian history. 
Consequently, the children in the world read about "Greek" history, "Greek" 
culture, "Greek" traditions, "Greek" gods and "Greek" antiquity. The truth 
is, that there are no "Greek" belongings, all of this belongs to us, the 
Macedonians. It does not belong to you newcomers.

You Athenians have succeeded pretty well with the Macedonian traitors who 
you pay to destroy the identity of the Macedonian nation. The Asian Tatars 
("Bulgarians"), the Albanians from Caucasus and the Serbs from the Armenian 
Mountains have also experienced the same success due to corrupt Macedonian 
traitors.

You mentioned the "presidents" Kiro Gligorov and Boris Trajkovski in your 
mails.

Boris Trajkovski-Vladika: "The beginnings of the statehood of the Macedonian 
Slavs go back to the end of the 10th century and beginning of the 11th, with 
the creation of Samoil's state.
After the fall of Samoil's kingdom, during the centuries-long slavery, the 
wish for a state of its own never extinguished. This is proved by many 
uprisings against foreign rulers. In the more recent history, during the 
Ottoman Empire in the Balkans and in Macedonia occurred the most well-known 
national liberation uprisings, the Karpos uprising in 1689, the Kresna and 
Razlovci uprisings in 1878". 
(http://www.president.gov.mk/eng/makedonija.htm)

It comes to no surprise if they have made such statements since they are the 
greatest traitors. Naturally, they will one day have to pay a high price 
from their treason.

I am a Macedonian. I am proud of being a Macedonian. I am proud of working 
for my country Macedonia and my Macedonian people. I am proud of my 
Macedonian culture, history and traditions. I am proud of our Macedonian 
kings and heroes who have given their lives for the Macedonian country and 
the Macedonian people. I am proud of our Macedonian brothers, Kiril and 
Metodij, who gave us, as you can see on the picture, our Macedonian, not 
Athenian, alphabet.

http://www.vmro-mnm.com/Among_the_oldest_alphabets_in_the_world_The_Macedonian_alphabet.htm

I and the Macedonian Organization VMRO-MNM will fight for the liberation of 
our occupied territories and we will return our stolen history, culture and 
traditions.

I want to mention an important protocol that I received a couple of days ago 
regarding a conference that will be held in the occupied Macedonian town 
Solun on November 15, 2002, with representatives from different 
organizations and folk groups. In this protocol, the Macedonian nation and 
the Macedonian language is mentioned. However, such protocols and 
conferences cannot help the Macedonian people regaining everything that has 
been stolen and occupied by the newcomers since the only thing they bring up 
is the language. Thus, the Macedonian Organization VMRO-MNM do not accept 
such protocols because, to us, it is not enough to only discuss the language 
since there are many other issues that are more important to discuss, for 
example, the return of everything that has been stolen from the Macedonian 
nation, including the occupied territories.

If you Athenians, together with the EU and the UN, believe that you can 
trick the Macedonian people and the Macedonian Organization VMRO-MNM by only 
acknowledging the Macedonian language, you are wrong. Furthermore, we know 
that, even if this discussion is held, the language will still not be 
acknowledged. It might exist on a piece of paper but not in the real world. 
This is only an act performed by you fascist Athenians, the EU and the UN.

Alo "atina", "sofija", "belgrad" i "tirana" ovde e MAKEDONIJA!

Hallo "athens", "sofija", "belgrad" and "tirana" here is MACEDONIA!

MAKEDONIJA NA MAKEDONCITE!
MACEDONIA FOR THE MACEDONIANS!

JAS SUM MAKEDONEC A NE FYROMEC!
NIE SME MAKEDONCI A NE FYROMCI!

VECNO DA ZIVEE MAKEDONSKATA ZEMJA!
VECNO DA ZIVEE MAKEDONSKIOT NAROD!

LONG LIVE MACEDONIAN!
LONG LIVE THE MACEDONIAN NATION!

MACEDONIA BELONGS TO THE MACEDONIANS NO ONE ELSE.

Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet
President of the Macedonian Organization VMRO-MNM


GREEK COMMITTEE OF THE EUROPEAN
BUREAU FOR LESSER USED LANGUAGES

PO BOX 100, 59200 NAOUSA – GREECE

TEL. ++.3850.22570
E-mail: redacted@otenet.gr

INFORMATION BULLETIN

OCTOBER 2002
NUMBER 1

PRESS RELEASE

On 26 January 2002 a meeting was arranged in Thessaloniki by the European 
Bureau for Lesser Used Languages for representatives of the linguistic 
minorities of Greece.

This historic meeting ended with a decision to create the Greek Committee of 
the European Bureau for Lesser Used Languages, in other words a committee of 
the Greek Section of the EBLUL.

The membership of the Greek Committee of the EBLUL will be as follows:

Chairman: Athanasios Parisis (Member of the Centre for Macedonian Culture)
Deputy Chairman: Sotirios Bletsas (President of the Society for Aroumounic 
(Vlach) Culture)
Secretary: Ibram Onsunoglu (Member of the Turkish Minority Movement for 
Human and Minority Rights)
Member: Petros Kazias (Member of the Centre for Macedonian Culture)
Member: Georgios Tsamitros (Member of the Society for Aroumounic (Vlach) 
Culture)
Member: Abdulhalim Dede (Member of the Turkish Minority Movement for Human 
and Minority Rights)

The objectives of the Greek Committee of the EBLUL are clearly set out in 
its charter:

1) To preserve and promote the minority languages of Greece, specifically 
the Aroumounic (Vlach), Macedonian, Pomak and Turkish languages.
2) To seek the introduction of the minority languages into the Greek 
educational system, in those regions where these languages are spoken.
3) To endeavour to preserve and promote the cultures of the aforesaid 
minority languages.

The Greek Committee of the European Bureau for Lesser Used Languages, in 
association with the Brussels Central Bureau, under the aegis and with the 
funding of the European Union, will endeavour to realise in tangible form 
its philosophy, namely the need to save and promote a peaceful and 
multicultural United Europe.


Report on Helsinki Conference
Creation of Joint Structures for Historic Linguistic Minorities in the 
European Union

Naousa 16 October

A delegation from the Greek Committee of the EBLUL, consisting of Messrs. 
Athanasios Parisis, Committee Chairman, and Sotirios Bletsas, Deputy 
Chairman, attended the Conference held in Helsinki, Finland, on 11-12 
October 2002. The Conference was held to discuss the subject: ‘Creation of 
joint structures for the historic linguistic minorities in the European 
Union’.

The Conference was organised by the Swedish Assembly of Finland, the 
National Finnish Association of Sweden, the EU Mission and the Ministry for 
Language of the Welsh Assembly.

Our delegation also participated in the work of the EBLUL Conference.

The Conference was addressed by Bojan Brezigar, President of the EBLUL, 
Paavo Lipponen, Finnish Prime Minister, Martti Ahtisaari, former President 
of Finland, Viviane Riding, EU Commissioner for Education and Culture, Asrid 
Thors, Finnish Euro MP, Ulpu Livari, Euro MP, Jean-Luc Dehaene, former Prime 
Minister of Belgium, and Colin H. Williams, Minister for Wales.

The theme of the Conference was a timely one, and very relevant indeed to 
the problems we are facing at the present time. It is connected to two key 
questions: the impending expansion of the European Union, and the control of 
developments in south-eastern Europe following recent upheavals.

Mr. Martti Ahtisaari, chairing the Conference, spoke among other things of 
the necessity of ensuring the protection of human rights and diversity in 
the current member states.

In discussion of the role of the EU in respect of minority languages, it was 
agreed that efforts must be made to encourage the development of basic 
standards, in accordance with which the member states will take appropriate 
measures, on the basis of their own individual cultures.

Given that in several member states of the EU the protection of linguistic 
rights is problematic, the Union’s role as coordinator in the development of 
these standards is of great importance.

M. Jean-Luc Dehaene, former Prime Minister of Belgium, stressed that the 
European Union must play its part when we are discussing the linguistic 
diversity of a future Europe. He also stressed the need for a strong 
constitutional basis, which will commit the European Union in its stance on 
linguistic and cultural difference.

It must be made clear in the future European Constitution that all languages 
have the same value and the same dignity.

Mrs. Viviane Riding, EU Commissioner for Education and Culture, described 
current EU plans for future policy on linguistic diversity.

Before the end of the year a consultation document will be published, 
setting out the future measures on linguistic diversity and the learning of 
languages in a European perspective.

The result of this process will be an exchange of views and cooperation 
between the European Parliament and the European Commission on the launching 
of an action plan.

Mr. Brezigar, President of the EBLUL, stressed the need to define minimum 
standards for the protection and promotion of regional and minority 
languages and to include them in future EU legislation.

This will benefit not only the linguistic communities, but the EU itself, 
allowing it to avoid future tension and possible conflict within the new 
member states. Mr. Brezigar also referred to the definition of entry 
criteria, in Copenhagen in 1993, where respect for minorities is a 
requirement which must be met by the candidate states.

Finally, Mr. Lipponen, Prime Minister of Finland, referred to the state of 
the linguistic groups in his own country and described the measures being 
taken to develop linguistic and cultural diversity.

Finland has two national languages recognised by the Constitution, Finnish 
and Swedish. He reminded his audience that the Swedish linguistic minority 
constituted only 6% of the population, an indication of the strength and 
flexibility required. Strength for each person to use his mother tongue; 
flexibility in the support for this from Finnish-speakers. He also 
emphasised the demand for the use of Swedish wherever required.

Flexibility is necessary in understanding that the fundamental principle of 
equality cannot be applied automatically. The Finnish-speakers, who make up 
92% of the population, need to be encouraged to learn another language in 
order to acquire the ability to understand the situation.

The Chairman
Thanasis Parisis

Announcement

Naousa 21 October 2002

The 1st International Conference of the Brussels EBLUL (European Bureau for 
Lesser Used Languages) will be held in Thessaloniki on Friday 15 November 
2002.

The Conference will be attended by representatives from the European 
Parliament, the Council of Europe, the Brussels EBLUL and various foreign 
experts in minority language issues.

On the Greek side, delegates to the Conference will include representatives 
of the linguistic minorities, specifically of the Aroumounic, Macedonian, 
Turkish and Pomak languages.

Finally, there will be addresses of welcome or brief speeches by 
representatives of Greek Non-Government Organisations.

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DATE: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 14:58:15 +0100
TO: GREEK COMMITTEE OF THE EUROPEAN BUREAU FOR LESSER USED LANGUAGES 
redacted@otenet.gr, "Mr. Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet" redacted@vmro-mnm.com, 
"Pavlos Gyparis" redacted@hotmail.com
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The Internal Macedonian Revolutionary Organization - Macedonia for the 
Macedonians (VMRO-MNM) !

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SUBJECT: Lazhna i provokatorska propaganda od azijatskoto-arabsko 
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FROM: "Pavlos Gyparis" redacted@hotmail.com | Save Address
DATE: Fri, 04 Oct 2002 14:05:21 +0300
TO: "VMRO-MNM" redacted@vmro-mnm.com
SUBJECT: The truth about Macedonia...

The truth about Macedonia...
? Simple answers to frequently used Slavic arguments "Greece officially 
denied the use of the name Macedonia after the Balkan wars."
This is a very inaccurate argument. There are several examples of state 
institutions and private businesses using the name Macedonia which operate 
in Greece since the early 1900s. These are just a few of them:
The "Macedonia" newspaper (1912)
The Society for Macedonian Studies (1939) [web site]
The museum of ancient Macedonia (1961) [web site]
The museum of the Macedonian struggle (1979) [web site]
Greece has been actively using the name Macedonia since its liberation from 
the Ottoman empire. If Greece's official position was to "deny the existence 
of Macedonia" how would it be possible for hundreds of private companies to 
be named after Macedonia?
"Greece has changed the "Macedonian" names of locations in the Macedonia 
region."
The Greek names are older than the Slavic ones and most of them have their 
roots in ancient Greece. The Greek names of the towns in Macedonia are also 
mentioned in the Bible. A characteristic example is Thessaloniki. This city 
was founded in 315 bc by the Macedonian king Kasssandros and it was named 
after Alexanders' half sister - Thessaloniki. How could the Greeks change 
the name from Solun (as the Slavs claim) to Thessaloniki in 1912 if that was 
the original name? The name Thessaloniki is even mentioned in the bible by 
St Paul. Why did he address his letters (epistoles) to the people of 
Thessaloniki and not the to the people of Solun?
What about the Greek names of towns inside FYROM used during the Ottoman 
times? Did Greece change them as well?
"Today's 'Greeks' and ancient 'Hellenes have no relation between them."
How is it possible for the people who live in the same region, speak the 
same language and have the same names and culture not to be descendants of 
the ancient inhabitants of the region? Similarly we could say that today's 
Egyptians are not descendants of ancient Egyptians and today's Chinese 
people are not descedants of ancient Chinese.
The name 'Greek' is in fact ancient as well as the famous philosopher 
Aritotelis verifies:
"...and she was not there forever, but after the cataclysm of Defkalion, 
which occurred in the Hellenic area, in fact, in the ancient Hellas, which 
was around Dodoni, and it changed many times the flow of Acheloos river. In 
that area live the Selloi and the ones that were once called Graecoi and are 
now called Hellenes..." [Aristotelis Meteorologika, I, 14]
"There is a large Macedonian minority in Greece"
There is no "Macedonian minority" in Greece because there is no such 
nationality. There is a small group of people who speak a Slavic dialect 
which is in fact different from what is claimed to be the "Macedonian 
language" These people are not a "Macedonian minority" as they consider 
themselves Greeks. There is also an even smaller group of Slav propagandists 
who are trying to create a Macedonian minority in Greece. Anyone who didn't 
consider him/herself Greek could and should have left Greece during the 
exchange of populations in 1919.
"One million people in Greece consider themselves Macedonians"
In the 1996 parliament elections in Greece the political party of the people 
who claim to be a "Macedonian minority" gained 3.485 votes (official 
result). In the 2000 parliament elections they didn't take up part at all. 
Of course there is no doubt of the integrity of the election procedures 
since Greece is a member of the European Union. If there was such a large 
number of "Macedonians" in Greece (1/10th) wouldn't be easy for them to 
stand up against the "Greek occupation"?
"Greece acquired illegally Aegean Macedonia in 1913"
Greece acquired 51% of Macedonia in 1913 as a result of the treaty of 
Bucharest. International treaties are not illegal. Furthermore Greece in 
1913 was not a powerful country to acquire any land it desired. This land 
was "given" to Greece because it historically belonged to Greece and its 
residents were Greek.
"What gives Greece the right to name another country? This issue is 
straightforward, every country has the right to call itself whatever it 
wishes."
This is a misleading statement. The author knows very well why Greece is 
objecting to the use of the name Macedonia. In fact every country has the 
right to chose its own name as far as it does not belong to another 
country's history. The name Macedonia belongs to the Greek history. Greece 
has the right to protect its history and heritage.
"Saints Cyril and Methdje (or Kirl and Metodi) were not Greeks but 
Macedonians."
Saints Cyrilos and Methodios were Greeks born in Thessaloniki and this is 
well known to all Christians. Pope John Paul the B' in an official apostolic 
homily to the entire Catholic Church proclaimed that Methodius and Cyril 
"Greek brethren born in Thessaloniki" are consecrated as "heavenly 
protectors of Europe". John Paul B' repeated this statement in a speech 
delivered in the church of Saint Clements, in Rome. You can see the original 
document here.
"Greece stole the Macedonian history"
Greece does not 'steal' history. It has its own lengthy and respected 
history. It is the only thing that Greece has plenty of it. The Greek 
history and culture is respected by all the countries in the world. People 
who don't have their own history need to 'steal' someone else's...
"Linguistic science has at its disposal a very limited quantity of 
Macedonian words. A very limited quantity in this case is a quantity indeed, 
that Greeks cannot ignore."
This argument proves the Greek point that the "Macedonian language" was a 
Greek a dialect. There only exists "a limited quantity of Macedonian words" 
because the Macedonian dialect had "limited" differences from the Greek 
language.
How could it be possible for a separate "ancient Macedonian language" to 
disappeared after what Alexander had achieved?
"If Philip united and not conquered the Greeks why did Alexander leave 
25.000 men of his army in Macedonia when he is about to face the strongest 
and most numerous army in the world?"
No sensible leader would go on a quest taking ALL his army with him and 
leaving his homeland unprotected!
And of course he did not leave 25.000 men in Macedonia because he was afraid 
of the other Greeks. Macedonia had lots of real enemies at its northern 
border (Illyrians, Dardanians,Paionians etc).
"If Macedonians were Greek then why only 30% of Alexander's army were 
Greek?"
The right question to ask is 'why as many as 30% of Alexander's army were 
from the rest of Greece?' After all Macedonians and Greeks were supposed to 
be enemies! The Macedonians 'conquered' the Greeks according to the Slavic 
version of the Macedonian history. The fact that a very significant part of 
Alexander's army were non-Macedonian Greeks shows the truth.
"Ancient Macedonians did not take part in the Olympic Games"
This is another false statement. It can be easily proved that people from 
Macedonia took part in the Olympic Games. For a list Macedonians who won the 
Olympic Games the click here.
"Ancient Macedonians fought against Greece."
This is another misleading statement. It is well known that the ancient 
Greek states were largely independed of each other and that often led to 
wars between them. Some well-known examples are the Peolloponisian was 
between Athens and Sparti, the Athenians quest in the island of Mitilini, 
the brutal war between Sparti and Thebes and many more. A war between two 
ancient Greek regions did not mean that one of them was not Greek.
"There are no ancient monuments written in the Macedonian language because 
Greek archaeologists destroy them when they are recovered."
Even if we accept that this is true it still doesn't explain why aren't 
there any monuments in the rest of Macedonia!
What about the ancient monuments in FYROM and Bulgaria?
What about the ancient monuments on Alexander's route in Asia?
Why aren't there any "non Greek Macedonian monuments" ?
Oh, I know why! The Greek archaeologists must have destroyed them as well 
!!!
"If in fact, "Macedonia is Greece", how come they feel the need to 
emphasize, to shout, and to proclaim over and over again? After all, we 
never hear them proclaiming that 'Thebes is Greece', or 'Sparta is Greece' 
".
If the Salvs wanted to name heir country "Republic of Thebes" or "Republic 
of Sparta" who would shout out "Thebes and Sparta are Greek". But they are 
claiming to be Macedonians so we shout that
"MACEDONIA WAS GREEK"
"MACEDONIA IS GREEK"
"MACEDONIA WILL BE FOREVER GREEK"

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FROM: "Pavlos Gyparis" redacted@hotmail.com | Save Address
DATE: Fri, 04 Oct 2002 14:11:35 +0300
TO: "VMRO-MNM" redacted@vmro-mnm.com
SUBJECT: Are FYROM's residents Macedonians?

? A quick review of the Fyromian web sites wil prove that they seem to be 
confused themselves:
Some of them believe they are descedants of ancient Macedonians Some of them 
beleive that they can consider themeselves Macedonians since they live in a 
part of what used to be ancient Macedonia Some of them believe they are 
Macedonians but not directly linked to ancient Macedonians Some of them 
believe they are Macedonians because they are free to call themselves as 
they like(!!!)
The official web site of the president of FYROM states clearly that these 
people came to Macedonia at the end 10th century:
"The beginnings of the statehood of the Macedonian Slaves go back to the end 
of the 10th century and beginning of the 11t, with the creation of Samoil's 
state."
Link: http://www.president.gov.mk/eng/makedonija.htm

Also the first president of FYROM president Mr. Kiro Gligorov confirmed 
twice that they are not related to the ancient Macedonians:

"We are Slavs who came to this area in the sixth century ... we are not 
descendants of the ancient Macedonians." (from the Foreign Information 
Service Daily Report, Eastern Europe, February 26, 1992, p. 35. )

"We are Macedonians but we are Slav Macedonians. That's who we are! We have 
no connection to Alexander the Greek and his Macedonia. The ancient 
Macedonians no longer exist, they had disappeared from history long time 
ago. Our ancestors came here in the 5th and 6th century (A.D)."
(from the Toronto Star newspaper, March 15, 1992)

The following questions are obvious:
Why do you call yourselves "Macedonians" and your language "Macedonian"?
Why do you use ancient Macedonian symbols if they don't belong to you?
The historic truth is that the Slavs descented into the region not before 
the 6th century long after ancient Macedonia was homogenized with the rest 
of Greece. They don't have any historical cultural or linguistic ties with 
ancient Macedonia and they would be realy foolish if they officialy claimed 
that they did. There is no historic or archaeological evidence connecting 
them with ancient Macedonia.

In any case occupying 25% of ancient Macedonian land does not give them the 
right to steal the Macedonian history and culture. The Macedonian 
civilization was part of the ancient Greek civilization. This is well known 
and recorded in history books. It is part of Greece's national inheritance 
and it can not be used by anyone else.

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DATE: Fri, 04 Oct 2002 14:16:56 +0300
TO: "VMRO-MNM" redacted@vmro-mnm.com
SUBJECT: Why FYROM should not be named "Macedonia"

The truth about Macedonia...

?

FYROM's residents have no historical cultural or linguistic ties with 
ancient Macedonia.

The heart of ancient Macedonia was not in the teritory which FYROM occupies 
but in the Greek part of Macedonia were all the major archaeological 
discoveries took place.

The name "Republic of Macedonia implies a teritorial threat against Greece 
and other countries and it creates a great risk of renewed ethnic conflict 
in the Balkans.

The area of FYROM was never called "Macedonia" before the 2nd World War. 
This name was given to the Southern Yugoslavian providence by General Tito 
aiming to create conflicts in the region and to obtain Greek and Bulgarian 
teritories. Before the 2nd World War FYROM was called Vardarska.

FYROM's population is a mixture of many different ethnic groups. Only 60% of 
them are "Macedonians". There is also a large minority of Albanians (30%) 
and smaller groups of Serbs Turks, Greeks and others.

Ancient Macedonia and its civilization was part of the ancient Greek 
civilization.

Suggestions

Some suggestions for FYROM's permanent name:
The name this region used since the 2nd world war - Vardarska
The ancient name of the region - Paionia
A name which describes the country geographicaly - Central Balkan Republic

Related links

Are FYROM's residents Macedonians?
http://truth.macedonia.gr/index02.html
The vision of "Greater Macedonia" [External link]
http://uranus.eng.auth.gr/new/eng/macedonia/kofos/

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The truth about Macedonia...

? What do the scholars say?
From "A History of Macedonia"
by Malcom Errington (Philipps-Universitat in Marburg, Germany)
University of California Press, 1993

Page 3
"That the Macedonians and their kings did in fact speak a dialect of Greek 
and bore Greek names may be regarded nowadays as certain."

Page 4
"Ancient allegations that the Macedonians were non-Greek all had their 
origin in Athens at the time of the struggle with Philip II."

From "Alexander's empire"
by John Pentland Mahaffy (University of Dublin, Ireland)
G Putnam's sons, London, 1881

Page 8
"... for with Alexander the stage of Greek influence spread across the 
world. "

From "The tutorial history of Greece, to 323 B.C. : from the earliest times 
to the death of Demosthenes"
by W. J. Woodhouse (Universiy of Sydney, Australia)
University Tutorial Press, 1904, (reprinted 1944)

Page 216
" This was Macedonia in the strict sense, the land where settled immigrands 
of Greek stock later to be called Macedonians"

From "The Western Experience"
by Mortimer Chambers (University of California),
Raymond Grew (University of Michigan),
David Herlihy (Harvard University),
Theodore Rabb (Princeton University)
and Isser Woloch (Columbia University)
Alfred A. Knopf, New York, 2nd edition , 1997

Page 79
"THE MONARCHS OF MACEDONIA:
Macedonia (or Macedon) was an ancient, somewhat backward kingdom in northen 
Greece. Its emergence as a Hellenic power was due to a resourceful king, 
Philip II (359-336), whose career has been unjustly overshadowed by the 
deeds of his son, Alexander the Great".

? What do the ancient historians say?
» On the origin on the Macedonians
» On the language of the Macedonians
» On the religion of the Macedonians
» On the culture of the Macedonians
» On the geography of Macedonia
» What did the Macedonians think of themselves?
» What did the rest of the Greeks think?
http://truth.macedonia.gr/quotes.html#origin

On the origin of the Macedonians

The Greek origin of the Macedonians is proven by the vast majority of the 
ancient historians.
Diodoros of Sicily talks about the links of Alexander to the Greek mythology 
(Diodoros, Historical Library 17.1.5):

"On his father's side Alexander was a descendant of Heracles and on his 
mother's he could claim the blood of the Aeacids, so that from his ancestors 
on both sides he inherited the physical and moral qualities of greatness."
Herodotus confirms that the Macedonians were people of Greek origin 
(Histories of Herodotus Book 5, paragraph 22.1)

"Now that these descendants of Perdiccas are Greeks, as they themselves say, 
I myself chance to know and will prove it in the later part of my 
history.That they are so has been already adjudged by those who manage the 
Pan-Hellenic contest at Olympia. "
And later on (Book 8, paragraph 137.1) he verifies it:

"This Alexander was seventh in descent from Perdiccas, who got for himself 
the tyranny of Macedonia in the way that I will show. Three brothers of the 
lineage of Temenus came as banished men from Argos to Illyria, Gauanes and 
Aeropus and Perdiccas; and from Illyria they crossed over into the highlands 
of Macedonia till they came to the town Lebaea."
Also in the very first book of his "Histories" (paragraph 56.3 ) Herodotus 
states about the origin of the the Greek people:

"For in the days of king Deucalion it inhabited the land of Phthia, then the 
country called Histiaean, under Ossa and Olympus, in the time of Dorus son 
of Hellen; driven from this Histiaean country by the Cadmeans, it settled 
about Pindus in the territory called Macedonian; from there again it 
migrated to Dryopia, and at last came from Dryopia into the Peloponnese, 
where it took the name of Dorian."
Thoukididis also verifies that the Macedonian kings' origin was from the 
Greek town of Argos (Book 2, 99.3):

"The country on the sea coast, now called Macedonia, was first acquired by 
Alexander, the father of Perdiccas, and his ancestors, originally Temenids 
from Argos."
Aristotelis, the teacher of Alexander the Great says about the rivers in 
Macedonia (Meteorologika, Book I, Par. 13):

"Of the rivers in the Greek world, the Achelous flows from Pindus, the 
Inachus from the same mountain; the Strymon, the Nestus, and the Hebrus all 
three from Scombrus; many rivers, too, flow from Rhodope."
Finally Isocratis states (To Philip, paragraph 32):

"Argos is the land of your fathers, and is entitled to as much consideration 
at your hands as are your own ancestors;"

On the language of the Macedonians

The Macedonians spoke the Greek language as the ancient authors verify. The 
Roman writer Titus Livius says : (from "The Foundation of the City", 
Paragraph 31)

"The Aitolians, the Akarnanians, the Macedonians, men of the same language, 
are united or disunited by trivial causes that arise from time to time; with 
aliens, with barbarians, all Greeks wage and will wage eternal war; for they 
are enemies by the will of nature, which is eternal, and not from reasons 
that change from day to day."
Didorus of Sicily (17.67.1) says:

"After this Alexander left Dareius's mother, his daughters, and his son in 
Susa, providing them with persons to teach them the Greek language, and 
marching on with his army on the fourth day reached the Tigris River. "

On the religion of the Macedonians

The Macedonians had the same religion as the rest of the Greeks, they 
worshiped the twelve Olympian Gods.

Two quotes from Plutarch's "Alexander"

"Philip, after this vision, sent Chaeron of Megalopolis to consult the 
oracle of Apollo at Delphi, by which he was commanded to perform sacrifice, 
and henceforth pay particular honour, above all other gods, to Zeus;"

"He [Alexander he Great] erected altars, also, to the gods, which the kings 
of the Praesians even in our time do honour to when they pass the river, and 
offer sacrifice upon them after the Greek manner."
Diodoros of Sicily also makes clear that the Macedonnians worshiped the 
twelve Greek Gods:

Histories, Chapter 16, 95.2

"Along with lavish display of every sort, Philip included in the procession 
statues of the twelve Gods brought with great artistry and adorned with a 
dazzling show of wealth to strike awe to the beholder, and along with these 
was conducted a thirteenth statue, suitable for a god, that of Philip 
himself, so that the king exhibited himself enthroned among the twelve 
Gods."
Histories, Chapter 16, 91.5-6

"He (King Philip) wanted as many Greeks as possible to take part in the 
festivities in honour of the gods, and so planned brilliant musical contests 
and lavish banquets for his friends and guests. Out of all Greece he 
summoned his personal guest-friends and ordered the members of his court to 
bring along as many as they could of their acquaintances from abroad."

On the culture of the Macedonians

"Alexandros observed that his soldiers were exhausted with their constant 
campaigns. ... The hooves of the horses had been worn thin by steady 
marching. The arms and armour were wearing out, and the Hellenic clothing 
was quite gone. They had to clothe themselves in materials of the 
barbarians,..."
(Diodoros of Sicily 17.94.1-2)

On the geography of Macedonian

The great philosopher Aristotelis (Aristotle) considers the rivers in 
Macedonias as "rivers in the Greek world"

"Of the rivers in the Greek world, the Achelous flows from Pindus, the 
Inachus from the same mountain; the Strymon, the Nestus, and the Hebrus all 
three from Scombrus; many rivers, too, flow from Rhodope. ..."
(Aristotelis, Meteorology, Book 1, Par. 13)
and later on he says:

"The deluge in the time of Deucalion, for instance, took place chiefly in 
the Greek world and in it especially about ancient Hellas, the country about 
Dodona and the Achelous, a river which has often changed its course. Here 
the Selli dwelt and those who were formerly called Graeci and now 
Hellenes..."
(Aristotelis, Meteorology, Book 1, Par. 13)

What did the Macedonians think of themselves?

It is very clear from the surviving ancient sources that the Macedonians 
considered themselves to be Greeks.

In Herodotus (Book 9, paragraph 45.2) Alexander I , king of Macedonia says:

"... I myself am by ancient descent a Greek, and I would not willingly see 
Hellas change her freedom for slavery ..."
Alexander III (the Great) talking to the king of the Persians says: (Arrian, 
Anabasis of Alexander II,14,4)

"Your ancestors invaded Macedonia and the rest of Greece and did us great 
harm, though we had done them no prior injury [...] I have been appointed 
hegemon of the Greeks [...] "
Arrian ("Alexander the Great" 1,16,7) describes the following incident: 
After winning an important battle in Asia ...
"He [Alexander the Great] sent to Athens three hundred Persian panoplies to 
be set up to Athena in the acropolis; he ordered this inscription to be 
attached: Alexander son of Philip and the Hellenes, except the 
Lacedaemonians, set up these spoils from the barbarians dwelling in Asia"
(Diodoros of Sicily 16.93.1)
"Every seat in the theater was taken when Philip appeared wearing a white 
cloak and by his express orders his bodyguard held away from him and 
followed only at a distance, since he wanted to show publicly that he was 
protected by the goodwill of all the Hellenes, and had no need of a guard of 
spearmen."

And from Flavious Josephus (11.8.5) we have the following incident where 
Alexander clearly considers himself a Greek:

"And when the book of Daniel was showed to him (Alexander the Great) wherein 
Daniel declared that one of the Greeks should destroy the empire of the 
Persians, he supposed that himself was the person intended"

What did the rest of the Greeks think?

The ancient Greek people alwayws considered the Macedonians to be Greek as 
well. This can be easily proved because the Macedonians were members of all 
the Greek institutions, such as the Delphic amphictiony:

Pausanias writes in his book "Description of Greece" (10.3.3):

"The Phocians were deprived of their share in the Delphic sanctuary and in 
the Greek assembly, and their votes were given by the Amphictyons to the 
Macedonians."
and also in his book "Phokis" (8,2 & 4):
"They say that these were the tribes collected by Amphiktyon himself in the 
Hellenic Assembly: [...] the Macedonians joined and the entire Phocian race 
[...] In my day there were thirty members: six from each of Nikopolis, 
Macedonia and Thessaly [...] "
Aeschines (On the Embassy 2.32) gives evidence of the Macedonian king 
Amyntas taking part at the congress of the Lacedaemonian allies and the 
other Greeks:

"For at a congress of the Lacedaemonian allies and the other Greeks, in 
which Amyntas, the father of Philip, being entitled to a seat, was 
represented by a delegate whose vote was absolutely under his control, he 
joined the other Greeks in voting to help Athens to recover possession of 
Amphipolis. As proof of this I presented from the public records the 
resolution of the Greek congress and the names of those who voted".
Isocratis, one of the most impotant orators of ancient Greece says in his 
speach "To Philip" addressed to King Philip II of Macedonia (Paragaraph 
127):

"Therefore, since the others are so lacking in spirit, I think it is 
opportune for you to head the war against the King; and, while it is only 
natural for the other descendants of Heracles, and for men who are under the 
bonds of their polities and laws, to cleave fondly to that state in which 
they happen to dwell, it is your privilege, as one who has been blessed with 
untrammeled freedom, to consider all Greece your fatherland, as did the 
founder of your race, and to be as ready to brave perils for her sake as for 
the things about which you are personally most concerned."
The Sicilian historian Diodoros says in his history about King Philip of 
Macedonia (Diodoros, Historical Library 16.95.1-2)
"Such was the end of Philip, who had made himself the greatest of the kings 
in Europe in his time, and because of the extent of his kingdom had made 
himself a throned companion of the twelve gods. He had ruled twenty-four 
years. He is known to fame as one who with but the slenderest resources to 
support his claim to a throne won for himself the greatest empire in the 
Greek world, while the growth of his position was not due so much to his 
prowess in arms as to his adroitness and cordiality in diplomacy.
Even the Persians considerd Macedonia a part of Greece! The Persian king 
Mardonius says : (From the Histories of Herodotus Book 7, Paragraph 9.1-2).

"We know the manner of their battle- we know how weak their power is; 
already have we subdued their children who dwell in our country, the 
Ionians, Aeolians, and Dorians. I myself have had experience of these men 
when I marched against them by the orders of thy father; and though I went 
as far as Macedonia, and came but a little short of reaching Athens itself, 
yet not a soul ventured to come out against me to battle. [...] Yet the 
Greeks are accustomed to wage wars, as I learn, and they do it most 
senselessly in their wrongheadedness and folly [...]. Since they speak the 
same language, they should end their disputes by means of heralds or 
messengers, or by any way rather than fighting; if they must make war upon 
each other, they should each discover where they are in the strongest 
position and make the attempt there. The Greek custom, then, is not good; 
and when I marched as far as the land of Macedonia, it had not come into 
their minds to fight."
Mardonius marched against the Greeks and he "went as far as Macedonia, and 
came but a little short of reaching Athens itself". Obviously he considers 
Macedonia a part of Greece!

Related links

How the Slavic propaganda exploits the ancient sources to dispute the Greek 
identity of the ancient Macedonians.
http://truth.macedonia.gr/distortion.html
What do today's scholars say about the identity of the ancient Macedonians?
http://truth.macedonia.gr/scholars.html

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integration in the European Union
Symbols

The Republic of Macedonia was established as an outcome of the century-long 
struggle of the Macedonian people for national liberation and for a state of 
its own.
The beginnings of the statehood of the Macedonian Slavs go back to the end 
of the 10th century and beginning of the 11th, with the creation of Samoil's 
state.
After the fall of Samoil's kingdom, during the centuries-long slavery, the 
wish for a state of its own never extinguished. This is proved by many 
uprisings against foreign rulers. In the more recent history, during the 
Ottoman Empire in the Balkans and in Macedonia occurred the most well-known 
national liberation uprisings, the Karpos uprising in 1689, the Kresna and 
Razlovci uprisings in 1878.
The foundations of the modern Macedonian state were established during the 
Ilinden uprising in 1903, with the proclamation of the Krusevo Republic (in 
the town of Krusevo), as the first Republic on the Balkans. Nikola Karev was 
declared first president of the first Macedonian Republic.
Less than a decade after the Ilinden uprising was violently quelled, 
Macedonian and the Macedonian people undergo some of the most tragic times 
of their history. After the Balkan wars in 1912 and 1913 Macedonia was 
divided among the neighboring Balkan countries whereas the Macedonian people 
are subjected to denationalization, assimilation and genocide. The 
contemporary Republic of Macedonia is situated on the territory that became 
part of Serbia after the Balkan wars. (later within Yugoslavia).
In the course of the Second World War, in August 2, (on the Ilinden Day) in 
1944, the First Session of then Anti Fascist Assembly of the National 
Liberation (ASNOM) was held in the Monastery of St. Prohor of Pcinja. At 
this session, the foundations of the modern Republic of Macedonia were 
established, as a member of the Democratic Yugoslav Federation.

The first Macedonian Constitution adopted on December 31, 1946, declares the 
People's Republic of Macedonia as a state - a constitutive member of the 
Yugoslav Federation. In accordance with the Constitution of April 7, 1963, 
it was named as Socialist Republic of Macedonia and remained such until June 
7,1991 when the Assembly passed a constitutional amendment deleting the 
designation "Socialist" from the state's name, establishing its present name 
- Republic of Macedonia.

PLURAL ELECTIONS

In accordance with the new Law on Elections and the new Law on Political 
Organization of Citizens, first democratic plural elections were held on 
November 11, 1990.

DECLARATION ON SOVEREIGNTY

In January 25, 1991, the new multi party Assembly adopted the Declaration on 
Sovereignty of the Republic, which, among other things, defines the Republic 
of Macedonia as a sovereign state, which decides independently about its 
future relations with the states of the other peoples of Yugoslavia, in 
accordance with its own interests,

REFERENDUM

After the dissolution of the Socialist Federative Republic of Yugoslavia, to 
which pertained the Republic of Macedonia, the Assembly of the Republic of 
Macedonia proclaims a referendum on which the citizens had to decide for a 
secession from the Yugoslav federation and for the proclamation of an 
independent Republic of Macedonia.

At the referendum held on September 8, 1991, more than 90% of the citizens 
that voted were in favor of a sovereign and independent Republic of 
Macedonia.

Based upon the results of the referendum, the Assembly of the Republic of 
Macedonia, in September 17, 1991, adopted a Declaration on Independence. The 
Declaration states that the Republic of Macedonia as a sovereign and 
independent state will strive for consistent observance of the generally 
accepted principles of the international relations contained in the Charter 
and other documents of the United Nations Organization, the CSCE Final Act 
from Helsinki and the CSCE Paris Charter, and that this will be the basis of 
its international relations.

THE CONSTITUTION

In November 17, 1991, the Assembly of the Republic of Macedonia adopted and 
proclaimed the new Constitution of the Republic of Macedonia, which 
confirmed the state's name, and the Republic of Macedonia was defined as a 
sovereign, independent, democratic and welfare state. The sovereignty 
derives from the citizens and belongs to them. The Republic of Macedonia is 
organized in accordance with the principles of modern democratic and 
parliamentary states. The Constitution of the Republic of Macedonia follows 
the principles of a democratic political system and there is a multiparty 
parliamentary system.

DECLARARTION ON INTERNATIONAL RECOGNITION

In December 19, 1991, the Assembly of the Republic of Macedonia adopted a 
Declaration on the International Recognition of the Republic of Macedonia as 
a Sovereign and Independent State.

ADHESION OF THE REPUBLIC OF MACEDONIA TO THE UN

The Assembly of the Republic of Macedonia in July 29, 1992, passed a 
decision on the membership of the Republic of Macedonia in the United 
Nations Organization as a sovereign and independent state. Shortly after 
that, the President of the Republic of Macedonia submitted a formal 
application for admission of the Republic of Macedonia as a member of the 
UN. The Republic of Macedonia was accepted as member of the UN in April 8, 
1993. The Republic of Macedonia has accepted the Declaration and other UN 
documents, the principals of the modern international relations and the 
existing standards within the international law.

INTEGRATION IN THE EUROPEAN UNION

One of the strategic orientations of the Republic of Macedonia as a state 
and of its citizens is the integration in the family of European nations, 
where we belong both geographically and from a civilizing point of view.
As a result of the democratic processes in the state and of its contribution 
to the stability and peace in the region, the Republic of Macedonia has done 
its first step to a full integration in the European Union and in Euro 
Atlantic structures, by signing the Stabilization and Association Agreement 
with the EU on April 6, 2001.



Read about Athenian Fascists and terrorists who threatens to kill Mr Ljupco 
Mircevski-Trepet, the leader of the Macedonian Organization VMRO-MNM 
(Macedonia for the Macedonians).


FROM: "Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet" redacted@vmro-mnm.com
DATE: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 14:53:44 0100
TO: VMRO-MNM redacted@vmro-mnm.com, VMRO-MNM 
redacted@vmro-mnm.com, VMRO-MNM redacted@vmro-mnm.com, 
Macedonian Revolutionary redacted@hotmail.com
SUBJECT: Zakani od atinjanski nacisti, fasisti i teroristi!!!!

FROM: "x x" redacted@vip.gr
DATE: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 13:12:29 0200
TO: "Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet" redacted@vmro-mnm.com
SUBJECT: You gipsy mother-f u c k e r!

I know you, you gipsy mother - fucker! You are nothing than a fucking gipsy! 
I know where you go, where you eat, where you you shit. I know that fucking 
gipsies have to die! And you 'll die very soon from a Greek-macedonian hand. 
Enjoy your last fucking days in the earth!

Alexandros and .. friends
.
____________________________________________________

ÁðïêôÞóôå Ýíá áðüññçôï, ÄÙÑÅÁÍ email ìå ðñïóùðéêüôçôá áðï ôçí NET FORCE!
http://www.vip.gr http://www.netforce.gr
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The "Albanians" demand human rights, rights that they already have.
What they actually want is weapon and war and build their Great "Albania".

This is some of the e-mails the Organization VMRO-MNM has received from 
Caucasian Albanians.
They are written in English, Serbian and Macedonian.


E-MAIL FROM ALBANIAN NAZIS, FASCISTS AND TERRORISTS!

From: ELVIS NUSHI redacted@altavista.com
To: redacted@hotmail.com
Subject: IS MACEDONIA WHAT YOU SAY IT IS?
Dare: 5 Dec 2000 21:30:49 -0800

Dear Macedonian friend,

i am sending u this message because i would like to remind you certain 
things
about Macedonia and Macedonians as well as the rest of the people that you 
are trying to INSULT in your site.
Macedonians are a Slavic people since they speak a Slavic language and have 
a Slavic heritage.
Slavs are the last people to come in the Balkan peninsula -much later than 
the Indo-European tribes arrived there, referring to the Greeks and 
Albanians,-the country is officially called Greece and the people Greek not 
Athens and Athenians -something which is common knowledge-the Slavic 
alphabet has been adopted by the greek since the greek language was written 
much earlier than the Slavic -the area that is occupied by the former 
Yugoslavia first belonged to the Illyrians -ancestors of Albanians- so 
please watch what you are saying P.S. do some research before you expose 
something on the World Wide Web.


From: "Studio SKENDERBEU"
To: redacted@vmro-mnm.com
Subject: SKENDERBEU
Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2000 01:27:57 -0500

Gentlemen,

Why you are sending this e-mail to us???????
We know the TRUTH about Macedonia! Go and talk to someone who doesn't know 
it!!!
After all what does "Macedonia to Macedonians" means?

What about other nations? What about the cities that never belonged and
never will belong to Macedonia?

I know the truth hurts but start to think rationally not with emotions. We
understand you perfectly but you have to understand us too. That's the only
way to "preserve" your Macedonia. Otherwise if "Macedonia to Macedonians" is 
your slogan believe me you will lose it very soon.

Serbs used to say "Kosovo is Serbia" but it's not anymore.



From: Blend Bardhi  redacted@yahoo.com
To: VMRO-MNM  redacted@bredband.net
Sent: Saturday, December 09, 2000 2:04 AM
Subject:

what about albanians that live in
skopje?skopje,tetova,gostivar,ohrid,struga etc. those
are 90%albanian!!!!!!what are you talking about??????



From: "Ferik Ferizaj" redacted@hotmail.com
To: VMRO-MNM  redacted@vmro-mnm.com
Subject: Macedonia is Ours
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 00:52:32 -0600

Albanians will take over Macedonia within 10 years(remember this)!!!.And 
Albanians are not terrorists but you and all Serbians are.The world knows 
who terrorists are.
There is no Macedonian Nation-those who call themselves Macedonian are 
either Serbian or Bulgarian-everybody knows it.
I'm not from Macedonia but I Will fight for our land(Macedonia is our Land) 
and we will take over Macedonia.
In fact Albanian Army in Macedonia is fighting already(as you may well 
know).
So remember Mr.whoever you are Macedonian is Albanian Land.

Write me at
redacted@hotmail.com



From: "glaus tirana" <redacted@hotmail.com>
To: redacted@alb-net.com
Cc: redacted@vmro-mnm.com
Subject: MACEDONIA FOR THE MACEDONIANS !
Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 14:09:30 -0000

The only real Macedonians in Macedonia are Albanians. So called 
"Macedonians" are slav emigrants. (What isn't that true ?)

So, if somebody says "MACEDONIA FOR THE MACEDONIANS" he has meant "Macedonia 
for the Albanians", or if somebody says "United Macedonians" he has meant 
"United Albanians".

If slav emigrants in Macedonia want to be united, their homeland is free, 
somewhere in steppes of Russia. Go get united over there, you don't need to 
learn a new language, you still speak a kind of russia language. (Can you 
deny that too ?)

PS:
1. Please take out the picture of Aleksander the Great from your web-site.
( http://www.vmro-mnm.com ). Don't ignore his portrait with your gypsy 
Makedonians face(specially with Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet turk prophile 
photo). As you can see clearly from all the pictures have you post in your 
website, current Makedonians has nothing to do with real Macedonians 
(Albanians).
2. Somewhere you say " Our Nation is the woldest nation in the world". Don't 
talk in the behalf of the Albanians. We know are old we are, and actually is 
good when you slav emigrants in makedonia are proud with albanians' history, 
but please, don't steal it, it's not yours, it's ours for sure.

Who lets these people put this kind of information in our lists. Isn't
this list suppose to serve for the albanian readers, instead of Macedonian 
propaganda. I urge the moderators to pay attention to this and all the 
e-mails of this type. Respectfully Erion

I agree with this. Why is this Macedonian propaganda let on the list?
thanks, Mentor

I happened to be the moderator "in duty" at that time and I am the one who 
let it pass. Give me a good reason why should I have rejected that message?
Out of fear that somebody here would be such a beefhead to actually buy that 
naive, misspelled and moronic propaganda and sympathize or side with the 
Macedonians? Wouldn't I be insulting your intelligence?

Let's just keep an ear in the streets guys...

Era

P.S. Looking at their website though, it was a blast! The president of VMRO 
(or whatever that organization is called) is a cuttie! My goodness, that 
moustache!!! If any of you guys out there can grow a moustache like that, I 
would suggest that you contact us ASAP so we can discuss about the 
particulars of the presidential campaign for AlbClub. After all, we 
desperately need a deserving and "presidential" face to show around the 
internet, and unfortunately none of us can't even come close to Mr. Ljupco 
Mircevski-Trepet's sex appeal. Sh*t!!! It is so depressing! Some people just 
have it all!



From: "Ferik Feriz....." redacted@hotmail.com
To: VMRO-MNM redacted@vmro-mnm.com
Subject: Re: MACEDONIA FOR THE MACEDONIAN!
Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2001 23:35:36 -0500

Your have a terrorist organization.Why are you such a liar.
The whole world are wrong , and you are right.Is that right?I don't think so 
and you know that(whoever you are).Another thing that i want to tell 
you:There is no Macedonian Nation.Macedonia is an artificial state. Without 
albanians there would be no Macedonia at all. So be aware of this. Don't 
push us too hard because we can do other things which you may well know!

OK
Get e life for yourself.



From: Endrit Yzeiri  redacted@yahoo.com
To:  redacted@bredband.net
Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2001 10:31 AM
Subject: Re: MACEDONIA FOR THE MACEDONIANS!

Hi everyone. My name is Endrit and I live in Albania. I don't know how you 
got my e-mail address but it's ok. Whoever gave it to you must know that I 
am always open to debate and your message didn't put any fear in my soul. 
Actualy it was nice to read the other side of the story (I visited your web 
site also). I always find this fascinating. YOu probably know that I don't 
agree with most of the thing you have presented in your e-mail and web site. 
I think that you guys have to understand that the era of extreme nationalism 
is over. The world is becoming more and more global now a days. Acusing the 
US, UN, NATO is stupidity after what they have done for you the last ten 
years (economicaly and politicaly) Sentences like "I am" or "we are the 
ones" have to be forgoten by you. Instead try to talk with the albanians and 
the other nationalities and you'll see that life is much easier.
Thank you for your patience
ENDRIT (ENI) YZEIRI



From: "nuro ramadani" mailto: redacted@hotmail.com
To: redacted@vmro-mnm.com
Subject: ZDRAVO MAKEDONIJO
Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 22:16:16 -0000

JASAM ALBANEC IZ TETOVE SAMO BI SAKAL DA VI OBJASNIM NESTO NA VIJ DOBRI DUSI 
MAKEDONCI .DEKA SE STO KE PROBATE DA NAPRAVITE ZA VASATA DERZAVA NEMA DA VI 
USPEA ZATO STO NEMATE KAPACITET I SILA ZA TO STO SAKATE DA GO NAPRAVITE I 
NEMA DA VI USPE VEKE E KASNO ZA TOA DA NAS ZIVI VELIKA ALBANIA



From: "Shaban Ramadani" redacted@web.de
To: redacted@vmro-mnm.com
Subject: Protest!
Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 11:32:39 +0200

Kako sto mi e poznato nikade ne sum pisuval deka sakam informacii od vasata 
strana ili me interesira vasata organizacija.
Ako uste eden E- Mail od vasa strana qe dobien qe bidam prinuden drugi 
pravni merki protiv vas da zemam Mislam deka ovoj pat na propaganda nema 
mnogu da vi pomogne da obstoite kako "demokratska" partija vo makedonija!

redacted@web.de



From: "ibrahim arifi" redacted@oriccom.ca
To: redacted@vmro-mnm.com
Subject:
Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 13:27:57 -0400

SHTA LLAZITE MAJKU VAM JEBEM VI STE ISTO KAO SERRBI MAJKU VAM JEBEM CE DA 
VIDITE STACU DESI SA VAMA



From: Blerim Matoshi  redacted@webtv.net
To: redacted@bredband.net
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2001 4:36 AM

Mi albanci dobicemo rat.To znate i vi makedonci.pola makedonija jenasa. Samo 
za 2 meseca imate mnogo mrtvih jel da ha ha ha ha



From: Roaming Panther redacted@yahoo.com
To: VMRO-MNM redacted@bredband.net
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2001 9:19 AM
Subject: SURE THING, JUST ...

Fuck you, you are dying slow motherfuckers, all u fuckin Macedonians, your 
fucked up nation is dying whereas, ALBANIANS ! ! ! are prevailing.
Our UÇK is fucking you up, as well as it should, We will kill all of you   
mutherfuckers, the ALBANIANS AND THE UÇK IS ALL ONE, 
KOSOVA-MACEDONIA-ALBANIA = GREAT ALBANIA

One nation one future, we will shit on your Macedonian blood after we are 
done with you just like we were done with the serbian skllaves.
Many other of your young boys shall be brutally murdered, slaughtered, 
massacred.

US-NATO-ALBANIANS= ARE ALL ONE.

Armend Vërbovci

W. Addr: EU-CFA Sheshi Nëna Terezë, ish Dardania Banka
H. Addr: Bregu i diellit Rr.3 Ll.2 Nr.24
Tel: h:038/550-668, w:038/540-564, ext.248



From: Murat Salihu redacted@triangleev.com
To: VMRO-MNM redacted@bredband.net
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2001 2:36 PM
Subject: you mather fuker you ar your self erorist e nacis

i just want to say to you all it's you who ar nacis and idiots, i know wery 
wall that situation in Balkans and don't tell me that abanias ar terorist, 
bat tek your self in ther cloths. If you tell me that, it's you who is 
sllatring abanies childrens with bombs and graneds from long distaces 
bicouse you don't have the gac do go ine front, becouse you dont have the 
bot for for you wimp. and ffuch you you bulgarien nacion becouse you ar not 
Macedonien, Macedonien nation is long time gone.
comme to me and i would show you how needs to be don.



From: Murat Salihu redacted@triangleev.com
To: VMRO-MNM redacted@bredband.net
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2001 2:51 PM
Subject: ZABORAVIO SAM NESHTE TA TI KASHEM MALI JEBENI BUGARCINE

TWOJO MEJESTO JE SAME PREKO VARDARA E TO TEBE SAM 1/4 OF TOG TERITORIJA, 
POSHTO TI SNASH SAME DA TI NISI MACEDONIAN, TI SI SAME JEDNO GOVNE 
BULGARIJEN. AKO TI MISLISH DA QESH POBJEDISH SJET ZNA SADA KOJE UBICA I KOJE 
KO LAZHE E TI SI JEDNO OD DWE, JEGI TI SVOJU MAJKU MALI BUGARQINE, AKO SI TI 
PRESIDENTE TWOJE JEBENO STRANKE IDI TI SAM U FRONT DA TI NACIRTA NEKO TWOJ + 
NA GLAVO, ALI NEMASH MUDE. NEMASH PUNE DANE SHNASH TI TI JELLI.



From: Fatime Kurtisoska  redacted@student.uni-kassel.de
To: VMRO-MNM  redacted@bredband.net
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2001 3:58 PM
Subject:

Bi sakalla neschto da kzhem na vashiot text.
Ja sum sama albanka zhiveam veqe 4 godini vo zapad i billa sum vo mnogu 
drzhavi vo evropa i vo SAD , i nikade ne sum se custvuvalla podobro kako vo 
makedonija. imate pravo deka zapadot ne koristuva deka allbanija, gercka , 
bugarija, serbija ili nekoi egoisti nashi mak.ili all. koi se borat samo za 
moq vo vlladata ja koristaat situazijata.
Ali allbancite vo mak. ne se terroristi i se shto i treba na mak. za da ja 
zapre manipulaziata od drugite e da go obrazuva svojot narod bes razlika koi 
sto e, site se llugje i imat pravo da da odllucat sami za svojot zhivot , 
nas ne ni treba vojna tuku doverba i razbiranje i obrazuvanje.
falla
CIAO
KURTISHOKA FATIMA



From: Donika Dabisevci redacted@hotmail.com
To: VMRO-MNM redacted@bredband.net
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2001 4:22 PM
Subject:

k.
FUCKE VMRO
Ke vam ebem majkata. E li znajete gde?
Sakas li na k....da mi skakash?
Golemata Albania e Bulgaria ke bidet, utrom sabajle



From: Jeton Bajrami redacted@swipnet.se
To: VMRO-MNM redacted@bredband.net
Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 8:07 PM
Subject:

Fuck you all aw you mother fackers its you who killd the olld men with his 
son in Tetovo in front of the world without any kind of hart you blodmaker, 
you monster peopel from Karpate some vere in Russia who come to learn how 
the peopel live in the civilization and you never beckame som normal peopel. 
You have been the Antropoid and still you are Antropoid.
I now that is hard for you to live in normal civilization but if you whant 
to liv in the montains as you did in the Karpate in Russia then Return back 
in the Karpate please.



From: Arbon Vata  redacted@hotmail.com
To: VMRO-MNM  redacted@bredband.net
Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 8:13 PM
Subject:

Macedonia is a region in Greece and so will it be

You well loose the war because we are a stronger nation
Albania is Tetovo,Skopje Gostivar,Bitola....

ha ha ha



From: Dritan Egriu redacted@home.se
To: VMRO-MNM redacted@bredband.net
Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 10:29 PM
Subject:

Hey mr president asshole, I don't want any more bullshits from your side. I 
know that the macedonians are the same shit as the serbs are.
So remove me from your list dirtbag!
Piss you and all the macedonians!

Viva la revolucion!! Viva NATO!!



From: Mustafë Hysa  redacted@hotmail.com
To: VMRO-MNM  redacted@bredband.net
Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 11:57 PM

Makedonsku mamu vam jebem.....
facking propaganda you are going to loose any way.



From: Bekim Pejani  redacted@hotmail.com
To: VMRO-MNM  redacted@bredband.net
Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 7:46 AM
Subject:

FUCK YOU BITCHES jEBEM TI CETNICKU MAJKU U PICKU



From: Naser Asllani redacted@vimmerby.se
To: VMRO-MNM redacted@bredband.net
Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 9:24 AM
Subject:

Lazete sve ubice, sram vas bilo cetnici



From: Fehmi Duraku redacted@hotmail.com
To: VMRO-MNM redacted@bredband.net
Cc: redacted@yahoo.com
Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 10:29 AM
Subject:

Shqipetaret ne Maqedoni nuk luftojne per ndonje "Great Albania"por po 
luftojne per te drejtat e veta.
Maqedonia nuk eshte e maqedonasve por eshte e te gjitheve qe jetojne atje.
Kjo leter qe derguar ne e-mail eshte nje propagand qe veshterson me shume 
zgjidhjen e problemit te shqipetareve ne pergjithesi.

redacted@hotmail.com



From: Pellumb Ballata redacted@hotmail.com
To: VMRO-MNM redacted@bredband.net
Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 10:55 AM
Subject:

It is the same propaganda used by the serbian system that brought to more 
than 10 years of war and suffering that you are making. You can't call more 
than one third of the population "minority", and unless you stop thinking 
that you can solve problems by using force - like serbian system thought - 
and start democrising Macedonia, you will have real longterm problems like 
Serbia or Israel, with the small difference that macedonia is a lot smaller 
and has not the military strength of them!
So stop spreading lies and do something about that instead (like amendement 
of constitution!)!



From:  redacted@t-online.de
To: VMRO-MNM  redacted@bredband.net
Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 4:32 PM
Subject:

Dear Ljupce,

I am happy to see such Macedonians like you! It was very fun to read your 
message. This way one can realize that non-slavic Macedonians :) have a 
great chance to win.

Goooou :)

Antoni Berishaj
Stuttgart



From: Kosova`s Ofiice in Skandinavia redacted@kosova.pp.se
To: VMRO-MNM redacted@bredband.net
Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2001 3:18 PM
Subject:

Dear Sirs,

We woud very much appreciate if you could answer to two simple questions:
1. Is there a Macedonian-Bulgarian dictionary?
2. What happens with artificially created things (like your language and 
your state) in a long term?



From: Sevime G redacted@hotmail.com
To: redacted@bredband.net
Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2001 11:41 PM
Subject: Bullshit!!!!!

What the hell are you talking about???You should go and learn your history 
better cause you don't know what you are talking about.
You know, you are just saying those things to please you're self cause you 
know it's bullshit.The Albanians don't have any right's but that is going to 
change and you are just afraid that we will have our rights , that we 
desorve, and that you can't do anything about it.We kicked the serbs out of 
Kosova and we will have our rights in Macedonia and you all know that this 
is not a war for a Great-Albania but a war of rights and you can't fool no 
one with that bullshit anymore cause now the world has opened their eyes and 
you are afraid that we are winning.You have had your time no it's our turn.

And do not send me this kind of bullshit anymore.

An albanian girl



From: "Will Trent"  redacted@madmail.com
Date: 19 May 2001 02:35:56 -0000
To: redacted@vmro-mnm.com
Subject: Za trepetce!

Edna prijatelka od Albanija mi isprati email koj bese od tebe so povik za 
spasuvanje na Makedonija adresirano do svetot...taa pocna da se smee so 
panicniot ton so koj vie go bevte napisale toa communique ako mozam taka da 
ja vikam,no posle edno vreme koga prestana da se seguva na smetka na napisot 
se zaloziv da i objasnam zasto site "Makedonci" se cuvstvuvaat "zagrozeni" a 
cel svet se smee na niv...kako prvo,faktot deka Makedonija kako teritorija i 
denesnite "Makedonci" se nesto sosema drugo,i za toa zboruvaat istoriskite 
fakti koi "Makedoncite" uporno ki negiraat(sto e normalno,zasto sekoj narod 
saka da se fali so negovite koreni,makar i da ne se negovi)...vprocem 
Slavjanite dosle vo Balkanot vo 9ti vek a Starite Makedonci vo ova vreme 
veke ne bile ni zivi...i svetot go znae toa,a bogami toa go dokaza i majka 
Rusija pred nekolku godini koga objavija deka denesnite "Makedonci' i 
starite se nesto sosema drugo,i samo podnebjeto vo koe ziveaat gi 
karakterizira kako Makedonci...pa na kraj Tito bese toj kKako 
vtoro,Albancite vo Makedonija se eden od autoktonite narodi vo Makedonija,i 
koga bi se sprovel censusot tie bi ilzlegle mnozistvo,sto i ke se pokaze na 
slednoto prebrojuvanje na naselenieto koga ke ilzeguvaat na videlina site 
Bugarski i Srpski "Makedonci" koi ne mozeaa da se zapisuvaat na nivno 
etnicko poteklo od vladata na Crvenkovski...pa zatoa koga ke zboruvate za 
Albanci treba da simnete kapa i da ne vikate Gospoda, zasto za vas toa sme 
mie...
I kako treto,na mojata prijatelka od Albanija i pokazav deka toa sto se 
slucuva deneska vo MAkedonija a sto gi voznemiruva "makedoncite" e faktot 
sto trebase vojnata sto ONA ja pocna da gi rasoni "makedonskite" romanticari 
i da gi napravi da gledaat vo vistinata ,a ne vo toa sto tie sakale da 
veruvaat...prijatele,vistinata e bolna,a uste pojke ako ne e na tvoja 
strana...
Za kraj samo da ti kazam deka napisot stvarno ti bese mnogu mnogu primitiven 
i nacisticki napisan i se nadevam go dobile site vazni faktori vo svetot 
kako uste eden primer na "makedonskata' intolerancija sprema drugite...
Prijatno
P.S. Te pokanuvam ako si stvarno patriot da dojdes u "Makedonija' i da ja 
"branis' tatkovinata" od nas Albancite...te ocekuvame...



From:  redacted@aol.com
To:  redacted@bredband.net
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 10:38 PM
Subject: RRESPEKTOJENI EDHE TJETRIN QË TË JU RRESPEKTOJ EDHE DIKUSH JUVE

Me qnëse jame shqiptarë dhe nuk di gjuhen e juaj Maqedonisht,por as anglisht 
ju kisha përgjigjur me pak fjalë.
Më vjenë shumë keqë që mendoni se vetëm Maqedonasit ekzistojnë në Maqedoni, 
ndërsa përtë tjerët as që bëhet fjalë.
Shqiptarët eksistojnë edhe më përpara se ju në Ballkan.
Maqedonasit janë ata terrorist të cileët terrorin e ushtrojnë me anë të 
aparatit shteterprë.
Bombardojnë fshatrat shqiptare sikur të kishte shtazë të egra në të.
Maqedonët do të pendohën një ditë porë do të bëhet vonë.
Kurgja nuk ka dallim nga masakrat që bënin serbet në Bosnje dhe në Kosovë,të 
tillat i bëjnë edhe Maqedonasit në ILIRIDË të Maqedonisë.
Pa dhunë ju lutëm!
Tolerancë ndërnacionale ju lutëm!
Respektone edhe tjetrin nëse dëshironi që të ju rrespektoj edhe dikush.
Jemi për një Maqedoni që të jetoni të gjithë së bashku.
Shpëtojeni vetëvehten sepse jeni buzë një katastrove or Maqedon.
Mos e ngritni mendjën lartë se edhe shqiptarët janë njërzë.
Faleminderit për email por herën tjetër nëse keni mundësi të shkruani shqip 
apo Gjermanisht dhe ti përfshini edhe shqiptarët në këtë faqe të juajen,e 
kamë fjalën për të mirë e jo për terrorist si që thuani ju sepse 
fëmijtë,gratë,pleqtë,baballarët e fëmijeve,vëllëzrit baballarve etj nuk janë 
terrorist dhe unë mendoj që kështu ju vetëm i ngritni hasmëritë edhe më 
lartë edhe ashtu të ngritura.
Me përshëndetje nga një shqiptarë që ju rrespekton,por kërkoj që edhe mua të 
më rrespektoj dikush.



From: Sevime G redacted@hotmail.com
To: redacted@bredband.net
Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2001 11:41 PM
Subject: Bullshit!!!!!

What the hell are you talking about???You should go and learn your history 
better cause you don't know what you are talking about.
You know, you are just saying those things to please you're self cause you 
know it's bullshit.The Albanians don't have any right's but that is going to 
change and you are just afraid that we will have our rights , that we 
desorve, and that you can't do anything about it.We kicked the serbs out of 
Kosova and we will have our rights in Macedonia and you all know that this 
is not a war for a Great-Albania but a war of rights and you can't fool no 
one with that bullshit anymore cause now the world has opened their eyes and 
you are afraid that we are winning.You have had your time no it's our turn.

this kind of bullshit anymore.

An albanian girl



From: Valon Halimi redacted@skynet.be
To: VMRO-MNM redacted@bredband.net
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2001 11:42 PM
Subject:

MACEDONIA DOES NOT EXIST MY DEAR NEIGHBOURS (I mean it exist but then you 
have to go to Greece and pretty soon you gone go there I think ha ha ha ) 
!!!

KOSOVA IN THE OTHER SIDE EXIST AND I MUST SAY WE NEED A PART OF MACEDONIA 
TOO. THE PROBLEM IS THAT WE LIKE TO MAKE LOVE TO MUCH SO WE ARE GROWING 
QUITE FAST (and if we look your nation a bit too fast but nevertheless we 
like it) AND WE NEED SPACE.

BUT TRUST ME YOU WILL GET A PIECE OF SHKUPI BUT THAT'S ALL, and if it goes 
further I do not know if you gone get that even...

LONG LEAVE ALBANIA (Kosova (parts of the so called Macedonia included)
LONG LEAVE UçK !!!!

SO LONG NEIGHBOURS !!!



From: Alban Makolli  redacted@yahoo.com
To: VMRO-MNM  redacted@bredband.net
Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 4:56 PM
Subject:

ja sam albanac i ne zanima me politika ali ako vec hocete da razgovaramo o 
tome onda slusajte veliki aleksandare je bio albanac i makedonia je bila i 
bice zemlja albanaca ali mi to na hocemo jer smo fini ludi i trazimo 
samo"makedonac=albanac" inace ja sam student glume i ne volim da pricam 
politiku ali ako imate nesto umetnosti javite mi se aj sad cao...



From: Merita Hasi  redacted@yahoo.com
To: VMRO-MNM  redacted@bredband.net
Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2001 10:54 PM
Subject: CHECK THIS OUT:

hej macedonian people don't give me a bullshit because you are the terorist 
and you killed and masacraded people,and you are a fashist and killer and 
you are imigrant and foreigner because albanian people lived there before 
you came from russia,so : SHUT UP AND DON'T SEND AND SHOW PHOTOS OF KILLED 
SOLDIERS BECAUSE THATS WHAT YOU DID TO ALBANIANS AND DON'T SEND THIS 
BULLSHIT TO ENYONE ELSE BECAUSE THEY WILL NOT BYE IT .YOU SERBO-MACEDONIAN 
MOTHERFUCKER!!!!!!
YOU ARE A KILLER,AND LIAR!!!!!!



From: Cov Uni redacted@coventry.ac.uk
To: VMRO-MNM redacted@bredband.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2001 7:00 AM
Subject:

Heil Greater Albania!

Big words are all nice and good, but while Albanians speak with actions you 
are still bluring about pulling yourself together. Greater Albania is no 
longer a concept no longer a dream, Bulgars, but a reality taking shape 
daily. With the first phase finished on the Greater Albania plan, anexation 
of the Albanian lands in FYROM is only a matter of time, to complete the 
second. Over 2,000 youngsters are expecting a call to arms in Tetova alone, 
branches of NLA are present in all the towns with Albanian population in 
them. 200 officers of the Albanian army are training NLA members in Kukes 
air base and in the Black Mountains inside Fyrom.

Members of Blood and Honour Albanian Division are on their side to aid 
achieve what the 21st Waffen-SS started- The Greater Albania. So Bulgars, 
pls by all means send chain letters to us we appreciate them, and we promise 
to use them in emergency situations when our toilet paper runs out.

And hey, If you wanto to do something for your "created out of nothing" 
country, get off your butt and fight 
http://www.martin-r.f2s.com/projects/bhalbania.html these people if you got 
the balls for it.

Heil Blood and Honour Albania!
Heil Scanderbeg!
Heil ONE and Greater Albania!



From: agron.avdiu@ prishtina.li  redacted@hotmail.com
To: redacted@bredband.net
Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 11:47 PM
Subject:

fuck you mother fucker do not send email to me anymore do you understand 
bastardo mullacuno fauzo injoranti korrnuto ta qift zoti nanen kush je ti 
more kopil i shkines



From: Imeri Zaim  redacted@hotmail.com
To:  redacted@bredband.net
Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 11:46 PM
Subject:  The Macedonian For The Albanien

Hello
(Sorry I do not speak very well about English)
Mais it is what your probléme with Albanian people of the Macedonian Commits 
were able to you said that the Albanian of Macedonia are terrorists? The war 
what he make do now wants to liberer their territories as Tetova, 
Skopje,Kumanova these are territories Albanian and are not of territories
Macedonian OK. And in more the Albanian have no right-hand side in 
Macedonia. In continuation if it is necessary that one does really war with 
you other (Macedonien) one is going to make him but it is necessary that you 
know that every Albanian all around the world one are going to be bottom and
you alle to be very surprised then to visit to you it is who are going to 
win
(You speak FRENCH)

Thank you



From: Desar Sulejmani  redacted@yahoo.com
To: VMRO-MNM  redacted@bredband.net
Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 11:00 PM
Subject:

fuck you and your revolutionary organization 
VRMO-MNM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



From: Driton Kolgjini  redacted@hotmail.com
To:  redacted@bredband.net
Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 3:00 PM
Subject:

WE ARE GONNA TAKE BACK WHAT´S OURS!!!! AND NOBODY CAN STOP US!!!!!!
NOBODY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HOW MANNY PEOPLE HAVE YOU SLLAVIC BASTARDS MURDERED OVER THE YEARS??????
HAVE YOU EVER THOUGHT ABOUT THAT???
LONG LIVE GREAT ALBANIA !!!!!!!!!!
UCK!! UCK !! UCK !! UCK!! UCK!! UCK!! UCK !!!



From: Burim Duraku redacted@hotmail.com
To: redacted@bredband.net
Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 4:47 PM
Subject: odgovor

Takozvani predsenike

Prvo ti moras da ucis tvoju historu. To znaci ti moras znat ko si.Ti i tvoj 
narod ne smete i ne mozete da govorite na ime makedoskog naoda, zato sto ti 
i tvoj narod niste makedonci, vi ste neka mesana dubre serbo-ciganobugar.

Neka zivi UCK!!!



From: dionis gashi <redacted@hotmail.com>
To: redacted@bredband.net
Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2001 9:10 PM
Subject: there is no Mother Fuck..Macedonia in the world

If something you will do against ALBANIA, you all will sign your deaths.
nothing will stop us to create our old land(ALBANIA)



From: Shpend Salihi  redacted@yahoo.com
To: VMRO-MNM  redacted@bredband.net
Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2001 12:21 AM
Subject:

Zdravo majmune

Mogu ti samo reci da mozes se polako nositi u picku materinu, gde god te 
nasao, ubicu te. Nemoj ti meni takvu propagandu poslati, ti znas bolje od 
mene kakvi ste, koja maltretiranja albanci su imali od srba i od vas. Zato 
ti kazem, jos jednom, nemoj da lazes sam sebe ovom propagandom. Albanci u 
Makedoniji nista ne zele drugo, osim da budu ravnopravni sa majmunima kao 
sto si i ti.
Ako treba se hvatati za oruzje da bi vi razumeli to, onda to ce i da se 
desi. Stavite u svoju svinjsku glavu da ne zelimo Veliku Albaniju, to je 
ideja jedne manjine albanaca. Zelimo ista prava kao vi!!! I nemoj slucajno 
da jos jednom kazes ta smo manjina u Makedoniji, i sam znas da to nije 
tacno.
Bivsi clan OVK- Oslobodilacka vojska Kosova
Burim Idrizi
Mitrovica



From: Raif Rexhepi  redacted@chello.at
To: VMRO-MNM  redacted@bredbant.net
Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 4:01 PM
Subject:

Jebemti makedonsku milu majku



From: afrim ajdari  redacted@hotmail.com
To:  redacted@bredband.net
Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 11:37 AM
Subject:

I think the Greeks will also make you Change your name FYROM Macedonia, just 
like they enforced the change of your flag. Nothing personal, just 
facts.....lifes too unpredictable for al this shit...enjoy the air you 
breath even if it means you have to share.



From: Rashit shabani  redacted@operamail.com
To:  redacted@bredband.net
Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 11:03 AM

Nemoj da shaljesh propagande jebemti majku......



From: kosovar kosova  redacted@hotmail.com
To:  redacted@bredband.net
Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 10:26 AM
Subject:

jebemti majku ta ti jebem idi u picku materinu



From: Agron Sapunxhiu  redacted@home.se
To: redacted@bredband.net
Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 9:51 AM
Subject:

Hi!

Is just komunist propagand.
The World do se how macedonians police killer albanian children. The 
macedonian people does not exist.
They are bulgarian nationality, and finally self Macedonien is a greece 
land. NATO is albanians brother and so most to be in the future.
If macedonians will to live on peace, they most talk with "albanians 
rebels". You are on the wrong way(like Milosevic).

Have a nice day!



From: Ahmet Berisha  redacted@hotmail.com
To: redacted@bredband.net
Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 8:52 AM

A zasto pises, i pricas mi pricu, albanci nisu vise vasi robovi, i nikad 
nece biti, izaberite ili ziveti zajedno ili majka bugarska ce vas prihvatiti 
velikodusno.



From: albanian boy  redacted@hotmail.com
To: redacted@bredband.net
Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 8:47 AM
Subject:

Eu ta qifsha nanen me VMRO e me qka paq.
Se terrorista për terrorista jeni vetë që vrisni gra e fëmijë dhe që vrisni 
kompletë një familje.

JU JENI SLLAV DHE JU NUK JANI VENDAS TË MAQEDONISË DHE KURRË NUK DO TË 
BËHENI VENDAS.



From:  redacted@bluemail.ch
To: VMRO-MNM  redacted@bredband.net
Cc:  redacted@bluemail.ch
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2001 10:17 PM
Subject:

Meine Damen und Herren

Ich finde auch das die Albaner Ihre rechte verdienen und man sollte sie auch 
geben!
Ich bin eurer Meinung aber ich weiss um Gotteswillen was Ihr damit gewinnt, 
wenn ihr euch mit einem Nazi Titel ausgebt.
Ich finde dass niemand ein Nazi ist.
Mein Moto ist wir sind alle Menschen, und sollen unsere RECHTE geniessen.

Me falënderim!

Ju lutëm mos um dërgoni më letra.



From: Burim Meholli redacted@yahoo.com
To: VMRO-MNM redacted@bredband.net
Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2001 5:57 AM
Subject:

YOU LITTLE PIECE OF SHIT. FUCK OFF..........



From: Rushit Arifi redacted@swipnet.se
To: VMRO-MNM redacted@bredband.com
Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2001 10:45 AM
Subject:

dra åt helvete du och dina makedoner!!!!



From: Albert Shehu  redacted@etek.chalmers.se
To: VMRO-MNM  redacted@bredband.net
Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2001 12:14 PM
Subject:

go and fuck you self your dirty slavish and gipsy race..



From: dionis gashi  redacted@hotmail.com
To:  redacted@bredband.net
Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2001 9:10 PM
Subject: there is no Mother Fuck..Macedonia in the world

If something you will do against ALBANIA, you all will sign your deaths.
nothing will stop us to create our old land(ALBANIA)



From: Fatmir Sulo  redacted@yahoo.com
To: VMRO-MNM  redacted@bredband.net
Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 4:09 AM
Subject:

Fuck You all,
Instead of bullshitting everybody with your bullshitstory, give freedom to 
almost half of the population of that fucking stupid country of yours.

Fuck your "revolutionary organization"



From: Pranvera Idoska  redacted@yahoo.com
To: VMRO-MNM  redacted@bredband.net
Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 6:56 AM
Subject:

I'm sorry but as I have learned the American history and being born in US as 
an American, that's is all lies whatever is said in your e-mail. I do know 
much about Albanians that Albanians are truthful and fair everywhere they 
are and live. They sure don't have any rights in Macedonia. Please correct 
yourself and do some research because it seems that you're lost and trying 
to lie us American fellows. I do have a Macedonian neighbor, Mirjana Kozeski 
that admits the truth about Albanians not having any rights. Thanks for your 
time.

Pranvera & Mirjana



From: Hysen Ibrahimi  redacted@yahoo.com
To: VMRO-MNM redacted@bredband.net
Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 2:11 PM
Subject: Re: The Macedonian Revolutionary Organization VMRO-MNM (Macedonia 
For The Macedonians)!

VMRO-MNM  <redacted@bredband.net> wrote: >
The Macedonian Revolutionary Organization VMRO-MNM (Macedonia For The 
Macedonians)!

Web Site: http://www.vmro-mnm.com

May 13, 2001

Is there any "justice"? ...NO!
Is there any "democracy"? ...NO!
Is there any "solidarity"? ...NO!
Is there any "truth"? ...NO!

A "war" has been going on for over 2 months with "Albanian", balistic 
terrorists and the Western World's terror and barbaric organization NATO. It 
is called war, by the western media, between the Macedonian Army and 
Albanian "partisans" and rebels.
For the Macedonian organization VMRO-MNM and the Macedonian nation their is 
no war between the Macedonian Army - or Special Forces as they are also 
called - and the "Albanian" balistic terrorists.
This Army in Macedonia consist of young Macedonian boys, doing their 
military service. Nor do they fight under the country flag of the Macedonian 
nation but under a non-Macedonian flag - the Fan.
The Macedonian flag is the sun with 16 beams, the symbol of Kutles. Many of 
our young boys have been brutally murdered, slaughtered, massacred by cold 
blooded terrorists.
These terrorists are the "Albanian" balists from Caucasus, controlled by the 
Western World's terror and barbaric organization NATO. The pictures of the 
young Macedonian boys, brutally massacred, are terrible to watch. They who 
are responsible are NATO and the "Macedonian" government.

This war in Macedonia is not about "'Albanians" being discriminated and 
without human rights. That is only lies and propaganda. The war is between 
Tirana and the anti Macedonian government who has not kept the "promise" 
they did long time ago about dividing Macedonia between "Great Albania" and 
"Bulgaria".

Here you can see how the Western World has planned to divide Macedonia. This 
map from London is new but they try to make us believe their lies about the 
date of the map. It is now that they are planning to create a "Great 
Albania".

The media must immediately stop its propaganda. The pictures of the 
Macedonian boys, brutally massacred, has not been shown on TV or published 
in the newspapers. But when it concerns the friends of the Western World, 
the propaganda of the "Albanian" balists, their lies are shown and 
published. And sentences as "Poor Albanians", "What is happening to the 
Albanian people", are used, for example, in Western countries as the Former 
Scandinavian Province of Sweden. The media must also stop its provocations 
against Macedonia concerning the use of sentences as "Macedonian slaves" or 
"the Slavic population of Macedonia".

The "Albanian" terrorists want more and more, more land; a "Great Albania" 
for their rabbit-farming.
The Balkans is not enough for them. Give them a helping hand and they will 
take everything. An excellent idea to stop the war is that the countries in 
the Western World bring all the "Albanians" - their "partisans as they call 
them - to them.

This new "coalition" government that the Western World has formed indicates 
that it is the Western World that decides in Macedonia - who is going to be 
in the government and in the parliament - but not the Macedonian people. The 
Western World must gather its terror soldiers, its terror organization and 
leave Macedonia. Stop organize thousands of "Albanians" on Macedonian 
territory and giving them food, medicine and military equipment. It is the 
Western World's specialists, officers that is training them. We say; get out 
of the country!

The Western World's media must stop "babbling" their lies about the "per 
cent's" of "Albanians" that are living in western Macedonia. The "Albanians" 
are a minority in our country. They are also foreigners and immigrants. They 
should stop talking about that Macedonia must give them rights. They have 
more rights than the natives.

The Macedonian Organization VMRO-MNM demand that the false name FYROM and 
the false classification Macedonian slaves will not be mentioned or 
commented. The only "label" for our nation is Macedonia, the Macedonian 
nation/people and the Macedonian country. Nor do we wish to see the damned 
Flag - the Fan - displayed anywhere in the world.
Only the sun with 16 beams, the symbol of Kutles is acceptable.

Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet

President of the
Macedonian Organization
VMRO-MNM


"Ethnic Albanian men fleeing the fighting in Macedonia face severe 
ill-treatment by the police.
We have documented serious beatings and torture of ethnic Albanians at the 
Kumanovo and Skopje police stations in the last week. The victims we 
interviewed have the bruises and injuries to back up their claims of abuse."

Holly Cartner
HRW Executive
Director
Europe and
Central Asia division

http://www.hrw.org/press/2001/05/macedonia0530.htm

Macedonian Police Abuses Documented Ethnic Albanian Men Separated, Tortured 
at Police Stations (Skopje, Macedonia, May 31, 2001) Macedonian forces are 
systematically separating out ethnic Albanian males fleeing fierce fighting 
in northern Macedonia, and severely beating some of the men at police 
stations, Human Rights Watch said today. In the most severe cases documented 
by Human Rights Watch, the ill-treatment appears intended to extract 
confessions or information about the National Liberation Army (NLA) and 
amounts to torture. The fear of violence at the hands of the Macedonian 
police is also stopping many ethnic Albanians from fleeing to safety into 
government-controlled territory.

"Ethnic Albanian men fleeing the fighting in Macedonia face severe 
ill-treatment by the police," said Holly Cartner, executive director of the 
Europe and Central Asia division of Human Rights Watch. "We have documented 
serious beatings and torture of ethnic Albanians at the Kumanovo and Skopje 
police stations in the last week. The victims we interviewed have the 
bruises and injuries to back up their claims of abuse."

On May 22, Macedonian forces launched an offensive against ethnic Albanian 
fighters of the NLA who had seized control of villages located in the 
vicinity of the northern Macedonian town of Kumanovo.
An estimated fifteen thousand civilians remain in the NLA-controlled 
territory, sparking concerns of significant civilian casualties if the 
fighting continues.
Since the beginning of the renewed offensive, Macedonian forces have 
separated out men from the civilians fleeing the fighting and have severely 
beaten some of them.

Human Rights Watch researchers have documented cases of severe beating at 
the Kumanovo police station, located in the region where the latest fighting 
is taking place, as well as at the Skopje police station, located in the 
capital city of Macedonia. Some of the tactics involved hundreds of blows to 
the soles of the victims' feet-a torture technique known as falanga which 
causes severe pain and swelling and can lead to kidney failure-as well as 
extended beatings on the hands, buttocks, arms, and heads of the victims. 
The men interviewed by Human Rights Watch indicated that they had heard the 
screams of many other beating victims at the police stations, suggesting 
that the scope of such abuse may be widespread and condoned at the police 
stations.

Human Rights Watch said that the ill-treatment violates international human 
rights law, and in the most severe cases amounts to torture.

Many of the ethnic Albanians are reluctant to talk to international 
observers because they fear further retaliation from the Macedonian police, 
and have in some cases been warned by their abusers not to discuss their 
maltreatment. For this reason, identifying details are withheld from the 
testimonies summarized below. Some of the men were forced to sign 
confessions under torture and to implicate others in NLA-related activities. 
Large numbers of men continue to be separated out from convoys of fleeing 
civilians and taken to police stations.

On Tuesday, May 29, Human Rights Watch researchers observed a group of 
approximately thirty-five ethnic Albanian men from the village of Matejce 
who were separated from their female relatives and taken into the police 
station at Kumanovo.

"Jevit Hasani," (not his real name), a seventeen-year-old villager from 
Vaksince, an NLA-controlled village recaptured by government forces over the 
weekend, was arrested and taken to the Skopje police station after fleeing 
fighting in the village. He described the treatment he experienced in the 
police station:

They took us in a corridor. Suddenly I was hit on the head with a wooden 
stick, and then ten or so people began beating me until I fainted. When I 
came to, I was in a room. They were swearing, insulting my mother and 
sister, calling me an NLA fighter, a terrorist nationalist. I was lying on 
the ground on my side, facing the wall when I woke up, and my shoes were 
off. They started beating me on the feet and the buttocks. At the beginning 
they would just beat me. They would count ten hits as one, and went all 
until fifty or sixty [i.e. five hundred to six hundred hits]. This was 
before they asked me questions.

[After being questioned and beaten more], they wrote a confession. Then they 
made me read the confession in front of a camera in another room.
I had to confess I was a spy, and they made me read a list of names of 
people in the NLA which they had prepared, and say that the NLA had refused 
to let the civilians go out and abused us.

"Jevit Hasani" was released after forty-eight hours in custody. He showed 
Human Rights Watch researchers the deep bruises and hematoma on his buttocks 
caused by the severe beatings, and explained he had continued to suffer the 
after effects of beatings to his private parts. According to "Jevit Hasani" 
many other people were undergoing beatings while he was being detained at 
the police station: "I heard other people screaming while I was being 
interrogated, in other rooms. They were screaming in pain, there were a lot 
of them." A second witness interviewed by Human Rights Watch offered an 
essentially similar account of his beating at the Skopje police station, and 
also had deep bruises and hematoma on his buttocks and swollen hands, but 
did not want his ordeal publicized out of fear of police retaliation.

"Ymer Aqifi," (not his real name) a fifty-one-year-old father of six from 
Slupcane, was beaten at the Kumanovo police station on Sunday, May 27. He 
described the beatings he and eight other men he was detained with 
sustained:

We were taken into a corridor. Four [police investigators] made me lie down 
flat on my stomach. They beat me with an iron bar on the wrists, a wooden 
stick on my head, a [police] baton on my buttocks, and kicked with their 
feet however much they wanted. They were swearing, insulting my mother and 
sisters, all kinds of curses. They were asking who is NLA, where the Imam 
[religious leader] of the village was, where the civilian defenses were, 
where the headquarters were. But no one wrote down anything, they didn't 
wait for answers.
That lasted for about an hour I lost consciousness.
Then they poured water on me. Two policemen came when I regained 
consciousness and they took me and the others to another corridor. Down 
there, all night long, there were screaming people beneath us. You could 
hear how they beat them.

"Ymer Aqifi" showed Human Rights Watch researchers the deep bruises and 
hematoma on his buttocks, deep bruises on his arms, bruises on his forehead 
and the sides of his head, and his swollen hands.

Twenty-five-year-old "Adem Yimeri" (not his real name), a farmer from 
Vaksince, was also beaten at Kumanovo police station.
He described the beating to Human Rights Watch:

They took us to offices and there were three [police investigators]. They 
took me to an office by myself. He said to write down who is in the NLA.
They asked me about my relatives in Kosovo. A person entered with a wooden 
stick covered with tape and he hit me on the back. Then they hit me on the 
sides of the head [above the hairline] so the bruises wouldn't show. They 
hit me twice on the hands with the bat. Then they said, "If it doesn't hurt 
like that, put them on the table and we will make sure you never pick up 
arifle again." Then they hit me ten more times on the hands.

Then they made me bend over a chair. One of them would hit me in the 
kidneys, and another hit me on the head. They said they would destroy my 
kidneys so I could never work again. From 12 to 4p.m., they beat me like 
that.

"Ethnic Albanian men remaining in the villages under NLA control fear 
ill-treatment and torture at the hands of Macedonian forces," commented 
Cartner. "There is little doubt that this fear is one of the reasons why so 
many ethnic Albanian men are refusing to leave their homes in the conflict 
zone."
Police forces have also abused ethnic Albanian civilians this past week 
during raids against suspected NLA sympathizers in Tetovo, the scene of 
earlier fighting between the NLA and government forces. Human Rights Watch 
researchers documented the cases of ten ethnic Albanian men who were beaten 
during police raids in the villages of Dzepciste and Poroj on May 25.
During the raid on the Dzepciste home of Naser Junizi, a schoolteacher and 
village leader accused by the Macedonian government of assisting the NLA, 
police commandos beat Naser Junizi, two of his brothers, his 
sixty-eight-year-old father, and his eighteen-year-old son. Police also 
entered the Poroj compound of the Saiti family, kicking and breaking three 
ribs of thirty-six-year-old Rami Saiti and attacking his 
seventy-three-year-old father and seventeen-year-old cousin before 
apparently realizing they had entered the wrong home and rapidly leaving.

Human Rights Watch noted that police abuse of ethnic Albanians, as well as 
of Macedonian Slavs who run afoul of the police, is endemic in Macedonia, as 
documented in two earlier Human Rights Watch reports issued in 1996 and 
1998. The NLA has claimed that one of the main reasons for its armed 
rebellion is the failure of the Macedonian government to address police 
abuse as well as other forms of discrimination against ethnic Albanians.

Although the Macedonian police appear responsible for the majority of 
beating cases, Macedonian military forces have also been implicated in 
beatings. Macedonian military troops appear responsible for the beating of a 
family of seven in the village of Runica, in which many houses were 
reportedly burned down by Macedonian troops on May 21, 2001. Human Rights 
Watch called for an immediate end to torture and other ill-treatment at 
police stations and urged the international community closely to monitor the 
treatment of ethnic Albanians by the Macedonian forces.

"The international community must do its part to bring an end to police 
abuse of ethnic Albanians in Macedonia," said Cartner. "International 
support for the Macedonian government should not mean remaining silent inthe 
face of such severe ill-treatment."

Jebem vas qetniqku mater



From: Avni Dervishi redacted@albanian.zzn.com
To: redacted@bredband.net
Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2001 3:11 PM
Subject: GO TO HELL !!!!!!



From: Kristo, Daniel redacted@Lku.edu
To: VMRO-MNM redacted@bredband.net
Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2001 5:42 AM
Subject:

Hi Mr. Angry Man:
You wrote as I quote: "The "Albanians" are a minority in our country. They 
are also foreigners and immigrants. They should stop talking about that 
Macedonia must give them rights. They have more rights than the natives." - 
what the heck are you talking about!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Since when did you decide that the "Albanians" are foreigners and immigrants 
in your country? How old is the "Republic of Macedonia"? Do you remember the 
separation of greater Albania in 1913??? If not, I recall that during that 
year, Albania's territory was cut into pieces to satisfy the ballkanic 
countries, including ex-Yugosllavia (under which you have been not many year 
ago). The actual country of Albania is surrounded by Albanians in Monte 
Negro, Kosovo, Macedonia, and Greece.

Let just say that the history of Albania it's an unfortunate history which 
has been a victim of land-maniacs. I guess time is the only telling factor 
for all of us. God is watching, too.

Peace,
DK



From: irfan islami  redacted@hotmail.com
To:  redacted@bredband.net
Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 1:07 PM
Subject:

picka vam mater. Viste teroristi, mi znamo to, ali albanci ce da vam jebe 
makedonsku majku, viste prljava bugarska djubra nista drugo, zivela ILIRIDA 
nova albanska drzava u united states of Albania, mi ce da budem kao Amerika 
najvelika evropska sila ali moderna sila cemo biti demokratska sila, ali 
samo vama prljavi slavci ce da ubijem dokle da budete dobri kao druge 
nacije. Smrt Makedonija, I bugarcima u Makedoniju posto sada nema makedonci 
oni su daleko pre ali sada viste samo jebeni bugarski cigani.



From: hasan prishtina <redacted@yahoo.com>
Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 13:57:19 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: koj sum jas li?
To: redacted@vmro-mnm.com

Epa jas sum nekoj koj mozda premnogu dobro te znae, a mozda i ne te znam 
nego samo te citam posto si mnogu prost i lesno razbirliv.Se nadevam deka 
kje imam moznost nekogas da pijam edno kafe so tebe(se razbira ako dotogas 
ne te skinat tvoite,makedoncite)i da ti kazam pricinite kako izasto ja 
izgubivte ovaa vojna (koja sigurno kje ja izgubite).
Ete dodeka pisuvam ,citam za nekoj pet decinja od bitola koj poginale 
,branejki go integritetot na Makedonija (koj nikoj ne go zagrozuva).
Dali nekogas razmisluvas za niv,dali nekogas pomisluvas i samiot da se fatis 
za puska i da pojdes tamu,da gi vodis,a ne samo da gi "palis"i posle "koj gi 
ebe".
Nemoj taka ne cini.
Mene covekot koj me povikuval na vojna dosol so mene tamu...me vodel..mi 
pokazuval....a ne me frlil(rezultatite pokazuvaat)
pisi mi!



From: "ISMET MEHMETI" redacted@hotmail.com
To: redacted@vmro-mnm.com
Cc: <redacted@yahoo.com>
Subject: A koj si ti???
Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 18:34:30 +0200

Ne znam sto droga koristis no stvarno u jaki tripovi vleguvas.Si nasol mali 
decinja i zaveduvas.Taka li e??
Ako si tolku vlijatelen kolku sto se trudis da bides (sepak prasuvam za tebe 
niz Makedonija i lugjeto ne te poznavaat,Makedoncite),zasto ne gi sprecis 
tie decinja da ginat za tie tvoi "ideali".Izgleda lesno ti e tebe,si se 
zasonil nekde vo "beliot svet" i od tamu rsum pravis.
No ne zaboravaj,rakata na albancite e tolku dolga sto moze da te stigne kade 
i da si.Od smrtta se bega od UCK ne (prasaj go licno i Romeo od Kumanovo ako 
e seuste ziv).Covek se nadevamdeka eden den kje te skinat ovie tvoite koga 
kje razberat deka si eftin voen profiter.



From: luli l redacted@yahoo.com
To: redacted@bredband.net
Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2001 7:20 PM
Subject: ludilo

Iako ne uspeav da go citam do kraj celiot tekst na onoj sto tatko mu go 
narekol VREKA SO GOMNO, a za mene toj e nesto poveke od toa. No seto toa 
zvuceshe mnogu prepotentno od edna strana a i bolno od drugata strana da 
mislis deka ima tolku bolni lugje vo ovaa zemja, a najmnogu me plasi faktot 
sto brojot na takvi nezdravi Glavi e mnogu pogolem odkolku sto mozeme nie da 
zamislime.
Stvarno zalosno.
Eden den ke se zasramat so sebesi i so nekogasnoto detsko, fashisticko, i 
racisticko odnesuvanje.

30 m Gv, Albanec



From: Melos Fazliu <redacted@hotmail.com>
To: redacted@bredband.net
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 3:53 PM
Subject:
u r next.....



From: "mimi nolastname" redacted@negotina.8m.com
To: redacted@bredband.net
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 10:35 PM
Subject: Fwd:

AKO JA SAKATE MAKEDONIJA VAKVA KAKVA SHTO E, SLUSHAJTE GI UÇK ILI ONA ILI 
NLA, INAKU TIE SE PODGOTVENI NE SO VASHITE VOLCI ILI KAKO GI VIKATE TUKU I 
PICHKATA OD MAJKA VI NEMA DA VE SPASI, A SO TOA SHTO STE GO NAPRAVILE VO 
MANASTIR (BITOLLA ZA DA ME RAZBIRATE)QE VIDIME KAKO QE VI BIDE KRAJOT.

OVA MAPA SIGURNO MOZHE DA VI KAZHE NESHTO

*** There is an attachment in this mail. **



From: Rahim Hiseni redacted@hotmail.com
To: redacted@bredband.net
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2001 5:17 PM
Subject:

FUCK YOU ALL MACEDONIEN WHE WILL KILL YOU ALL...........



From: "Marko Polo" redacted@hotmail.com
To: redacted@bredband.net
Sent: Friday, June 15, 2001 4:07 PM
Subject: pozdrav

A be pederi Makedonci dali znaete vie deka sekoj sto se bori vo negovo mesto 
pobeduva pa i mie ke pobedime !!!!!!!

BIDETE UVERENI NA TOA POBEDATA E NASA



From: "Isa Boletini" redacted@hotmail.com
To: redacted@vmro-mnm.com
Subject: eve eden podarok od nas
Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2001 19:35:10 -0000

eve eden podarok od nas a ova e samo pocetok gos.pecedatel na kurot.
ako ne znaes historia toa e tvoj problem a i ne se cudam zosto i taka ste 
dosle od Karpati pa planinci ste i ovcari . A za toa koj kako ke pobedi ke 
ostavime samata majka Historia da pokaze.Tolku a da ne zaboravam patriot da 
si idi na front ili i taka gakite ti se polni so gomna i se plasis a nie ne 
nie site sme MUJAHEDINI ova e za nas JIHAD da umres za ALLAH i za svoja 
zemja e naseto posakuvanje ALLAHU EKBER(God is Great) vie od pocetok imate 
zagubena vojna



From: "vmro-mnm " redacted@vmro-mnm.com
Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 02:03:12 +0200
Reply-To: redacted@vmro-mnm.com
To: "Isa Boletini" redacted@hotmail.com
Subject: Re: pokazi go i ova mapa

Nemame dobieno nikakvi karti od vas siptarite i od vasite prijateli 
amerikanci, pa niti sliki.
Atachmen poraki ne otvarame.

MAKEONIJA NA MAKEDONCITE!

VMRO-MNM

---------- Original Message ----------------------------------

From: "Isa Boletini" redacted@hotmail.com
Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2001 21:41:11 -0000

Po se izgleda deka navistina ste kukavici i ova rabota za nas deka sme od 
kavkaz samo zatoa sto najde edna mapa kade sto pisuva Albanian pa i vo 
amerika ima mesto kade sto se vika Albani TX, ; Albnia ARZ. po se izgleda 
sprema vasata filozofia i ovie mesta se ili nasi ili i nie poteknuvame od 
Amerika i sega Gorge W.Bush e albanec(vo Kosovo ima klan stose prezimuva 
BUSH) pa nie sme naj jaka nacia vo svetot. Sakate fakti eve fakti vo niedna 
literatura ili izdanie bilo od koja svetska istoria ne se spomenuva Vasite 
iluzionisticki mapi ili od kade poteknuvate tuku za nas za zal deka ste od 
KARPATITE pa zatoa prestanete so vasite iluzii deka ste anticki i ne kradete 
istoria od drugi  Drug fakt: na taa mapa imase i mesto sto se vika ILIRICUM 
a ako ne znaete (sigurno no se plasite) deka nie poteknuvame od niv tie se 
nasite predci. I zosto ne go pokazafte fotografijata sto via ja prativ ili 
od sram se plasite od vasite golemi zagubi.
Uste ednas vasata vojna e zagubena od pocetok

PS. ova zname mi go ispratija specialnite sili na UCK(tie na foto) CIA za 
mapata pa imaj hrabrost i pokazi.



FROM: redacted@aol.com
DATE: Sat, 4 Aug 2001 20:11:56 EDT
TO: redacted@vmro-mnm.com
SUBJECT: sve kaurrsko pleme naj milko so imas da ti ebam kaurri

UCK ZAKON ZA MAKEDONIA I ZA MAJKA TI HAHAHAHAHAHHAHA



FROM: "vlldko nikolev" redacted@hotmail.com
DATE: Sat, 4 Aug 2001 20:15:43 -0600
TO: redacted@vmro-mnm.com
SUBJECT: UMIRI BHE KAURRSKO PLEME!

FROM: "OEM1" redacted@bluewin.ch
DATE: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 14:28:18 +0200
TO: redacted@vmro-mnm.com
SUBJECT:

Makedonsko Djubre



FROM: "irfan islami" redacted@hotmail.com
DATE: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 20:47:55 +0400
TO: redacted@vmro-mnm.com

picka vam mater vama makedonski teroristi we will send you in bullgaria 
becose you are bullgarians

smrt makedonianski bugarcim


Dali ima nekoj Makedonec koj sto go poznava arnautskiot balisticki jazik.
Baram za da se prevedi ova poraka na Makedonski jazik (Pod itno).

Unapred blagodaram za Vasata iskrenost!!!!!!!

Pozdrav od,

TREPET

www.vmro-mnm.com
redacted@vmro-mnm.com


FROM: "albanian boy" redacted@hotmail.com
DATE: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 11:25:42 0000
TO: redacted@vmro-mnm.com
SUBJECT: From Irfan/Sweden...

Ti sllav.

Ti mundesh me shkru me mijera faqe se shqiptaret jane terrorist, por a ke 
harruar se ti je ai i cili je sllav, terrorist, shka e gjithqka qe merret me 
mend.

A ke harru se kurr ma nuk keni me pas kurr forc mbi shqiptaret.
A ke harru se edhe nje kohe do te ndahet edhe maqedonia dhe shqiptaret do ta 
marrin ate pjese qe iu ka takuar prej shekujsh, dhe ate kurr nuk keni per ta 
marre.

Ka kaluar ajo kohe qe te keni pushtet mbi shqiptaret dhe tani vetem duhet te 
pajtoheni ne rrethanat e reja qe fatmiresisht do te krijohen ne te mire te 
shqiptarve...

Pra o i qim nane shkruaj sa te duash se ke shllajfit.

Nje pershendetje per te gjith vllezrit e motrat shqiptare.
tung



From: dionis gashi redacted@hotmail.com
To: redacted@bredband.net
Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2001 4:12 PM
Subject: there is no Mother Fuck..Macedonia in the world

If something you will do against ALBANIA, you all will sign your deaths.
nothing will stop us to create our old land(ALBANIA)



FROM: Alban halili <redacted@yahoo.com.au>
DATE: Sat, 27 Oct 2001 01:01:46 +1000 (EST)
TO: VMRO-MNM redacted@vmro-mnm.com
SUBJECT: Mamu ti cigansku

HAHAHAHAHAHAAH

Macedonia is a heart of Albania!!!!!!!!!and Shkupi will be the Capital of 
Greater Albania??

We "Kosovar black eagles" r able to take macedonia within 2 hours???????
Kosovar black eagles" A special army unit mainly consisted of kOSOVARS 
aMERICANS and English paramilitary special troops???

Alla bless U.S.A kosova, England, Germany we gonna kill all uz mother 
fuckers??????

http://briefcase.yahoo.com.au - Yahoo! Briefcase - Manage your files online.




Från: "Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet" <redacted@hotmail.com>
Till: redacted@hotmail.com, 
redacted@hotmail.com, 
redacted@hotmail.com, 
redacted@hotmail.com, 
redacted@hotmail.com, 
redacted@hotmail.com, 
redacted@hotmail.com, 
redacted@hotmail.com, redacted@hotmail.com, 
redacted@hotmail.com, 
redacted@hotmail.com, 
redacted@hotmail.com, redacted@hotmail.com, 
redacted@hotmail.com, 
redacted@hotmail.com, 
redacted@hotmail.com, 
redacted@hotmail.com, 
redacted@hotmail.com, 
redacted@hotmail.com, 
redacted@hotmail.com, 
redacted@hotmail.com, 
redacted@hotmail.com, redacted@hotmail.com
Kopia: redacted@hotmail.com, redacted@hotmail.com, 
redacted@hotmail.com, redacted@hotmail.com, 
redacted@hotmail.com, 
redacted@hotmail.com, redacted@hotmail.com, 
redacted@hotmail.com, redacted@hotmail.com, redacted@hotmail.com, 
redacted@hotmail.com, redacted@hotmail.com, 
redacted@hotmail.com, redacted@hotmail.com, 
redacted@ozemail.com.au, redacted@makedonskafalanga.cjb.net, 
redacted@mt.net.mk, redacted@mt.net.mk, redacted@bigpond.com, 
redacted@yahoo.com
Ämne: E-mail poraka so provokacii i agresii od sasmrdenite i gnasnite 
siptari...
Datum: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 19:42:56 +0000

Från: "Ferik Ferizaj" redacted@aol.com
Till: "Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet" redacted@hotmail.com
Ämne: Macedonia is Ours
Datum: Sat, 20 Sep 2003 13:27:58 +0200 (MEST)

Albanians will take over Macedonia within 10 years (remember this)!!!.
And Albanians are not terrorists but you and all Serbians are. The world 
knows who terrorists are.
There is no Macedonian Nation-those who call themselves Macedonian are 
either Serbian or Bulgarian-everybody knows it.
I'm not from Macedonia but I Will fight for our


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From: Fxxxxxxx Mxxxxxxx redacted@corp.globo.com
To: "'St. Kliment Ohridski Of Macedonia'" 
redacted@hotmail.com
Subject: RES: The Western World propaganda about MACEDONIA AND THE 
MACEDONIAN NATION!
Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 17:59:32 -0300

Hello. My name is Fxxxxxxx Mxxxxxxx and I'm a journalist here in Brazil. I 
write for two websites and a newspaper from Globo Network, the fourth 
communication company all around the world. I'd like to know something more 
about Macedonian problems and it would be a very good idea having an 
interview with mister Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet, President of the Macedonian
Organization VMRO-MNM. I hope to hear about you soon.

Thanks for your attention.

Best Regards

Fxxxxxxx Mxxxxxxx
Rio de Janeiro - Brazil

-----Mensagem original-----
De: St. Kliment Ohridski Of Macedonia
[mailto:redacted@hotmail.com]
Enviada em: Tuesday, September 23, 2003 5:45 PM
Para: redacted@corp.globo.com; redacted@corp.globo.com;
redacted@oglobo.com.br; redacted@corp.globo.com; redacted@corp.globo.com;
redacted@corp.globo.com; redacted@corp.globo.com; redacted@corp.globo.com;
redacted@corp.globo.com; redacted@corp.globo.com;
redacted@oglobo.com.br; redacted@oglobo.com.br;
redacted@corp.globo.com; redacted@oglobo.com.br; redacted@oglobo.com.br;
redacted@corp.globo.com; redacted@corp.globo.com;
redacted@corp.globo.com; redacted@corp.globo.com;
redacted@oglobo.com.br; redacted@oglobo.com.br;
redacted@infoglobo.com.br; redacted@oglobo.com.br;
redacted@oglobo.com.br; redacted@oglobo.com.br; redacted@oglobo.com.br;
redacted@oglobo.com.br; redacted@oglobo.com.br; redacted@oglobo.com.br;
redacted@oglobo.com.br; redacted@oglobo.com.br; redacted@oglobo.com.br;
redacted@oglobo.com.br; redacted@oglobo.com.br; redacted@oglobo.com.br;
redacted@rbspublicacoes.com.br; redacted@via-rs.net;
redacted@valor.com.br; redacted@valor.com.br;
redacted@valor.com.br
Assunto: The Western World propaganda about MACEDONIA AND THE MACEDONIAN
NATION!

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Från: "MACEDONIAN PATRIOT" <redacted@hotmail.com>
Till: redacted@hotmail.com, redacted@hotmail.com, 
redacted@hotmail.com, redacted@hotmail.com, 
redacted@hotmail.com, 
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redacted@hotmail.com, 
redacted@hotmail.com, 
redacted@hotmail.com, 
redacted@hotmail.com, 
redacted@hotmail.com, redacted@hotmail.com, 
redacted@hotmail.com, 
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redacted@hotmail.com, redacted@hotmail.com, 
redacted@hotmail.com, 
redacted@hotmail.com, 
redacted@hotmail.com, 
redacted@hotmail.com, 
redacted@hotmail.com, 
redacted@hotmail.com, 
redacted@hotmail.com, 
redacted@hotmail.com
Kopia: redacted@hotmail.com, redacted@hotmail.com, 
redacted@hotmail.com, redacted@hotmail.com, 
redacted@hotmail.com, redacted@hotmail.com, 
redacted@hotmail.com, 
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redacted@hotmail.com, redacted@hotmail.com, 
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Ämne: Re: PRESENT ALBANIANS ARE SO CONFUSED ABOUT THERE IDENTITY.
Datum: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 08:01:46 +0000

Från: "Xxxxxxx" <redacted@hotmail.com>
Till:  "MACEDONIAN PATRIOT" <redacted@hotmail.com>
Ämne: Re: PRESENT ALBANIANS ARE SO CONFUSED ABOUT THERE IDENTITY.
Datum: Fri, 10 Oct 2003 18:12:01 -0700


----- Original Message -----

From: xxxxxx redacted@hotmail.com
To: "MACEDONIAN PATRIOT" redacted@hotmail..com
Sent: Friday, October 10, 2003 8:38 AM
Subject: RE: PRESENT ALBANIANS ARE SO CONFUSED ABOUT THERE IDENTITY.

_THE ALBANIANS_

I refer to you Sir, albanians are to different peoples one toski believed to 
be of macedonian descent other ghegs desendents of mongol turkish from the 
ottoman times, they came to the balkans 1430's and even at later stages like 
1900's they the present albanians are confused people, they dont know about 
there real history of albania and the miaonian macedonian gorgi krastiot 
those name changed  by ottomans to iskenberg, and to end this shot note i 
say macedonians will be united again the macedonians tribes as mentioned by 
homer pionians who todays croatians are the mix of, brygians and even the 
illyrians had some customs as the macedonians, keltoi or celtic as there 
known now also had same customs as the macedonians veneti or in homers time 
the eneti were a macedonian tribe too, there are many macedonian tribes just 
remember macedonian as mentioned by homer and others borded with macedonians 
only.
May God Bless You and Macedonia
yours faithfully
makedonian
please withhold my email
as i dont want greek, albanian propaganda.


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Letter to the European Court of Human Rights Council of Europe 
Strasbourg-Cedex FRANCE!

Brev till Europeiska domstolen för de mänskliga rättigheterna i 
Strasbourg–Cedex Frankrike!?
OCH MM....


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2003-04-02

Till Europadomstolen i Strasbourg
Jag skriver till er angående mina problem i detta nazistiska, fascistiska 
och kriminella, svenska samhälle. I detta land har jag utsatts för 
bedrägliga och kränkande handlingar av svenska kriminella myndigheter som 
stulit hundratusentals kronor av mig.

1987 öppnade jag ett företag. Jag lånade då 45 000 skr på SE-banken. Jag tog 
också lån på Nordbanken (+checkräkningskredit). Därutöver köpte jag 
kontorsmöbler på IKEA och kontorsmaterial på Gleerups, allt på faktura, mm. 
Tyvärr gick inte företaget bra och för att kunna överleva var jag tvungen 
att avregistrera mitt företag. Hade jag bara hållit ut en månad till, då jag 
blev erbjuden ett arbete av ett stort byggnadsföretag i Sverige, hade min 
lycka varit gjord.

1988 började jag arbeta på ett slakteri. Jag började då också betala av på 
min skuld med 1 250 kr som automatiskt drogs från min lön varannan vecka. 
Lite mer än ett år senare var min skuld på 45 000 skr till SE-banken betald 
– endast räntan återstod. Jag fortsatte då att betala 1 000 skr/mån till 
detta. Tyvärr skadades jag allvarligt på mitt arbete vilket betydde att jag 
blev långtidssjukskriven. Jag fortsatte ändå att betala av på räntan till 
SE-banken. Problemet var att även kronofogdemyndigheten gjorde avdrag på min 
sjukinkomst med mellan 1 000 – 1 500 skr/mån. Till slut med min dåliga (och 
fortsatt dåliga) inkomst kändes detta ohållbart och jag slutade betala till 
SE-banken. Kronofogdemyndigheten tog då över alla skulder.

Kronofogdemyndigheten har alltså dragit pengar från mig under hela tiden. 
Både under min sjukskrivning och sedan när jag blev förtidspensionär. Summan 
har varit ca 2 500 skr/mån (någon gång 2 800 skr). De har också lagt beslag 
på min överskjutande skatt. Denna summa har varierat beroende på hur mycket 
skatt jag betalat in men den har legat på mellan 6 000 kr – 9 000 kr. Allt 
som allt har kronofogdemyndigheten dragit ca 30 000 – 40 000 skr av mig 
varje år.

Som nämnts tidigare så började jag betala av på min skuld till SE-banken 
1988 och lite mer än ett år senare var skulden betald. Det skrämmande är att 
år 2000 betalade jag 18 805,34 skr i ränta till SE-banken. Detta är alltså 
ca 10 år senare! Både skulden och räntan har alltså betalats tillbaka med 
åtminstone ett fyrdubbelt belopp. Men det som är mer skrämmande är att år 
2002 fick jag papper om att jag fortfarande inte var kvitt skulden till 
SE-banken utan var skyldig dem 54 739 skr! När jag kontaktade SE-banken 
angående detta sade de att jag inte var skyldig dem något, att skulden var 
betald. Men enligt ett papper från kronofogdemyndigheten daterat 2003-03-12 
är nu skulden till SE-banken 57 556 skr. Detta är en höjning på skulden på 2 
817 skr på ett år. Då kan man börja undra var de ca 2 500 skr tar vägen som 
de drar av mig varje månad. De har i alla fall inte använt dem till att 
betala skulder.

Min dåliga hälsa och mitt handikapp har inneburit otaliga läkarbesök och 
dyra mediciner. Detta och min redan dåliga ekonomi på grund av mycket låg 
inkomst tillsammans med kronofogdens avdrag gjorde att jag 1996 fick problem 
med att betala min hyra. Min hyresskuld var då 8 848 kr inklusive ränta. I 
1997, då kronofogdemyndigheten tog över skulden, var den på 10 679 skr 
exklusive ränta! Inklusive ränta skulle jag då betala 12 896 skr. Vad jag 
inte kan förstå är hur kapitalskulden kan förändras. Att det tillkommer 
ränta är inget egendomligt (den skall dock vara rimlig) men att själva 
kapitalskulden växer osar lurendrejeri! En annan sak angående den skulden är 
att den i dag, 2003, är på 5 300 skr + ränta 729,28 skr = 6 029,28 skr. 
Detta betyder att av de ca 2 500 skr kronofogdemyndigheten drar av mig varje 
månad så har, på 5,5 år, 6 866,72 skr gått till denna skuld (skulden skulle 
egentligen idag vara på 8 848 – 6 866,72 = 1 981,28 skr och inte 6 029,28). 
Det blir alltså 104 kr i månaden! Då kan man naturligtvis fråga sig var de 
andra pengarna tagit vägen för som vi kan se så har de inte gått till mina 
skulder. Alla de skulder jag har finns på kronofogdemyndigheten. Deras 
skyldighet, med alla de pengar de drar av mig, är att se till att alla 
skulder betalas (och att det sker med en gnutta förstånd, hyresskulden 
skulle ha kunnat vara betald för flera år sedan). Men som det ser ut verkar 
de har stoppat dessa pengar i sina egna fickor. Min orsak till att komma med 
detta påstående kommer jag att ta upp senare i detta brev.

Jag har under alla dessa år betalat mellan 400 000 – 500 000 skr. Kvar är 
skulder på ca 250 000 skr. En sådan hög summa hade jag inte 1989.

En annan räkning som jag har och som också finns hos kronofogdemyndigheten 
är från telefonbolaget Telia. Detta är en katastrofräkning på 30456.00 skr 
(Datum, 2003-02-26).

I Sverige är det känt att folk har fått mycket höga telefonräkningar trots 
att de inte har använt telefonen. Den summan på 30456.00 skr jag har fått 
kan jag inte acceptera. Tyvärr kan ingen vinna över Telia – maffian - då de 
stöds av svenska myndigheter.

Som jag har nämnt tidigare angående kronofogdemaffian så verkar det som om 
de har stoppat mina pengar i sina egna fickor. Orsaken till mitt påstående 
kommer jag att förklara här. Under många år har jag betalat oerhörda summor 
till kronofogdemyndigheten och fortfarande är inte mina skulder betalda. När 
jag gjorde ett snabbt överslag av mina skulder fann jag att jag hade betalat 
in alldeles för mycket. Jag skrev då ett brev till kronofogdemyndigheten (se 
bilaga 1) där jag bad om kopior på vilka företag jag haft/har en skuld till, 
samt hur stor summan är/har varit. Räntan skulle specificeras. Detta brev 
lämnade jag personligen till kronofogdemyndigheten, till en kvinna vi namn 
Yvonne Karlsson, 2002-09-04. Några dagar senare fick jag ett annat brev från 
en kvinna vid namn Åsa Gunnarsson daterat 2002-09-04. Jag trodde då att det 
kanske var ett svar på min förfrågan men så var inte fallet. Jag skickade då 
även min förfrågan till henne. Jag har fortfarande inte fått något svar på 
mitt brev. Däremot har jag fått dessa papper från dem 2002-12-10 (bilaga 2) 
och 2003-01-14 (bilaga 3). Jag vill bara ta upp här vad 
kronofogdemyndigheten skriver i sitt brev från 2003-01-14, mer än 4 månader 
efter mitt brev som de inte orkat svara på:

Ni har tidigare underrättats om nedan förtecknade skulder. Eftersom ni inte 
har betalt, avser kronofogdemyndigheten att pröva om utmätning av er lön, 
pension m.m. kan ske. Utmätning av lön innebär att avdrag görs på er lön, 
pension m.m. hos arbetsgivaren eller försäkringskassan så att skulden blir 
betald.

För att kronofogdemyndigheten skall kunna bedöma hur stort avdrag som kan 
göras, är det viktigt – för er egen skull – att ni fyller i och skickar 
bifogade blankett till kronofogdemyndigheten senast den 30 januari 2003 
(använd svarskuvertet) Det går också bra att lämna uppgifterna per telefon.

Vill ni undvika att lön, pension m.m. tas i anspråk måste ni betala hela 
skulden omgående.

För ytterligare upplysningar kan ni vända er till kronofogdemyndigheten.

Handläggs av Yvonne Karlsson

Tala om fräckhet! Här har jag kontaktat dem upprepade gånger men de har inte 
ens orkat svara på mina förfrågningar. Sedan har de mage att skicka ett 
sådant papper som detta. Varje månad drar kronofogdemyndigheten 2 500 skr av 
min pension. Hur länge tänker de fortsätta med sin utsugning? Enligt ett 
utdrag ur kronofogdemyndighetens databas daterat 2002-12-10 (bilaga 2) har 7 
660 skr av mina pengar gått till att betala skulder. Då frågar jag, var har 
de andra pengarna tagit vägen?? De skulder som kronofogdemyndigheten nämner 
i sitt papper (bilaga 3) är skulder som redan finns hos dem och som de skall 
fördela mina 2 500 skr till, varje månad. Här är det inget tal om att inte 
betala när de drar pengar av mig just för att de skall göra just detta. Märk 
också att denna kvinna är densamma som jag gav brevet till i september 
månad, och som jag fortfarande inte fått svar på.

Detta är det svar jag gav kronofogdemyndigheten:

Ni har under åtskilliga år gjort avdrag på min lön och sedemera min pension. 
Nu visar det sig att ni kräver pengar för en skuld till SE-banken som redan 
är betald. Jag har även varit i kontakt med SE-banken som bekräftar att jag 
inte längre har någon skuld till dem. Som jag nämnt har ni under en mycket 
lång tid gjort avdrag på min inkomst. Ändå, skall jag enligt er, ha ett 
flertal skulder kvar att betala. Som ett exempel vill jag nämna en mycket 
gammal skuld till Landskronahem som fortfarande inte är betald. Allt detta 
får mig naturligtvis att undra var denna, under årens lopp, stora summa som 
ni har dragit har tagit vägen.

Jag har tidigare bett er att skicka papper på alla mina skulder och alla de 
utbetalningar som gjorts under alla dessa år. Men fast jag upprepande gånger 
har bett er att skicka dessa papper har ni underlåtit att göra detta. Ert 
ointresse och okänslighet för mitt fall ger mig ingen annan möjlighet an att 
föra vidare min klagan till Europadomstolen.

Jag ser ingen anledning att svara på era frågor när ni själva nonchalerar 
mina upprepande förfrågningar.

Jag har, inte överraskande, inte fått något svar på detta brev. Jag har rätt 
att få svar – jag har rätt att få redovisning - men inget har jag har fått. 
De håller tyst men vill stjäla pengar från mig livet ut och det kan jag inte 
acceptera.

Under samma tid, 2002-09-09, besökte jag även skattemyndigheten där jag 
också lämnade ett brev. Inte heller från dem fick jag något svar. 2003-01-28 
var jag igen hos skattemyndigheten för att ge dem brevet ännu en gång och 
fråga varför jag inte fått svar. Kvinnan jag pratade med sade att jag skulle 
ta upp detta med kronofogdemyndigheten istället eftersom de inte hade med 
detta att göra. Jag sade då till henne att eftersom det är de som betalar ut 
mina skattepengar till kronofogden så har jag rätt att få svar på mitt brev 
och en redovisning över de utbetalningar de gjort. Hon sade då att hon kunde 
ge mig uppgifter för de senaste 10 åren, men inte längre bak i tiden. De 
papper jag fick av henne är dessa. Dagen efter kom denna datorutskrift.

Jag lämnade också ett brev till försäkringskassan, 2002-09-06, eftersom här 
finns det starkaste beviset på hur mycket som har betalats ut till 
kronofogdemyndigheten men fast jag hade rätt att få svar fick jag inget. 
Efter flera månaders väntan gick jag den 2003-01-28 igen till 
försäkringskassan för att lämna samma brev. Jag talade då också med högste 
chefen Olle Guldstrand. Jag visade honom breven till försäkringskassan, 
kronofogdemyndigheten och skattemyndigheten och frågade honom varför jag 
inte fått svar på mina frågor. Jag sade också att jag tänkte stämma 
kronofogdemyndigheten till Europadomstolen och också skattemyndigheten och 
försäkringskassan för deras samarbete med kronofogdemyndigheten i denna 
stöld. Jag sade till honom att det inte kan vara rätt att först betala 400 
000 skr – 500 000 skr under dessa år på en sammanlagd skuld av ca 90 000 skr 
och ändå ha en skuld kvar som är högre nu än då. Jag sade också till honom 
att det var försäkringskassans ansvar att kontrollera hur mycket pengar som 
betalas ut och till vad. Olle Guldstrand sade då att kronofogdemyndigheten 
skickar papper och dokument och bestämmer hur mycket som skall dras, sedan 
gör försäkringskassan som de vill. När de gällde svaren på mina frågor sade 
han att det skulle jag ha fått och att jag hade rätt att kräva det. Han sade 
att jag skulle få uppgifter från dem snarast möjligt men att jag inte kunde 
få längre än 10 år tillbaka i tiden eftersom uppgifterna sedan försvinner 
(vilket är något som låter märkligt och som jag inte kan förstå). Inte 
överraskande bröt Olle Guldstrand sitt löfte och jag har således inte hört 
något ifrån honom eller fått några papper från försäkringskassan.

Under denna tid, när jag hade skrivit till kronofogdemyndigheten, 
skattemyndigheten och försäkringskassan och inte fått svar, blev jag 
naturligtvis orolig och försökte få juridisk hjälp.

Jag kontaktade och besökte flera advokater. Vissa var inte alls 
intresserade, andra krävde 10, 12, 15 000 kr i förskott vilket jag, med min 
låga inkomst, naturligtvis aldrig skulle kunna betala. Till slut hittade jag 
en advokat som var villig att hjälpa mig. När jag träffade advokat Johan 
Sjöström på advokatfirman Andersson & Sjöström, Parkgatan 2, 261 31 
Landskrona, visade jag honom de tre brev jag skrivit till dessa tre 
maffiakompanjoner och berättade i korta drag hur stora skulder jag haft från 
början, hur många år de dragit pengar från mig och hur höga skulder jag hade 
nu. Johan Sjöström var mycket positiv till fallet, tyckte själv att det jag 
hade betalat var för mycket, och skulle hjälpa mig. Jag var dock först 
tvungen att betala ett förskott på 1 500 skr till honom. Vi bestämde att vi 
skulle träffas 2002-10-16 då jag också skulle betala förskottet. När vi 
träffades igen överlämnade jag några viktiga dokument till honom plus det 
begärda förskottet. Han var fortfarande positiv till mitt fall och upprepade 
att jag hade betalat för mycket. Han skulle således börja arbeta med mitt 
fall omedelbart och kontakta kronofogdemyndigheten, skattemyndigheten och 
försäkringskassan. Han skulle sedan återkomma till mig snarast möjligt. 
Efter 2-3 veckor hade jag fortfarande inte hört något från Johan Sjöström 
och var därför tvungen att själv kontakta honom. När jag talade med honom 
per telefon var han inte lika positiv till fallet. Han sade att han hade 
kontaktat dem men fortfarande inte hört något från dem. Han nämnde 
emellertid något om ränta på ränta. Jag sade då till honom att eftersom 
varken han eller jag hade fått något svar från de berörda myndigheterna så 
ville jag att vi skulle stämma dem i tingsrätten. Han sade att i ett sådant 
här fall kunde man inte göra det. Det fanns ingen lag för ett sådant fall. 
Jag undrade då hur det kan vara så att det inte finns en lag som gör det 
möjligt för mig att stämma dem när de finns lagar som gör att de kan stämma 
mig. Han sade att det var en annan lag. Han sade också att vi skulle vänta 
och att han skulle kontakta dem igen. Jag väntade på ett svar från Johan 
Sjöström ända tills december månad, då jag kontaktade honom igen. Han sade 
till mig att han hade fått brev från kronofogdemyndigheten och att han 
skulle skicka detta till mig. Jag väntade på detta nya brev från 
kronofogdemyndigheten men inget kom. I början av januari månad ringde jag 
således till Johan Sjöström. Jag fick svaret att han hade skickat brevet 
till mig. Men det enda han hade skickat mig var de kopior jag tidigare gett 
honom. Jag sade igen till Johan Sjöström att jag ville stämma 
kronofogdemyndigheten, försäkringskassan och skattemyndigheten men han var 
lika kritisk till det som förra gången. Jag bad då honom, då han var min 
advokat, att ge förslag på vad jag skulle göra. Han sade då att han inte 
kunde göra mer för de pengar jag betalat honom (fast han hade inte gjort 
något för dem vilket jag också sade till honom) och att jag inte heller hade 
så mycket pengar att betala honom och att jag skulle veta att det inte fanns 
någon advokater i Sverige som kunde hjälpa mig med mitt fall. Jag sade då 
till Johan Sjöström att min enda möjlighet då är att personligen stämma 
dessa tre till Europadomstolen vilket låter sig göras om detta är en 
demokratisk, solidarisk och rättvis domstol. Min personliga uppfattning är 
att denna advokat har blivit köpt av dessa maffiamyndigheter.

Jag vänder mig således till Europadomstolen för att få hjälp att straffa 
dessa svenska myndigheters kriminella handlingar och därtill även att de 
betalar tillbaka de pengar de stulit av mig samt ränta och skadestånd. Det 
är inte meningen att de skall stjäla hundratusentals kronor av mig och sedan 
förvänta sig att jag skall fortsätta betala till den dag jag dör. Jag och 
min familj har under många år fått lida både psykiskt och ekonomiskt på 
grund av deras övergrepp. Jag kräver således ett skadestånd på 1 (en) miljon 
kronor plus ränta. Och eftersom västvärlden kallas för ett demokratiskt, 
rättvist och solidariskt samhälle vill jag att ni skall visa er demokrati. 
Detta utsugande av fattiga och sjuka måste stoppas och de ansvariga 
kriminella måste straffas. Som domstol räknar jag med att ni kan få fram 
alla bevis och fakta från dessa kriminella. Jag önskar att detta fall tas 
upp snarast möjligt, att de skyldiga straffas och mitt skadestånd betalas 
ut.

Tyvärr är det många gånger så att västmedia predikar rättvisa och 
solidaritet men bakom stängda dörrar finns kriminaliteten. Här i Sverige ser 
man varje dag på tv och läser i tidningar att invandrare är kriminella. Nu 
ser vi dock vem som egentligen är kriminell. Vi invandrare behandlas som 
tredje klassens medborgare, efter djuren. Detta håller media tyst om 
istället för att berätta sanningen om den västerländska ”rättvisan” och 
”solidariteten”.

Vad jag har upplevt i min kontakt med olika myndigheter är deras liknöjdhet 
och ointresse. Att något är fel kan vem som helst förstå, en skuld på 45 000 
skr 1987, kan inte efter 16 års betalning var uppe i 57 556 skr. Man behöver 
inte vara speciellt intelligent för att räkna ut detta. Tyvärr är det så att 
när jag har kontaktat myndigheterna så har de inte ens velat kontrollera 
detta. Det finns alltså inget sätt för mig att få fram sanningen då de som 
arbetar där antingen är liknöjda eller inblandade. Men jag vägrar fortsätta 
att bli avlurad 30 000 - 40 000 skr varje år livet ut och acceptera att mina 
skulder blir högre och högre Därför vänder jag mig till er som en sista 
chans att få rättvisa. Jag accepterar inte ett brev där ni skriver att ni 
inte kan göra någonting, då det är ert ansvar att hjälpa mig.

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02-09-04

Kronofogdemyndigheten, Sektion 14



Jag skriver till Er angående mina skulder och de avdrag ni har gjort på min 
lön, och senare min pension, under många år. Även mina Skattpengar har gått 
till att betala dessa skulder Vad jag tycker är anmärkningsvärt är att fast 
Ni har erhållit dessa, Sammanlagt stora summar, Så är jag fortfarande ej 
skuldfri. Detta är en ekvationsom inte går ihop.


Jag vill att Ni skickar mig kopior på vilka företag jag har / harhaft en 
skuld till amt hur stor summan är / har varit, exklusive ränta. Räntan skall 
specificeras. Jag vill också veta hur mycket pengar Ni har erhållit från mig 
från den dag Ni började göra avdrag samt behålla min överskjutande skatt.

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02-09-06

Försäkringskassan, Landskrona



Jag skriver till Er angående de avdrag till Kronofogdemyndigheten som har 
gjorts på min sjukersättning och senare min pension under flera år.

Jag vill att Ni skickar mig papper på den sammanlagda summa som har betalats 
ut till kronofogdemyndigheten från den dag avdragen började göras.

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02-09-09

Skattemyndigheten, Landskrona

Jag skriver till Er angående den överskjutande skatt som har betalats ut 
till Kronofogdemyndigheten under flera år.

Jag vill att Ni skickar mig papper på den sammanlagda summa som har betalats 
ut till Kronofogdemyndigheten från det år avdragen började göras.

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KRONOFOGDEMYNDIGHETEN
SEKTION  14
BOX 205
261 23 LANDSKRONA
Telefon: 0418-549 00
Telefax: 0418-549 14
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Postgiro E-mål: 22 18 99-8
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Ni har tidigare underrättats om nedan förtecknade skulder. Eftersom ni inte 
har betalat, avser kronofogdemyndigheten att pröva om utmätning av er lön, 
pension m.m. hos arbetsgivaren eller försäkringskassan så att skulden blir 
betald.

För att kronofogdemyndigheten skall kunna bedöma hur stort avdrag som kan 
göras, är det viktigt – för er egen skull – att ni fyller i och skickar 
bifogade blankett till kronofogdemyndigheten senast den 30 januari 2003 
(använd svarskuvertet) Det går också bro att lämna uppgifterna per telefon.

För ytterligare upplysningar kan ni vända er till kronofogdemyndigheten.


Handläggs av

YVONNE  KARLSSON


Svor från Xxxxxxx Xxxxxxxxx med fylld bifogade blankett till 
kronofogdemyndigheten i Landskronakontoret den 03-01-23.


Kronofogdemyndigheten
för inkomstförhållanden m.m.
YVONNE  KARLSSON
0418-54909

REDOGÖRELSE
LANDSKRONAKONTORET

Personnummer
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Ni har fått en underrättelse om ifrågasatt av lön. Kan Ni inte betala nu 
måste NI fylla i uppgifterna i blanketten och skicka den till 
kronofogdemyndigheten. Uppgifterna kan också lämnas par telefon.

Familjeförhållanden

Ni har under åtskilliga år gjort avdrag på min lön och sedemera min pension. 
Ni visar det sig att ni kräver pengar för en skuld till SE-banken som redan 
är betald. Jag har även varit i kontakt med SE-banken som bekräftar att jag 
inte längre har någon skuld till dem. Som jag nämnt har ni under en mycket 
lång tid gjort avdrag på min inkomst. Ändå skall jag, enlig er, ha ett 
flertal skulder kvar att betala.

Som ett exempel vill jag nämna en mycket gammal skuld till Landskronahem som 
förfarande inte är betald.
Allt detta får mig naturligtvis att undra var denna, under årens lopp, stora 
summa som ni dragit har tagit vägen.
Jag har tidigare bett är att skicka papper på alla mina skulder och alla de 
utbetalningar som gjorts under alla dessa år. Men fast jag upprepande gånger 
har bett er att skicka dessa papper har ni underlagt att göra detta. Ert 
ointresse och okänslighet för min fall ger mig ingen annan möjlighet än att 
föra vidare min ligan till Europadomstolen.
Jag ser ingen anledning att svara på era frågor när ni själva nonchalerar 
mina upprepande för frågningar.

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KRONOFOGDEMYNDIGHETEN
SEKTION   22
SELMA LAGERLÖFS   VÖG 3
BOX 205
261 23 LANDSKRONA
Telefon: 0418-549 00
Telefax: 0418-549 14
Expeditionstid: 0800 - 1600
Postgiro E-mål: 432 00 11-2
UNDERRÄTTELSE OM MÖL

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2003-03-12

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Ni har tidigare underrättas om skulden som anges nedan. Skulden har ännu 
inte betalas. Sökanden har nu begärt att handläggningstiden skall förlängs 
(förnyelseansökan( och / eller kompletterande tillgångsundersökning (se 
begärd åtgärd).
Kronofogdemyndigheten kan därför komma att vidta ytterligare åtgärder om ni 
inte betalar eller visar att ni har betalt.

Diarienummer: U-20469-02/1220
Målets ankomstdag: 2002-04-24

Sökande: HOIST KREDIT AB
BOX 7848
103 99 STOCKHOLM

Telefon: 08-55517700
Postgiro: 4877001-0
Ref: 127573

Sökanden åberopar:
Lagsökningsutslag
MALMÖ TINGSRÄTT
1989-07-04

Kapital m.m.
Ränta Räntesats %

Kapital 44 349  13 297  12,10

Summa skuld per 2003-03-13  57 556

Ytterligare ränta kan tillkomma.



FROM: Mats Hildeby redacted@advokatsamfundet.se
DATE: Mon, 7 Apr 2003 09:11:35 +0200
TO: "'redacted@xxxx-xxx.com'"  redacted@xxxx-xxx.com
SUBJECT: SV:

Ditt e-postmeddelande den 4 april 2003 åberopas. Om Du är missnöjd med 
advokat har Du möjlighet att hos Advokatsamfundet göra en disciplinanmälan 
mot den advokat Du är missnöjd med och genom sk. disciplinförfarande få 
prövat om advokaten handlat i överensstämmelse med god advokatsed. Anmälan 
måste vara undertecknad av Dig. Det går inte att göra anmälan per e-post. I 
övrigt har Advokatsamfundet inga möjligheter att hjälpa Dig med Dina 
problem.

Med vänlig hälsning

Mats Hildeby


-----Ursprungligt meddelande-----

Från: Xxxxxxx Xxxxxxxxxx-Xxxxxxxx [mailto:redacted@xxxx-xxx.com]
Skickat: den 4 april 2003 21:12
Ämne:



A D V O K A T  F R I R M A N
Andersson & Sjöström

Landskona 2003-04-10

Advokaten Bertil Andersson
Advokaten Johan Sjöström

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Jag tillskriver Dig med anledning av de kopior Du översänt till mig på mail 
til advokatsamfundet och Europadomstolen.

Jag inte delar Din beskrivning av min hantering av Dit ärenden.

Jag har varit i kontakt med Dig vid sju tillfällen efter vårt 
sammanträffande. Jag har efter sammanträffandet haft dels kontakt med 
kronofogdemyndigheten, dels de borgenärer som sökt utmätning mot Dig. Vidare 
har jag granskat de handlingar som Du översänt till mig angående de krav som 
riktas mot Dig.

Min bedömning, vilken jag vid två tillfällen delgivit Dig per telefon, har 
sedan varit att jag inte ser någon möjlighet för Dig till framgång genom att 
väcka talan mot de borgenärer och myndigheter som Du framfört önskemål om. 
Tyvärr är det nog så att de borgenärer som begärt utmätning hos Dig har 
lagligt rätt till detta och att detta grundar sig på korrekta utslag.


Med vänlig hälsning


Johan Sjöström




FROM: "Stockholm European Parliament" <redacted@europarl.eu.int>
DATE: Tue, 08 Apr 2003 15:53:15 +0200
TO: "vmro-mnm" <redacted@vmro-mnm.com>
SUBJECT: Information

Hej,
Om du anser dig ha blivit felaktigt eller orättvist behandlad av någon 
myndighet kan du vända dig till justitieombudsmannen, de tar dock endast 
emot skrifliga klagomål. Du kan läsa om vilka typer av ärenden de behandlar 
och om information om dess verksamhet på nedanstående webbplats, www.jo.se
Jag såg dock att de inte behandlar ärenden som är äldre än två år gamla, 
därför rekommenderar jag dig att ringa dem och fråga vart du kan vända dig 
för att få hjälp. Deras telefonnummer är 08-786 51 00 och telefontiden är 
vardagar mellan 9-15
Här är information om kontaktvägar till JO:

Adress: Riksdagensombudsmän
Box16327
10326Stockholm.
E-post: redacted@riksdagen.se
Fax:08-216558
Webbplats: www.jo.se

Hoppas att du får den hjälp du behöver där

___________________________________________________

Europaparlamentets kontor / European Parliament office
Nybrogatan 11, 3 tr.
S-114 39  STOCKHOLM
Sweden
tel. +46-8-562 444 55
fax: +46-8-562 444 99
e-mail:
redacted@europarl.eu.int
redacted@europarl.se
http://www.europarl.se




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OF

H U M A N R I G H T S


COUNCIL OF EUROPÉ
STRASBOURG


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28 april 2003

ECHR-Pswe0
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Vår ref.: 13585/03
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Kansliet för Europadomstolen för de mänskliga rättigheterna har mottagit Ert 
brev av den 2 april 2003 med bilagor, av vilket framgår att Ni önskar inge 
ett klagomål till domstolen.
Ärenden har getts ovan nämnda referensnummer. Ni skall hänvisa till detta 
nummer i fortsatt korrespondens.

Bifogat finner Ni en kopia av den europeiska konventionen om de mänskliga 
rättigheterna och dess protokoll (innehållande bland annat artiklarna 34 och 
35 i konventionen där kraven för ingivande av ett klagomål samt villkoren 
för upptagande av detsamma framgår), reglerna 45 och 47 i domstolens 
arbetsordning (utvisande vissa formella krav som måste uppfyllas och vilken 
uppgifter ett individuellt klagomål till domstolen måste innehålla) samt en 
anvisning (vilken sammanfattar de kriterier som gäller för domstolens 
prövning). Vidare bifogas ett klagoformulär, med en förklarande handledning, 
som bör användas för ett formellt klagomål om – och endast om – Ni efter en 
noggrann genomgång av de ovan nämnda dokumenten finner att Ert ärende 
uppfyller alla tillämpliga kriterier.

I detta sammanhang bör Ni observera att dagen för klagomålets 
anhängiggörande normalt anses vara dagen för det första brevet Ni insände, 
om detta brev anger huvuddragen i klagomålet och om relevanta dokument, 
inklusive klagoformuläret, insändes till domstolen utan dröjsmål. Om så inte 
sker, riskerar Ni att klagomålet anses inkommet vid en senare tidpunkt än 
det första brev till domstolen. Detta påverkar i sin tur bedömningen 
huruvida klagomålet har anförts i rätt tid, dvs. inom den i konventionens 
artikel 35 angivna sexmånadersfristen. Denna frist räknas från den dagen då 
Ni eller Ert ombud fick kännedom om den nationella domstolens eller 
myndighetens slutliga beslut.

Om Ni anser at Ert ärende uppfyller de tillämpliga kriterierna skall Ni 
fylla i klagoformuläret tydligt, fullstädigt och noggrant då det kommer att 
ligga till grund för domstolens bedömning. Till formuläret skall kopior av 
alla relevanta dokument bifogas, särskilt domar och beslut från inhemska 
domstolar eller myndigheter som Ni önskar klaga över inför domstolen. Nämnda 
dokumentation bör vara sådan att den utvisar att alla inhemska rättsmedel är 
uttömda i enlighet med artikel 35 & 1 i konventionen. Ni bör inte sända 
originalhandlingar då dessa ej kommer att återsändas till Er. Underlåtenhet 
att inkomma med relevant information kommer att resultera i att domstolen 
anslår Ert klagomål utan ytterligare förvarning.

I vilket fall som helst, om Ni skulle besluta att inte fullfölja talan eller 
om Ni inte besvarar detta brev eller något annat brev från domstolen kansli 
inom ett år från dess expediering, kommer Ert klagomål att anses våra 
återkallat och akten i ärendet kommer att förstöras.

Kanslichefen


Bol. Konvention och protokoll
          Anvisningar
          Klagoformulär och handledning
          Fullmaktsformulär (för juridiskt ombud)



BESLUT

Datum

2003-04-29

Dnr
1453-2003

-JO-

Justitieombudsmannen
Anna-Karin Lundin

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Er anmälan mot kronofogdemyndigheten m.fl.

Ni har till JO översänt en kopia av ett brev ställt till den europeiska 
domstolen för de mänskliga rättigheterna. I brevet har Ni klagat på 
kronofogdemyndighetens handläggning av ett mål om utmätning och anfört bl.a. 
att Era skulder ökat trots att utmätning under lång tid ägt rum av Er lön 
och pension.

Det som framgår av den skift som Ni skickat till JO är för allmänt hållet 
för att jag skall kunna inleda en utredning eller vidta någon annan åtgärd.

Ni har möjlighet att lämna en ny anmälan med mer preciserade uppgifter.

Beslut

Jag kommer inte att utreda Er anmälan.

Anna-Karin Lundin

Ingrid Åhman



REGERINGSKANSLIET

2003-06-06

HP 49 Y

Utrikesdepartementet
enheten för folkrätt, mänskliga rättigheter
och traktaträtt (FMR)

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Utrikesdepartementet mottog den 4 juli 2003 ett e-postmeddelande utfärdat i 
Ditt namn som bl.a. Innehåller texten till en skivelse ställd till 
Europadomstolen för de mänskliga rättigheterna i Strasbourg. Av meddelandet 
framgår inte om det rör sig om en kopia av en skivelse som även ingivits 
till domstolen, eller om avsikten är att den av Utrikesdepartementet skall 
vidarebefordras dit.

Jag skriver därför till Dig för att klargöra att klagomål mot Sverige inför 
Europadomstolen för de mänskliga rättigheterna skall inges direkt till 
domstolen kansli och inte vidarebefordras dit om de inställt inges till 
Utrikesdepartementet eller någon annan del av regeringskansliet.
Utrikesdepartementet har därför inte vidtagit några åtgärder med anledning 
av Ditt e-postmeddelande utan förutsätter att Du själv på lämpligt sätt 
ombesörjt att skrivelsen nått avsedd adressat.

Jag bifogar informationsmaterial beträffande förfarandet enligt 
Europakonventionen


Med vänliga hälsningar


Mattias Falk
Ämnessakkunnig




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OF

H U M A N R I G H T S


COUNCIL OF EUROPÉ
STRASBOURG


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FJÄRDE AVDELNINGEN

24 juni 2003

ECHR-Lswel.1
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Mål nr 13585/03
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Jag har mottagit Era brev med bilagor vilka ankom till domstolen den 13 maj, 
16 maj samt 28 maj 2003.

Domstolen kommer att behandla klagomålet så snart som möjligt på grundval av 
den information och de handlingar Ni inkommit med. Förfarandet är i princip 
skriftigt och Ni kommer inte att behöva inställa Er personligen såvida inte 
domstolen särskilt kallar Er. Ni kommer att underrättas om domstolens 
beslut.

Ni skall meddela mig eventuell adressändring. I den mån nya omständigheter 
som rör klagomålet tillkommer, skall Ni upplysa domstolen därom inkomma med 
kopior av relevanta avgöranden av domstolar och myndigheter.


Med vänlig hälsning
På kanslichefens vägnar


Anders Månsson
Rättssekreterare


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Pers nr. XXXXXX-XXXX
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SVERIGE

Tel: + 46 418 XX XX XX
Mobitel: + 46 70 XXXXXXX

25 juni 2003

Till Europeiska domstolen för de mänskliga rättigheterna i Strasbourg – 
Frankrike!?

Mina problem i detta nazistiska, fascistiska, kriminella och maffia svenska 
samhället fortsätter. Jag får fortfarande kravbrev från maffia inkasso att 
jag skulle betala skulder och jag är fortfarande skuldregistrerad hos maffia 
kronofogdemyndigheten.

Nu i sista månaderna jag har mycket problem med min fru och vi ska separera 
just på grund av antidemokratiska svenska samhället. Jag började söka egen 
lägenhet och flytta från min familj. Jag har sökt många företag som hyr ut 
lägenheter, vissa företag sa till mig att lägenheterna är upptagna men när 
jag kollade deras Internet hemsidor är lägenheterna fortfarande lediga, 
detta beror att jag är utlänning så jag har inte fått lägenhet. Vissa 
företag som hyr ut lägenheter har gjort kontroll en kreditupplysning i 
Stockholm i kreditupplysnings papper står det att jag fortfarande har 
skulder. Tack för de kvarstående skulderna och kronofogdemyndigheternas 
register de företagen som vill hyra ut lägenhet till mig kan inte godkänna 
eftersom jag har gamla skulder och kronofogderegister.  Detta är mycket stor 
och allvarlig kränkliga och diskrämnäring. Svenska myndigheterna som har 
kränkt och diskrämnäring och har det gjort grovt kriminell mot min ekonomi 
och min mycket dåliga hälsa jag kan inte låta de in fortsättning att 
diskriminera mina mänskliga rättligheter. Så jag kräver av er att kontakta 
med svenska myndigheterna och säga till de att omedelbart ta bort gamla 
skulder och kronofogdemyndigheternas skuld register.
Ni i ert brev av den 28 april skriver detta:  (I vilket fall som helst, om 
Ni skulle besluta att inte fullfölja talan eller om Ni inte besvarar detta 
brev eller något annat brev från domstolen kansli inom ett år från dess 
expediering, kommer Ert klagomål att anses våra återkallat och akten i 
ärendet kommer att förstöras). Ni vet att jag inte kan acceptera detta som 
ni har skrivit. Ni vet att svenska myndigheter har stulit hundratusentals 
skr av mig. Så jag kräver igen så fort som möjligt att ha mina stulna pengar 
åter betalas med skadestånd på en miljon skr och ränta. Om jag inte har fått 
mitt rättighetskrav inom trettio dagar, så kommer jag att skriva 
påminnelsebrev till er med ränta på ränta. Om ni inte accepterar detta eller 
inte straffar kriminella myndigheter så jag är tvungen att provocera att 
söka en annan väg att få mina stulna pengar tillbacka. När era Väst europa 
(Väst vård) företags chefer, direktörer och politiker fuskar med miljard 
tals kr, dollar, euro mm för att inte betala skatt, de fuskar att få 
miljontals ersättningar, pension och mm. Så vanliga folket har också rätt 
att kräva sina rättigheter från antidemokratiska väst vård samhälle och 
västvärldens biockratiska kriminella gubbar.

Jag är mycket ledsen besviken och arg på västvärldens antidemokratiskt, 
biockratiskt och kriminella samhälle.


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Letter from the CVRIA Court of First Instance of the European Communities


CVRIA  Europeiska gemenskapernas förstainstansrätt

LUXEMBOURG

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Sverige

Bäste Xxxxxxx Xxxxxxxxx!
Justitiesekreteraren vid Europeiska gemenskapernas förstainstansrätt 
bekräftar härmed mottagandet av Ert e-mail av den 4 april 2003.

Jag vill redan här nämna, att  förstainstansrätten endast är rätt instans 
för handläggning av mål mellan privatpersoner (fysiska eller juriska) och en 
av gemenskapens instutitioner. Fysiska eller juridiska personer kan inte 
anhängiggöra ett mål i förstainstansrätten mot beslut eller åtgärder tagna 
av nationella myndigheter i en medlemsstat. Inte heller kan domar och beslut 
av nationella domstolar upphävas eller ändras av förstainstansrätten.

Er uppmärksamhet riktas vidare på de formella krav på en ansökan som måste 
vara uppfyllda enligt förstainstansrättens rättegångsregler.

För att kunna anhängiggöra en ansökan hos förstainstansrätten, måste 
sökandet vara representerad av en advokat som har rätt att uppträda i en 
medlemsstats domstol (Artikel 43.1 i förstainstansrättens rättegångsregler). 
En ansökan som inte är undertecknad av en advokat kan inte registreras.

Med anledning av ovanstående, beklagar justitiesekreteraren att 
förstainstansrätten inte kan behandla Ert brev.


Luxembourg, 24 juni 2003

CVRIA

H. Jung
Justitiesekreterare


Bil. Europeiska Gemenskapernas Domstol och förstainstansrätt.


BROTTSOFFERMYNDIGHETEN
Rotel 2

2003-07-11

Dnr A5460/2003
AB 2

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Angående Din anmälan mot kronofogdemyndigheten m.fl.

Brottsoffermyndigheten har tagit emot kopia av Din anmälan med tillhörande 
handlingar ställd till Europadomstolen.

Handlingarna föranleder ingen åtgärd.


Hans Sjölander


HÖGSTA DOMSTOLEN

Administrativa enheten



Adnr 273-03



2003-07-23

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Högsta domstolen bekräftar härmed att vi har mottagit Dina skrivelser via 
e-post den 14 juli 2003 samt den 20 juli 2003.
Skrivelserna föranleder ingen åtgärd.

Som ovan

Karin Jonsson
Tf kanslichef





KAMMARRÄTTEN
I STOCKHOLM


Till AdmD-310-2003

2003-07-24



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Det bekräftas härmed att Kammarrätten i Stockholm har tagit emot ett 
e-postmeddelande från Er.

Er skrivelse föranleder, utöver denna bekräftelse, inte någon ytterligare 
åtgärd från kammarrättens sida utan läggs till handlingarna.


Med vänlig hälsning


Per Holstad
administrativ



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CONSEIL DE L´EUROPÉ
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OF

H U M A N R I G H T S


COUNCIL OF EUROPÉ
STRASBOURG


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FJÄRDE AVDELNINGEN

17 juli 2003

ECHR-LSwe0.1
AM/za

Mål nr 13585/03
XXXXXXXX mot Sverige


Jag har mottagit Era brev vilka ankom till domstolen den 24 samt 30 juni, 7 
samt 8 juli 2003 med bifogade handlingar.

Dessa har lagts in i den akt som gäller ovannämnda mål.


Med välig hälsning
På kanslichefens vägnar


Andres Månsson
Rättssekreterare





From: redacted@europe-direct.cec.eu.int
To:  redacted@hotmail.com
Subject: Reply from Europe Direct
Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 13:47:28 UT

Reference Number: 1502878

-36-C-08

Hej Xxxxxxx,

Vi har mottagit ditt e-brev, men EUROPE DIRECT är en informationsservice för 
den Europeiska kommissionen som ger medborgare och företag svar på allmänna 
frågor om Europeiska Unionen. Europeiska domstolen för mänskliga rättigheter 
tillhör
inte en av Europeiska Unionens institutioner. EUROPE DIRECT kan därför inte 
tillhandahålla den information du söker.

Information om Europeiska domstolen för mänskliga rättigheter kan fås på 
följande URL: http://www.echr.coe.int/

Om du i framtiden har ytterligare specifika frågor om Europeiska unionen, 
dess politikområden eller institutioner står vi mer än gärna till tjänst.


Med vänliga hälsningar,

EUROPE DIRECT

Var vänlig att notera att från och med 1 juni 2003 är EUROPE DIRECT 
tillgängligt via det unika gratis telefonnummret från alla EU-länder: 00800 
67891011 från och med måndag till fredag 09.00 till 18.30 centraleuropeisk 
tid.

Besök webbplatsen om Europas framtid http://europa.eu.int/futurum


MAIL SUBJECT: Brev till Europeiska domstolen för de mänskliga rättigheterna 
i Strasbourg OCH M
MAIL BODY: Brev till Europeiska domstolen för de mänskliga rättigheterna i 
Strasbourg–Cedex Frankrike!?
OCH MM....


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SVERIGE

Tel: + 46 418 XX XX XX
Mobitel: + 46 70 XXXXXXX

2003-04-02


Till Europadomstolen i Strasbourg

Jag skriver till er angående mina problem i detta nazistiska, fascistiska 
och kriminella, svenska samhälle. I detta land har jag utsatts för 
bedrägliga och kränkande handlingar av svenska kriminella myndigheter som 
stulit hundratusentals kronor av mig.

1987 öppnade jag ett företag. Jag lånade då 45 000 skr på SE-banken. Jag tog 
också lån på Nordbanken (+checkräkningskredit). Därutöver köpte jag 
kontorsmöbler på IKEA och kontorsmaterial på Gleerups, allt på faktura, mm.
Tyvärr gick inte företaget bra och för att kunna överleva var jag tvungen 
att avregistrera mitt företag. Hade jag bara hållit ut en månad till, då jag 
blev erbjuden ett arbete av ett stort byggnadsföretag i Sverige, hade min 
lycka varit gjord.

1988 började jag arbeta på ett slakteri. Jag började då också betala av på 
min skuld med 1 250 kr som automatiskt drogs från min lön varannan vecka.
Lite mer än ett år senare var min skuld på 45 000 skr till SE-banken betald 
- endast räntan återstod. Jag fortsatte då att betala 1
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1 augusti 2003



PÅMINNELSE



Till Europeiska domstolen för de mänskliga rättigheterna i Strasbourg – 
Frankrike!?



Det har gått över en månad när jag har skrivit mitt brev den 25 juni 2003 
efter två dagar har jag mottagit ett brev from Europeiska domstolen som er 
daterat 24 juni, 2003 ni har nämnt i ert brev att behandla mitt klagomål så 
snabbt som möjligt. Värkar att ni inte hålet ert löfte.

Jag kräver nu för min skadestånd på en miljon kr plus ränta och ränta på 
ränta.

Ni vet själv att en skadelse på en miljon plus ränta är lite pengar som jag 
har utsatts för de grova kränkningar, grov diskriminering och med högsta 
grad bedrägeri av svenska rasiskt och kriminella myndigheter och därför har 
jag rätt till att kräva skadestånd och straffas myndigheterna som kränker 
den mänskliga rättigheterna och de skulle åtalas för sina grova brott och 
bedrägeri.

När man är invandrare kränks av svenska kränkningarna så vi har rätt till 
att kräva våra rättigheter  i de domstolarna som är skyldiga att skydda 
folket som har blivit kränkt diskriminerad bestulit med massa pengar mm, 
från svenska kränkarna och kriminelle rättigheterna.

Om jag skulle ha gjort något kriminellt eller brott så skulle jag ha 
straffat omedelbart med fängelse med pengar med mera. Jag har blivit dömd 
utan att jag gjort något brott och utan bevis har de dömt mig med dagsböter.

Så därför Europeiska domstolen för de mänskliga rättigheterna skulle skydda 
och hjälpa det folket som är kränkta och diskriminerad, men skulle straffas 
de riktiga kränkarna och kriminella.



Jag är inte säker om jag har skickat till er kopia från försäkringskassan i 
Landskrona som jag har mottagit 2003-04-07 detta brev som försäkringskassan 
har skrivit på grund av mitt första brev som jag har skrivit till Europa 
domstolen, jag har skickat mitt brev till deras e-mail adress och personligt 
lämnade jag mitt brev till Europa domstolen till personen i resoptionen, 
därför har de svarat med brev men det är katastrof falsk och lögn (jag 
skickar kopia från deras brev). Jag skickar till är några kopior som jag hår 
hittat bland mina dokument, dom är besked om utbetalning om min Folkpension 
(BESKED om insättning från försäkringskassan i Landskrona). Och på dom 
besked dokumentena kommer at ni se hur mycket pengar från min Pensions 
basbelopp kronofogdmyndigheten hår fåt på flera år och året ut 
(AVDRAG-ÖVRIGT på många år och varje månad – 2968 kr hela året, - varje 
månad 2473 kr hela året, - varje månad 2500 kr hela året, och extra, extra, 
extra, extra).



Efter 11 månader fick jag första brev från stora kränkningar och stora 
kriminelle kronofogdmyndigheten i Landskrona. Kränkarna och stora kriminella 
har reagerat på grund



av mina brev som har skrivit till Europa domstolen och brev som jag har 
mottagit från Europa domstolen, annars skulle inte jag ha fått något brev 
från kränkarna och kriminella.



Kronofogdmyndigheterna i Landskrona har skickat brev till mig och de skriver 
att de skickat till mig uppgifter om efterfrågade betalningar till 
kronofogdmyndigheterna. De kränkarna och kriminella skriver till mig i 
brevet bifogat även en broschyr om skuldsanering. Jag förstår inte att de 
inte skäms för sina ord att jag skulle söka skuldsanering jag har redan 
överbetalt mina skulder. Jag har mottagit från kränkarna och kriminella 
uppgifter som är skrivna på 30 sidor jag kommer att skicka till er alla de 
kopiorna så ni kan läsa och kontrollera deras förfalskning och lögner detta 
är en katastrof att anti demokratiskt, rasistisk och kriminella myndigheter 
har så mycket makt att de gör som de vill.



Om Europa domstolen inte straffar svenska kränkarna och kriminella så kommer 
de dra pengar från mig livet ut. Och massa av att invandra folk kommer att 
drabbas på samma sätt och problem som jag har haft.

Nu är dags att Europa domstolen bedöma positivt mitt klagomål och utbetalas 
snarast som möjligt mitt krav på mitt skadestånd.



Alla de breven som jag har skrivit till Europa domstolen och jag som har 
mottagna brev från Europa domstolen och andra negativa brev som jag har 
mottagit från olika svenska myndighet har skickats som e-mail brev till 
olika organisationer och institut. Jag har också till rätt så många medier, 
men det värkar som de vägrar att skriva eller berätta om mina problem. Jag 
tror att alla medier runt hela världen är under väst världens biokratiska 
och kriminella myndigheter. De breven som skickat nu, i framtiden kommer 
alle de brevena tolkas på engelska språk och skickas igen som e-mail brev 
runt hela världen. De brevena kommer at skickats också till massa vanliga 
folk till deras e-mail adress.



Jag har skrivit i mitt förra brev att jag skulle separeras från min fru och 
har sökt lägenhet och har fortfarande inte fått. Jag blir mer och mer 
provocerad, arg, besviken och ledsen av detta antidemokratiska och 
rasistiska samhälle. Jag vet inte hur länge det ska gå på det viset men de 
har gått för långt och provocerat mig att jag är tvungen hitta en tom 
lägenhet göra sönder dörren, jag ville inte det skulle bli på det viset, då 
frågar jag er vad ska jag göra svara på mina frågor?



Jag känner mig kränkt och diskriminerad och jag hoppas att Europa domstolen 
omedelbart tar positivt beslut av mitt klagomål.



Jag är mycket besviken, arg, provocerad och besviken


Xxxxxxx Xxxxxxxxx





Försäkringskassan


Lokalkontoret i Landskrona
Christina Dohm Hansen, 0418-455308



2003-04-07



Personnr/diarienr

XXXXXX-XXXX



Xxxxxxx Xxxxxxxxx
Xxxxxxxx XXX X x xx
XXX XX LANDSKRONA

Svor på din skrivelse av den 6 september 2002.

Avdrag till kronofogden kar gjorts på din pensionsutbetalning from 1994 
enligt följande:

1993               0 kr
1994        6 995 kr
1995               0 kr
1996      10 100 kr
1997      13 000 kr
1998      uppgift saknas
1999      30 000 kr
2000      22 500 kr
2001               0 kr
2002        6 780 kr

Uppgift saknas om avdrag för november – december 1997 och för hela 1998.

Med vänlig hälsning

SKÅNE LÄNS ALLMÄNNA FÖRSÄKRINGSKASSA



Christina Dohm Hansen





Kronofogdemyndigheten


1250-08 Datum Dnr   2688-03/ORÄ

Susanne Svensson 042-17 44 82



2003-07-21



Xxxxxxx Xxxxxxxxx
Xxxxxxxx XXX X x xx
XXX XX LANDSKRONA


FÖR KÄNNEDOM


Kronofogdemyndigheten har upptagit er begäran om utplåning av uppgift i 
utsöknings – och indrivningsdatabasen till behandling.

Med vänlig hälsning

Susanne Svensson




Kronofogdemyndigheten


Landskronakontoret

Paul Blucher, kronokommissarie
0418-549 30



datum

2003-07-22



Xxxxxxx Xxxxxxxxx
Xxxxxxxx XXX X x xx
XXX XX Landskroma


Uppgift om efterfrågade betalningar till kronofogdemyndigheten.

Ni har i kontakt med kronofogdemyndigheten efterfrågat uppgift om 
betalningar som gjorts till oss. En sammanställning över era betalningar 
bifogas detta brev.

Jag bifogar även en broschyr om skuldsanering.
Ni vänder et i första hand till konsumentvägledningen i Landskrona kommun 
som, om ni så önskar, kan hjälpa er med att få denna fråga prövad.

Paul Blucher
kronokommissarie


C O U R  E U R O P E E N N E E


            D E S

D R O I T S   D E   L ´ H O M M E

CONSEIL DE L´EUROPÉ
      STRASBOURG

E U R O P E A N   C O U R T

OF

H U M A N R I G H T S


COUNCIL OF EUROPÉ
STRASBOURG


Xxxxxxx XXXXXXXXX
Xxxxxxxx XXX X
SE – XXX XX Landskrona

FJÄRDE AVDELNINGEN

22 augusti 2003

ECHR-LSwe0.1
AM/kh

Mål nr 13585/03
XXXXXXXX mot Sverige


Jag har mottagit Er korrespondans fr.o.m. den 20 juli t.o.m 5 augusti 2003 
med bifogade handlingar, vars innehåll har noterats.

Dessa har lagts in i den akt som gäller ovannämnda mål.


Med välig hälsning
På kanslichefens vägnar


Andres Månsson
Rättssekreterare


BROTTSOFFERMYNDIGHETEN



2003-07-11


Dnr A5460/2003  Rotel 2

AB 2


Xxxxxxxxx, Xxxxxx
Xxxxxxxx XXX X
XXX XX LANDSKRONA


Angående Din anmälan mot kronofogdemyndigheten m.fl.

Brottsoffermyndigheten har tagit emot kopia av Din anmälan med tillhörande 
handlingar ställda till Europadomstolen.

Handlingarna föranleder ingen åtgärd.

Hans Sjölander


HÖGSTA DOMSTOLEN
Administrativa enheten

2003-07-23

Andr 273-03

Xxxxxxx Xxxxxxxxx
Xxxxxxxx XXX X
XXX XX LANDSKRONA


Högsta domstolen bekräftar härmed att vi har mottagit Dina skrivelser via 
e-post den 14 juli 2003 samt den 200 juli 2003.

Skrivelserna föranleder ingen åtgärd.


Som oven


Karin Jonsson
Tf kanslichef







KAMMARRÄTTEN

I STOCKHOLM

2003-07-24

Till AdmD-310-2003

Xxxxxxx Xxxxxxxxx
Xxxxxxxx XXX X
XXX XX LANDSKRONA

Det bekräftas härmed att Kammarrätten i Stockholm har tagit emot ett 
e-postmeddelande från Er.

Er skrivelse föranleder, utöver denna bekräftelse, inte någon ytterligare 
åtgärd från kammarrättens sida utan läggs till handlingarna.

Med vänlig hälsning


Per Holstad
administrativ fiskal




KAMMARRÄTTEN  I GÖTEBORG

GÖTEBORG

2003-08-05

Xxxxxxx Xxxxxxxxx
Xxxxxxxx XXX X
XXX XX LANDSKRONA


Angående Ert skrivelser till kammarrätten inkomna via e-post den 5 augusti 
2003



Skrivelserna är inte hänförliga till någon pågående mål hos kammarrätten 
eller, såvitt kan bedömas, till annan sak som det ankommer på kammarrätten 
att befatta sig med. Skrivelserna har därför utan ytterligare åtgärd lagts 
till handlingarna.


Med vänlig hälsning



Linda Widenström
Jourhavande jurist




Från: Ulmfeldt Kerstin <redacted@tys.dom.se>
Till: 'Car Samoil The Great' <redacted@hotmail.com>
Ämne: SV: Brev till Europeiska domstolen för de mänskliga rättigheterna i 
Strasbourg (M.M)
Datum: Fri, 8 Aug 2003 11:35:49 +0200

YSTADS TINGSRÄTT
Dnr 54-03



Xxxxxxx Xxxxxxxxx
Xxxxxxxx XXX X
XXX XX LANDSKRONA



Det bekräftas härmed att Ystads tingsrätt har tagit emot  e-postmeddelanden 
från Er.

Er skrivelse föranleder, utöver denna bekräftelse, inte någon ytterligare 
åtgärd från Ystads Tingsrätts sida utan läggs till handlingarna.


Thomas Främby
tf Lagman



>-----Ursprungligt meddelande-----
>Från: Car Samoil The Great [SMTP:redacted@hotmail.com]
>Skickat: den 7 augusti 2003 15:04
>Till: redacted@dom.se; redacted@dom.se;
>redacted@dom.se; redacted@dom.se;
>redacted@dom.se; redacted@dom.se;
>redacted@dom.se; redacted@dom.se;
>redacted@dom.se; redacted@dom.se;
>redacted@dom.se; redacted@dom.se;
>redacted@dom.se; redacted@dom.se;
>redacted@dom.se; redacted@dom.se;
>redacted@dom.se; redacted@dom.se;
>redacted@dom.se; redacted@dom.se;
>redacted@dom.se; redacted@dom.se;
>redacted@dom.se; redacted@dom.se;
>redacted@dom.se; redacted@dom.se;
>redacted@dom.se; redacted@dom.se;
>redacted@dom.se; redacted@dom.se; redacted@dom.se;
>redacted@dom.se; redacted@dom.se
>Kopia: redacted@dom.se; redacted@dom.se;
>redacted@dom.se; redacted@dom.se;
>redacted@dom.se; redacted@dom.se;
>redacted@dom.se; redacted@dom.se
>Ämne: Brev till Europeiska domstolen för de mänskliga rättigheterna i 
>Strasbourg (M.M)
>
>Brev till Europeiska domstolen för de mänskliga rättigheterna i 
>Strasbourg-Cedex Frankrike!?
>OCH MM....
>
>
>Xxxxxxx Xxxxxxxxx
>Pers nr. XXXXXX-XXXX
>Xxxxxxxx XXX X
>XXX XX LANDSKRONA
>SVERIGE
>
>Tel: + 46 418 XX XX XX
>Mobitel: + 46 70 XXXXXXX
>
>2003-04-02
>
>Till Europadomstolen i Strasbourg
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Xxxxxxx Xxxxxxxxx
Xxxxxxxx XXX X
XXX XX LANDSKRONA

2003-08-08



Skrivelser till bl.a. Europadomstolen i Strasbourg

Malmö tingsrätt har för kännedom den 7 augusti 2003 från Er –via email- 
mottagit ett flertal skrivelser bl.a. till Europadomstolen i Strasbourg. 
Tingsrätten kommer inte att vidtaga några vidare åtgärder med anledning av 
Ert email.


Tomas Krueger
t.f. lagman





LÄNSRÄTTEN I SKÅNE LÄN

Datum

2003-08-08

Dnr A 423-03

Xxxxxxx Xxxxxxxxx
Xxxxxxxx XXX X
XXX XX LANDSKRONA


Det bekräftas härmed att Länsrätten i Skåne län har tagit ett 
e-postmeddelande från Er med kopia av handlingar rörande ett ärende vid 
Europadomstolen.

Er skrivelse föranleder, utöver denna bekräftelse, inte någon ytterligare 
åtgärd från länsrättens sida utan läggs till handlingarna.

Med vänlig hälsning


Gunilla Hedesten Nordin
lagman







GÖTA HOVRÄTT

2003-08-08

Dnr Ad 2003-220

Xxxxxxx Xxxxxxxxx
Xxxxxxxx XXX X
XXX XX LANDSKRONA


Härmed bekräftas att Göta hovrätt erhållit tre e-postmeddelanden från Er, 
ett den 5 augusti 2003 och två stycken den 7 augusti 2003.

Era skrivelser föranleder, utöver denna bekräftelse, inte någon ytterligare 
åtgärd från hovrättens sida.





Med vänlig hälsning


Carina Tolke
Adm dir



LÄNSRÄTTEN I
ÖSTERGÖTLANDS LÄN

2003-08-08

Dnr AD 2003-0123



Xxxxxxx Xxxxxxxxx
Xxxxxxxx XXX X

XXX XX LANDSKRONA

Angående Din anmälan mot kronofogdemyndigheten m.fl.



Länsrätten i Östergötland har mottagit kopia av Din anmälan med tillhörande 
handlingar som har ställts till Europadomstolen.



Handlingarna föranleder inte någon åtgärd från lansrättens sida.





Laila Lagergren


HO / HANDIKAPP

OMBUDSMANNEN

2003-08-11

Dnr 2003/1289
Aktbilaga 2

Xxxxxxx Xxxxxxxxx
Xxxxxxxx XXX X

XXX XX LANDSKRONA

Angående din skrivelse



Handikappombudsmannen (HO) är en statlig myndighet som bevakar frågor som 
angår rättigheter och intressen för personer med funktionshinder.



Du framför synpunkter på kronofogdemyndighetens handläggning av ditt ärende.



Justitieombudsmannen (JO) behandlar frågor om myndigheters handläggning av 
ärenden. JO:s huvuduppgift är rättslig tillsyn över statliga och kommunala 
myndigheter. I första hand kontrolleras att myndighetsutövning bedrivs 
anligt lagar och andra författningar.



Eftersom du har synpunkter på kronofogdemyndighetens handläggning kan du, 
precis som du har gjort, vända dig till JO.



Med vänlig hälsning


Hans Yngwe
Jurist





Åklagarkammaren i Växjö

Chefsåklagare Christer Johansson
Tel 0470-74 33 08

Datum
2003-08-11
Ert Datum

Dnr 2003/0110
Ert betekning

Xxxxxxx Xxxxxxxxx
Xxxxxxxx XXX X
XXX XX LANDSKRONA

Ni har till åklagarkammaren skickat en anmälan ställd till Europadomstolen 
för de mänskliga rättigheterna med klagomål riktat mot bland annat 
Kronofogdemyndighetens handläggning av utmätningsärende. Utöver anmälan har 
ni skickat 69 sidor med olika slag av skriftväxling.



Det finns inte anledning att anta att brott har förövats. Förundersökning 
ska därför inte inledas.



Er skrivelse föranleder ingen ytterligare åtgärd.


Christer Johansson





Riksskatteverket

Rättsenheten
Magnus Westerström
08-764 99 13

Datum
2003-08-11

Dnr: 6035-03/121




Xxxxxxx Xxxxxxxxx
Xxxxxxxx XXX X
XXX XX LANDSKRONA

Riksskatteverket har mottagit (insänt 030806 samt 030807) kopia av brev till 
Europeiska domstolen för mänskliga rättigheter. RSV kommer inte att vidtaga 
några åtgärder, kopiorna läggs till handlingarna.

Magnus Westerström
Kronodirektör







ÅKLAGARMYNDIGHETEN I GÖTEBORG
ÖVERÅKLAGARENS KANSLI
Vice överåklagare Brigitta Fernqvist

Datum
2003-08-11
Ert Datum

Dnr
400 2003/0636
Er beteckning

Xxxxxxx Xxxxxxxxx
Xxxxxxxx XXX X

XXX XX LANDSKRONA

Ang. Ert e-brev till åklagarmyndigheten den 7 augusti 2003



Med anledning av Ert e-brev till Åklagarmyndigheten i Göteborg m.fl. får jag 
meddela Er att brevet inte föranleder mig att vidta någon åtgärd.





Brigitta Fernqvist





REGERINGSRÄTTEN
Kanslichefen

2003-08-11

AdmD 248/03


Xxxxxxx Xxxxxxxxx
Xxxxxxxx XXX X
XXX XX LANDSKRONA

Regeringsrätten bekräftar härmed att vi har mottagit Er skrivelse via e-post 
den 7 augusti 2003.

Skrivelsen föranleder igen åtgärd.


Maria Malmgren
Tf. kanslichef





Ekobrottsmyndigheten
kammaråklagaren Ana Åkesson

Datum
2003-08-12
Ert Datum

Dnr
900 2003/0295
Er beteckning



Xxxxxxx Xxxxxxxxx
Xxxxxxxx XXX X
XXX XX LANDSKRONA


Angående Er skrivelse till Ekobrottsmyndigheten



Det bekräftas härmed att Ekobrottsmyndigheten mottagit ett e-postmeddelande 
från Er.



Er skrivelse föranleder, utöver denna bekräftelse, inte någon ytterligare 
åtgärd från Ekobrottsmyndigheten utan läggs till handlingarna.


Roland Andresson


Anna Åkesson





KAMMARRÄTTEN
I SUNDSVALL

2003-08-12

Dnr 54-171/03

Xxxxxxx Xxxxxxxxx
Xxxxxxxx XXX X
XXX XX LANDSKRONA

Angående e-post den 7 augusti 2003



Ni har i e-post inkommen till kammarrätten den 7 augusti 2003 översänt 
skriftväxling mellan er och bl.a. Europadomstolen, Justitieombudsmannen och 
någon kronofogdemyndighet. Kammarrätten är en allmän förvaltningsdomstol som 
huvudsakligen behandlar mål som överklagats från länsrätterna i Norrbottens, 
Västerbottens, Jämtlands, Gävleborgats och Dalarnas län. Länsrätternas domar 
kan överklagas till kammarrätten och de allra flesta målen i  kammarrätterna 
har först prövats och avgjorts av en länsrätt.



Av översänt material kan inte utläsas att ni påkallar kammarrättens åtgärd. 
Inte heller kan utläsas att skrivelsen är felsänd på så vis att eventuell 
påkallad åtgärd skall utföras av annan myndighet. Mot denna bakgrund, och då 
ni inte har något pågående eller avslutat mål vid kammarrätten, beslutas att 
lägga er skrivelse till handlingarna utan åtgärd.





Med vänlig hälsning





Åsa Ärlebrant

Administrativ direktör





POST & TELESTYRELSEN

DATUM
13 augusti 2003
ERT DATUM

VÅR REFERENS ERT REFERENS



HANDLÄGGARE, AVDELNING/ENHET, TELEFON, E-POST

Maria Ljungquist
Informationsavdelningen
08-678 5720

Xxxxxxx Xxxxxxxxx
Xxxxxxxx XXX X
XXX XX LANDSKRONA

Klagomål angående telefonräkningar



Post-och telestyrelsen har tagit emot ditt brev.


Vad PTS kunnat se i din skrivelse gäller din enda fråga som rör PTS 
sektorsområde en telefonräkning debiterad av Telia (sid 14). PTS kan inte 
ingripa i tvister om fakturor.

Vid felaktiga fakturor ska ni i första hand vända er till er operatör. Om ni 
anser att fakturan är felaktig kan ni bestrida fakturan hos operatören. För 
att få hjälp med detta kan ni kontakta en konsumentvägledare som finns i er 
kommun.

Vissa slag av tvister kan även prövas av Allmänna reklamationsnämnden (ARN).
Adress till ARN är:
Allmänna reklamationsnämnden
Box 174
101 23 Stockholm

Telefon: 08-783 17 00

Med vänlig hälsning

Maria Ljungquist

Post-och telestyrelsen





UPPSALA TINGSRÄTT

2003-08-15

AÄ 193-03

Xxxxxxx Xxxxxxxxx
Xxxxxxxx XXX X
XXX XX LANDSKRONA

Uppsala tingsrätt har tagit emot Edra E-postmeddelanden av den 7 augusti 
2003.



Meddelanden föranleder ingen tingsrättens åtgärd.





Fredrik von Arnold
Chefsrådman





Åklagarkammaren i Helsingborg

Vice chefsåklagare Göran Olsson
042-17 43 62

Datum
2003-08-16
Ert Datum

Dnr
304A 2003/0166 och
304A 2003/0170
Er beteckning

Xxxxxxx Xxxxxxxxx
Xxxxxxxx XXX X
XXX XX LANDSKRONA


Ni har inkommit till åklagarkammaren med en större mängd handlingar.
Handlingarna föranleder inte någon åtgärd från åklagarkammarens sida.


Göran Olsson





Från: Östberg Iréne <redacted@tge.Dom.se>

Till: 'Car Samoil The Great' <redacted@hotmail.com>

Ämne: SV: Brev till Europeiska domstolen för de mänskliga rättigheterna i 
Strasbourg (M.M)

Datum: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 11:28:19 +0200



Tingsrättens uppgift är att döma i brottmål samt att besluta i vissa 
ärenden. De frågor som Ni aktualiserar hör inte till tingsrättens område.

Tingsrätten kan således inte hjälpa Er och Ert mail föranleder inga åtgärder 
från tingsrättens sida.



Med vänlig hälsning

Iréne Östberg





-----Ursprungligt meddelande-----

Från: Car Samoil The Great [mailto:redacted@hotmail.com]

Skickat: den 7 augusti 2003 15:04

Till: Registrator Växjö tr; Miljödomstolen, Växjö; Registrator Ystads tr; 
Registrator Ångermanlands tr; Registrator Örebro hn; Registrator Örebro lr;

Registrator Örebro tr; Registrator Östergötlands Lr; Registrator Östersunds

tr; Registrator Gällivare tr; Registrator Haparanda tr; Registrator Luleå

tingsrätt; Registrator Norrbottens LR; Registrator Lycksele tr; Registrator

Skellefteå tr; Registrator Umeå tr; Registrator Hr Övre Norrland;

Registrator Västerbottens LR; Registrator Svegs tr; Registrator Jämtlands

LR; Registrator Sundsvalls tr; Registrator Hovrätten Nedre Norrland;

Registrator Sundsvalls KR; Västernorrlands LR Registrator; Registrator

Bollnäs tr; Registrator Gävle tr; Registrator Hudiksvalls tr;

redacted@dom.se; Registrator - lr i Gävleborgs län; Registrator

Falu tr; Registrator Mora TR; Registrator Dalarnas lr; Registrator

Västmanlands tr

Kopia: Registrator Karlskoga tr; Registrator Lindesbergs TR; Registrator

Arvika tr; Registrator Karlstads tr; Registrator Kristinehamns tr;

Registrator Sunne Tingsrätt; Registrator Länsrätten Värmland; Registrator,

Alingsås tingsrätt

Ämne: Brev till Europeiska domstolen för de mänskliga rättigheterna i 
Strasbourg (M.M)



Brev till Europeiska domstolen för de mänskliga rättigheterna i 
Strasbourg-Cedex Frankrike!?

OCH MM....



Xxxxxxx Xxxxxxxxx
Pers nr. XXXXXX-XXXX
Xxxxxxxx XXX X
XXX XX LANDSKRONA
SVERIGE



Tel: + 46 418 XX XX XX
Mobitel: + 46 70 XXXXXXX



2003-04-02



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OMBUDSMANNEN
MOT ETNISK
DISKRIMINERING

DO

2003-08-25

Dnr 1126-2003
Aktbilga 3

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Ang. anmälan om etnisk diskriminering mot kronofogdemyndigheten, 
skattemyndigheten och försäkringskassan



DO kommer inte att göra något mer i ärendet.



DO:s ansvarsområde är enisk diskriminering, d.v.s. kränkande eller orättvis 
behandling på grund av ras, hudfärg, nationellt eller etniskt ursprung eller 
trosbekännelse.

De uppgifter som du har lämnat ger inte underlag för slutsatsen att du 
skulle ha utsatts för etnisk diskriminering. DO kan inte påverka andra 
myndigheter i enskilda ärenden.
Om du anser att de anmälda myndigheternas handläggning av dina ärenden avser 
felaktig myndighetsutövning kan du vända dig till Justitieombudsmannen (JO, 
Box 16327, 103 26 Stockholm) som övervaktar att myndigheter och 
offentliganställda följer lagar och författningar samt fullgör sina 
uppgifter.




Med vänlig hälsning


Anna Theodora Gunnarsdottir,
enhetschef


Nedim Salcic,
jurist





Från: "Aleksandar III Makedonski-Veliki" 
<redacted@hotmail.com>
Till: "Xxxxxx_ Xxxxxxxxx-Xxxxxx" redacted@hotmail.com
Ämne: Ämne: Ärende: Klagomål, referens 1518/2003/TN
Datum: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 18:30:01 +0000

Från: "Euro-Ombudsman Euro-Ombudsman" <redacted@europarl.eu.int>
Till: <redacted@hotmail.com>
Ämne: Ärende: Klagomål, referens 1518/2003/TN
Datum: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 16:12:21 +0200
Bifogad fil: confidentiality_sv.doc (27k)


Strasbourg, 27 augusti 2003


Ärende: Klagomål, referens 1518/2003/TN


Tack för Ert brev av den 05-08-2003.


Ert klagomål till den Europeiska ombudsmannen har registrerats under nummer 
1518/2003/TN, och Tina Nilsson kommer att handlägga ärendet (telefon + 
32.(0)2.284.14.17).


Ombudsmannen kan endast företa sådana undersökningar som är berättigade 
enligt kriterierna i Fördraget om upprättande av de Europeiska gemenskaperna 
och ombudsmannens stadga. Ni kommer att informeras så snart som möjligt om 
huruvida Ert klagomål är berättigat eller inte.


Observera att klagomål (inklusive bilagor) som skickas till den Europeiska 
ombudsmannen är offentliga om inte den klagande särskilt begär konfidentiell 
behandling. Även ett konfidentiellt klagomål måste skickas till den berörda 
gemenskapsinstitutionen eller det berörda gemenskapsorganet om ombudsmannen 
inleder en undersökning. Det bifogade informationsbladet innehåller 
ytterligare upplysningar samt hänvisningar till reglerna om skyddet av 
personuppgifter.


Vänligen observera att enligt artikel 2.6 i Europeiska ombudsmannens stadga 
skall klagomål som inges till ombudsmannen inte påverka tidsfrister för 
överklaganden i administrativa förfaranden eller domstolsförfaranden.

Med hänsyn till vår korrespondens skulle vi vara tacksamma om vi skulle få 
kännedom om Er post adress.

Med vänlig hälsning

João Sant'Anna

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Klagomål till Europeiska ombudsmannen (med eventuella bilagor) behandlas i 
regel offentligt.

"Offentlig behandling" av ett klagomål innebär att vem som helst kan få 
tillgång till klagomålet och bilagorna. Om ombudsmannen inleder en 
undersökning kommer svaret från den berörda institutionen eller det berörda 
organet, alla synpunkter som klaganden lämnar på svaret, liksom de övriga 
dokument som anges i artikel 13 i genomförandebestämmelserna (finns på 
ombudsmannens webplats) att bli offentliga handlingar som vem som helst på 
begäran kan få tillgång till. Ombudsmannens beslut när det gäller klagomål 
offentliggörs i årsrapporten och på webplatsen, med den klagandes namn 
borttaget.

Den som klagar har rätt att begära att klagomålet behandlas konfidentiellt. 
Om konfidentiell behandling begärs kommer allmänheten inte att få tillgång 
till klagomålet eller till de övriga dokument som anges ovan. Även ett 
konfidentiellt klagomål måste emellertid skickas till den 
gemenskapsinstitution eller det organ som berörs, om ombudsmannen inleder en 
undersökning. Ombudsmannens beslut när det gäller konfidentiella klagomål 
offentliggörs i årsrapporten och på webplatsen men med alla uppgifter som 
kan identifiera den klagande borttagna.

Klagomål till ombudsmannen kan innehålla personuppgifter som avser den 
klagande eller tredje part. Europeiska ombudsmannens hantering av 
personuppgifter regleras i förordning (EG) nr 45/2001. (1) Om den klagande 
inte begär att klagomålet skall behandlas konfidentiellt anses vederbörande 
i enlighet med artikel 5 d i förordning (EG) nr 45/2001 ha tillåtit att 
ombudsmannen behandlar de eventuella personuppgifter som klagomålet kan 
innehålla offentligt.

(1) Europaparlamentets och rådets förordning (EG) nr 45/2001 av den 18 
december 2000 om skydd för enskilda då gemenskapsinstitutionerna och 
gemenskapsorganen behandlar personuppgifter och om den fria rörligheten för 
sådana uppgifter EGT L 8/1, 12.01.2001.

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Från: "Xxxxxx_Xxxxxxxx" <redacted@hotmail.com>
Till: redacted@europarl.eu.int
Kopia: redacted@hotmail.com, redacted@hotmail.com, 
redacted@hotmail.com
Ämne: SV: Klagomål, referens 1518/2003/TN
Datum: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 11:07:16 +0000
Bifogad fil: 
BrevtillEuropeiskadomstolenfördemänskligarettigheternaiStrasbourg-CedexFRANKRIKE!.doc 
(164k)

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SVERIGE

Tel: + 46 418 XX XX XX
Mobitel: + 46 70 XXXXXXX


28 augusti 2003


Svar till Europeiska ombudsmannens E-post brevet av den 27 augusti 2003!


Tack för Ert E-post brevet och bifogad filen av den 27 augusti 2003.


Jag har last Er brev och jag har inte set någon namn i Er brev till vem 
eller till vilken Pearson ni menade om Klagomålet, Efta som ni har svarat 
till ett anat E-mail adress. Om ni menade om min Klagomål till 
Europadomstolen i Strasbourg so ni har kommit till röta. Dom material som ni 
har fat av denna E-mail adress "Aleksandar III Makedonski-Veliki" 
redacted@hotmail.com er min material.

Jag fikar till Er min adress bed bifogad fil och med flera brev som ni kan 
leasa och se hur dom olika svenska myndighet har reagerat och brevena fram 
Europadomstolen om min Klagomål.

Med vänlig hälsning

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EUROPEISKA OMBUDSMANNEN

020337

P. NIKIFOROS DIAMANDOUROS

Aleksandar III Makedonski-Veliki
redacted@hotmail.com


Strasbourg den  09-09-2003

1518/2003/TN

Jag skriver till Er med anledning av Ert e-brev av den 5 augusti 2003, i 
vilket Ni klagar över hur Ni blivit behandlad av Kronofogdemyndigheten.

Jag vill inledningsvis göra Er uppmärksam på att Ert 2-brev blivit 
registrerat som ett klagomål hos Europeiska ombudsmannen.

Fördraget om upprättandet av Europeiska gemenskapen och Europeiska 
ombudsmannens staga anger exakta villkor för när ett klagomål är tillåtet.
Ombudsmannen kan endast inleda en undersökning om dessa villkor uppfylls.


Ett av dessa villkor är:

artikel 2.1 i Europeiska ombudsmannens stadga:

”Inom ramarna för de nämnda fördragen (…) skall ombudsmannen bidra till 
upptäckten av fel och försummelser i samband med verksamheten inom 
gemenskapens institutioner och organ (…) Handlingar som företas av någon 
annan myndighet eller person kan inte vara föremål för klagan hos 
ombudsmannen”.



Efter granskning av Ert klagomål finner jag att detta villkor inte uppfylls, 
eftersom Ert klagomål inte gäller en gemenskapsinstitution eller et 
gemenskapsorgan, såsom till exempel Europeiska kommissionen, Europeiska 
unionens råd eller Europaparlamentet, utan en svensk myndighet.



Tyvärr måste jag därför meddela Er att jag inte har behörighet att behandla 
Ert klagomål.



Med vänlig hälsning



P. Nikiforos DIAMANDOUROS




LÄNSRÄTTEN I
ÖREBRO LÄN

2003-09-01

Dnr 5.54 Nr 115-03



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Angående Er skrivelse den 7 augusti 2003-09-02



Ni har ovannämnda datum till länsrättens e-postlåda översänt en kopia av 
skrivelse till Europadomstolen för de mänskliga rättigheterna samt ett antal 
bilagor. Av Er skrivelse framgår att Ni klagar över främst 
kronofogdemyndighetens sätt att handlägga fråga om utmätning. Ni anför 
därvid bland annat att Era skulder ökat trots att kronofogdemyndigheten 
under lång tid gjort utmätning av Er lön och pension. Ni anför vidare att Ni 
trots ett flertal försökt inte fått svar på frågor som ställts till 
kronofogdemyndigheten, skattemyndigheten och försäkringskassan.



Länsrätten önskar med anledning av Er skrivelse upplysa om följande. 
Länsrätten är en allmän förvaltningsdomstol som prövar överklagande av bland 
annat förvaltningsmyndighets beslut i visst ärende. Vilka förvaltningsbeslut 
som kan överklaga till länsrätten framgår av lagen (1971:289) om allmänna 
förvaltningsdomstolar samt tillämplig specialförfattning. Frågor om 
överklagande av en kronofogdemyndighets beslut regleras i 18 kap. 
utsökningsbalnken. Av 18 kap. 1 & utsökningsbalnken framgår att en 
kronofogdemyndighets beslut överklagas hos en tingsrätt.



Såvitt framgår av Er skrivelse innebär denna inte ett överklagande av något 
beslut som kan överklagas till länsrätt. Er skrivelse föranleder därför 
ingen vidare åtgärd av länsrätten.



2003-09-01



Länsrättsfiskal Karin Leidzen




JUSTITIEKANSLERN


BREVSVAR

Datum
2003-09-05

Dnr
2562-03-29

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Klagomål mot Kronofogdemyndigheten i Malmö



Till Justitiekanslern inkom den 8 augusti 2003 ett e-brev från Dig som 
utgjorde ett brev ställt till europeiska domstolen för de mänskliga 
rättigheterna. I brevet har Du klagat över Kronofogdemyndighetens 
handläggning av ett mål om utmätning och anfört bl.a. att Dina skulder ökar 
trots att utmätning under lång tid ägt rum av Din lön och pension.

Av e-brevet framgår att Du har vänt Dig till JO med samma klagomål. I ett 
beslut den 29 april 2003 konstaterade JO att anmälan inte skulle utredas, 
eftersom den var för allmänt hållen (dnr 1453-03).

Justitiekanslern och JO har, i fråga om tillsynen över offentlig 
förvaltning, helt likartade uppgifter och befogenheter. Justitiekanslern 
avstår därför regelmässigt från att själv ta upp sådana frågor som redan är 
eller har varit underställda riksdagens tillsynsorgan, JO. Eftersom Du redan 
har vänt Dig till JO med samma klagomål har Justitiekanslern inte funnit 
skäl att låta utreda de anmälda förhållandena. Ärendet har därför avlutats.





Enlig uppdrag



Feryal Mentes





Kronofogdemyndigheten



BEGÄRAN OM KOMPLETTERING



Datum

2003-09-04



Dnr
2688-03/ORA



Marit Rodin
042-174496



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Begäran om kompletterande uppgifter



Du har i en ansökan som inkommit till Kronofogdemyndigheten begärt – så som 
det får förstås – att en eller flera skulder, som du blivit restförd för, 
ska gallras/utplånas från Kronofogdemyndighetens utsöknings – och 
indrivningsdatabas.

Vilken eller vilka skulder avser du med din skivelse?

Är skulden betald? När har betalning skett, till vem har du betalat och hur 
mycket har du betalat?

Varför anser du att skulden är felaktigt restförd?

Ärendet vilar i avvaktan på svar. Kompletteringen skall vara 
Kronofogdemyndigheten tillhanda senast den 25 september 2003.

Inkommer inte de begärda uppgifterna kan Kronofogdemyndigheten inte göra en 
prövning av den aktuella skulden/skulderna är felaktigt restförda, och din 
ansökan kan av detta skäl komma att avvisas.

Svaret skall skickas till Kronofogdemyndigheten i Helsingborg, Box 723. 251 
07 Helsingborg




Med vänlig hälsning


Marit Rodin





C O U R  E U R O P E E N N E E


            D E S

D R O I T S   D E   L ´ H O M M E

CONSEIL DE L´EUROPÉ
      STRASBOURG

E U R O P E A N   C O U R T

OF

H U M A N R I G H T S


COUNCIL OF EUROPÉ
STRASBOURG


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FJÄRDE AVDELNINGEN

16 september 2003


ECHR-LSwe0.1
AM/bma

Mål nr 13585/03


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Jag har mottagit Er brev med bilagor vilka ankom till domstolen den 20 0ch 
28 augusti samt den 3 september 2003.



Dessa har lagts in i den akt som gäller ovannämnda mål.


Med väldig hälsning
På kanslichefens vägnar


Andres Månsson
Rättssekreterare





From: "inter.business" <redacted@spray.se>
To: "Macedonian Revolutionary" <redacted@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Brev till Europeiska domstolen för de mänskliga rättigheterna i 
Strasbourg-Cedex
Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 14:25:37 +0200

Vilket Kronofogdekontor avser handläggningan ?

Vänligen

Arne Löyskä


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Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2003 10:32 PM
Subject: Brev till Europeiska domstolen för de mänskliga rättigheterna i
Strasbourg-Cedex

>Letter to the European Court of Human Rights Council of Europe
>Strasbourg-Cedex FRANCE!
>
>Brev till Europeiska domstolen för de mänskliga rättigheterna i 
>Strasbourg-Cedex Frankrike!?
>OCH MM....
>
>From: "Macedonian Revolutionary" <redacted@hotmail.com>
>To: redacted@a1.com.mk, redacted@mt.net.mk, redacted@dnevnik.com.mk,
>redacted@utrinski.com.mk, redacted@makedonskosonce.com, redacted@a1.com.mk,
>redacted@mol.com.mk, redacted@mt.net.mk, redacted@mt.net.mk, redacted@mia.com.mk,
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>redacted@ecopresscenter.org, redacted@yahoo.com,
>redacted@makedonija.tv.gov.mk, redacted@dnevnik.com.mk, redacted@mt.net.mk
>CC: redacted@hotmail.com,
>redacted@hotmail.com
>Subject: Poraka i materijali do makedonskite novinari (mediumi) od
VMRO-MNM
>Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2003 09:25:39 +0000
>
>Poraka i materijali do makedonskite novinari (mediumi) od Makedonskata
>komitska i patriotska organizacija VMRO-MNM (Makedonija na Makedoncite)!
>
>9 juli 2003 g.
>
>Pochituvani Dami i gospodo novinari na makedoskite mediumi?
>
>Ako ste realni i chesni novinari, pokazhete ja Vashata realnost i chesnost
>pa objavite go vo Vashite mediumi ovaj materijal. Materijalot e napishan
>na shvetski jazik. Koj shto eden nash sonarodnik makedonec ja ima tuzheno 
>na
>Evropskiot sud za chovekovi prava vo Strasbourg anti demokratskoto,
>ekstremistichko, rasistichko i kriminalno opstestvo na shvedska. Vie kako
>novinari mozhete da se snajdete da ovaj materijal go prevedete na
>makedonski jazik i da go objavete do posleden zbor. Poshto tuka ima pisma 
>od
>evropskiot sud i. dr. koj shto nashite makedonci treba da se zapoznaat za 
>zapadnite
>anti demokratski, rasistichki i kriminalni opstestva. Vie kako
>novinari-mediumi ste dolzhni da ja zapoznavate makedonskata javnost za i
>so nashite makedonci shto se naprivremen pristoj i na rabota vo dijasporata
>(vo zapadot). Tuka se raboti za ogromni diskrimnacii protiv strancite,
>prekrshuvanje na chovekovi prava na strancite, narodno zagrozuvanje na
>strancite vo zapadnite zemji i orgromni kriminali so pljachkanje na pari
>na pari na strancite, koj shto eden od niv e nashiot sogragjanin brat
>makedonec. Identitetot na nashiot brat makedonec e poznato vo
>organizacijata VMRO-MNM. Ako ovaj materijal ne se objavi togash ne sakam da 
>chujam za
>nekavi makedonski mediumi. Togash tie makedonski novinari se korumptirani
>i tie makeodnski mediumi se protiv zastita na makedonskite nacionali
>interesi i ste protiv za zashtita na ogromnite diskriminacii na nashite 
>makedonci
>vo zapadniot svet i poshiroko. I Vie bi bile korumptirani kako taka
>narechenite makedonski politichari sgto se totalno korumptirani. A i vo toj 
>smisol
>makedonskite mediumi gji podrzhavat zapadnite anti demokratski opstestva i
>nivnite biogratski kriminali i korumptirani politichki faktori. Toa kje
>bide deka makedonskite mediumi gji podrzhavate zapadnite anti demokratski,
>biokratski, kriminalni, ekstremistichki, rasistichki i korumptirani
>institucii i asosijacii. Ako ovaj materijal se objavi vo makeodnskite
>mediumi togash zapadnite anti demokratski, biokratski, ekstremistichki,
>rasistichki, kriminalni i korumptirani politichki faktori kje prestanat da
>izigravat i da go lazhat makedonskiot narod vo makeodnija deka nivnite
>zapadni zemji se "demkratski, realni i solidarni zemji (opstestva)".
>
>Shansite na nashiot brat makedonec se naj verovatno na 0%. Nashiot brat
>makedonec nema Advokat za da go brani, poshto ovde vo zapadnite zemji
>advokatite ne gji branat strancite, niti pak nivnite javno oviniteli i
>sudstvoto ne sakat da gji napagjat i osuduvat nivnite zapadni braka.
>Zapadnite advokati gi branat na strancite samo za molzenje na pari, a od
>koga na stranite im se potrishat parite togash advokatite se otkazhuvat.
>Nie od organizacijata VMRO-MNM veruvame i sme ubedeni deka Evropskiot sud 
>za
>chovekovi prava vo Strasbourg-Cedex Francija nema da gji osudi i kazne
>nivnite zapadni anti demokrati, ekstremisti, rasisti, biokrati, kriminalci
>i korimptirani braka, nego kje donese odluka vo prilog na svedskoto, anti
>demokratkoto, ekstremistichko, rasistichko, kriminalno i korumptirano
>opstestvo. Veruvame i sme ubedeni deka "Evropskiot sud za chovekovi prava
>vo Strasbourg-Cedex Francija" nema da gji osudi i kazni nivnite zapadni 
>anti
>demokrati, biokrati, ekstremisti, rasisti, kriminalci i korumptirani braka
>za eden stranec shto ne e chovek od zapadnite nacionalnosti. Sepak nie od
>organizacijata VMRO-MNM im isprativme na "Evropskiot sud za chovekovi
>prava vo Strasbourg-Cedex Francija"  masivno na nashi materijali kako vo 
>plikovi
>preko poshta taka i preko nashi elektronski e-mail poshti. Isto tka nie
>toj materijal go isprakjame shirom celiot svet, se razbira do site svetski
>politichki i von politichki faktori, institucii i asosijacii. Dokolku
>nashiot brat makedonec dobie negativna odluka, za koj i ochekuvame. Iako
>nashiot brat makedonec e 100% vo pravo i ima pravo da go dobie toa shto go
>bara, poshto shveckite anti demokrati, ekstremisti, rasisti, kriminalci i
>biokrati mu imat pljachkano pari vekje nekolku godini i mu imat praveno
>golemi zagrozuvanja i diskriminacii. Kako shto rekov ako dobie nashiot
>brat makedonec negativna odluka togash nie od organizacijata VMRO-MNM kje 
>gji
>prezememe problemite i katastrofalnite konsenkvencii vo nashi race i vo
>idnina kje bidat so ogromni finaciski i materijalno oshteteni zapadnite
>zemji. Zapadnite zemji nema da bidat oshteteni samo za nashit brat
>makedonec, nego kje bidat oshteteni so ogromni finacii i matrealno kako i
>so masivno likvidiranje na nivni vojvonici i fanatici shto se vo 
>makedonija,
>a za toa site nie makedonci znaeme kakvi agresii, i pljacki imat praveno vo
>makedonija pa i etnichki chistenja i genocid nad makedonskiot narod....
>
>So pochit
>
>Od eden seriozen, chesen, realen i gord komita i patriot i chlen na
>organizacijata VMRO-MNM (Makedonija na Makedoncite)
>MACEDONIAN REVOLUTIONARY
>
>
>Letter to the European Court of Human Rights Council of Europe
>Strasbourg-Cedex FRANCE!
>
>
>Brev till Europeiska domstolen för de mänskliga rättigheterna i
>Strasbourg-Cedex Frankrike!?
>OCH MM....
>
>Xxxxxxx Xxxxxxxxx
>Pers nr. XXXXXX-XXXX
>Xxxxxxxx XXX X
>XXX XX LANDSKRONA
>SVERIGE
>
>Tel: + 46 418 XX XX XX
>Mobitel: + 46 70 XXXXXXX
>
>2003-04-02
>
>Till Europadomstolen i Strasbourg


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From: "A-Projekt" <redacted@spray.se>
Reply-To: "A-Projekt" <redacted@a-projekt.com>
To: "Macedonian Revolutionary" <redacted@hotmail.com>
Subject: Kronofogdemyndighetens vägran att svara.
Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 14:28:53 +0200

Hej !

Var vänlig meddela vilken kronofogdemyndighet som vägrat besvara frågor om 
inbetalda medel.

Vänligen

Arne Löyskä


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From: "inter.business" <redacted@spray.se>
To: "Macedonian Revolutionary" <redacted@hotmail.com>
Subject: Fw: Betalningsinformtion om inbetalda skulder.
Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 15:05:35 +0200

Hej - du okände person !

Vem är du som skickat information.

FÖR KÄNNEDOM - min fråga till Kronofogdemyndigheten.


Hälsningar

Arne Löyskä

----- Original Message -----
From: inter.business
To: redacted@kfm12.rsv.se
Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 2:22 PM
Subject: Betalningsinformtion om inbetalda skulder.

Hej !

Jag fick ett e-post - i vilket det berättas att Kronofogdemyndigheten vägrar 
svara på en fråga . . .  . hur mycket en person betalat in till myndigheten 
de senaste åren till olika alternativa fordringsägare.
Bland annat beskriver e-postskrivaren  "att betalning skett tillfullo till 
den bank för vilken myndigheten drivit in pengar".  Bankemn kan vidimera att 
det inte längre färekommer någon skuld till banken.

Likväl fortsätter myndigheten driva in pengar till rubricerade bank.
Och - myndigheten vägrar redovisa inbetalade medel till den som man från 
myndigheten har fordran på.

FRÅGA:
Är det korrekt att Kronofogdemyndigheten kan vägra redovisa indrivna medel - 
för den som betalat sin/a skuld/er till Kronofogdemyndigheten.

Vad jag kan förstå så har berörd person enligt lag rätt att ta del av och få 
denna information - enligt offentlighetsprincipen som berörd person kan 
åberopa - för sin personliga del.

Eller ?

TACKSAM FÖR SVAR - SNARAST !

Vänligen

Arne Löyskä
070 - 170 95 61


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From: "inter.business" <redacted@spray.se>
To: "Macedonian Revolutionary" <redacted@hotmail.com>
Subject: Fw: Betalningsinformtion om inbetalda skulder.
Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 12:47:47 +0200

Inkommet svar från Kronofogdemyndigheten.

Hälsningar

Arne Löyskä


----- Original Message -----
From: "Kronofogdemyndigheten i Malmö" <redacted@kfm12.rsv.se>
To: "inter.business" <redacted@spray.se>
Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 10:20 AM
Subject: Re: Betalningsinformtion om inbetalda skulder.

Svar på ditt e-brev till Kronofogdemyndigheten:.

De två frågor som du ställer är egenteligen en och samma fråga som kan 
besvaras med följande.

Den hos kronofogdemyndigheten restförda personen-gäldenären- har alltid rätt 
att ta del av alla uppgifter som berör vederbörande och finns hos 
kronofogdemyndigheten.


Med vänlig hälsning
Kennet Olsson
Kronofogdemyndigheten i Malmö
Hemsida: www.rsv.se


Fråga:

Hej !

Jag fick ett e-post - i vilket det berättas att Kronofogdemyndigheten vägrar 
svara på en fråga . . . . hur mycket en  person betalat in till myndigheten 
de senaste åren till olika alternativa  fordringsägare.
Bland annat beskriver e-postskrivaren "att betalning skett tillfullo till 
den bank för vilken myndigheten drivit in pengar". Bankemn kan vidimera att 
det inte längre färekommer någon skuld till  banken.

Likväl fortsätter myndigheten driva in pengar till rubricerade bank.
Och - myndigheten vägrar redovisa inbetalade medel till den som man från 
myndigheten har fordran på.

FRÅGA:
Är det korrekt att Kronofogdemyndigheten kan vägra redovisa indrivna medel - 
för den som betalat sin/a skuld/er till  Kronofogdemyndigheten.

Vad jag kan förstå så har berörd person enligt lag rätt att ta del av och få 
denna information - enligt offentlighetsprincipen som berörd person kan 
åberopa - för sin personliga del.

Eller ?

TACKSAM FÖR SVAR - SNARAST !

Vänligen

Arne Löyskä
070 - 170 95 61

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From: "inter.business" <redacted@spray.se>
To: "Macedonian Revolutionary" <redacted@hotmail.com>
Subject: Fw: Vem är Olle Gullstrand ?
Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 13:34:06 +0200

FÖR KÄNNEDOM


----- Original Message -----
From: inter.business
To: redacted@kfm12.rsv.se
Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 2:23 PM
Subject: Vem är Olle Gullstrand ?

Hej !

På vilket kronofogdekontor finns det en chef som heter Olle Gullstrand ?

Tacksam för svar !

Vänligen

Arne Löyskä


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redacted@utrinski.com.mk, redacted@makedonskosonce.com, redacted@a1.com.mk, 
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CC: redacted@hotmail.com, 
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Subject: Poraka i materijali do makedonskite novinari (mediumi) od VMRO-MNM
Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2003 09:25:39 +0000

Poraka i materijali do makedonskite novinari (mediumi) od Makedonskata 
komitska i patriotska organizacija VMRO-MNM (Makedonija na Makedoncite)!

9 juli 2003 g.

Pochituvani Dami i gospodo novinari na makedoskite mediumi?

Ako ste realni i chesni novinari, pokazhete ja Vashata realnost i chesnost 
pa objavite go vo Vashite mediumi ovaj materijal. Materijalot e napishan na 
shvetski jazik. Koj shto eden nash sonarodnik makedonec ja ima tuzheno na 
Evropskiot sud za chovekovi prava vo Strasbourg anti demokratskoto, 
ekstremistichko, rasistichko i kriminalno opstestvo na shvedska. Vie kako 
novinari mozhete da se snajdete da ovaj materijal go prevedete na makedonski 
jazik i da go objavete do posleden zbor. Poshto tuka ima pisma od evropskiot 
sud i. dr. koj shto nashite makedonci treba da se zapoznaat za zapadnite 
anti demokratski, rasistichki i kriminalni opstestva. Vie kako 
novinari-mediumi ste dolzhni da ja zapoznavate makedonskata javnost za i so 
nashite makedonci shto se naprivremen pristoj i na rabota vo dijasporata (vo 
zapadot). Tuka se raboti za ogromni diskrimnacii protiv strancite, 
prekrshuvanje na chovekovi prava na strancite, narodno zagrozuvanje na 
strancite vo zapadnite zemji i orgromni kriminali so pljachkanje na pari na 
pari na strancite, koj shto eden od niv e nashiot sogragjanin brat 
makedonec. Identitetot na nashiot brat makedonec e poznato vo organizacijata 
VMRO-MNM. Ako ovaj materijal ne se objavi togash ne sakam da chujam za 
nekavi makedonski mediumi. Togash tie makedonski novinari se korumptirani i 
tie makeodnski mediumi se protiv zastita na makedonskite nacionali interesi 
i ste protiv za zashtita na ogromnite diskriminacii na nashite makedonci vo 
zapadniot svet i poshiroko. I Vie bi bile korumptirani kako taka narechenite 
makedonski politichari sgto se totalno korumptirani. A i vo toj smisol 
makedonskite mediumi gji podrzhavat zapadnite anti demokratski opstestva i 
nivnite biogratski kriminali i korumptirani politichki faktori. Toa kje bide 
deka makedonskite mediumi gji podrzhavate zapadnite anti demokratski, 
biokratski, kriminalni, ekstremistichki, rasistichki i korumptirani 
institucii i asosijacii. Ako ovaj materijal se objavi vo makeodnskite 
mediumi togash zapadnite anti demokratski, biokratski, ekstremistichki, 
rasistichki, kriminalni i korumptirani politichki faktori kje prestanat da 
izigravat i da go lazhat makedonskiot narod vo makeodnija deka nivnite 
zapadni zemji se "demkratski, realni i solidarni zemji (opstestva)".

Shansite na nashiot brat makedonec se naj verovatno na 0%. Nashiot brat 
makedonec nema Advokat za da go brani, poshto ovde vo zapadnite zemji 
advokatite ne gji branat strancite, niti pak nivnite javno oviniteli i 
sudstvoto ne sakat da gji napagjat i osuduvat nivnite zapadni braka. 
Zapadnite advokati gi branat na strancite samo za molzenje na pari, a od 
koga na stranite im se potrishat parite togash advokatite se otkazhuvat. Nie 
od organizacijata VMRO-MNM veruvame i sme ubedeni deka Evropskiot sud za 
chovekovi prava vo Strasbourg–Cedex Francija nema da gji osudi i kazne 
nivnite zapadni anti demokrati, ekstremisti, rasisti, biokrati, kriminalci i 
korimptirani braka, nego kje donese odluka vo prilog na svedskoto, anti 
demokratkoto, ekstremistichko, rasistichko, kriminalno i korumptirano 
opstestvo. Veruvame i sme ubedeni deka "Evropskiot sud za chovekovi prava vo 
Strasbourg–Cedex Francija" nema da gji osudi i kazni nivnite zapadni anti 
demokrati, biokrati, ekstremisti, rasisti, kriminalci i korumptirani braka 
za eden stranec shto ne e chovek od zapadnite nacionalnosti. Sepak nie od 
organizacijata VMRO-MNM im isprativme na "Evropskiot sud za chovekovi prava 
vo Strasbourg–Cedex Francija"  masivno na nashi materijali kako vo plikovi 
preko poshta taka i preko nashi elektronski e-mail poshti. Isto tka nie toj 
materijal go isprakjame shirom celiot svet, se razbira do site svetski 
politichki i von politichki faktori, institucii i asosijacii. Dokolku 
nashiot brat makedonec dobie negativna odluka, za koj i ochekuvame. Iako 
nashiot brat makedonec e 100% vo pravo i ima pravo da go dobie toa shto go 
bara, poshto shveckite anti demokrati, ekstremisti, rasisti, kriminalci i 
biokrati mu imat pljachkano pari vekje nekolku godini i mu imat praveno 
golemi zagrozuvanja i diskriminacii. Kako shto rekov ako dobie nashiot brat 
makedonec negativna odluka togash nie od organizacijata VMRO-MNM kje gji 
prezememe problemite i katastrofalnite konsenkvencii vo nashi race i vo 
idnina kje bidat so ogromni finaciski i materijalno oshteteni zapadnite 
zemji. Zapadnite zemji nema da bidat oshteteni samo za nashit brat 
makedonec, nego kje bidat oshteteni so ogromni finacii i matrealno kako i so 
masivno likvidiranje na nivni vojvonici i fanatici shto se vo makedonija, a 
za toa site nie makedonci znaeme kakvi agresii, i pljacki imat praveno vo 
makedonija pa i etnichki chistenja i genocid nad makedonskiot narod....

So pochit

Od eden seriozen, chesen, realen i gord komita i patriot i chlen na 
organizacijata VMRO-MNM (Makedonija na Makedoncite)
MACEDONIAN REVOLUTIONARY


Letter to the European Court of Human Rights Council of Europe 
Strasbourg-Cedex FRANCE!


Brev till Europeiska domstolen för de mänskliga rättigheterna i 
Strasbourg–Cedex Frankrike!?
OCH MM....


Xxxxxxx Xxxxxxxxx
Pers nr. XXXXXX-XXXX
Xxxxxxxx XXX X
XXX XX LANDSKRONA
SVERIGE

Tel: + 46 418 XX XX XX
Mobitel: + 46 70 XXXXXXX

2003-04-02

Till Europadomstolen i Strasbourg
Jag skriver till er angående mina problem i detta nazistiska, fascistiska 
och kriminella, svenska samhälle. I detta land har jag utsatts för 
bedrägliga och kränkande handlingar av svenska kriminella myndigheter som 
stulit hundratusentals kronor av mig.

1987 öppnade jag ett företag. Jag lånade då 45 000 skr på SE-banken. Jag tog 
också lån på Nordbanken (+checkräkningskredit). Därutöver köpte jag 
kontorsmöbler på IKEA och kontorsmaterial på Gleerups, allt på faktura, mm. 
Tyvärr gick inte företaget bra och för att kunna överleva var jag tvungen 
att avregistrera mitt företag. Hade jag bara hållit ut en månad till, då jag 
blev erbjuden ett arbete av ett stort byggnadsföretag i Sverige, hade min 
lycka varit gjord.

1988 började jag arbeta på ett slakteri. Jag började då också betala av på 
min skuld med 1 250 kr som automatiskt drogs från min lön varannan vecka. 
Lite mer än ett år senare var min skuld på 45 000 skr till SE-banken betald 
– endast räntan återstod. Jag fortsatte då att betala 1 000 skr/mån till 
detta. Tyvärr skadades jag allvarligt på mitt arbete vilket betydde att jag 
blev långtidssjukskriven. Jag fortsatte ändå att betala av på räntan till 
SE-banken. Problemet var att även kronofogdemyndigheten gjorde avdrag på min 
sjukinkomst med mellan 1 000 – 1 500 skr/mån. Till slut med min dåliga (och 
fortsatt dåliga) inkomst kändes detta ohållbart och jag slutade betala till 
SE-banken. Kronofogdemyndigheten tog då över alla skulder.

Kronofogdemyndigheten har alltså dragit pengar från mig under hela tiden. 
Både under min sjukskrivning och sedan när jag blev förtidspensionär. Summan 
har varit ca 2 500 skr/mån (någon gång 2 800 skr). De har också lagt beslag 
på min överskjutande skatt. Denna summa har varierat beroende på hur mycket 
skatt jag betalat in men den har legat på mellan 6 000 kr – 9 000 kr. Allt 
som allt har kronofogdemyndigheten dragit ca 30 000 – 40 000 skr av mig 
varje år.

Som nämnts tidigare så började jag betala av på min skuld till SE-banken 
1988 och lite mer än ett år senare var skulden betald. Det skrämmande är att 
år 2000 betalade jag 18 805,34 skr i ränta till SE-banken. Detta är alltså 
ca 10 år senare! Både skulden och räntan har alltså betalats tillbaka med 
åtminstone ett fyrdubbelt belopp. Men det som är mer skrämmande är att år 
2002 fick jag papper om att jag fortfarande inte var kvitt skulden till 
SE-banken utan var skyldig dem 54 739 skr! När jag kontaktade SE-banken 
angående detta sade de att jag inte var skyldig dem något, att skulden var 
betald. Men enligt ett papper från kronofogdemyndigheten daterat 2003-03-12 
är nu skulden till SE-banken 57 556 skr. Detta är en höjning på skulden på 2 
817 skr på ett år. Då kan man börja undra var de ca 2 500 skr tar vägen som 
de drar av mig varje månad. De har i alla fall inte använt dem till att 
betala skulder.

Min dåliga hälsa och mitt handikapp har inneburit otaliga läkarbesök och 
dyra mediciner. Detta och min redan dåliga ekonomi på grund av mycket låg 
inkomst tillsammans med kronofogdens avdrag gjorde att jag 1996 fick problem 
med att betala min hyra. Min hyresskuld var då 8 848 kr inklusive ränta. I 
1997, då kronofogdemyndigheten tog över skulden, var den på 10 679 skr 
exklusive ränta! Inklusive ränta skulle jag då betala 12 896 skr. Vad jag 
inte kan förstå är hur kapitalskulden kan förändras. Att det tillkommer 
ränta är inget egendomligt (den skall dock vara rimlig) men att själva 
kapitalskulden växer osar lurendrejeri! En annan sak angående den skulden är 
att den i dag, 2003, är på 5 300 skr + ränta 729,28 skr = 6 029,28 skr. 
Detta betyder att av de ca 2 500 skr kronofogdemyndigheten drar av mig varje 
månad så har, på 5,5 år, 6 866,72 skr gått till denna skuld (skulden skulle 
egentligen idag vara på 8 848 – 6 866,72 = 1 981,28 skr och inte 6 029,28). 
Det blir alltså 104 kr i månaden! Då kan man naturligtvis fråga sig var de 
andra pengarna tagit vägen för som vi kan se så har de inte gått till mina 
skulder. Alla de skulder jag har finns på kronofogdemyndigheten. Deras 
skyldighet, med alla de pengar de drar av mig, är att se till att alla 
skulder betalas (och att det sker med en gnutta förstånd, hyresskulden 
skulle ha kunnat vara betald för flera år sedan). Men som det ser ut verkar 
de har stoppat dessa pengar i sina egna fickor. Min orsak till att komma med 
detta påstående kommer jag att ta upp senare i detta brev.

Jag har under alla dessa år betalat mellan 400 000 – 500 000 skr. Kvar är 
skulder på ca 250 000 skr. En sådan hög summa hade jag inte 1989.

En annan räkning som jag har och som också finns hos kronofogdemyndigheten 
är från telefonbolaget Telia. Detta är en katastrofräkning på 30456.00 skr 
(Datum, 2003-02-26).

I Sverige är det känt att folk har fått mycket höga telefonräkningar trots 
att de inte har använt telefonen. Den summan på 30456.00 skr jag har fått 
kan jag inte acceptera. Tyvärr kan ingen vinna över Telia – maffian - då de 
stöds av svenska myndigheter.

Som jag har nämnt tidigare angående kronofogdemaffian så verkar det som om 
de har stoppat mina pengar i sina egna fickor. Orsaken till mitt påstående 
kommer jag att förklara här. Under många år har jag betalat oerhörda summor 
till kronofogdemyndigheten och fortfarande är inte mina skulder betalda. När 
jag gjorde ett snabbt överslag av mina skulder fann jag att jag hade betalat 
in alldeles för mycket. Jag skrev då ett brev till kronofogdemyndigheten (se 
bilaga 1) där jag bad om kopior på vilka företag jag haft/har en skuld till, 
samt hur stor summan är/har varit. Räntan skulle specificeras. Detta brev 
lämnade jag personligen till kronofogdemyndigheten, till en kvinna vi namn 
Yvonne Karlsson, 2002-09-04. Några dagar senare fick jag ett annat brev från 
en kvinna vid namn Åsa Gunnarsson daterat 2002-09-04. Jag trodde då att det 
kanske var ett svar på min förfrågan men så var inte fallet. Jag skickade då 
även min förfrågan till henne. Jag har fortfarande inte fått något svar på 
mitt brev. Däremot har jag fått dessa papper från dem 2002-12-10 (bilaga 2) 
och 2003-01-14 (bilaga 3). Jag vill bara ta upp här vad 
kronofogdemyndigheten skriver i sitt brev från 2003-01-14, mer än 4 månader 
efter mitt brev som de inte orkat svara på:

Ni har tidigare underrättats om nedan förtecknade skulder. Eftersom ni inte 
har betalt, avser kronofogdemyndigheten att pröva om utmätning av er lön, 
pension m.m. kan ske. Utmätning av lön innebär att avdrag görs på er lön, 
pension m.m. hos arbetsgivaren eller försäkringskassan så att skulden blir 
betald.

För att kronofogdemyndigheten skall kunna bedöma hur stort avdrag som kan 
göras, är det viktigt – för er egen skull – att ni fyller i och skickar 
bifogade blankett till kronofogdemyndigheten senast den 30 januari 2003 
(använd svarskuvertet) Det går också bra att lämna uppgifterna per telefon.

Vill ni undvika att lön, pension m.m. tas i anspråk måste ni betala hela 
skulden omgående.

För ytterligare upplysningar kan ni vända er till kronofogdemyndigheten.

Handläggs av Yvonne Karlsson

Tala om fräckhet! Här har jag kontaktat dem upprepade gånger men de har inte 
ens orkat svara på mina förfrågningar. Sedan har de mage att skicka ett 
sådant papper som detta. Varje månad drar kronofogdemyndigheten 2 500 skr av 
min pension. Hur länge tänker de fortsätta med sin utsugning? Enligt ett 
utdrag ur kronofogdemyndighetens databas daterat 2002-12-10 (bilaga 2) har 7 
660 skr av mina pengar gått till att betala skulder. Då frågar jag, var har 
de andra pengarna tagit vägen?? De skulder som kronofogdemyndigheten nämner 
i sitt papper (bilaga 3) är skulder som redan finns hos dem och som de skall 
fördela mina 2 500 skr till, varje månad. Här är det inget tal om att inte 
betala när de drar pengar av mig just för att de skall göra just detta. Märk 
också att denna kvinna är densamma som jag gav brevet till i september 
månad, och som jag fortfarande inte fått svar på.

Detta är det svar jag gav kronofogdemyndigheten:

Ni har under åtskilliga år gjort avdrag på min lön och sedemera min pension. 
Nu visar det sig att ni kräver pengar för en skuld till SE-banken som redan 
är betald. Jag har även varit i kontakt med SE-banken som bekräftar att jag 
inte längre har någon skuld till dem. Som jag nämnt har ni under en mycket 
lång tid gjort avdrag på min inkomst. Ändå, skall jag enligt er, ha ett 
flertal skulder kvar att betala. Som ett exempel vill jag nämna en mycket 
gammal skuld till Landskronahem som fortfarande inte är betald. Allt detta 
får mig naturligtvis att undra var denna, under årens lopp, stora summa som 
ni har dragit har tagit vägen.

Jag har tidigare bett er att skicka papper på alla mina skulder och alla de 
utbetalningar som gjorts under alla dessa år. Men fast jag upprepande gånger 
har bett er att skicka dessa papper har ni underlåtit att göra detta. Ert 
ointresse och okänslighet för mitt fall ger mig ingen annan möjlighet an att 
föra vidare min klagan till Europadomstolen.

Jag ser ingen anledning att svara på era frågor när ni själva nonchalerar 
mina upprepande förfrågningar.

Jag har, inte överraskande, inte fått något svar på detta brev. Jag har rätt 
att få svar – jag har rätt att få redovisning - men inget har jag har fått. 
De håller tyst men vill stjäla pengar från mig livet ut och det kan jag inte 
acceptera.

Under samma tid, 2002-09-09, besökte jag även skattemyndigheten där jag 
också lämnade ett brev. Inte heller från dem fick jag något svar. 2003-01-28 
var jag igen hos skattemyndigheten för att ge dem brevet ännu en gång och 
fråga varför jag inte fått svar. Kvinnan jag pratade med sade att jag skulle 
ta upp detta med kronofogdemyndigheten istället eftersom de inte hade med 
detta att göra. Jag sade då till henne att eftersom det är de som betalar ut 
mina skattepengar till kronofogden så har jag rätt att få svar på mitt brev 
och en redovisning över de utbetalningar de gjort. Hon sade då att hon kunde 
ge mig uppgifter för de senaste 10 åren, men inte längre bak i tiden. De 
papper jag fick av henne är dessa. Dagen efter kom denna datorutskrift.

Jag lämnade också ett brev till försäkringskassan, 2002-09-06, eftersom här 
finns det starkaste beviset på hur mycket som har betalats ut till 
kronofogdemyndigheten men fast jag hade rätt att få svar fick jag inget. 
Efter flera månaders väntan gick jag den 2003-01-28 igen till 
försäkringskassan för att lämna samma brev. Jag talade då också med högste 
chefen Olle Guldstrand. Jag visade honom breven till försäkringskassan, 
kronofogdemyndigheten och skattemyndigheten och frågade honom varför jag 
inte fått svar på mina frågor. Jag sade också att jag tänkte stämma 
kronofogdemyndigheten till Europadomstolen och också skattemyndigheten och 
försäkringskassan för deras samarbete med kronofogdemyndigheten i denna 
stöld. Jag sade till honom att det inte kan vara rätt att först betala 400 
000 skr – 500 000 skr under dessa år på en sammanlagd skuld av ca 90 000 skr 
och ändå ha en skuld kvar som är högre nu än då. Jag sade också till honom 
att det var försäkringskassans ansvar att kontrollera hur mycket pengar som 
betalas ut och till vad. Olle Guldstrand sade då att kronofogdemyndigheten 
skickar papper och dokument och bestämmer hur mycket som skall dras, sedan 
gör försäkringskassan som de vill. När de gällde svaren på mina frågor sade 
han att det skulle jag ha fått och att jag hade rätt att kräva det. Han sade 
att jag skulle få uppgifter från dem snarast möjligt men att jag inte kunde 
få längre än 10 år tillbaka i tiden eftersom uppgifterna sedan försvinner 
(vilket är något som låter märkligt och som jag inte kan förstå). Inte 
överraskande bröt Olle Guldstrand sitt löfte och jag har således inte hört 
något ifrån honom eller fått några papper från försäkringskassan.

Under denna tid, när jag hade skrivit till kronofogdemyndigheten, 
skattemyndigheten och försäkringskassan och inte fått svar, blev jag 
naturligtvis orolig och försökte få juridisk hjälp.

Jag kontaktade och besökte flera advokater. Vissa var inte alls 
intresserade, andra krävde 10, 12, 15 000 kr i förskott vilket jag, med min 
låga inkomst, naturligtvis aldrig skulle kunna betala. Till slut hittade jag 
en advokat som var villig att hjälpa mig. När jag träffade advokat Johan 
Sjöström på advokatfirman Andersson & Sjöström, Parkgatan 2, 261 31 
Landskrona, visade jag honom de tre brev jag skrivit till dessa tre 
maffiakompanjoner och berättade i korta drag hur stora skulder jag haft från 
början, hur många år de dragit pengar från mig och hur höga skulder jag hade 
nu. Johan Sjöström var mycket positiv till fallet, tyckte själv att det jag 
hade betalat var för mycket, och skulle hjälpa mig. Jag var dock först 
tvungen att betala ett förskott på 1 500 skr till honom. Vi bestämde att vi 
skulle träffas 2002-10-16 då jag också skulle betala förskottet. När vi 
träffades igen överlämnade jag några viktiga dokument till honom plus det 
begärda förskottet. Han var fortfarande positiv till mitt fall och upprepade 
att jag hade betalat för mycket. Han skulle således börja arbeta med mitt 
fall omedelbart och kontakta kronofogdemyndigheten, skattemyndigheten och 
försäkringskassan. Han skulle sedan återkomma till mig snarast möjligt. 
Efter 2-3 veckor hade jag fortfarande inte hört något från Johan Sjöström 
och var därför tvungen att själv kontakta honom. När jag talade med honom 
per telefon var han inte lika positiv till fallet. Han sade att han hade 
kontaktat dem men fortfarande inte hört något från dem. Han nämnde 
emellertid något om ränta på ränta. Jag sade då till honom att eftersom 
varken han eller jag hade fått något svar från de berörda myndigheterna så 
ville jag att vi skulle stämma dem i tingsrätten. Han sade att i ett sådant 
här fall kunde man inte göra det. Det fanns ingen lag för ett sådant fall. 
Jag undrade då hur det kan vara så att det inte finns en lag som gör det 
möjligt för mig att stämma dem när de finns lagar som gör att de kan stämma 
mig. Han sade att det var en annan lag. Han sade också att vi skulle vänta 
och att han skulle kontakta dem igen. Jag väntade på ett svar från Johan 
Sjöström ända tills december månad, då jag kontaktade honom igen. Han sade 
till mig att han hade fått brev från kronofogdemyndigheten och att han 
skulle skicka detta till mig. Jag väntade på detta nya brev från 
kronofogdemyndigheten men inget kom. I början av januari månad ringde jag 
således till Johan Sjöström. Jag fick svaret att han hade skickat brevet 
till mig. Men det enda han hade skickat mig var de kopior jag tidigare gett 
honom. Jag sade igen till Johan Sjöström att jag ville stämma 
kronofogdemyndigheten, försäkringskassan och skattemyndigheten men han var 
lika kritisk till det som förra gången. Jag bad då honom, då han var min 
advokat, att ge förslag på vad jag skulle göra. Han sade då att han inte 
kunde göra mer för de pengar jag betalat honom (fast han hade inte gjort 
något för dem vilket jag också sade till honom) och att jag inte heller hade 
så mycket pengar att betala honom och att jag skulle veta att det inte fanns 
någon advokater i Sverige som kunde hjälpa mig med mitt fall. Jag sade då 
till Johan Sjöström att min enda möjlighet då är att personligen stämma 
dessa tre till Europadomstolen vilket låter sig göras om detta är en 
demokratisk, solidarisk och rättvis domstol. Min personliga uppfattning är 
att denna advokat har blivit köpt av dessa maffiamyndigheter.

Jag vänder mig således till Europadomstolen för att få hjälp att straffa 
dessa svenska myndigheters kriminella handlingar och därtill även att de 
betalar tillbaka de pengar de stulit av mig samt ränta och skadestånd. Det 
är inte meningen att de skall stjäla hundratusentals kronor av mig och sedan 
förvänta sig att jag skall fortsätta betala till den dag jag dör. Jag och 
min familj har under många år fått lida både psykiskt och ekonomiskt på 
grund av deras övergrepp. Jag kräver således ett skadestånd på 1 (en) miljon 
kronor plus ränta. Och eftersom västvärlden kallas för ett demokratiskt, 
rättvist och solidariskt samhälle vill jag att ni skall visa er demokrati. 
Detta utsugande av fattiga och sjuka måste stoppas och de ansvariga 
kriminella måste straffas. Som domstol räknar jag med att ni kan få fram 
alla bevis och fakta från dessa kriminella. Jag önskar att detta fall tas 
upp snarast möjligt, att de skyldiga straffas och mitt skadestånd betalas 
ut.

Tyvärr är det många gånger så att västmedia predikar rättvisa och 
solidaritet men bakom stängda dörrar finns kriminaliteten. Här i Sverige ser 
man varje dag på tv och läser i tidningar att invandrare är kriminella. Nu 
ser vi dock vem som egentligen är kriminell. Vi invandrare behandlas som 
tredje klassens medborgare, efter djuren. Detta håller media tyst om 
istället för att berätta sanningen om den västerländska ”rättvisan” och 
”solidariteten”.

Vad jag har upplevt i min kontakt med olika myndigheter är deras liknöjdhet 
och ointresse. Att något är fel kan vem som helst förstå, en skuld på 45 000 
skr 1987, kan inte efter 16 års betalning var uppe i 57 556 skr. Man behöver 
inte vara speciellt intelligent för att räkna ut detta. Tyvärr är det så att 
när jag har kontaktat myndigheterna så har de inte ens velat kontrollera 
detta. Det finns alltså inget sätt för mig att få fram sanningen då de som 
arbetar där antingen är liknöjda eller inblandade. Men jag vägrar fortsätta 
att bli avlurad 30 000 - 40 000 skr varje år livet ut och acceptera att mina 
skulder blir högre och högre Därför vänder jag mig till er som en sista 
chans att få rättvisa. Jag accepterar inte ett brev där ni skriver att ni 
inte kan göra någonting, då det är ert ansvar att hjälpa mig.

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FROM: Mats Hildeby redacted@advokatsamfundet.se
DATE: Mon, 7 Apr 2003 09:11:35 +0200
TO: "'redacted@xxxx-xxx.com'"  redacted@xxxx-xxx.com
SUBJECT: SV:

Ditt e-postmeddelande den 4 april 2003 åberopas. Om Du är missnöjd med 
advokat har Du möjlighet att hos Advokatsamfundet göra en disciplinanmälan 
mot den advokat Du är missnöjd med och genom sk. disciplinförfarande få 
prövat om advokaten handlat i överensstämmelse med god advokatsed. Anmälan 
måste vara undertecknad av Dig. Det går inte att göra anmälan per e-post. I 
övrigt har Advokatsamfundet inga möjligheter att hjälpa Dig med Dina 
problem.

Med vänlig hälsning

Mats Hildeby


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Ämne:


A D V O K A T  F R I R M A N
Andersson & Sjöström

Landskona 2003-04-10

Advokaten Bertil Andersson
Advokaten Johan Sjöström

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Jag tillskriver Dig med anledning av de kopior Du översänt till mig på mail 
til advokatsamfundet och Europadomstolen.

Jag inte delar Din beskrivning av min hantering av Dit ärenden.

Jag har varit i kontakt med Dig vid sju tillfällen efter vårt 
sammanträffande. Jag har efter sammanträffandet haft dels kontakt med 
kronofogdemyndigheten, dels de borgenärer som sökt utmätning mot Dig. Vidare 
har jag granskat de handlingar som Du översänt till mig angående de krav som 
riktas mot Dig.

Min bedömning, vilken jag vid två tillfällen delgivit Dig per telefon, har 
sedan varit att jag inte ser någon möjlighet för Dig till framgång genom att 
väcka talan mot de borgenärer och myndigheter som Du framfört önskemål om. 
Tyvärr är det nog så att de borgenärer som begärt utmätning hos Dig har 
lagligt rätt till detta och att detta grundar sig på korrekta utslag.


Med vänlig hälsning


Johan Sjöström



FROM: "Stockholm European Parliament" <redacted@europarl.eu.int>
DATE: Tue, 08 Apr 2003 15:53:15 +0200
TO: "vmro-mnm" <redacted@vmro-mnm.com>
SUBJECT: Information

Hej,
Om du anser dig ha blivit felaktigt eller orättvist behandlad av någon 
myndighet kan du vända dig till justitieombudsmannen, de tar dock endast 
emot skrifliga klagomål. Du kan läsa om vilka typer av ärenden de behandlar 
och om information om dess verksamhet på nedanstående webbplats, www.jo.se
Jag såg dock att de inte behandlar ärenden som är äldre än två år gamla, 
därför rekommenderar jag dig att ringa dem och fråga vart du kan vända dig 
för att få hjälp. Deras telefonnummer är 08-786 51 00 och telefontiden är 
vardagar mellan 9-15
Här är information om kontaktvägar till JO:

Adress: Riksdagensombudsmän
Box16327
10326Stockholm.
E-post: redacted@riksdagen.se
Fax:08-216558
Webbplats: www.jo.se

Hoppas att du får den hjälp du behöver där

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28 april 2003

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Vår ref.: 13585/03
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Kansliet för Europadomstolen för de mänskliga rättigheterna har mottagit Ert 
brev av den 2 april 2003 med bilagor, av vilket framgår att Ni önskar inge 
ett klagomål till domstolen.
Ärenden har getts ovan nämnda referensnummer. Ni skall hänvisa till detta 
nummer i fortsatt korrespondens.

Bifogat finner Ni en kopia av den europeiska konventionen om de mänskliga 
rättigheterna och dess protokoll (innehållande bland annat artiklarna 34 och 
35 i konventionen där kraven för ingivande av ett klagomål samt villkoren 
för upptagande av detsamma framgår), reglerna 45 och 47 i domstolens 
arbetsordning (utvisande vissa formella krav som måste uppfyllas och vilken 
uppgifter ett individuellt klagomål till domstolen måste innehålla) samt en 
anvisning (vilken sammanfattar de kriterier som gäller för domstolens 
prövning). Vidare bifogas ett klagoformulär, med en förklarande handledning, 
som bör användas för ett formellt klagomål om – och endast om – Ni efter en 
noggrann genomgång av de ovan nämnda dokumenten finner att Ert ärende 
uppfyller alla tillämpliga kriterier.

I detta sammanhang bör Ni observera att dagen för klagomålets 
anhängiggörande normalt anses vara dagen för det första brevet Ni insände, 
om detta brev anger huvuddragen i klagomålet och om relevanta dokument, 
inklusive klagoformuläret, insändes till domstolen utan dröjsmål. Om så inte 
sker, riskerar Ni att klagomålet anses inkommet vid en senare tidpunkt än 
det första brev till domstolen. Detta påverkar i sin tur bedömningen 
huruvida klagomålet har anförts i rätt tid, dvs. inom den i konventionens 
artikel 35 angivna sexmånadersfristen. Denna frist räknas från den dagen då 
Ni eller Ert ombud fick kännedom om den nationella domstolens eller 
myndighetens slutliga beslut.

Om Ni anser at Ert ärende uppfyller de tillämpliga kriterierna skall Ni 
fylla i klagoformuläret tydligt, fullstädigt och noggrant då det kommer att 
ligga till grund för domstolens bedömning. Till formuläret skall kopior av 
alla relevanta dokument bifogas, särskilt domar och beslut från inhemska 
domstolar eller myndigheter som Ni önskar klaga över inför domstolen. Nämnda 
dokumentation bör vara sådan att den utvisar att alla inhemska rättsmedel är 
uttömda i enlighet med artikel 35 & 1 i konventionen. Ni bör inte sända 
originalhandlingar då dessa ej kommer att återsändas till Er. Underlåtenhet 
att inkomma med relevant information kommer att resultera i att domstolen 
anslår Ert klagomål utan ytterligare förvarning.

I vilket fall som helst, om Ni skulle besluta att inte fullfölja talan eller 
om Ni inte besvarar detta brev eller något annat brev från domstolen kansli 
inom ett år från dess expediering, kommer Ert klagomål att anses våra 
återkallat och akten i ärendet kommer att förstöras.

Kanslichefen


Bol. Konvention och protokoll
         Anvisningar
         Klagoformulär och handledning
         Fullmaktsformulär (för juridiskt ombud)



BESLUT

Datum

2003-04-29

Dnr

1453-2003

-JO-

Justitieombudsmannen
Anna-Karin Lundin

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Er anmälan mot kronofogdemyndigheten m.fl.

Ni har till JO översänt en kopia av ett brev ställt till den europeiska 
domstolen för de mänskliga rättigheterna. I brevet har Ni klagat på 
kronofogdemyndighetens handläggning av ett mål om utmätning och anfört bl.a. 
att Era skulder ökat trots att utmätning under lång tid ägt rum av Er lön 
och pension.

Det som framgår av den skift som Ni skickat till JO är för allmänt hållet 
för att jag skall kunna inleda en utredning eller vidta någon annan åtgärd.

Ni har möjlighet att lämna en ny anmälan med mer preciserade uppgifter.

Beslut

Jag kommer inte att utreda Er anmälan.

Anna-Karin Lundin

Ingrid Åhman



REGERINGSKANSLIET

2003-06-06

HP 49 Y

Utrikesdepartementet
enheten för folkrätt, mänskliga rättigheter
och traktaträtt (FMR)

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Utrikesdepartementet mottog den 4 juli 2003 ett e-postmeddelande utfärdat i 
Ditt namn som bl.a. Innehåller texten till en skivelse ställd till 
Europadomstolen för de mänskliga rättigheterna i Strasbourg. Av meddelandet 
framgår inte om det rör sig om en kopia av en skivelse som även ingivits 
till domstolen, eller om avsikten är att den av Utrikesdepartementet skall 
vidarebefordras dit.

Jag skriver därför till Dig för att klargöra att klagomål mot Sverige inför 
Europadomstolen för de mänskliga rättigheterna skall inges direkt till 
domstolen kansli och inte vidarebefordras dit om de inställt inges till 
Utrikesdepartementet eller någon annan del av regeringskansliet.
Utrikesdepartementet har därför inte vidtagit några åtgärder med anledning 
av Ditt e-postmeddelande utan förutsätter att Du själv på lämpligt sätt 
ombesörjt att skrivelsen nått avsedd adressat.

Jag bifogar informationsmaterial beträffande förfarandet enligt 
Europakonventionen


Med vänliga hälsningar


Mattias Falk
Ämnessakkunnig



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FJÄRDE AVDELNINGEN

24 juni 2003

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Mål nr 13585/03
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Jag har mottagit Era brev med bilagor vilka ankom till domstolen den 13 maj, 
16 maj samt 28 maj 2003.

Domstolen kommer att behandla klagomålet så snart som möjligt på grundval av 
den information och de handlingar Ni inkommit med. Förfarandet är i princip 
skriftigt och Ni kommer inte att behöva inställa Er personligen såvida inte 
domstolen särskilt kallar Er. Ni kommer att underrättas om domstolens 
beslut.

Ni skall meddela mig eventuell adressändring. I den mån nya omständigheter 
som rör klagomålet tillkommer, skall Ni upplysa domstolen därom inkomma med 
kopior av relevanta avgöranden av domstolar och myndigheter.


Med vänlig hälsning
På kanslichefens vägnar


Anders Månsson
Rättssekreterare


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SVERIGE

Tel: + 46 418 XX XX XX
Mobitel: + 46 70 XXXXXXX

25 juni 2003

Till Europeiska domstolen för de mänskliga rättigheterna i Strasbourg – 
Frankrike!?
Mina problem i detta nazistiska, fascistiska, kriminella och maffia svenska 
samhället fortsätter. Jag får fortfarande kravbrev från maffia inkasso att 
jag skulle betala skulder och jag är fortfarande skuldregistrerad hos maffia 
kronofogdemyndigheten.

Nu i sista månaderna jag har mycket problem med min fru och vi ska separera 
just på grund av antidemokratiska svenska samhället. Jag började söka egen 
lägenhet och flytta från min familj. Jag har sökt många företag som hyr ut 
lägenheter, vissa företag sa till mig att lägenheterna är upptagna men när 
jag kollade deras Internet hemsidor är lägenheterna fortfarande lediga, 
detta beror att jag är utlänning så jag har inte fått lägenhet. Vissa 
företag som hyr ut lägenheter har gjort kontroll en kreditupplysning i 
Stockholm i kreditupplysnings papper står det att jag fortfarande har 
skulder. Tack för de kvarstående skulderna och kronofogdemyndigheternas 
register de företagen som vill hyra ut lägenhet till mig kan inte godkänna 
eftersom jag har gamla skulder och kronofogderegister.  Detta är mycket stor 
och allvarlig kränkliga och diskrämnäring. Svenska myndigheterna som har 
kränkt och diskrämnäring och har det gjort grovt kriminell mot min ekonomi 
och min mycket dåliga hälsa jag kan inte låta de in fortsättning att 
diskriminera mina mänskliga rättligheter. Så jag kräver av er att kontakta 
med svenska myndigheterna och säga till de att omedelbart ta bort gamla 
skulder och kronofogdemyndigheternas skuld register.
Ni i ert brev av den 28 april skriver detta:  (I vilket fall som helst, om 
Ni skulle besluta att inte fullfölja talan eller om Ni inte besvarar detta 
brev eller något annat brev från domstolen kansli inom ett år från dess 
expediering, kommer Ert klagomål att anses våra återkallat och akten i 
ärendet kommer att förstöras). Ni vet att jag inte kan acceptera detta som 
ni har skrivit. Ni vet att svenska myndigheter har stulit hundratusentals 
skr av mig. Så jag kräver igen så fort som möjligt att ha mina stulna pengar 
åter betalas med skadestånd på en miljon skr och ränta. Om jag inte har fått 
mitt rättighetskrav inom trettio dagar, så kommer jag att skriva 
påminnelsebrev till er med ränta på ränta. Om ni inte accepterar detta eller 
inte straffar kriminella myndigheter så jag är tvungen att provocera att 
söka en annan väg att få mina stulna pengar tillbacka. När era Väst europa 
(Väst vård) företags chefer, direktörer och politiker fuskar med miljard 
tals kr, dollar, euro mm för att inte betala skatt, de fuskar att få 
miljontals ersättningar, pension och mm. Så vanliga folket har också rätt 
att kräva sina rättigheter från antidemokratiska väst vård samhälle och 
västvärldens biockratiska kriminella gubbar.

Jag är mycket ledsen besviken och arg på västvärldens antidemokratiskt, 
biockratiskt och kriminella samhälle.


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Letter from the CVRIA Court of First Instance of the European Communities


CVRIA  Europeiska gemenskapernas förstainstansrätt

LUXEMBOURG

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Bäste Xxxxxxx Xxxxxxxxx!
Justitiesekreteraren vid Europeiska gemenskapernas förstainstansrätt 
bekräftar härmed mottagandet av Ert e-mail av den 4 april 2003.

Jag vill redan här nämna, att  förstainstansrätten endast är rätt instans 
för handläggning av mål mellan privatpersoner (fysiska eller juriska) och en 
av gemenskapens instutitioner. Fysiska eller juridiska personer kan inte 
anhängiggöra ett mål i förstainstansrätten mot beslut eller åtgärder tagna 
av nationella myndigheter i en medlemsstat. Inte heller kan domar och beslut 
av nationella domstolar upphävas eller ändras av förstainstansrätten.

Er uppmärksamhet riktas vidare på de formella krav på en ansökan som måste 
vara uppfyllda enligt förstainstansrättens rättegångsregler.

För att kunna anhängiggöra en ansökan hos förstainstansrätten, måste 
sökandet vara representerad av en advokat som har rätt att uppträda i en 
medlemsstats domstol (Artikel 43.1 i förstainstansrättens rättegångsregler). 
En ansökan som inte är undertecknad av en advokat kan inte registreras.

Med anledning av ovanstående, beklagar justitiesekreteraren att 
förstainstansrätten inte kan behandla Ert brev.


Luxembourg, 24 juni 2003

CVRIA

H. Jung
Justitiesekreterare


Bil. Europeiska Gemenskapernas Domstol och förstainstansrätt.

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2003-04-02

Till Europadomstolen i Strasbourg

Jag skriver till er angående mina problem i detta nazistiska, fascistiska 
och kriminella, svenska samhälle. I detta land har jag utsatts för 
bedrägliga och kränkande handlingar av svenska kriminella myndigheter som 
stulit hundratusentals kronor av mig.

1987 öppnade jag ett företag. Jag lånade då 45 000 skr på SE-banken. Jag tog 
också lån på Nordbanken (+checkräkningskredit). Därutöver köpte jag 
kontorsmöbler på IKEA och kontorsmaterial på Gleerups, allt på faktura, mm.
Tyvärr gick inte företaget bra och för att kunna överleva var jag tvungen 
att avregistrera mitt företag. Hade jag bara hållit ut en månad till, då jag 
blev erbjuden ett arbete av ett stort byggnadsföretag i Sverige, hade min 
lycka varit gjord.

1988 började jag arbeta på ett slakteri. Jag började då också betala av på 
min skuld med 1 250 kr som automatiskt drogs från min lön varannan vecka.
Lite mer än ett år senare var min skuld på 45 000 skr till SE-banken betald 
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Subject: Poraka i materijali do makedonskite novinari (mediumi) od VMRO-MNM
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 09:45:13 +0000

Poraka i materijali do makedonskite novinari (mediumi) od Makedonskata 
komitska i patriotska organizacija VMRO-MNM (Makedonija na Makedoncite)!

10 juli 2003 g.

Pochituvani Dami i gospodo novinari na makedoskite mediumi?

Ako ste realni i chesni novinari, pokazhete ja Vashata realnost i chesnost 
pa objavite go vo Vashite mediumi ovaj materijal. Materijalot e napishan na 
shvetski jazik. Koj shto eden nash sonarodnik makedonec ja ima tuzheno na 
Evropskiot sud za chovekovi prava vo Strasbourg anti demokratskoto, 
ekstremistichko, rasistichko i kriminalno opstestvo na shvedska. Vie kako 
novinari mozhete da se snajdete da ovaj materijal go prevedete na makedonski 
jazik i da go objavete do posleden zbor. Poshto tuka ima pisma od evropskiot 
sud i. dr. koj shto nashite makedonci treba da se zapoznaat za zapadnite 
anti demokratski, rasistichki i kriminalni opstestva. Vie kako 
novinari-mediumi ste dolzhni da ja zapoznavate makedonskata javnost za i so 
nashite makedonci shto se naprivremen pristoj i na rabota vo dijasporata (vo 
zapadot). Tuka se raboti za ogromni diskrimnacii protiv strancite, 
prekrshuvanje na chovekovi prava na strancite, narodno zagrozuvanje na 
strancite vo zapadnite zemji i orgromni kriminali so pljachkanje na pari na 
pari na strancite, koj shto eden od niv e nashiot sogragjanin brat 
makedonec. Identitetot na nashiot brat makedonec e poznato vo organizacijata 
VMRO-MNM. Ako ovaj materijal ne se objavi togash ne sakam da chujam za 
nekavi makedonski mediumi. Togash tie makedonski novinari se korumptirani i 
tie makeodnski mediumi se protiv zastita na makedonskite nacionali interesi 
i ste protiv za zashtita na ogromnite diskriminacii na nashite makedonci vo 
zapadniot svet i poshiroko. I Vie bi bile korumptirani kako taka narechenite 
makedonski politichari sgto se totalno korumptirani. A i vo toj smisol 
makedonskite mediumi gji podrzhavat zapadnite anti demokratski opstestva i 
nivnite biogratski kriminali i korumptirani politichki faktori. Toa kje bide 
deka makedonskite mediumi gji podrzhavate zapadnite anti demokratski, 
biokratski, kriminalni, ekstremistichki, rasistichki i korumptirani 
institucii i asosijacii. Ako ovaj materijal se objavi vo makeodnskite 
mediumi togash zapadnite anti demokratski, biokratski, ekstremistichki, 
rasistichki, kriminalni i korumptirani politichki faktori kje prestanat da 
izigravat i da go lazhat makedonskiot narod vo makeodnija deka nivnite 
zapadni zemji se "demkratski, realni i solidarni zemji (opstestva)".

Shansite na nashiot brat makedonec se naj verovatno na 0%. Nashiot brat 
makedonec nema Advokat za da go brani, poshto ovde vo zapadnite zemji 
advokatite ne gji branat strancite, niti pak nivnite javno oviniteli i 
sudstvoto ne sakat da gji napagjat i osuduvat nivnite zapadni braka. 
Zapadnite advokati gi branat na strancite samo za molzenje na pari, a od 
koga na stranite im se potrishat parite togash advokatite se otkazhuvat. Nie 
od organizacijata VMRO-MNM veruvame i sme ubedeni deka Evropskiot sud za 
chovekovi prava vo Strasbourg–Cedex Francija nema da gji osudi i kazne 
nivnite zapadni anti demokrati, ekstremisti, rasisti, biokrati, kriminalci i 
korimptirani braka, nego kje donese odluka vo prilog na svedskoto, anti 
demokratkoto, ekstremistichko, rasistichko, kriminalno i korumptirano 
opstestvo. Veruvame i sme ubedeni deka "Evropskiot sud za chovekovi prava vo 
Strasbourg–Cedex Francija" nema da gji osudi i kazni nivnite zapadni anti 
demokrati, biokrati, ekstremisti, rasisti, kriminalci i korumptirani braka 
za eden stranec shto ne e chovek od zapadnite nacionalnosti. Sepak nie od 
organizacijata VMRO-MNM im isprativme na "Evropskiot sud za chovekovi prava 
vo Strasbourg–Cedex Francija"  masivno na nashi materijali kako vo plikovi 
preko poshta taka i preko nashi elektronski e-mail poshti. Isto tka nie toj 
materijal go isprakjame shirom celiot svet, se razbira do site svetski 
politichki i von politichki faktori, institucii i asosijacii. Dokolku 
nashiot brat makedonec dobie negativna odluka, za koj i ochekuvame. Iako 
nashiot brat makedonec e 100% vo pravo i ima pravo da go dobie toa shto go 
bara, poshto shveckite anti demokrati, ekstremisti, rasisti, kriminalci i 
biokrati mu imat pljachkano pari vekje nekolku godini i mu imat praveno 
golemi zagrozuvanja i diskriminacii. Kako shto rekov ako dobie nashiot brat 
makedonec negativna odluka togash nie od organizacijata VMRO-MNM kje gji 
prezememe problemite i katastrofalnite konsenkvencii vo nashi race i vo 
idnina kje bidat so ogromni finaciski i materijalno oshteteni zapadnite 
zemji. Zapadnite zemji nema da bidat oshteteni samo za nashit brat 
makedonec, nego kje bidat oshteteni so ogromni finacii i matrealno kako i so 
masivno likvidiranje na nivni vojvonici i fanatici shto se vo makedonija, a 
za toa site nie makedonci znaeme kakvi agresii, i pljacki imat praveno vo 
makedonija pa i etnichki chistenja i genocid nad makedonskiot narod....

So pochit

Od eden seriozen, chesen, realen i gord komita i patriot i chlen na 
organizacijata VMRO-MNM (Makedonija na Makedoncite)
MACEDONIAN REVOLUTIONARY
E-mail adresa: redacted@hotmail.com


Letter to the European Court of Human Rights Council of Europe 
Strasbourg-Cedex FRANCE!

Brev till Europeiska domstolen för de mänskliga rättigheterna i 
Strasbourg–Cedex Frankrike!?
OCH MM....


Xxxxxxx Xxxxxxxxx
Pers nr. XXXXXX-XXXX
Xxxxxxxx XXX X
XXX XX LANDSKRONA
SVERIGE

Tel: + 46 418 XX XX XX
Mobitel: + 46 70 XXXXXXX

2003-04-02

Till Europadomstolen i Strasbourg
Jag skriver till er angående mina problem i detta nazistiska, fascistiska 
och kriminella, svenska samhälle. I detta land har jag utsatts för 
bedrägliga och kränkande handlingar av svenska kriminella myndigheter som 
stulit hundratusentals kronor av mig.

1987 öppnade jag ett företag. Jag lånade då 45 000 skr på SE-banken. Jag tog 
också lån på Nordbanken (+checkräkningskredit). Därutöver köpte jag 
kontorsmöbler på IKEA och kontorsmaterial på Gleerups, allt på faktura, mm. 
Tyvärr gick inte företaget bra och för att kunna överleva var jag tvungen 
att avregistrera mitt företag. Hade jag bara hållit ut en månad till, då jag 
blev erbjuden ett arbete av ett stort byggnadsföretag i Sverige, hade min 
lycka varit gjord.

1988 började jag arbeta på ett slakteri. Jag började då också betala av på 
min skuld med 1 250 kr som automatiskt drogs från min lön varannan vecka. 
Lite mer än ett år senare var min skuld på 45 000 skr till SE-banken betald 
– endast räntan återstod. Jag fortsatte då att betala 1 000 skr/mån till 
detta. Tyvärr skadades jag allvarligt på mitt arbete vilket betydde att jag 
blev långtidssjukskriven. Jag fortsatte ändå att betala av på räntan till 
SE-banken. Problemet var att även kronofogdemyndigheten gjorde avdrag på min 
sjukinkomst med mellan 1 000 – 1 500 skr/mån. Till slut med min dåliga (och 
fortsatt dåliga) inkomst kändes detta ohållbart och jag slutade betala till 
SE-banken. Kronofogdemyndigheten tog då över alla skulder.

Kronofogdemyndigheten har alltså dragit pengar från mig under hela tiden. 
Både under min sjukskrivning och sedan när jag blev förtidspensionär. Summan 
har varit ca 2 500 skr/mån (någon gång 2 800 skr). De har också lagt beslag 
på min överskjutande skatt. Denna summa har varierat beroende på hur mycket 
skatt jag betalat in men den har legat på mellan 6 000 kr – 9 000 kr. Allt 
som allt har kronofogdemyndigheten dragit ca 30 000 – 40 000 skr av mig 
varje år.

Som nämnts tidigare så började jag betala av på min skuld till SE-banken 
1988 och lite mer än ett år senare var skulden betald. Det skrämmande är att 
år 2000 betalade jag 18 805,34 skr i ränta till SE-banken. Detta är alltså 
ca 10 år senare! Både skulden och räntan har alltså betalats tillbaka med 
åtminstone ett fyrdubbelt belopp. Men det som är mer skrämmande är att år 
2002 fick jag papper om att jag fortfarande inte var kvitt skulden till 
SE-banken utan var skyldig dem 54 739 skr! När jag kontaktade SE-banken 
angående detta sade de att jag inte var skyldig dem något, att skulden var 
betald. Men enligt ett papper från kronofogdemyndigheten daterat 2003-03-12 
är nu skulden till SE-banken 57 556 skr. Detta är en höjning på skulden på 2 
817 skr på ett år. Då kan man börja undra var de ca 2 500 skr tar vägen som 
de drar av mig varje månad. De har i alla fall inte använt dem till att 
betala skulder.

Min dåliga hälsa och mitt handikapp har inneburit otaliga läkarbesök och 
dyra mediciner. Detta och min redan dåliga ekonomi på grund av mycket låg 
inkomst tillsammans med kronofogdens avdrag gjorde att jag 1996 fick problem 
med att betala min hyra. Min hyresskuld var då 8 848 kr inklusive ränta. I 
1997, då kronofogdemyndigheten tog över skulden, var den på 10 679 skr 
exklusive ränta! Inklusive ränta skulle jag då betala 12 896 skr. Vad jag 
inte kan förstå är hur kapitalskulden kan förändras. Att det tillkommer 
ränta är inget egendomligt (den skall dock vara rimlig) men att själva 
kapitalskulden växer osar lurendrejeri! En annan sak angående den skulden är 
att den i dag, 2003, är på 5 300 skr + ränta 729,28 skr = 6 029,28 skr. 
Detta betyder att av de ca 2 500 skr kronofogdemyndigheten drar av mig varje 
månad så har, på 5,5 år, 6 866,72 skr gått till denna skuld (skulden skulle 
egentligen idag vara på 8 848 – 6 866,72 = 1 981,28 skr och inte 6 029,28). 
Det blir alltså 104 kr i månaden! Då kan man naturligtvis fråga sig var de 
andra pengarna tagit vägen för som vi kan se så har de inte gått till mina 
skulder. Alla de skulder jag har finns på kronofogdemyndigheten. Deras 
skyldighet, med alla de pengar de drar av mig, är att se till att alla 
skulder betalas (och att det sker med en gnutta förstånd, hyresskulden 
skulle ha kunnat vara betald för flera år sedan). Men som det ser ut verkar 
de har stoppat dessa pengar i sina egna fickor. Min orsak till att komma med 
detta påstående kommer jag att ta upp senare i detta brev.

Jag har under alla dessa år betalat mellan 400 000 – 500 000 skr. Kvar är 
skulder på ca 250 000 skr. En sådan hög summa hade jag inte 1989.

En annan räkning som jag har och som också finns hos kronofogdemyndigheten 
är från telefonbolaget Telia. Detta är en katastrofräkning på 30456.00 skr 
(Datum, 2003-02-26).

I Sverige är det känt att folk har fått mycket höga telefonräkningar trots 
att de inte har använt telefonen. Den summan på 30456.00 skr jag har fått 
kan jag inte acceptera. Tyvärr kan ingen vinna över Telia – maffian - då de 
stöds av svenska myndigheter.

Som jag har nämnt tidigare angående kronofogdemaffian så verkar det som om 
de har stoppat mina pengar i sina egna fickor. Orsaken till mitt påstående 
kommer jag att förklara här. Under många år har jag betalat oerhörda summor 
till kronofogdemyndigheten och fortfarande är inte mina skulder betalda. När 
jag gjorde ett snabbt överslag av mina skulder fann jag att jag hade betalat 
in alldeles för mycket. Jag skrev då ett brev till kronofogdemyndigheten (se 
bilaga 1) där jag bad om kopior på vilka företag jag haft/har en skuld till, 
samt hur stor summan är/har varit. Räntan skulle specificeras. Detta brev 
lämnade jag personligen till kronofogdemyndigheten, till en kvinna vi namn 
Yvonne Karlsson, 2002-09-04. Några dagar senare fick jag ett annat brev från 
en kvinna vid namn Åsa Gunnarsson daterat 2002-09-04. Jag trodde då att det 
kanske var ett svar på min förfrågan men så var inte fallet. Jag skickade då 
även min förfrågan till henne. Jag har fortfarande inte fått något svar på 
mitt brev. Däremot har jag fått dessa papper från dem 2002-12-10 (bilaga 2) 
och 2003-01-14 (bilaga 3). Jag vill bara ta upp här vad 
kronofogdemyndigheten skriver i sitt brev från 2003-01-14, mer än 4 månader 
efter mitt brev som de inte orkat svara på:

Ni har tidigare underrättats om nedan förtecknade skulder. Eftersom ni inte 
har betalt, avser kronofogdemyndigheten att pröva om utmätning av er lön, 
pension m.m. kan ske. Utmätning av lön innebär att avdrag görs på er lön, 
pension m.m. hos arbetsgivaren eller försäkringskassan så att skulden blir 
betald.

För att kronofogdemyndigheten skall kunna bedöma hur stort avdrag som kan 
göras, är det viktigt – för er egen skull – att ni fyller i och skickar 
bifogade blankett till kronofogdemyndigheten senast den 30 januari 2003 
(använd svarskuvertet) Det går också bra att lämna uppgifterna per telefon.

Vill ni undvika att lön, pension m.m. tas i anspråk måste ni betala hela 
skulden omgående.

För ytterligare upplysningar kan ni vända er till kronofogdemyndigheten.

Handläggs av Yvonne Karlsson

Tala om fräckhet! Här har jag kontaktat dem upprepade gånger men de har inte 
ens orkat svara på mina förfrågningar. Sedan har de mage att skicka ett 
sådant papper som detta. Varje månad drar kronofogdemyndigheten 2 500 skr av 
min pension. Hur länge tänker de fortsätta med sin utsugning? Enligt ett 
utdrag ur kronofogdemyndighetens databas daterat 2002-12-10 (bilaga 2) har 7 
660 skr av mina pengar gått till att betala skulder. Då frågar jag, var har 
de andra pengarna tagit vägen?? De skulder som kronofogdemyndigheten nämner 
i sitt papper (bilaga 3) är skulder som redan finns hos dem och som de skall 
fördela mina 2 500 skr till, varje månad. Här är det inget tal om att inte 
betala när de drar pengar av mig just för att de skall göra just detta. Märk 
också att denna kvinna är densamma som jag gav brevet till i september 
månad, och som jag fortfarande inte fått svar på.

Detta är det svar jag gav kronofogdemyndigheten:

Ni har under åtskilliga år gjort avdrag på min lön och sedemera min pension. 
Nu visar det sig att ni kräver pengar för en skuld till SE-banken som redan 
är betald. Jag har även varit i kontakt med SE-banken som bekräftar att jag 
inte längre har någon skuld till dem. Som jag nämnt har ni under en mycket 
lång tid gjort avdrag på min inkomst. Ändå, skall jag enligt er, ha ett 
flertal skulder kvar att betala. Som ett exempel vill jag nämna en mycket 
gammal skuld till Landskronahem som fortfarande inte är betald. Allt detta 
får mig naturligtvis att undra var denna, under årens lopp, stora summa som 
ni har dragit har tagit vägen.

Jag har tidigare bett er att skicka papper på alla mina skulder och alla de 
utbetalningar som gjorts under alla dessa år. Men fast jag upprepande gånger 
har bett er att skicka dessa papper har ni underlåtit att göra detta. Ert 
ointresse och okänslighet för mitt fall ger mig ingen annan möjlighet an att 
föra vidare min klagan till Europadomstolen.

Jag ser ingen anledning att svara på era frågor när ni själva nonchalerar 
mina upprepande förfrågningar.

Jag har, inte överraskande, inte fått något svar på detta brev. Jag har rätt 
att få svar – jag har rätt att få redovisning - men inget har jag har fått. 
De håller tyst men vill stjäla pengar från mig livet ut och det kan jag inte 
acceptera.

Under samma tid, 2002-09-09, besökte jag även skattemyndigheten där jag 
också lämnade ett brev. Inte heller från dem fick jag något svar. 2003-01-28 
var jag igen hos skattemyndigheten för att ge dem brevet ännu en gång och 
fråga varför jag inte fått svar. Kvinnan jag pratade med sade att jag skulle 
ta upp detta med kronofogdemyndigheten istället eftersom de inte hade med 
detta att göra. Jag sade då till henne att eftersom det är de som betalar ut 
mina skattepengar till kronofogden så har jag rätt att få svar på mitt brev 
och en redovisning över de utbetalningar de gjort. Hon sade då att hon kunde 
ge mig uppgifter för de senaste 10 åren, men inte längre bak i tiden. De 
papper jag fick av henne är dessa. Dagen efter kom denna datorutskrift.

Jag lämnade också ett brev till försäkringskassan, 2002-09-06, eftersom här 
finns det starkaste beviset på hur mycket som har betalats ut till 
kronofogdemyndigheten men fast jag hade rätt att få svar fick jag inget. 
Efter flera månaders väntan gick jag den 2003-01-28 igen till 
försäkringskassan för att lämna samma brev. Jag talade då också med högste 
chefen Olle Guldstrand. Jag visade honom breven till försäkringskassan, 
kronofogdemyndigheten och skattemyndigheten och frågade honom varför jag 
inte fått svar på mina frågor. Jag sade också att jag tänkte stämma 
kronofogdemyndigheten till Europadomstolen och också skattemyndigheten och 
försäkringskassan för deras samarbete med kronofogdemyndigheten i denna 
stöld. Jag sade till honom att det inte kan vara rätt att först betala 400 
000 skr – 500 000 skr under dessa år på en sammanlagd skuld av ca 90 000 skr 
och ändå ha en skuld kvar som är högre nu än då. Jag sade också till honom 
att det var försäkringskassans ansvar att kontrollera hur mycket pengar som 
betalas ut och till vad. Olle Guldstrand sade då att kronofogdemyndigheten 
skickar papper och dokument och bestämmer hur mycket som skall dras, sedan 
gör försäkringskassan som de vill. När de gällde svaren på mina frågor sade 
han att det skulle jag ha fått och att jag hade rätt att kräva det. Han sade 
att jag skulle få uppgifter från dem snarast möjligt men att jag inte kunde 
få längre än 10 år tillbaka i tiden eftersom uppgifterna sedan försvinner 
(vilket är något som låter märkligt och som jag inte kan förstå). Inte 
överraskande bröt Olle Guldstrand sitt löfte och jag har således inte hört 
något ifrån honom eller fått några papper från försäkringskassan.

Under denna tid, när jag hade skrivit till kronofogdemyndigheten, 
skattemyndigheten och försäkringskassan och inte fått svar, blev jag 
naturligtvis orolig och försökte få juridisk hjälp.

Jag kontaktade och besökte flera advokater. Vissa var inte alls 
intresserade, andra krävde 10, 12, 15 000 kr i förskott vilket jag, med min 
låga inkomst, naturligtvis aldrig skulle kunna betala. Till slut hittade jag 
en advokat som var villig att hjälpa mig. När jag träffade advokat Johan 
Sjöström på advokatfirman Andersson & Sjöström, Parkgatan 2, 261 31 
Landskrona, visade jag honom de tre brev jag skrivit till dessa tre 
maffiakompanjoner och berättade i korta drag hur stora skulder jag haft från 
början, hur många år de dragit pengar från mig och hur höga skulder jag hade 
nu. Johan Sjöström var mycket positiv till fallet, tyckte själv att det jag 
hade betalat var för mycket, och skulle hjälpa mig. Jag var dock först 
tvungen att betala ett förskott på 1 500 skr till honom. Vi bestämde att vi 
skulle träffas 2002-10-16 då jag också skulle betala förskottet. När vi 
träffades igen överlämnade jag några viktiga dokument till honom plus det 
begärda förskottet. Han var fortfarande positiv till mitt fall och upprepade 
att jag hade betalat för mycket. Han skulle således börja arbeta med mitt 
fall omedelbart och kontakta kronofogdemyndigheten, skattemyndigheten och 
försäkringskassan. Han skulle sedan återkomma till mig snarast möjligt. 
Efter 2-3 veckor hade jag fortfarande inte hört något från Johan Sjöström 
och var därför tvungen att själv kontakta honom. När jag talade med honom 
per telefon var han inte lika positiv till fallet. Han sade att han hade 
kontaktat dem men fortfarande inte hört något från dem. Han nämnde 
emellertid något om ränta på ränta. Jag sade då till honom att eftersom 
varken han eller jag hade fått något svar från de berörda myndigheterna så 
ville jag att vi skulle stämma dem i tingsrätten. Han sade att i ett sådant 
här fall kunde man inte göra det. Det fanns ingen lag för ett sådant fall. 
Jag undrade då hur det kan vara så att det inte finns en lag som gör det 
möjligt för mig att stämma dem när de finns lagar som gör att de kan stämma 
mig. Han sade att det var en annan lag. Han sade också att vi skulle vänta 
och att han skulle kontakta dem igen. Jag väntade på ett svar från Johan 
Sjöström ända tills december månad, då jag kontaktade honom igen. Han sade 
till mig att han hade fått brev från kronofogdemyndigheten och att han 
skulle skicka detta till mig. Jag väntade på detta nya brev från 
kronofogdemyndigheten men inget kom. I början av januari månad ringde jag 
således till Johan Sjöström. Jag fick svaret att han hade skickat brevet 
till mig. Men det enda han hade skickat mig var de kopior jag tidigare gett 
honom. Jag sade igen till Johan Sjöström att jag ville stämma 
kronofogdemyndigheten, försäkringskassan och skattemyndigheten men han var 
lika kritisk till det som förra gången. Jag bad då honom, då han var min 
advokat, att ge förslag på vad jag skulle göra. Han sade då att han inte 
kunde göra mer för de pengar jag betalat honom (fast han hade inte gjort 
något för dem vilket jag också sade till honom) och att jag inte heller hade 
så mycket pengar att betala honom och att jag skulle veta att det inte fanns 
någon advokater i Sverige som kunde hjälpa mig med mitt fall. Jag sade då 
till Johan Sjöström att min enda möjlighet då är att personligen stämma 
dessa tre till Europadomstolen vilket låter sig göras om detta är en 
demokratisk, solidarisk och rättvis domstol. Min personliga uppfattning är 
att denna advokat har blivit köpt av dessa maffiamyndigheter.

Jag vänder mig således till Europadomstolen för att få hjälp att straffa 
dessa svenska myndigheters kriminella handlingar och därtill även att de 
betalar tillbaka de pengar de stulit av mig samt ränta och skadestånd. Det 
är inte meningen att de skall stjäla hundratusentals kronor av mig och sedan 
förvänta sig att jag skall fortsätta betala till den dag jag dör. Jag och 
min familj har under många år fått lida både psykiskt och ekonomiskt på 
grund av deras övergrepp. Jag kräver således ett skadestånd på 1 (en) miljon 
kronor plus ränta. Och eftersom västvärlden kallas för ett demokratiskt, 
rättvist och solidariskt samhälle vill jag att ni skall visa er demokrati. 
Detta utsugande av fattiga och sjuka måste stoppas och de ansvariga 
kriminella måste straffas. Som domstol räknar jag med att ni kan få fram 
alla bevis och fakta från dessa kriminella. Jag önskar att detta fall tas 
upp snarast möjligt, att de skyldiga straffas och mitt skadestånd betalas 
ut.

Tyvärr är det många gånger så att västmedia predikar rättvisa och 
solidaritet men bakom stängda dörrar finns kriminaliteten. Här i Sverige ser 
man varje dag på tv och läser i tidningar att invandrare är kriminella. Nu 
ser vi dock vem som egentligen är kriminell. Vi invandrare behandlas som 
tredje klassens medborgare, efter djuren. Detta håller media tyst om 
istället för att berätta sanningen om den västerländska ”rättvisan” och 
”solidariteten”.

Vad jag har upplevt i min kontakt med olika myndigheter är deras liknöjdhet 
och ointresse. Att något är fel kan vem som helst förstå, en skuld på 45 000 
skr 1987, kan inte efter 16 års betalning var uppe i 57 556 skr. Man behöver 
inte vara speciellt intelligent för att räkna ut detta. Tyvärr är det så att 
när jag har kontaktat myndigheterna så har de inte ens velat kontrollera 
detta. Det finns alltså inget sätt för mig att få fram sanningen då de som 
arbetar där antingen är liknöjda eller inblandade. Men jag vägrar fortsätta 
att bli avlurad 30 000 - 40 000 skr varje år livet ut och acceptera att mina 
skulder blir högre och högre Därför vänder jag mig till er som en sista 
chans att få rättvisa. Jag accepterar inte ett brev där ni skriver att ni 
inte kan göra någonting, då det är ert ansvar att hjälpa mig.

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FROM: Mats Hildeby redacted@advokatsamfundet.se
DATE: Mon, 7 Apr 2003 09:11:35 +0200
TO: "'redacted@xxxx-xxx.com'"  redacted@xxxx-xxx.com
SUBJECT: SV:

Ditt e-postmeddelande den 4 april 2003 åberopas. Om Du är missnöjd med 
advokat har Du möjlighet att hos Advokatsamfundet göra en disciplinanmälan 
mot den advokat Du är missnöjd med och genom sk. disciplinförfarande få 
prövat om advokaten handlat i överensstämmelse med god advokatsed. Anmälan 
måste vara undertecknad av Dig. Det går inte att göra anmälan per e-post. I 
övrigt har Advokatsamfundet inga möjligheter att hjälpa Dig med Dina 
problem.

Med vänlig hälsning

Mats Hildeby


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Ämne:


A D V O K A T  F R I R M A N
Andersson & Sjöström

Landskona 2003-04-10

Advokaten Bertil Andersson
Advokaten Johan Sjöström

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Jag tillskriver Dig med anledning av de kopior Du översänt till mig på mail 
til advokatsamfundet och Europadomstolen.

Jag inte delar Din beskrivning av min hantering av Dit ärenden.

Jag har varit i kontakt med Dig vid sju tillfällen efter vårt 
sammanträffande. Jag har efter sammanträffandet haft dels kontakt med 
kronofogdemyndigheten, dels de borgenärer som sökt utmätning mot Dig. Vidare 
har jag granskat de handlingar som Du översänt till mig angående de krav som 
riktas mot Dig.

Min bedömning, vilken jag vid två tillfällen delgivit Dig per telefon, har 
sedan varit att jag inte ser någon möjlighet för Dig till framgång genom att 
väcka talan mot de borgenärer och myndigheter som Du framfört önskemål om. 
Tyvärr är det nog så att de borgenärer som begärt utmätning hos Dig har 
lagligt rätt till detta och att detta grundar sig på korrekta utslag.


Med vänlig hälsning


Johan Sjöström



FROM: "Stockholm European Parliament" <redacted@europarl.eu.int>
DATE: Tue, 08 Apr 2003 15:53:15 +0200
TO: "vmro-mnm" <redacted@vmro-mnm.com>
SUBJECT: Information

Hej,
Om du anser dig ha blivit felaktigt eller orättvist behandlad av någon 
myndighet kan du vända dig till justitieombudsmannen, de tar dock endast 
emot skrifliga klagomål. Du kan läsa om vilka typer av ärenden de behandlar 
och om information om dess verksamhet på nedanstående webbplats, www.jo.se
Jag såg dock att de inte behandlar ärenden som är äldre än två år gamla, 
därför rekommenderar jag dig att ringa dem och fråga vart du kan vända dig 
för att få hjälp. Deras telefonnummer är 08-786 51 00 och telefontiden är 
vardagar mellan 9-15
Här är information om kontaktvägar till JO:

Adress: Riksdagensombudsmän
Box16327
10326Stockholm.
E-post: redacted@riksdagen.se
Fax:08-216558
Webbplats: www.jo.se

Hoppas att du får den hjälp du behöver där

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Europaparlamentets kontor / European Parliament office
Nybrogatan 11, 3 tr.
S-114 39  STOCKHOLM
Sweden
tel. +46-8-562 444 55
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CONSEIL DE L´EUROPÉ
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OF

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COUNCIL OF EUROPÉ
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28 april 2003

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Vår ref.: 13585/03
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Kansliet för Europadomstolen för de mänskliga rättigheterna har mottagit Ert 
brev av den 2 april 2003 med bilagor, av vilket framgår att Ni önskar inge 
ett klagomål till domstolen.
Ärenden har getts ovan nämnda referensnummer. Ni skall hänvisa till detta 
nummer i fortsatt korrespondens.

Bifogat finner Ni en kopia av den europeiska konventionen om de mänskliga 
rättigheterna och dess protokoll (innehållande bland annat artiklarna 34 och 
35 i konventionen där kraven för ingivande av ett klagomål samt villkoren 
för upptagande av detsamma framgår), reglerna 45 och 47 i domstolens 
arbetsordning (utvisande vissa formella krav som måste uppfyllas och vilken 
uppgifter ett individuellt klagomål till domstolen måste innehålla) samt en 
anvisning (vilken sammanfattar de kriterier som gäller för domstolens 
prövning). Vidare bifogas ett klagoformulär, med en förklarande handledning, 
som bör användas för ett formellt klagomål om – och endast om – Ni efter en 
noggrann genomgång av de ovan nämnda dokumenten finner att Ert ärende 
uppfyller alla tillämpliga kriterier.

I detta sammanhang bör Ni observera att dagen för klagomålets 
anhängiggörande normalt anses vara dagen för det första brevet Ni insände, 
om detta brev anger huvuddragen i klagomålet och om relevanta dokument, 
inklusive klagoformuläret, insändes till domstolen utan dröjsmål. Om så inte 
sker, riskerar Ni att klagomålet anses inkommet vid en senare tidpunkt än 
det första brev till domstolen. Detta påverkar i sin tur bedömningen 
huruvida klagomålet har anförts i rätt tid, dvs. inom den i konventionens 
artikel 35 angivna sexmånadersfristen. Denna frist räknas från den dagen då 
Ni eller Ert ombud fick kännedom om den nationella domstolens eller 
myndighetens slutliga beslut.

Om Ni anser at Ert ärende uppfyller de tillämpliga kriterierna skall Ni 
fylla i klagoformuläret tydligt, fullstädigt och noggrant då det kommer att 
ligga till grund för domstolens bedömning. Till formuläret skall kopior av 
alla relevanta dokument bifogas, särskilt domar och beslut från inhemska 
domstolar eller myndigheter som Ni önskar klaga över inför domstolen. Nämnda 
dokumentation bör vara sådan att den utvisar att alla inhemska rättsmedel är 
uttömda i enlighet med artikel 35 & 1 i konventionen. Ni bör inte sända 
originalhandlingar då dessa ej kommer att återsändas till Er. Underlåtenhet 
att inkomma med relevant information kommer att resultera i att domstolen 
anslår Ert klagomål utan ytterligare förvarning.

I vilket fall som helst, om Ni skulle besluta att inte fullfölja talan eller 
om Ni inte besvarar detta brev eller något annat brev från domstolen kansli 
inom ett år från dess expediering, kommer Ert klagomål att anses våra 
återkallat och akten i ärendet kommer att förstöras.

Kanslichefen


Bol. Konvention och protokoll
         Anvisningar
         Klagoformulär och handledning
         Fullmaktsformulär (för juridiskt ombud)



BESLUT

Datum

2003-04-29

Dnr

1453-2003

-JO-

Justitieombudsmannen
Anna-Karin Lundin

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Er anmälan mot kronofogdemyndigheten m.fl.

Ni har till JO översänt en kopia av ett brev ställt till den europeiska 
domstolen för de mänskliga rättigheterna. I brevet har Ni klagat på 
kronofogdemyndighetens handläggning av ett mål om utmätning och anfört bl.a. 
att Era skulder ökat trots att utmätning under lång tid ägt rum av Er lön 
och pension.

Det som framgår av den skift som Ni skickat till JO är för allmänt hållet 
för att jag skall kunna inleda en utredning eller vidta någon annan åtgärd.

Ni har möjlighet att lämna en ny anmälan med mer preciserade uppgifter.

Beslut

Jag kommer inte att utreda Er anmälan.

Anna-Karin Lundin

Ingrid Åhman



REGERINGSKANSLIET

2003-06-06

HP 49 Y

Utrikesdepartementet
enheten för folkrätt, mänskliga rättigheter
och traktaträtt (FMR)

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Utrikesdepartementet mottog den 4 juli 2003 ett e-postmeddelande utfärdat i 
Ditt namn som bl.a. Innehåller texten till en skivelse ställd till 
Europadomstolen för de mänskliga rättigheterna i Strasbourg. Av meddelandet 
framgår inte om det rör sig om en kopia av en skivelse som även ingivits 
till domstolen, eller om avsikten är att den av Utrikesdepartementet skall 
vidarebefordras dit.

Jag skriver därför till Dig för att klargöra att klagomål mot Sverige inför 
Europadomstolen för de mänskliga rättigheterna skall inges direkt till 
domstolen kansli och inte vidarebefordras dit om de inställt inges till 
Utrikesdepartementet eller någon annan del av regeringskansliet.
Utrikesdepartementet har därför inte vidtagit några åtgärder med anledning 
av Ditt e-postmeddelande utan förutsätter att Du själv på lämpligt sätt 
ombesörjt att skrivelsen nått avsedd adressat.

Jag bifogar informationsmaterial beträffande förfarandet enligt 
Europakonventionen


Med vänliga hälsningar


Mattias Falk
Ämnessakkunnig



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OF

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FJÄRDE AVDELNINGEN

24 juni 2003

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Mål nr 13585/03
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Jag har mottagit Era brev med bilagor vilka ankom till domstolen den 13 maj, 
16 maj samt 28 maj 2003.

Domstolen kommer att behandla klagomålet så snart som möjligt på grundval av 
den information och de handlingar Ni inkommit med. Förfarandet är i princip 
skriftigt och Ni kommer inte att behöva inställa Er personligen såvida inte 
domstolen särskilt kallar Er. Ni kommer att underrättas om domstolens 
beslut.

Ni skall meddela mig eventuell adressändring. I den mån nya omständigheter 
som rör klagomålet tillkommer, skall Ni upplysa domstolen därom inkomma med 
kopior av relevanta avgöranden av domstolar och myndigheter.


Med vänlig hälsning
På kanslichefens vägnar


Anders Månsson
Rättssekreterare


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SVERIGE

Tel: + 46 418 XX XX XX
Mobitel: + 46 70 XXXXXXX

25 juni 2003

Till Europeiska domstolen för de mänskliga rättigheterna i Strasbourg – 
Frankrike!?
Mina problem i detta nazistiska, fascistiska, kriminella och maffia svenska 
samhället fortsätter. Jag får fortfarande kravbrev från maffia inkasso att 
jag skulle betala skulder och jag är fortfarande skuldregistrerad hos maffia 
kronofogdemyndigheten.

Nu i sista månaderna jag har mycket problem med min fru och vi ska separera 
just på grund av antidemokratiska svenska samhället. Jag började söka egen 
lägenhet och flytta från min familj. Jag har sökt många företag som hyr ut 
lägenheter, vissa företag sa till mig att lägenheterna är upptagna men när 
jag kollade deras Internet hemsidor är lägenheterna fortfarande lediga, 
detta beror att jag är utlänning så jag har inte fått lägenhet. Vissa 
företag som hyr ut lägenheter har gjort kontroll en kreditupplysning i 
Stockholm i kreditupplysnings papper står det att jag fortfarande har 
skulder. Tack för de kvarstående skulderna och kronofogdemyndigheternas 
register de företagen som vill hyra ut lägenhet till mig kan inte godkänna 
eftersom jag har gamla skulder och kronofogderegister.  Detta är mycket stor 
och allvarlig kränkliga och diskrämnäring. Svenska myndigheterna som har 
kränkt och diskrämnäring och har det gjort grovt kriminell mot min ekonomi 
och min mycket dåliga hälsa jag kan inte låta de in fortsättning att 
diskriminera mina mänskliga rättligheter. Så jag kräver av er att kontakta 
med svenska myndigheterna och säga till de att omedelbart ta bort gamla 
skulder och kronofogdemyndigheternas skuld register.
Ni i ert brev av den 28 april skriver detta:  (I vilket fall som helst, om 
Ni skulle besluta att inte fullfölja talan eller om Ni inte besvarar detta 
brev eller något annat brev från domstolen kansli inom ett år från dess 
expediering, kommer Ert klagomål att anses våra återkallat och akten i 
ärendet kommer att förstöras). Ni vet att jag inte kan acceptera detta som 
ni har skrivit. Ni vet att svenska myndigheter har stulit hundratusentals 
skr av mig. Så jag kräver igen så fort som möjligt att ha mina stulna pengar 
åter betalas med skadestånd på en miljon skr och ränta. Om jag inte har fått 
mitt rättighetskrav inom trettio dagar, så kommer jag att skriva 
påminnelsebrev till er med ränta på ränta. Om ni inte accepterar detta eller 
inte straffar kriminella myndigheter så jag är tvungen att provocera att 
söka en annan väg att få mina stulna pengar tillbacka. När era Väst europa 
(Väst vård) företags chefer, direktörer och politiker fuskar med miljard 
tals kr, dollar, euro mm för att inte betala skatt, de fuskar att få 
miljontals ersättningar, pension och mm. Så vanliga folket har också rätt 
att kräva sina rättigheter från antidemokratiska väst vård samhälle och 
västvärldens biockratiska kriminella gubbar.

Jag är mycket ledsen besviken och arg på västvärldens antidemokratiskt, 
biockratiskt och kriminella samhälle.


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Letter from the CVRIA Court of First Instance of the European Communities


CVRIA  Europeiska gemenskapernas förstainstansrätt

LUXEMBOURG

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Vnatresna Makedonska Revolucionerna Organizacija - Makedonija Na Makedoncite 
(VMRO-MNM)
Pretsedatel: Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet

Web sajt na VMRO-MNM: http://www.vmro-mnm.com
Kontakt na E-mail: TREPET redacted@vmro-mnm.com

D E K L A R A C I J A

24 April 2002 g.

PO^ITUVANI BRA]A I SESTRI MAKEDONKI I MAKEDONCI!

OVA DEKLARACIJA JA PI[UVAM, VO IME NA MAKEDONSKIOT NAROD, VO IME NA 
MAKEDONSKATA redacted@AVA I VO IME NA VNATRE[NATA MAKEDONSKA REVOLUVIONERNA 
ORGANIZACIJA - MAKEDONIJA NA MAKEDONCITE (VMRO-MNM).

Ova moja Deklaracija, ja pi{uvam od se moe srce, so golema po~it, respekt i 
qubov kon na{ata mila i sakana tatkovina Makedonija i kon Makedonskiot 
narod. Jas }e se potrudam da ne go napa|am i kritikuvam mojot Makedonski 
narod. Jas ~eto pati go imam ostro kritikuvano i napa|ano mojot narod. Pa 
zatoa sega }e se zadr`am da ne ve napa|am.

(1). Po~ituvani moi Makedonci, nemojte da potpi{uvate Kapitulacijata za 
uni{tuvawe na Vardarskiot del na Makedonija. Nemojte da si go potpi{uvate 
uni{tuvaweto na li~niot identitet.
Ako Vardarskiot dela na Makedonija se podeli za golema "bugarija" i za 
golema "albanija", pa i za uni{tuvaweto na Makedonskata nacionalnost - 
identitetot na Makedonskiot narod. Toga{ bidete uvereni deka jas Vas }e ve 
obvinam i ostro }e ve osudam za uni{tuvaweto na Vardarskiot del na 
Makedonija i na Makedoniot identitet. Vie }e bidete naj golemite vinovnici, 
za sve {to e prodadeno i ukradeno od na{ata tatkovina. Vie ste tie {to treba 
da odlu~ite na kogo }e ja dadete vlasta i sobranieto, Vie ste silata koj {to 
mo`ete da go zapre~ite uni{tuvaweto na Vardarskiot del na makedonija i 
identitetot na Makedonskata nacionalnost.

(2). Po~ituvani moi Makedonci, nemojte da im podlegnuvate na golemite 
vetuvawa od zapdniot svet na nivnite nacisti~ki, fa{isti~ki, varvarski, 
teroristiki, biokratski i fanti~ki kopiliwa {to doa|at vo na{ata mila i 
sakana tatkovina Makedonija, za da ve ubeduvat so nekoi nivni "demokratski" 
kamofla`ni prikazni. Nemojte da im podlegnuvate na vetuvawata na ovie taka 
nare~enite "makedonski politi~ari". Sve e toa samo edna mafija{ka i 
banditska familija koj {to se samo bogatat na ra~un na Makedonskiot narod 
(za pop{irno }e napi{am vo naslednite to~ki).

(3). Kakva vlada, kakvo sobranie, kakva armia i kava policija nie 
Makedoncite imame, toa mnogo dobro ni e poznato i doka`ano so fakti, deka 
imame Anti makedonska "vlada"-Ventilator" , Anti makedonsko 
"sobranie"-Ventilator, anti makedonska "arm"-ventilator i anti makedonska 
"mvr"-ventilator.

Da ne se vra}am povi{e od 6{est veka unazad. Sme bile 550 godini pod tursko 
ropstvo. I od 1912-13 godina Egejskiot del na Makedonija koj {to seu{te e 
pod ropstvo na Atinskite nacisti i fa{isti, Pirinskiot del na Makedonija se 
u{te e pod ropstvo na Azijatskoto tatarsko, vrhovisti~ko, {evonisti~ko, 
nacisti~ko i fa{isti~ko pleme (po novo nare~eni "bugari"). Del od teritorija 
na Makedonskata dr`ava e seu{te pod okupacija od srpskite ~etnici, nacisti i 
fa{isti.
Od 1912-13 godina, celata teritorija koja se imenuva "albanija", so dokazi i 
fakti sme daka`ale deka ova teritorija e Makedonska od na{ite golemi 
Makedonski kralovi i carovi (stara preko 10set ilijadi, drevna Makedonska 
zemja). Teritorija od Drevna Makedonija i od Drevnite Makedonci. Taa 
teritorija koj {to se imenuva kako "albanska dr`ava", se znae i se ima 
dokazi i so fakti deka za prv pat vo svetskata istorija na Makedonskiot 
balkan se priznala "drzava albanija" vo 1913 g. A za toa {iptarsko - 
balisti~ko, nacisti~ko, fa{isti~ko, teroristi~ko i mafija{ko banditsko 
pleme, se znae od kade se dojdeni na Makedonskata zemja (od azijatskiot 
kafkaz, bra}ata na ~e~encite).

[to sakav so toa da vi ka`am, Makedonskiot narod ima stradano i pateno 6est 
veka, i seu{te pati i strada, vo ovaj 21prvi veka. Zatoa {to Makedonskiot 
narod ima dosta neprijateli, koj {to sakat da go uni{tat Makedonskiot narod, 
po{to e naj bogat so istorija, kultura, tradicii i. dr. Ako razmislime po 
dlaboko, }e zaklu~ime deka Makedonskiot narod vo Vardarskiot del na 
Makedonija. od 1991 g. Od kako postana "nezavisna i suverena dr`ava", pod 
ovo prokleto ime FYROM , Makedonskiot narod strada i pati so yversko etni~ko 
~istewe, so yverski genocid, kako {to pati i strada Makedonskiot narod vo 
drugite okupirani Makedonski teritorii. Vo Vardarskiot del na Makedonija, 
Makedonskiot narod strada i pati, od sopstvenite makedonski izrodi 
predavni~ki yverovi - yverski (nastavuvam vo naslednite to~ki).

(4). Se veli deka Makedonskiot narod vo Vardarskiot del na Makedonija ima 
"vlada", ima "armija" i ima "policija" ima i ima "pretsedatel" ima 
"ministeri", ima "generali", "oficiri", na~alnici", ispektori", "komandiri" 
i.t.n.
Isto taka se veli deka Makedonskiot narod ima i makedonsko "sobranie" i 
"pratenici" ( da ima anti makedonsko "sobranie-ventilator" i komunisti~ki, 
teroristi~ki, nacisti~ki, fa{isti~ki i mafija{ki banditski "pratenici").
Kakva e taa Makedonska vlada, kakov e toj makedonski pretsedatel i kakvi se 
tie Makedonski ministeri. Kakovo e toa makedonso sobranie i kakvi se tie 
pratenici. Eve kakvi se, anti makedonci, komunisti, strani agenti i {pijuni, 
predavni~ki yverovi - yverski, koj {to se platenici od nadvor za uni{tuvawe 
na stara drevna Makedonjia i na stro drevnite Makedonci.
Ako po~neme da ja pi{uvame, vistinata za ovie vo anti makedonskata 
"vlada"-Ventilator i vo anti makedonskoto "sobranie"-ventilator, tokmu za 
ovie slepci, ko{tapleri yverovi - yverski, teroristi i mafija{ki banditi. ]e 
zaklu~ime deka se lu|e bez krv i veni, nemat nikavo ~ustvo niti oset i `al 
za toj nastradan i napaten Makedonski narod i seu{te strada i pati. Tie 
krvnici, vragovi, vampiri, yverovi - yverski, teroristi i mafija{ki banditi, 
ni go smenia istoriskoto i ustavnoto ime MAKEDONIJA i ni go nametnaa ovo 
prokleto ime Porane{na Jugolelavenska Republika Makedonija - FYROM , go 
prodadoa istoriskoto staro simboli~no Makedonsko nacionalni dr`avno zname, 
simbolot zvezdata so {esnaesetzra~noto sonce od MAKEDONSKIOT KUTLE[ i ni go 
namestija ovo prokleto "zname" ventilator.
Ovo velepredavstvo od strana na izrodite Makedonski predavni~ki yverovi - 
yverski, nema da im se oprosti.
Jas i Organizcijata VMRO-MNM, ne |i prifa}ame i ne gi po~ituvame kako 
legalni Makedonski politi~ari. Za mene i za Organizacijata VMRO-MNM ne e 
prifateno izmenuvawe i prekrstuvawe na stara drevna Makedonska dr`ava i 
izmena na identitetot na stariot drevni Makedonski narod.
Isto taka ne go prifa}ame ventilatorot, nego samo pravoto istorisko 
Makedonsko nacionalno dr`vno zname YVEZDATA - SONCETO OD MAKEDONSKIOT 
KUTLE[.

(5). Znaeme site nie Makedonci, deka tie yverovi - yverski, taka nare~enite 
Makeoski "politi~ari", go doteraa Makedonskiot narod na golemata 
katastrofalna socijalna i ekonomska kriza, go osiroma{tija Makedonskiot 
narod, za da strada i trpi za korka leb (edno stavno go doteraa Makedonskiot 
narod do prosja~ki stap.
Tie taka nare~¨enite Makedonski "pliti~ari", so golema sorabotka so 
zapadnite zemji so nivni biokratski, fanatici i mafija{ki banditi, go 
pqa~kat bogatstvoto na Makedonskata dr`ava i na Makedonskiot narod. Gi 
prisvoija site firmi i pretprijatija, celata industrija na Makedonskiot 
narod. Go pqja~kat Makedonskoto zlato, srebro, mermer, na razno vrsni rudi, 
bogatata Makedonska {uma, bogatata Makedonska arheologija ja kopat 
Makedonskata zemja so stari anti~ki arheolo{ki predmeti i od Makedonskata 
dr`ava |i iznesuvat i |i nosoat za da im gi krasat, po nivnite zapadni 
biokratski muzei, galerii, kulturni centri i za nivnite luksuzni palati.

Ne nemo`e taj golem kriminal da se podnesuva i da se pre}utuva od nas 
Makedoncite.
Od Organizacijata VMRO-MNM, e strogo osuden, toj kriminal od strana na 
Makedonskite mafija{ki banditi i izrodite Makedonski predavni~ki yverovi - 
yverski i od zapadnite nacisti, fa{isti, varvari, teroristi, fanatici i 
biokratski mafija{ki banditi.

(6). Vo zapadniot del na Makedonija vo 2001 i 2002 g. na Makedonskiot narod 
mu se nametna te{ka valkana vojna so {iptarskite balisti~ki teroristi, 
fa{isti i mafija{ki banditi. Vo taa valkana vojna u~esnici se i zapdnite 
nacisti, fa{isti, varvari i teroristi, so nivnate organizacii NATO , EU, 
OON, OBSE i taka nare~enite balisti~ki organizacii "u~k", "ona" pa i nekoja 
si "ana". Se razbira i u~esnici se i Makedonskite predavni~ki yverovi - 
yverski, kako i sofiskata teroristi~ka, vrhovisti~ka, {evonisti~ka, 
nacisti~ka, fa{isti~ka i mafijo banditska organizacija "DPMNE" i srpskata 
~etni~ka, teroristi~ka, nacisti~ka, fa{isti~ka i mafijo banditska 
organizacija "SDSM".

Na Makedonskiot narod mu se izvr{uva{e yverski genocid, yversko etni~ko 
~istenwe, yverski masakri, kako na Makedonski borci taka i na Makedonski 
civilen narod, so deca, `eni i starci, se silovaa Makedonski `eni i mladi 
devoj~ina, se kidnapiraa stotici Makedonski civili, deca, `eni i starci i se 
yverski masakrirani i zakopani vo nepoznati mesta vo masivni grobnici, koj 
{to den denes ni{to ne se znae za tie na{i nastradani i masakrirani bra}a i 
sestri.
Se palat i pqa~kat ogni{tata na Makedonskiot narod, Makedonskiot narod vo 
zapadniot del od zemjata ne smee da si go zbori svojot Makedonski jazik, ako 
{iptarski balisti sretnat i slu{nat deka Makedonec zbori Makedonski jazik, 
}e bide yverski tortiran, pa duri i do smrt, kako {te ve}e ima{e nekolku 
Makedonci umreno od yverskite torturi od strana na {iptarskite balisti~ki 
teroristi i fa{isti.
[iptarskite teroristi i fa{isti, zaedno so natovskite okupatorski ~izmari 
zapalija i so eksplozivi krena vo vazduh 10setina Makedonski crkvi, 
istoriski manastiri (Hramovi).

Kobaja|i vojnata prestana prikrajot na letoto lanska godina, ne vojnata 
seu{te si trae, {iptarskite teroristi i fa{isti, natovskite okupatorski 
~izmari i Makedonskite predavni~ki yverovi - yverski, si prodol`ija cela 
esen, cela zima i proleta 2002 g. So teroristi~ki atentati (podmetnuvawe na 
detonacii) , eksplozivni atentati po Makedonski firmi, objekti, ku}i, 
patni~ki vozila, avtobusi. Maltretirawe na Makedonski civili, yverski 
torturi nad Makedonski civili, razno vrsni provokacii nad Makedonskiot 
narod, a i so nekolku ubistva.

Cela esen, zima i prolet, se prekr{uva{e redot i mirot na Makedonskiot 
narod, so sekoj dnevni i no}ni pukawa i praznewe na rafali od razno vrsno 
pe{adisko oru`e. [to e toa, toa zna~i, mu se zagrozuva mirot na Makedonskiot 
narod, se provocira Makedonskiot narod, se zastra{uva Makedonskiot narod, da 
ne mo`e mirno da spie, da ne mo`e oko da sklopi, da ne mo`e slobodno da se 
dvi`i, od ovie {iptarski balisti~ki teroristi i fa{isti. Toa e esenskata, 
zimskata i proletnata poraka od tie prokleti {iptarski ka~aci, da im ka`at 
na Makedoncite deka nie sme tuka i ne spieme.

Dali nie Makedoncite mo`eme i dali }e mo`ime vo idnina da `iveeme so ovo 
{iptarsko - balisti~ko gadno pleme od azijatskiot kafkaz i kakov so`ivot nie 
}e imame so ovo teroristi~ko, fa{isti~ko, kriminalno mafija{ko banditsko 
pleme.
Ne po~ituvani moi bra}a i sestri Makedonki i Makedonci, nie Makedoncite ne 
mo`eme i ne smeeme da si dozvolime takov sram i poraz, nie ne smeeme da si 
dozvolime da ne ucenuvat tie {iptarski balisti (ka~aci).
Nie ne smeeme da gi pregazuvame koskite na na{ite Makedoski HEROI, na na{ite 
kidnapirani stotici Makedonski civili so `eni, starci i deca, koj {to 
yverski beaa masakrirani ubieni od ovo balsti~ko azijatsko kafkazko pleme. 
Nie Makedoncite ne smeeme da si dozvolime da ovo balisti~ko pleme ni go 
zagorozuva Makedonskiot dom, ne smeeme da im oprostime za setiot ogromen 
yverski zlo~in {to go imat storeno nad Makedonskiot narod.
So ovo necivilizirano, teroristi~ko, nacisati~ko, fa{isti~ko, varvarsko i 
mafija{ko banditsko gadno pleme nikoj ne mo`e da `ivee a i da ima zaedni~ki 
so`ivot, a kamo li nie Makedoncite.
[to e naj dobro da storime nie Makedoncite so {iptarskite balisti, toa 
mafija{ko i banditsko pleme nadvor od Makedonskata dr`ava, e toa e naj 
dobriot predlog od mene. A i za Makedonskot narod }e bide spas i sloboda i 
da si `ivee eden normalen `ivot bez {iptarski balisti~ki teroristi, nacisti, 
fa{isti i mafija{ki banditi.

(7). Po~ituvani moi Makedonci: Vie velite deka imate "vlada" i "sobranie" 
kakva e taa "vlada"-ventilator, kakov e toja "pretsedatel" Boris 
Trajkovski-Vladika, kakvi se tie "ministeri".
Kakvo e toa "makedonsko sobranie", "sobranie"-ventilator, so mafija{ki, 
banditski i teroristi~ki "pratenici. Koga go uni{tija Makedonskiot ustav, 
donesoa zakon i potpi{aa nekoj si "ramkovni miroven dogovor" so {iptarskite 
balisti~ki teroristi i fa{isti, vo prisustvo na zapadni nacisti, fa{isti, 
varvari, pedofili, provokatori, agresori i fanatici. So toj ramkovni dogovor 
vo Makedoskot grad OHRID, se potpi{a uni{tuvaweto na Makedonskata dr`ava i 
uni{tuvanweto na Makedonskiot identitet. Na site nas ni e poznato deka ne se 
raboti za nekoj si "miroven dogovor", nego se raboti za uni{tuvawe na 
Makedonskata dr`ava i na Makedonskiot narod. [to pridonese toj "miroven 
ramkovni dogovor", pridonese i predizvika zagrozuvawe na Makedonskiot narod, 
organizirawe na golemo yversko etni~ko ~istewe i yverski genocidi so yverski 
ubistva, yverski torturi i yverski masakri nad Makedonskiot narod. Pridonese 
i donese da Makedonskiot narod bide begalec vo svojata sopstvena dr`ava, da 
`ivee pod zakani, pritisoci, fizi~ko maltretirawe (so yverski torturi), 
kidnapirawe na 100tici Makedonski civilen narod, so `eni, deca i starci (i 
site se yverski tortirani a potoa yverski masakrirani), banditsko pqa~kawe i 
palewe na domovite ogni{tata na Makedonskiot narod niz celiot zapdani dela 
na Makedonija i Kumanovskiot region.
Toa li e "vlada", toa li e "sobranie" toa li se "minsteri", toa li se 
pratenici i takv li "pretsedatel" ima Makedonskiot narod i Makedonskata 
dr`ava.
Kolku pati na{ite Makedonci, roditelite odnosno ostanatite ~lenovi vo 
semejstvata na kidnapiranite ~eda na Majka Makedonija bea da se molat na tie 
vo ova prokleta anti makedonska "vlada"-Ventilator i kaj zapadnite nacisti, 
fa{isti, biokrati, agresori, fanatici i mafija{ki banditi, za da im se 
pronajdat nivnite i Makedonskite ~eda, kade se i {to e so niv. Od toa ni{to 
samo vetuvawe so kamofla`ni zborovi i kni`iwa.

Da ne prodol`uvam povi{e da objasnuvam za uni{tuva~kata "ramkovna mirovna 
spogodba".
Takova spogodba za Organizacijata VMRO-MNM, ne e prifatliva i nema ni da ja 
prifatime, toj dokument e nelegalen i nie ne go po~ituvame, nego nie go 
smatrame za uni{tuva~ki dokument na Makedonskata dr`ava i na Makedonskiot 
narod. Takov dokument za Organizacijata VMRO-MNM, ne egzistira.

(8). Po~ituvani Makedonci, prodol`uvam za anti makedonskata 
"vlada"-Ventilator: [to mo`e i {to vi{e mo`e da o~ekuva Makedonskiot narod 
od ova anti makedonska "vlada"-Ventilator. Od ovie prokleti strani agenti i 
{pijuni, od ovie izrodi Makedonski predavni~ki yverovi - yverski, od ovie 
mafija{ki banditi, nema vi{e {to da se o~ekuva. Tie ja uni{tuvat 
Makedonskata dr`ava i Makedonskiot narod. Tie se yverovi - yverski, koj {to 
go yverski tortirat Makedonskiot narod, tie se koj {to yverski go ubivat i 
masakrirat Makedonskiot narod, tie se koj {to mu izvr{uvat yversko etni~ko 
~istewe i yverski genocidi nad Makedonskiot narod. Tie se yverovi - yverski 
{to se pleteni agenti i {pijuni koj {to |i pomiluvaa i im dadoa amnestija na 
250-300 {iptraski teroristi, fa{isti i mafija{ki banditi, |i pu{tija od 
zatvorite, koj {to bea uapseni od Makedonci, za nivnite yverski zlostorstva 
nad Makedonskiot narod, za yverski torturi, za yverski ubistva i yverski 
masakri nad Makedonskiot narod. Taa anti makedonska predavni~ka i mafija{ka 
banditska "vlada"-Ventilator, |i pu{ti na sloboda {iptarskite balisti~ki 
teroristi i fa{isti, da im se pridru`at na nivnite ostanati teroristi, 
fa{isti i mafija{ki banditi, za da se spremat za novi napadi, za novi 
otvarawa na frontovi i ofanzivi, |i pu{tija povtprno da pravat yverki 
zlostorstva nad Makedonskiot narod. Zo{to moj Makedonski narode ~ekate, 
zo{to se u{te |i po~ituvate ovie strani agenti i {pijuni, zo{to se u{te |i 
po~ituvate ovie Makedonski predavni~ki yverovi - yverski.
Jas reagirav ostro od koga |i oslobodija {iptarskite balisti~ki teroristi, 
fa{isti i mafija{ki banditi. Mo`ete da ja pro~itate mojata reakcija na ovaj 
link, za amnestija na {iptarskite balisti~ki teroristi:
http://www.vmro-mnm.com/Amnestija_za_siptarskite_balisticki_teroristi_i_fasisti.htm

Na ovaj link }e sretnete i objasnuvawe za anti makedonskoto 
"sobranie"-Ventilator i mafija{kiot banditski i teroristi~ki organiziran 
sostav od "pratenici".
Amnestijata na {iptarskite balisti~ki teroristi, fa{isti i mafoja{ki 
banditi, be{e dobro dojdeno i aplaudirano od zapadnite nacisti, fa{isti, 
varvari, agresori, provokatori, teroristi, pedofili, homoseksualci, biokrati 
i fanatici. Se razbira od site nivni organizacii, institucii i asisuacii za 
"~ovekovi prava", kako i od nivnite provokatorski i falcifikatorski 
ma{ineriski mediumi.
Dali e prifaten toj zakon za pomiluvawe so amnestija na {iptarskite 
balisti~ki teroristi, fa{isti i mafija{ki banditi, od strana na Vnatre{nata 
Makedonska Revolucionerna Organizacija - Makedonija Na Makedoncite 
(VMRO-MNM). Ne moi bra}a i sestri Makedonki i Makedonci. Nie ne go prifa}ame 
toj zakon od anti makedonskata, predavni~kata i mafija{kata banditskata 
"vlada"-Ventilator i od anti makedonskoto, mafija{ko banditsko i 
teroristi~ko "sobranie"-Ventilator.
Organizacijata VMRO-MNM, |i osuduva {iptarskite balisti~ki teroristi, 
fa{isti i mafija{ki banditi, so naj strogata kazana, smrt za {iptraskite 
balisti. I smrt za izrodite Makedonski predavni~ki yverovi - yverski. Isto 
taka i smrt za zapadnite "politi~ari", agresori, provokatori, varvari, 
teroristi, nacisti, fa{isti, banditsko mafija{ki biokrati i fanatici.

(9). Dali jas ne gi razbiram ili jas sum vo pogre{no mislewe kon 
nacisti~kiot, fa{isti~kiot, varvarskiot, teroristi~kiot, agresorskiot, 
provokatorskiot i okupatorskiot zapaden svet.

Ne Moi po~ituvani bra}a i sestri Makedonki i Makedonci: Ne sum vo gre{ka i 
veruvam vo miote misli i dolgogodi{ni rabotni iskustva, deka zapadniot svet 
e nacisti~ki i fa{isti~ki. Tie se {to se me{at i go pikat nosot i ja 
Uni{tuvat na{ata mila i sakana tatkovina Makedonija i Makedonskiot narod.

Ete vidovme, gledame, ~uvme i slu{ame kako Amerikanskite nacisti, fa{isti, 
varvari, provokatori, agresori, teroristi i okupatori zaedno so drugite 
zapadni zemji, kako se borat za da ja uni{tat islamskata teroristi~ka 
organizacija Al-kaida na Bin Ladin.
Ja bombardira i seu{te se bombardira i se uni{tuva cel Avganistan, izubija 
iljadnici civili.
Dali toa ne izgleda igra na otvoren poker, odnosno igra so otvoreni karti. 
Zna~i tie imat pravo i mo`at da se borat i da gi uni{tuvat islamskite 
teroristi. A nie Makedoncite ne smeeme i nemame pravo da si ja branime 
na{ata Majka Makedonija i na{iot Makedonski narod od {iptarskite balisti~ki 
teroristi, fa{isti, agresori, provokatori i mafija{ki banditi.
Ne ne se raboti deka nie nemame pravo za da se borime protiv na{ite 
nepriateli, agresori, provokatori i okupatori. Nego se raboti {to nie 
Makedoncite vo eden vid ispadnavme kukavici, koj {to ne sme obedineti i ne 
sme solidarni. Tokmu vo toa e problemot, tie na{i neprijateli go koristat i 
go sloupotrebuvat na{eto ne obedinuvawe i na{ata nesolidarnost.

Zapadniot svet si |i brka svoite raboti, tie so nivnoto solidarstvo, si 
pravat kako {to nim im odgovara. Tie predizvikuvat agresivnost i tie 
predizvikuvat vojni {irom celiot svet, se razbira nadvor od nivnite granci. 
Tie sakat da go okupirat celiot svet. I toa }e go storat, eve gledame kako 
oni okupirat dr`ava po dr`ava.

Tie zapadnaci nosat dupli maski, tie se {to |i podr`avat, {to |i naoru`uvat 
i im davat se {to im e potrebno so materijalni sretstva na {iptarskite 
balisti~ki teroristi, fa{isti, agresori, provokatori i mafija{ki banditi.
Tie se {to go izvr{uvat yverskoto etni~ko ~itewe i yverskiot genocid nad 
Makedonskiot narod. Tie se {to zaedno so {iptarskite balisti i na{ite 
Makedonski izrodi predavni~ki yverovi - yverski, {to izv{uvat yverski 
torturi, yverski ubistva i yverski masakri nad Makedonskiot narod, tie se 
{to |i silovat Makedonskite devojki i `ni, tie se {to |i pqa~kat i palat 
domovite - ogni{tata na Makedonskiot narod. Tie se {to ja ukradoa i 
falcifikovaa Makedonskata istorija, kultura i tradicija. Tie se {to go 
pqa~kat ogromnoto bogatstvo na Makedonskata dr`ava i na Makedonskiot narod.

(10). Po~ituvani Makedonci: Dali nie imame na{a Makedonska armija i 
policija.
Ne moi Makedonci, nie nemame Makedonska armija i policija. Nie imame samo 
imiwa "arm" i "mvr". Tie se anti makedonski "arm"-Ventilator i 
"mvr"-Ventilator.
Vo tie "arm"-Ventilator i "mvr"-ventilator, se izme{ani teroristi, fa{isti. 
nacisti i mafija{ki banditski ubici i yverovi, od nadvore{ni organizacii, 
institucii i asisuacii.
Jas ne velam deka nema i dobri, verni i ~esni Makedonski borci vo tie 
redovi, ima i toa mnogo |i ima, samo {to na{ite Makedonski borci se 
prevareni i iznevereni od ovie prokleti strani agenti, {pijuni, biokrati, 
pedofili, homoseksualci i fanatici. Se razbira so mnogo dobra i povrzana 
sorabotka so na{ite makedonski izrodi pradavni~ki yverovi - yverski.

Nigde na svetot ne postoi da imat strani generali, oficeri, na~alnici, 
ispektori i komandiri, vo nivnite armii i policii. Toa e samo kaj nas vo 
Makedonija. Po{to vo na{ata Majka Makedonija, ne odlu~uva Makedonskiot 
narod, nema Makedonski pretsedatel, nema Makedonski ministri, tuku ima samo 
nadvore{ni agenti i {pijuni.

Cela lanska godina vidovme, znaeme site Makedonci, kako se povlekuvat 
Makedonskite policajski punktovi niz celiot zapadni del na Makedonija, 
kriznite podra~ja na Kumanovsko, pa duri i od okolinata na vtoriot 
Makedonski grad Skopje.
Toa se veli, mi`i slepko da ne ti gi dovadam slepite o~i, kobaa|i, 
policajskite punktovi se povlekuvat po barawe na {iptaraskoto balisti~ko 
gadno pleme i po baraweto na zapadnite pedofili, homoseksualci, biokrati i 
fanatici (se razbira povlekuvajte se Makedonci da nie "albancite" da si se 
dvi`ime slobodni i da si se organizirame kako da ve doni{time).
Toa se veli deka e "demokratski", Makedoncite policajski punktovi da se 
povlekuvat i {iptraskite balisti~ki teroristi, fa{isti i mafija{ki banditi, 
da si umivat yverski, da masakrirat yverski Makedonski narod, da si 
isvr{uvat banditski pqa~ki i da palat i ru{at Makedonski objkti, domovi - 
ogni{ta, da si palat i ru{at Makedonski crkvi, manastiri i hramovi.

Vo ova "mvr"-Ventilator ima kobaa|i i "makedonski lavovi", "Makedonski 
volci", "makedonski {korpioni", "makedonski tigri" i {to ti ne izmisleni 
imiwa na grupacii. Toa e ednostavno zama~kuvawe o~ite na Makedonskiot narod, 
eve imame Makedonska policija, za da ja "budno branat ova zemja", za da go 
"za{tituvat makedonskiot narod".
Ne moj narode Makedonski, nie nemame Makedonska policija, a za armijata da 
ne zborime. Nie imame teroristi~ka, mafija{ka banditska policija i armija, 
koj {to se pod kontrola na zapadnite nacisti, fa{isti, varvari, teroristi, 
banditski biokrati i fanatici, pod kontrola na anti makedonskite mafija{ki i 
banditski yverovi - yverski. Kava e taa policija, koj {to e me{ana so 
{iptrski balisti, turci i teroristi na islamskata teroristi~ka organizacija 
Al-kaida. Koj patrolirat, se znae me{anata policija, eden makedonec a 
drugite se {ipci-balisti, turci, arapi, azijatski mongolsi tatari i zapadni 
agenti i {pijuni.

Gledame kako ova anti makedonska "policija" |i napa|a fizi~ki i |i 
pendrekuva Makedoncite koj {to se izlegle na demonstracii i protesti, protiv 
anti makedonskata "vlada"-Ventilator, poradi nivnata diskriminacija i la`ni 
vetuvawa. Zagrozeniot Makedonski narod si go bara svoeto pravo, si |i bara 
svoite neisplateni nekolku mese~ni plati i stopirawe za napu{tawe od 
rabotnite mesta, so prisiluvawe vo ste~aj i.t.n.
A ovie mafija{ki banditi im |i pu{tat taka nare~enite "makedonski lavovi" za 
da go maltretirat fizi~ki (so pendrekuvawe) Makedonskiot narod, {to si go 
barat ono {to im sleduva nim, na nivnite semestva, a toa oni ne go dobivat 
nego go dobivat pendrekot po glava i po grb i kaj {to }e im se zgodi.

Eve {to im donese na Makedonskiot narod "makedonecot" Risto Popovski od 
Germanija. Risto Popovski koj {to izigrava{e nekolku godini kako "Makedonski 
patriotit", se sobraa nekolku du{i, se razbira sorabotnici na sofiskata 
vrhovisti~ka, {evonisti~ka, fa{isti~ka , teroristi~ka i mafija banditska 
organizacija "dpmne", so sorabotnici od "smk" na anti makedonecot Todor 
Petrov i so saorabotnici na "maak" na anti makedonecot Stra{o Angelovski.
Golem broj broj na Makedonski patrioti i borci bea sobrani i za~leneti vo 
"organizacijata makedonski lavovi" i bea naivno izneverni od taaa kamofla`na 
grupa na Risto Popovski i predadeni vo racete i pod kontrola nad ova anti 
makedonska teroristi~ka i mafijo banditska "vlada"-Ventilator.

Ete go anti makedonecot i maskiraniot "makedonski patriot" Risto Popovski, 
so novi kamofla`ni izjavi i povici kon Makedonskiot narod, so novi 
kamofla`ni idei, so novo ime na anti makedonska i kamofla`na organizacija 
"makedonsko narodno dvi`ewe".
Se razbira so golema podr`ka i objavuvawe kamofla`nite izjavi na Risto 
Popovski "mnd" vo anti makedonsko sonce, kako {to se podr`va{e so objavuvawe 
na negovi izjavi, analizi i povici za "makedonskite lavovi".

(11). Ne moi Makedonci, vaka ne mo`eme da se borime za svoite prava, nego 
samo da se obedinime i da bideme solidarni. Koga }e bideme obedineti i 
solidarni toga{ sme nie mnogo pojaki i posilni.

Jas kako Pretsedatel na Organizacijata VMRO-MNM. Imam mnogo va`ni i seriozni 
zada~i, taka re~eno, poraka do celiot Makedonski narod. Mojata poraka e do 
site Makedonci koj {to se sobirat i organizirat za demonstracii i protesti 
ispred anti makedonskoto predavni~koto i mafja{koto banditsko 
"sobranie-Ventilator.

Mojata poraka e so slednoto: Site Makedonci {to iska~at da demonstrirat i 
protestirat, za nivnite prava, da ne si dozvolat da bidat maltretirani, da 
ne bidat fizi~ki tepeni (pendrekovani) od yverovi-yverski, anti makedonski 
krvnici, vragovi, mafija{ki banditi. Nego vie }e morate da se branite od tie 
du{mani, vie }e si se spremate pred da pojdete na mestoto kade {to }e 
protestirate , }e si ponesete so vas pi{toli, no`evi ili drugi ladni i te{ki 
predmeti. Dojdeli vragot da te tepa so boksovi ili so pendrek, ti ili site 
vie }e im se svrtete i }e im uzvratite so is na~in, makar i so upotrebuvawe 
na pi{tol ili no` ( stegni mu go metakot vo ~elo, vo srce i vo stomah, 
zabodi mu go no`ot vo srce i vo stomah).

Ne samo do anti makedonskite policajski vragovi, du{mani, krvnici i 
yverovi-yverski, tuku i do ovie anti makedonski mafija{ki banditi i 
predavnici, taka nare~enite "makedonski miniseri" i nivnite zagari.
^esto pati Makedonskiot narod e protestiral ispred ovao anti makedonsko 
predavni~ko i mafija{ko banditsko "sobranie"-Ventilator. Se slu~uvalo i 
jaki, silni, sposobni, re{itelni Makedonski patrioti da frlat kamewa na 
nivnite prozori.
Za vo idnite protesti, moe mislewe i moj predlog e da ne se frlat kamewa po 
nivnite prozori, nego da se frlat ra~ni BOMBI, ili fla{i so BENZIN, da 
izgorat kako glufci. Tie anti makedonci predavni~ki yverovi-yverski i 
mafija{ki banditi, ne zaslu`uvat da `iveat vo na{ata Majka Makedonija niti 
pak kaj Makedonskiot narod.

I u{te eden va`en predlog: Site vie Makedonci {to iska~ate na demonstracii i 
protestirate. Nemojte da go nosite so vas anti makedonskot "zname" 
VENTILATOROT, nego ponesete go so vas pravoto, vistinskoto Makedonsko 
nacionalno i dr`avno zname, SIMBOLOT OD MAKEDONSKIOT ISTORISKI GRAD KUTLE[ 
([ESNAESETZRA^NOTO SONCE). Toa e pravoto i vistinskoto Makedonsko zname i 
nego da go ponesete so vas i nego da go krevate i toa gordo da go krevate. 
Ako zabele`ete nekoj anti makedonec, {to go kreva ventilatorot, fatete go 
toj anti makedonec i iskr{ete go od }otek, iskr{ete mu |i rebrata za druk 
pat da ne se povrati i da nosi i da kreva anti makedonsko zname ( isto taka 
mo`ete i imate pravo da mu go zemete ventilatorot i da go zapalete na lice 
mesto, pa makar da |i ima i desetina ili stotina ventilatori).

Ako ovo go storite, ja imate celosna moja podr{ka, jas }e odgovaram za 
va{ite pravi i realni Makedonski dela. Neka mene me sudat anti makedoncite, 
predavnicite yverovi-yverski i mafija{kite banditi i na{ite nadvore{ni i 
vnatre{ni neprijateli.

(12). Po~ituvani moi Makedonci: Dali nie imame na{i Makedonski mediumi i 
novinari, vo Majka Makedonija i nadvor od Majka Makedonija.
Ne nie imame samo kako imenovani mediumi i novinrai, deka se Makedonski i 
Makedonci. Vo seriosnot i vistinski se anti makedonski mediumi i novinari. 
Tie mediumi so nivnite novinari, se anti makedonci, strani platenici (strani 
agenti i {pijuni), tie novinari se za uni{tuvawe na Makedonskata dr`ava i na 
Makedonskiot narod. Tie novinari treba da se kaznuvat so naj strogata kazna 
a taa kazna e smrt. Smrt na stranite agenti i {pijuni, smrt na ovie prokleti 
platenici od zapadniot svet i od na{ite soseni okupatori, pa i od isrodite 
Makedonski predavni~ki yvwerovi-yverski i mafija{ki banditi. Tie taka 
nare~enite Makedonski novinari se mnogo opasni i {tetni za nas Makedoncite. 
Tie se koj {to sorabotuvat so anti makedonskata predavni~ka i mafija{ka 
banditska "vlada"-Ventilator, anti makedonskoto predavni~ko mafija{ko 
banditsko "sobranie"-Ventilator i so site anti makedonski oboeni "politi~ki 
partii i organizacii".

Moj predlog i poraka do Makedonskiot nard, a posebno do Makedonskite komiti 
i patrioti. Da si po~nat so organizirawe na mali grupi i da po~nat so 
ubivawe so likvidirawe na ovie prokleti anti makedonski novinari, 
nadvorie{ni platenici, agentite i {pijunite na pogore navedenite. Tie 
"novinari", nemo`at da postojat, nego morame pot itno da |i likvidirame.

Bra}a i sestri Makedonki i Makedonci, ja imate vo celosna mojata podr{ka.
Ne samo za anti makedonskite "novinari" od Makedonski rod, tuki i za ovie 
zapadnive nacisti~ki, fa{isti~ki, agresorski i provokatorski novinari, {to 
se vo na{ata Majka Makedonija, pa i nadvor od nea. Tie imat storeno ogromni 
{teti na Makedonskiot narod i ogromni negativni i falcifikatorski propagandi 
protiv Makedonskiot narod. Tie zapadni mediumi ja imata totalno 
falcifikovana Makedonskata istorija, kultura i tradicja, vo prilog na na{ite 
sosedni ukupatori (odnosno na novo dojdenite karpetinski plemiwa na 
Makedonskata zemja (na Makedonskite teritorii).

Taka da im pora~uvam na Makedonskite komiti i patrioti, da se organizirat vo 
mali grupi i da trgnat po potraga po site tie anti makedonski, 
falcifikatorski, provokatorski i agresorski "novinari" i da |i likvidirat 
eden po eden.

Ja imate vo celosno mojata podr{ka i prifatete |i za seriozni moite predlozi 
i poraki. Protiv takvite i uni{tuva~kite kopiliwa, protiv du{manite, 
krvnicite, vragovite, yverovite, nacistite, fa{istite, varvarite, 
teroristite, mafija{kite banditi i teroristi od zapadniot svet i na{ite 
Makedonski predavnici yverovi-yverski. Neka mene me obinat za borbata protiv 
na{ite neprijatoeli. Pa makar da me odnesat i vo nivniot nacisti~ki, 
fas{isti~ki, varvarski, teroristi~ki i mafija{ki banditski sud vo Haag. Neka 
mene me usudat i usudat za odbrana i za vistinata na Makedonskata dr`ava i 
na Makedonskiot narod.

(13). Po~ituvani moi Makedonci: Se prebi`uva esenta za Makedonskite 
predavni~ki i mafija{ko banditski "parlamentarni izbori". Se zapo~na so 
"izbornata kampawa" od anti makedonskite, predavni~kite, mafijo banditskite 
i yverskite taka nare~eni "pliti~ari".

\i gledame i |i slu{ame kako go la`at Makedonskiot narod so nivnite 
kamofla`ni izjavi so vetuvawe na golemo bogatstvo, so med i maslo i so 
golemi brda i planini. Kako {to se la`ae{e Makedonskiot narod poslednite 
10-11 g. Taka se prodol`uva i deneska.
[to velat ovie mafija{ki banditi "pratenici" od anti makedonskiot, 
predavni~kiot i mafja{ko banditskoto "sobranie"-Ventilator. ]e se zalagale 
protiv MITOTO I KORUPCIJATA i u{te {yo ti ne izmisleni kamofla`ni muabeti.
Moj narode dali vie |i po~ituvate i repektirate ovie mafija{ki banditi. Zar 
ne gledate i zar ne znaete deka tie se koruptirani od peta pa do vrvot na 
nivnite izgnieni TIKVI, korupirani se vo venite, vo mozgovite i venite, tie 
od ovo MITO ja uni{tuvat na{ata mila i sakana tatkovina Makedonija i 
Makedonskiot narod.

Vo ove esenski predavni~ki i mafojo banditski "parlamentarni izbori", }e 
padnat mnogo Makedonski `rtvi i vizi~i tortirani makedonski narod, koj {to 
}e odbie da si go dade svojot glas na ovie prokleti predavni~ki 
yverovi-yverki i mafija{ki banditi.

Jas Apeliram do makedonskiot narod, da ne iska~a za glasawe. Makedonskiot 
narod da |i bojkotira ovie mafija{ki i banditski izbori. Makedonskiot narod 
da ne glasa vo korist na ovie anti makedonci, predavni~ki yverovi-yverski, 
mafija{ki banditi i teroristi. Ako Makedonski nariod glasa za ovie mafija{ki 
banditi, toga{ ste glasale i ste potpi{ale za uni{tuvawe na Majka Makedonija 
i na Makedonskiot narod. So va{ite glsovi im davate seleno svetlo da ja 
podelat na{ata Majka Makedonija i da mu go uni{tat identitetot na 
Makedonskiot narod. Iako Majka Makedonija e podelena na dva dela, mislam 
Vardarskiot del na Makedonija, samo {to se u{te ne se napraveni granicite, 
od kade e golema "albanija" i od kade e golema "bugarija". Po{to gledame i 
site znaeme deka zapadniot del na Makedonija e ve}e daden na tiranskite 
teroristi, fa{isti i mafija{ki banditi. Vo zapadniot del na Makedonija, se 
znae koj komanduva i koj izvr{uva yversko etni~ko ~istenwe, yverski genocidi 
nad Makedonskiot narod, se znae koj yverski go tortira, yverski go ubiva i 
masakrira na Makedonskiot narod, se znae koj |i kidnapira Makedonskite 
civili (so maloletni de~iwa, `eni i starci), |i kidnaprirat i yverski |i 
tortirat a potoa yveski |i masakrirat, pa yverski se silovat makedonskite 
devojki i `eni. Se znae koj |i pla~ka domovite i koj |i pali i ru{i 
ogni{tata, crkvite, manastirite na Makedonskiot narod. Toa se {iptarskoto 
balisti~ko gadno pleme, so golema podr{ka i sorabotka od zapadnite nacisti, 
fa{isti, varvari i teroristi, i so golema podr{ka i sorabotka so 
Makedonskite predavni~ki yvwerovi-yverski i mafija{ki banditi.

Taka da moi bra}a i sestri Makedonki i Makedonci, nemojte da glasate za ovoe 
mafija{ki bandi, sedete si doma i gledajte |i kako {iptarskite balisti od 
srpskata provincija kosovo i metohija i od taka nare~enata "albanija" na 
makedonskata teritorija }e si vleguvat vo Vardarskiot del na Makedonija i }e 
glasat za nivnite lideri na nivnite teroristi~ki i mafijo banditskite 
organizacii i za Makedonskite predavni~ki yverovi-yverski i mafija{ki 
banditi.

Jas ne skam da tro{am mnogo vreme za tie anti makedonci, predavni~ki 
yverovi-yverski i mafij{ki banditi vo anti makedonskoto 
"sobranie"-Ventilator i za ovie anti makedonci, predavni~ki yverovi-yverski 
i mafija{ki banditi od anti makedonskata, predavnika i mafija banditska 
"vlada"-Ventilator.

Jas mo`am da tro{am golema energija i drago ceneto vreme, so vas bra}a i 
sestri Makedonki i Makedonci. Da vi dadam predlozi, idei, zada~i i operacii, 
kako treba da se borime protiv na{ite neprijateli, nacisti, fa{isti, 
okupatori, provokatori, agresori, falcifikatori, uni{tuva~i, vragovi, 
yverovi, predavnici i protiv mafija{kite banditi. Kako da |i uni{tuvame i 
likvidirame ovie na{i makedonski predavni~ki yverovi-yverski. I kako da |i 
uni{tuvame i likvidirame zapadnite nacisti, fa{isti, agresori, provokatori i 
fanatici, {to doa|at vo na{ata Majka Makedonija i ja uni{tuvat Majka 
Makedonija i Makedonskiot narod, isto taka za unu{tuvawe i likvidirawe na 
{iptarskite balisti~ki teroristi, fa{isti i mafija{ki banditi.

Predlogot odnosno porakata do site makedonci, a posebno do Makedonskite 
komiti i patrioti. Makedonski narode, nemojte da izleguvate po plo{tadate vo 
Makedonskite gradovi za da |i slu{ate ovie Makedonski predavni~ki 
yverovi-yverski i mafija{ki banditi, po{to tie se poveketo strani agenti i 
{pijuni a Makedonski predavnici |i ima vo nivnite pozadini kako nivni 
zagar~iwa.

Specijana poraka do Makedonskite komiti i patrioti. Koj treba i mora 
seriozno da ja prifatat. Makedonskite komiti i patrioti, }e morat da se 
snabduvat so lesno naoru`uvawe, specijalno da se snabduvat so snajperi i si 
zazemat stabilni i sigurni polo`aj, za likvidirawe na ovie prokleti 
yverovi-yverski {to odozgora |i spomnaf. Tie treba da se likvidirat vo 
momentite koga }e iska~at na plo{tadite i koga }e |i krevat racete na visoko 
i glasot na visoko preku nivnite mikrofoni. Sakam da ka`am dka tuka naj 
lesno mo`eme da |i likvidirame. Se razbira deka e malku te{ko i komlicirano 
da se likvidirat koga se vo nivnite lukzuzni vili ili taka re~eno palati, a 
i vo nivnite "kancelarii".
Istite akcii i operacii va`at i za {iptarskite teroristi, fa{iti, agresori, 
provokatori i mafija{ki banditi i za zapadnite nacisti, fa{isti, varvari, 
teroristi, agresori, provokatori, fanatici i mafija{ki banditi.

I u{te nekolku va`ni akcii i operacii do makedonskite komiti i patrioti. 
Kako {to rekov organizirajte se vo pomali grupi i napadnete |i agresorite i 
provokatorite od zapadniot svet, po nivnite okupatorski ~izmari (mislam na 
~izmarite na "nato" so nivni vozila pa i osameni ~izmari, i na "obse"). Kaj 
}e sretnete natovski ~izmari, izpraznete |i magacinite na va{ite pi{toli ili 
avtomati, istoto da go storite i na ovie od "obse" kaj }e gi sretnete 
nivnite vozila (se razbira koga }e bidat polni so agresori i provokatori), 
vrlete im ra~ni bobi ili ekslozivi, neka izgorat kako glufci.

Po~ituvani moi Makedonci, site nie sme dol`ni da si ja branime na{ata Majka 
Makedonija i Makedonskiot narod od ovie prokleti, okupatori, agresori, 
provokatori, falcifikatori, nacisti, fa{isti i fanatici. Kako i od 
Makedonskite predavni~ki yverovi-yverski.

Kako {to rekov vo gornite to~ki deka ja imate mojata celosna podr{ka i jas 
}e ja prezemam celata odgovornost i neka mene me sudat i osudat.

Ne smeeme vi{e da ~ekame i ne smeeme vi{e da si dozvolime nekoj od strana da 
ni komanduva i da ni sudi {to nie treba da pravime i rabotime vo na{ata 
Majka makedonija so na{iot makedonski narod i so strancite.
Po{to krajot na Majka Makedonija i na Makedonskiot narod mu doa|a i za mnogo 
kratko vreme mrakot }e ne goltni, ako nie Makedoncite ne se obedinime i 
postaneme solidarni.

(14). Poraka, povik so mnogo va`en predlog, do na{iot Makedonski narod vo 
Dijasporata.

Po~ituvani Makedonci, jas imam eden predlog, koj {to treba i e potreben da 
se prifati seriozno. Mojt predlog e: Da se sobereme nie Makedoncite vo 
dijasporata za edna se makedonska sredba, vo nekoja od zapadnite zemji, a 
naj izvodlivo bi bilo vo edna zemja od zapadna evropa.
Moj predlog e da se odr`i sredbata vo Porane{na Skandinavaska Provincija 
[vedska (Former Scandinavian Province of Sweden-(FSPOS) Na taa sredba bi se 
razgovaralo za ogromnata katastrofa {to ja ima snajdeno na{ata mila i sakana 
tatkovina Makedonija i za zagrozeniot, nastaradnaiot i napateniot Makedonski 
narod.

Jas ova sredba bi ja narekol kako:
KONGRES NA MAKEDONSKATA EMIGRACIJA 2002 Godina.
Na ova sredba treba da u~estvuvat Pretsedatelite i sekretarite na 
Makedonskite organizaciii, na Makedonskite zdru`enija, na Makedonskite 
crkveni op{tini, i popovite na Makedonskite crkvi.
Mo`at da u~estvuvat Makedonci i od drugi Makedonski asisuacii i institucii. 
Se razbira po 2dva Delegata od sekoja Makedonska institucija i asisuacija.
Sredbata da se planira za vo krajot na Juni ili po~etokot na Juli mesec 2002 
g. Naj doro bi bilo da se zapo~ne vo Petok na sabale i da se zavr{i vo 
nedela vo kasnite ve~erni ~asovi.

Ne bi se zadr`aval so nekoi detalni objasnuvawa, po{to na site nas Makedonci 
ni e poznato i ni e jasna i vidliva zamra~enata slika vo Majka Makedonija.

Mo`am samo edno da spomnam, iljadnici na{i mladi inteligentni Makedon~iwa ja 
napu{tija Majka Makedonija i u{te iljadnici se spremat da ja napu{tat Majka 
Makedonija. Nie sme dol`ni da go spre~ime toa iseluvawe od mladi i 
inteligentni Makedonci. Za taa tema bi bilo podobro da se razgovara na 
sredbata doklolku ja prifatite mojata idea.

Mo`am da spomnam edna mnogo va`na rabota, koj {to treba i mora da se zavr{i 
pod itno.
Mene mi se obrati eden na{ Makedonski profesor, pro~itate ja negovata 
poraka. A odozdola }e vi go dostavam i mojot odgovor, koj {to jas ve}e go 
imam staveno i vo Veb sajtot na Organizacijata VMRO-MNM. Linkot od mojot 
odgovor go imate posle negovata poraka.

From: jane bilbiloski redacted@yahoo.com
To: Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet redacted@hotmail.com
Subject: zdravo vojvodo
Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 17:10:39 -0800 (PST)

Se vikam Janko, od Gostivar sum. Imam 27 godini po profesija sum profesor po 
makedonski jazik i makedonska knizevnos, a zena mi e ucitelka. Cenejci gi 
tvoite patriotski zalaganja i pomos kon Makedoncite imam edna molba do tebe. 
Jas i zena mi sme nevraboteni pa te molime cenejci go tvojot respekt kaj 
Makedoncite vo dijasporata dokolku si vo moznost da ni pomognes pri 
vrabotuvanje vo nekoj makedonski klub vo stranstvo kako profesori po 
makedonski jazik. Jas dobro ja poznavam i istorijata na Makedonija pa so 
mojata strucnost i strucnosta na zenami veruvam deka ke doprineseme za 
zacuvuvanje, a isto taka i ucenje na makedonskiot jazik na Makedoncite koi 
podolgo vreme se vo strnstvo.

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Site nie Makedonci vo dijasporata sme dol`ni na bilo kakov na~in da im 
pomogneme na na{ite bra}a i sestri od Majka Makedonija. Pa zatoa ve 
zadol`uvam vas za da se dogovorite vie od Makedonskite zdru`enija za da se 
pronajdi re}enie i da se zaposli ovaj na{ zagrozen Makedonski bra~ni par vo 
nekoi od Makedonskite asisuacii i institucii. Se razbira deka toj bra~en par 
mo`e mnogo da pridonese za na{ite makedonski de~iwa. Nemojte da mi ka`ete 
deka ne se mo`i i nemote da mi ismisluvate nekoi si krivi drini. Znam deka 
se mo`e i deka se potrebni Makedonski profesori i u~iteli.
Jas baram od Makedoncite vo dijasporata pod itno da se zaposli Makedonskiot 
bra~en par. Povi{e da ne objasnuvam za parpt, po{to }e diskutirame na se 
makedonskata sredba.

Moite planovi za sredbata se slednite: Da se povrzat kontakti so Upravnite 
odbori do site makedonski klubovi i do crkvente op{tini i do 
Pretsedatelsvata na organizaciite.
Od koga toa }e se stori site upravni odbori da povikat pro{ireni sredbi, za 
da si donest odluka za mojot predlog. Od koga toa }e se stori Pretsedatelite 
ili sekretarite na organizaciite, klubovite i crkvenite op{tini da me 
isvestat so pismo deka go imat prifateno mojot predlog. Pismenoto 
izvestuvawe mora da bide isprateno do mojata po{tenska adresa, preko E-mail 
pismo ne priznavam, po{to pismoto odnosno dokumentot treba da bide zaveren 
so pe~at i potpis od pretsedatelot na klubot i na crkvenata op{tina.
Preko E-maili mo`e da me obavestuvat deka kontaktite se povrzuvat i deka e 
pozitivno, isto taka preko E-maili mo`eme da se dogovorime vo koj grad da se 
napravi se makedonskata sredba.

Mojata adresa e:

Macedonian Organization VMRO-MNM
C/O Pre. Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet
Koppargarden 13 C
261 43 Landskrona
SWEDEN

(15). Poraka do Makedonskite dobrovolni borci i rezervisti vo anti 
makedonskata "arm"-Ventilator i vo "mvr"-Ventilator.

Makedonski borci i patrioti, jas znam deka mnogo od vas se realni, ~esni i 
verni Makedonci, koj {to ste se prijavile dobovolno vo redovite na ovie dve 
anti makedonski organizacii "arm"-Ventilator i "mvr"-Ventilator, za da ja 
branite na{ata Majka Makedonija i Makedonskiot narod, od ovie prokleti 
{iptarski balisti~ki agresori, provokatori, teroristi, fa{isti, mafija{ki 
bandi i okupatori.
Se pojavija nekolku borbeni grupi soimiwa vo tie dve anti makedonski 
organizacii. "Makedonski volci", "tigri" , "{korpioni" i "makedonski 
lavovi". Seto toa e edna kamofla`na platforma, koj {to se ismisleni od anti 
makedonskite institucii i asisuacii, od zapadnite biokratski mafjio 
banditite i fanaticite od sosednite okupatori so nivni spremani agenti, 
{pijuni i fanatici, od Makedonskite predavni~ki yverovi-yverski i mafija{ki 
banditi.

Jas ne znam dali vie site Makedonski borci i patrioti, imate primeteno, deka 
ste iznevereni i deka toa vetuvawe ne se ispolni i ne se ostvari, od ovie 
taka nare~enite "makedonski ministeri" i od taka nare~eniot "makedonski 
pretsedatel". Neli bevte za da ja branite na{ata mila i sakana tatkovina 
Makedonija i za za{tituvawe na Makedonskiot narod od ovie gadni {iptarski 
balisti~ki teroristi, fa{isti i mafija{ki banditi.
Ete gledate deka zapadniot dela na Makedonija e pod kontrola na {tiptraskoto 
balisti~ko gadno pleme.

Dali ne e dovolno {to oie anti makedonci, predavni~ki yverovi-yverski i 
mafija{ki banditi. Boris Trajkovski-Vladikata, Qub~o \ergievski-Narkomanot, 
Qjbe Bo{kovski-Slatkarot i mnogo drugi "politi~arski ko{tapleri" vi vetuvaa 
vas i na celiot Makedonski narod. Deka mir }e ima i par~e od ova zemja ne 
davame, kako ne cela zapadna makedonija ja dadoa na {iptarskite balisti i 
Makedonskata teritorija so Makedonskiot istoriski Manastir Prohor P~inski ja 
dadoa na srbskite ~etnici i fa{isti.

Vie dobro znaete kolku na{i mladi borci HEROI (va{i drugari, va{i bra}a i 
Makedonski ~eda), bea yverski tortirani i masakrirani od {iptarskite 
balisti~ki teroristi, fa{isti i mafija{ki bandi (vo namesteni zasedi), so 
golema pomo{ i sorabotka od Makedonskite izrodi, predavni~ki 
yverovi-yverski, od agentite i {pijunite od sosednite neprijateli i od 
zapadnata nacisti~ka, fa{isti~ka, varvarska, teroristi~ka i mafija{ka 
banditska organizacija "nato", a i "obse".

Vo {to mi e zborot, zborot mi e deka site na{i Makedonski patrioti i borci, 
{to se pojdeni i pridru`eni vo tie anti makedonski organizacii 
"arm"-Ventilator i "mvr"-Ventilator. Se nao|ate vo golema opasnosto, se 
nao|ate vo `ivotna opasnost. Vie ne znaete so {to ve trujat, vie ne znaete 
{to jadete i {to piete. Jas veruvam i sum ubeden deka vo va{eto jadewe i 
pijalok vi se stava MANIPULIRANI PRODUKTI I TE^NOSTI. Taka da vas vi se 
zatrovuva krvta i organizmot i voedno vo idnina }e imate golemi posledioci 
vo mozgovite. Ako vie ne razmislite, ili ne ste seu{te prometile deka ste 
zatroveni od MANIPULIRANI PRODUKTI I TE^NOSTI, SO RAZNI OTROVNI HEMIKALII. 
Toga{ }e si videte kakvi posledici }e imate vo va{iot.
Jas ne sakam mnogo da pi{uvam, po{to stvarno mnogo znam i imam mnogo {to da 
vi ka`am a mnogo malku vi pi{uvam.

Mojata poraka e so eden vid na APEL do site Makedonski komiti, patrioti i 
borci, {to ste se oblekle vo borbeni uniformi i ste se fatile za oru`je za 
da ja branite Majka Makedonija i Makedonskiot narod od ovo prokleto smrdlivo 
{iptarsko balisti~ko pleme.
APELIRAM do site Makedonski komiti, patrioti i borci, da se povle~at pod 
itno, odnosno da |i napu{tat ovie anti makedonski organizacii 
"arm"-Ventilator i "mvr"-Ventilator i da i se pridru`ite odnosno da bidete 
zaedno so mene i so VNATRE[NATA MAKEDONSKA REVOLUCIONERNA ORGANIZACIJA - 
MAKEDONIJA NA MAKEDONCITE ( V M R O - M N M ).
I site zaedno da se organizirame i da bideme solidarni i da se borime protiv 
na{ite neprijateli, vragovi, provokatori, agresori, yverovi-yverski, du{mani 
i okupatori. Da se borime protiv na{ite Makedonski izrodi predavni~ki 
yverovi-yverski i mafija{ki banditi. Ako ja sakame i ako imame Qubov kon 
Majka Makedonija i kon celiot Makedonski narod, }e morame da se obedinime i 
organizirame vo edena i edinstvena MAKEDONSKA REVULUCIONERNA ORGANIZACIJA.
I site zaedno da bideme solidarni kako eden za site i site za eden. Taka 
mo`eme da ja oslobodime na{ata Majka Makedonija i Makedonskiot narod od ovo 
dolgo vekovno okupatorstvo i ropstvo.

Jas znam i sum ubeden vo toa, deka vo ovie momenti dosta Makedonski borci 
koj {to se vo tie redovi, se spremni da |i napu{tat anti makedonskite i 
uni{tuva~kite organizacii "arm"-Ventilator i "mvr"-Ventilator. Jas li~no 
imam zboreno so del od tie Makedonski borci, koga bev zimovo vo Majka 
Makedonija.

(16). Poraka do {iptarskoto balisti~ko, teroristi~ko, fa{isti~ko i mafija{ko 
banditsko gadno pleme (pleme od azijatskiot kafkaz).
Organizacijata VMRO-MNM. Vi dava rok od 30set dena sve do edn {iptarski 
balista, da ja napu{tite Makedonskata dr`ava.
Dokolku ne ja imate napu{teno Makedonskata dr`ava vo ovaj rok od 30set dena, 
toga{ }e bideme nie provocirani i }e morame da ve isterame prisilno.

[iptraski balisti, morate da ja prifatite porakata i da si odite od tamo kaj 
{to ste dojdeni. Vakvo gadno teroristi~ko, fa{isti~ko i mafija{ko kriminalno 
banditsko pleme vo na{ata Makedonska dr`ava ne ni e potrebno. Makedonskiot 
narod so vas nemo`e da ima nekoj si zaedni~ki so`ivot i nikoga{ nema ni da 
imame zaedni~ki so`ivot. A zo{to, toa nie Makedoncite mnogo dobro go znaaeme 
a i vie mnogo dobro go znaaete. Dosega{nite yverski zlostorstva {to vie go 
imate storeno nad Makedonskiot narod, e ne prifatliv i nikog{ nema da vi go 
zaboravime i nikoga{ nema da vi go opraostime. I ne samo {to nema da vi 
zaboravime i nema da vi oprostime za va{ite yverski zlostorstva, nego i }e 
vi vratime 3troduplo. Pa makar i Makedonski Revolucioneri neka |i odnesat vo 
ovaj prokleti zapadni nacisti~ki, fa{isti~ki, varvarski, teroristi~ki, 
mafija{ki banditski, provokatorski i agresorski Haa{ki sud.

Po{to ovaj va{ prijatelski sud vo Haag, ne odnese i ne pobara poternici 
protiv va{ite teroristi~ki, fa{isti~ki i mafijo banditi i lideri, za 
ogromnite yverski zlostorstva nad makedonskiot narod. Taka da nie 
Makedonskite komiti i patrioti re{ivme nie samite da |i apsime site va{i 
teroristi, fa{isti i mafija{ki banditi i nie da im sudime za nivnite yverski 
zlostorstva. Sve se snae i sve e doka`ano so fakti deka se imat storeni 
ogromni yverski zlostorstva nad Makedonskiot narod. Pa zatoa nie 
Makedonskite komiti i patrioti imame pravo da |i apsime i da |i sudime tamo 
kade {to se izvr{eni yverskite zlostorstva.

Nemoj da mislite deka lesno }e si pominite site vie balisti, ako ne ja 
napu{tite Makedonskata dr`ava vo rok od 30set dena. Po{to pazite ovo. Nie 
Makedonskite komiti i partrioti }e |i likvidirame, }e |i uni{time i 
Makedonskite izrodi predavni~ki yverovi-yverski i mafija{ki banditi. Po{to i 
tie se zaslu`ile istata presuda kako i va{ite teroristi, fa{isti i mafija{ki 
banditi. Taka da nie Makedonskite komiti i patrioti, }e bideme podr`ani od 
Makedonskiot narod, po{to Makedonskite predavni~ki yverovi-yverski se 
uni{teni.
Makedonskiot narod nema da bide kako {to e srpskiot narod, {to si dozvoli da 
ova nivna dene{na zapadna {pijunska vlada si |i predava vo nelelegalniot 
zapadni Haa{ki "sud". Svoite borci i voda~i {to se borele protiv va{ite 
teroristi, fa{isti i mafija{ki banditi vo nivnata provincija kosovo i 
metohija,

Ova poraka vi ja ispra}am vo ime na Makedonskata dr`ava, vo ime na 
Makedonskiot narod i vo ime na VNATRE[NATA MAKEDONSKA REVOLUVIONERNA 
ORGANIZACIJA - MAKEDONIJA NA MAKEDONCITE (V M R O - M N M).

(17). Po~ituvani bra}a sestri Makedonki i Makedonci: So ova moja posledna 
do~ka od mojata DEKLARACIJA. Vi se obra}am za da mi ja dadete va{ata celosna 
podr}ka i da imate vo mene golema doverba.
Istoto va`i za Organizacijata VMRO-MNM.

Jas kako Makedonski komita i patriot i so dolgi godi}ni aktivnosti i borbi 
za afirmacija na Makedonskata d`ava i za Makedonskiot narod. Mnogo trud i 
energija imam dadeno za Makedonskata kauza.

Pa zatoa jas vi se obra}am do vas moi Makedonci, da mi ja dadete va{ata 
podr{ka i da bidete so mene za so zaedni~ka sorabotka za spas i sloboda na 
na{ata mila i sakana tatkovina Makedonija i za celiot nastradan i napten 
Makedonski narod.

Nie Makedoncite znaeme i gledame, deka se u{te Makedonskiot narod strada i 
pati. Pa zatoa jas vi se ponuduvam za da me prifatite kako va{ lider i da 
zastanete pozadi mene i da se borime site zaedno za ova na{a Majka 
Makedonija, dodeka ne ja goltnal mrakot ( po{to krajot i se pribli`uva na 
Vardarskiot del na Makedonija i krajot mu se pribli`uva na Makedonskiot 
narod, da is~ezne za sekoga{ ).
Po{to seu{te imame vreme i seu{te ne e kasno za da ja oslobodime Majka 
Makedonija od ovo dolgo vekovno ropstvo. Jas veruvam i sum ubeden deka Majka 
Makednija ima vo ovo dene{no vreme rodeno pravi, verni, ~esni i realni 
SINOVI, koj {to }e se borat i sve od sebe }e dadat za da ja spasat i 
oslobodat Majka Makedonija od ovie prokleti okupatori i da go oslobodat 
Makedonskiot narod od ovo prokleto vekovno ropstvo.

Za da mo`eme Organizacijata VMRO-MNM da uspee so svoite vetuvawa kon 
Makedonskiot narod, i e potrebna podr{ka od Makedonskiot narod i celiot 
Makedonski narod treba da bide so nas.
Se razbira deka jas i Organizacijata VMRO-MNM, ne }e mo`ime da vi doka`eme 
deka sme verni, ~esni, po{teni i realni Makedonci, po{to nie ne ja imame 
vlasta vo na{i race.

Jas vi garantiram deka }e uspeeme da storime edna napredna Makedonska 
dr`ava, da imame edna stabila idnina.
Samo ako vie moi Makedonci mi ja dadete va{ata podr{ka, da jas sostavam edna 
prava i realna Makedonska vlada, da jas sostavam edno pravilno i realno 
Makedonsko sobranie, da jas odberam Makedonski abasadori vo Makedonskite 
nadvore{ni diplomatski pristavni{tva, da jas ja imam pod moja kontrola 
Makedonskata Narodna Armija - MNA i Makedonskata policija -MVR.

Toga{ moi Makedonci }e vidite dali vo Makedonskata vlada, vo sobranieto, vo 
MNA i vo MVR }e postojat koruptirani Makedonci, koj {to se zarazeni so ovo 
MITO. Tgoa{ }e vidite dali vo Makedonskata vlada, sobranie, MNA i MVR, }e 
postojat strani agenti i {pjiuni. Toga{ }e videte dali vo na{ata Majka 
Makedonija }e postojat Makedonski predavnici. Toga{ }e videte dali vo 
Makedonskata vlada }e postojat {iptarski balisti~ki teroristi i fa{isti za 
ministeri i zamenici na ministeri, toaga{ }e videte dali }e postojata 
stranski politi~ki partii i organizacii, toga{ }e videte dali }e postojat 
stranski pratenici vo Makedonskoto sobranie, toga{ }e videte dali }e 
postojat stranski voeni generali i oficeri vo MNA, dali }e postojat stranski 
policajci, na~alnici, i inspektori vo MVR, toga{ }e videte dali }e postojat 
stranski Grado na~alnici vo Makedonskite op{tini, toga{ }e videte dali }e 
postojat stranski ambasadori vo Makedonskite ambasadi i.t.n i.t.n.

Po~ituvani moi Makedonci, nie nemame vreme za gubewe, nie nemame mnogo vreme 
za da si se ubeduvame i jas nemam mnogo vreme za da vi objasnuvam za mojata 
realnost, za mojata golema aktivnost i borba za Makedonskata kauza. Zo{to 
jas nemam vreme eve zo{to, jas za ovie dolgi godini imam objasnuvano i 
pi{uvano, a za uzvrat od toa ni{to ne se stori od strana na Makedonskiot 
narod. Edino se poznava mojata borba za Makedonskata kauza so uspehot vo 
zapadnite zemji. Jas so mojata golema aktivnost |i imam stopirano golemite 
zapadni provokatorski i falcifikatorski mediumi, da ne se pi{uva i poka`va 
golemi propagandi protiv Makedonskiot narod pa i red drugi raboti.

Golema {teta e {to nie vo Majka Makedonija i nadvor od nea nemame Makedonski 
mediumi, da ja podr`at Organizacijata VMRO-MNM i miote aktivnosti i borbi. 
Kako {to imat {iptarskite balist.
Zatoa jas i Organizacijata VMRO-MNM, ne sme zapoznaeni i poznati kaj 
Makedonskiot narod, kako vo Majka Makedonija taka i nadvor od Majka 
Makedonija.

A sega na kraj od ova moja DEKLARACIJA vi ostavam vam bra}a sestri Makedonki 
i Makedonci, da razmislite i odlu~ite dali }e mi ja dadete va{ata celosna 
podr{ka, istoto va`i i za Organizacijata VMRO-MNM.

Ova Deklaracija, kako i porane{nite moi materijali, }e bide ispratena na 
golem broj na Makedonski narod, vo Majka Makedonija i {irom celiot svet. 
Po{to vo ovo vreme ima Internet, pa pove}eto Makedoncite se zapoznavat preko 
nivnite E-maili.
Jas |i zadol`uvam site Makedonci, koj {to }e ja dobijat Deklaracijata na 
nivnite E-mail po{ti, da odvojat skromno vreme i da se potrudat da ja 
prepratuvat do nivnite rodnini, prijateli pa i po{iroko. Isto taka da se 
potrudite da ja izvadite od Veb sajtot i da ja dadete na tie Makedonci koj 
{to nemat doma kopjuteri ili internet. Da ja pra}ate do Makedonskite 
mediumi, edno stavno do site Makedonski asisuacii i institucii.

So Makedonski bratski, komitski i patriotski pozdravi.

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Pretsedatel Na Makedonskata Organizacija VMRO-MNM

Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet


Vnatre{na Makedonska Revolucionarna Organizacija - Makedonija Na Makedoncite 
( VMRO-MNM ) !
Pretsedatel: Qup~o Mir~evski-Trepet

Veb stranica na VMRO-MNM: http://www.vmro-mnm.com
Kontakti na E-mail adresi: TREPET redacted@vmro-mnm.com, VMRO-MNM 
redacted@vmro-mnm.com

24 Dekemvri 2002 g.

I Z J V A !

Po~ituvani bra}a i sestri Makedonki i Makedonci !
Ova moja izjava ja pi{uvam vo vrska so novo formiranata anti makedonska 
{iptaro balisti~ka, teroristi~ka, fa{isti~ka i mafijo banditska organizacija 
“demokratska unia za integracija ( dui )”.
I so del na dru|i predlozi i kritiki kon mojot sopstven Makedonski narod.

Moi Makedonci mnogo pro~itav i slu~am deka {irom celiot Vardarski del na 
Makedonija, masivno na Makedonski narod se prodavat za 500-1000 euro - 
dolari i se za~lenuvat vo taa anti makedonska {iptaro balisti~ka, 
teroristi~ka, fa{isti~ka i mafijo banditska organizacija “demokratska unia 
za integracija ( dui )”. Isto taka masivno na Makedonski intelektualci, 
pravnici, ekonomisti, akademci, profesori, doktori i biznis meni se 
za~lenuvat vo istata teroristi~ka i mafijo banditska organizacija za svoi 
li~ni interesi i za pogolemo zbogatuvawe preko teroristichki, fashistichki i 
mafijo banditski strukturi.

Moi Makedonci jas se ~ustvuvam krajno razo~aren, revoltiran, osramen i 
poni`en od mojot sopstven Makedonski narod.
Dali mojata Majka Makedonija postana sto~ni pazar za otkup na Makedonski 
narod za nekolku dolar~iwa i euro.

Moi Makedonci dali ne vie sramota toa {to go rabotite, dali vie ste tolku 
eftini Makedonci, ili ste tolku naivni i drogirani da ne znaete {to pravite. 
Nemojte da mi ka`uvate deka siroma{tijata bedata ve dotera do toj pat za da 
se prodavate kako stoka na azijatsko kafkazko albansko divo, zasmrdeno i 
gadno pleme.
Dali vie tolku brzo |i zaboravivte yverskite zlostorstva {to |i imat storeno 
nad Makedonskiot narod i seu{te se pravat yverski slostorstva na site vas 
Makedonci. Dali vie se odlu~uvate da si go prodate Makedonskiot identitet za 
edna {aka dolar~iwa i euro.
Videte vaka jas ne sakam i nikoga{ nema da prifatam da si go smenam niti da 
si go prodadam mojot Makedonski identitet. Jas sum gord Makedonec i gord }e 
ostanam ama se sramam od takvite kako vas {to za {aka dolar~iwa i euro si go 
prodavat Makedonskiot identitet. Ne samo {to si go prodavate va{iot 
identitet, nego ja prodavate i Makedonskata zemja, ja prodavate i 
Makedonskata istorija, kultura, tradicii i sve dr.

I ovo da vi go ka`am, so ovie mali dolar~iwa i euro {to ste vie kupeni, tie 
pari se dadeni od zapadniot diktatoriski re`im, nacisti~ki, fa{isti~ki, 
agresorski, teroristi~ki i mafijo banditski zapaden svet. Zapadniot svet ja 
ima organizirano taa teroristi~ka i mafijo banditska organizacija (dui), se 
razbira zaedno so masivnite Makedonski izrodi, predavni~ki yverovi - 
yverski. Tuka se vlo`eni te{ki miqjoni dolari i euro pa duri i neisplatenite 
mese~ni plati na Makedonskite rabotnici. Site tie te{ki miqjoni se tokmu 
opqja~kani od bogatsvoto na Vardarskiot del na Makedonija, od buxetot na 
Vardarskiot del na Makedonija i od neisplatenite mese~ni plati na 
Makedonskite rabotnici - robovi. Del od tie pari {to ve kupuvat {iptarskite 
teroristi i mafija{ki bandite se parite koj {to gi zarabotuvat od va{ite 
deca {to im se prodava droga i otkupot na kidnapiranite Makedonski de~iwa za 
robovn na prostitucija po zapadnite zemji i vo no}nite {iptarski pr~varnici. 
Taka da so va{i pari ve kupuvat kako stoka, so va{i i na{i kamewa po na{i 
glavi ne udirat i ni |i zamotuvat mozocite.
Poraka do gore navedenite obrazovani i diplomirani li~nosti:

Makedonski intelektualci i akademci: Va{ite diplomi se za da bidete 
sovetnici i ~lenovi na realni i ~esni Makedonski strukturi, a ne za se 
za~lenuvawe vo anti makedonska, teroristi~ka, fa{isti~ka i mafijo banditska 
organizacija “dui”; Nemjote da bidete sovetnici na {iptarskite teroristi, 
Fa{isti i mafija{ki banditi. I nemjte da bidete sovetnici na Makedonskite 
izrodi, predavni~kite yverovi - yverski. Bidete sovetnici na vistinskite, 
realnite i ~esnite Makedonski politi~ari i revolucioneri.

Makedonski u~iteli i prpfesori: Va{ite diplomi se za vo Makedonskite u~li{ta 
i univerzitetitie a ne za za~lenuvawe vo anti makedonska, teroristi~ka, 
fa{isti~ka i mafijo banditska organizacija “dui”; U~ete |i Makedonskite 
u~enici i studenti so Makedonskata vistinska istorija, kultura i tradicii i 
za sve {to e MAKEDONSKO. Nemojte da |i u~ite Makedonskite u~enici i 
studenti, so atiwanska istorija, so azijatsko mongolska-tatarska po “bnvo 
bugarska“ istorija, so azijatska kafkazska albanska istorija i so srpska 
~etnika istorija i dr. Vie mnogo dobro znaete deka tie Makedonski 
neprijateli i okupatori ja imamt kopirano i falcifikovano Makedonskata 
istorija, kulturi i tradici.

Makedonski pravnici: Va{ite diplomi se za vo sutskite prostorii a ne za 
za~lenuvawe vo anti makedonska, teroristi~ka, fa{isti~ka i mafijo banditska 
organizacija “dui”, sudii, javni oveniteli i advokati: Branete i 
za{tituvajte |i dobrite, vernite. ~esnite, realnite, napatenite i porobenite 
Makedonci, branete i za{tituvajte |i realnite i ~esnite Makedonski komiti, 
patrioti i borci. Nemojte da |i branite i za{tituvate Makedonskite mafija{ki 
banditi i Makedonskite izrodi, predavni~ki yverovi-yverski. I nemojte da |i 
branite i za{tituvate Makedonskite neprijateli, okupatori a naj vi{e vo 
poslednite 10-12 godini |i branite i za{tituvate {iptarskite, teroristi, 
fa{isti i mafija{ki banditi. A |i apsete i pritvarate i |i osuduvate 
dobrite, vernite, realnite i ~esnite Makedonski komiti, patrioti i borci 
(braniteli), {to bea ubeduvani i {to im se vetuva{e deka }e se borat za 
odbrana na “Republika Makedonija” taka da masivno se prijavile kako 
dobrovolci za odbrana na zagrozeniot i porobeniot Vardarskiot del na 
Makedonija i za za{tita na zagrozeniot i porobeniot Makedonski narod. A na 
kraj ispadna da site tie dobri, verni, ~esni i realni Makedonski komiti, 
patrioti i borci bea vo o~i prela`eni i predadeni. Pa taka da i po~naa da se 
apsat i da se pritvarat vo anti makedonskite zatvori. A da im se dade 
amnestija i pomiluvawe na zverskite du{manski i sli~inski {iptaro-balisti~ki 
teroristi, fa{isti i mafija{ki banditi. Koj {to toj va{ kriminal e o~i 
gledaj}i i vistinski za{titnik i branitel na {iptarskite-balisti~ki 
teroristi, fa{isti i mafija{ki banditi i na Makedonskite mafija{ki banditi i 
Makedonskite izrodi, predavni~ki yverovi-yverski. Vakvo pravosudstvo za 
organizacijata VMRO-MNM e 100% kriminalno i mafija{ko banditsko i nie ne 
prifakjame i ne go priznavame kako Makedonski ~esno i realno sudstvo.

Doktori va{ite diplomi se za vo zdrastveni centri a ne za za~lenuvawe vo 
anti makedonska, teroristi~ka, fa{isti~ka i mafijo banditska organizacija 
“dui” : Bidete doktori-lekari da |i le~ite na Makedonskiot narod i na 
privremenite stranci koj {to go po~ituvat i respektirat Makedonskiot zakon 
(Ustavot na Makedonskata dr`ava, se razbira ne toj ustav {to e potpi{aniot 
uni{tuva~ki ramkoven dogovor vo Makedonskiot grad OHRID), se razbira vo 
Vardarskiot del na Makedonija. Nemojte da |i le~ite {iptarskite teroristi, 
fa{isti i mafija{ki banditi i site dru|i {iptraski-balisti koj {to |i 
podr`avat na nivnite teroristi, fa{isti i mafija{ki banditi.

Jas }e dodadam i za Makedonskite istori~ari i pisateli, kako i za 
Makedonskite novinari.

Makedonski istori~ari i pisateli: Vie se imate deklarisano kako istori~ari i 
pisateli, i barate od Makedonskiot narod da ve priznaat kako realni i ~esni 
Makedonski istori~ari i pisateli. No ne rabotite kako {to treba, del od tie 
istori~ari pisateli rabotite vo prilog na Makedonskite neprijateli, 
falcisikatori, kriminalci i okupatori, a ne da ja pi{uvate vistinskata 
Makedonska istorija, nego imate pi{uvano dosta nepravdini. Taka da jas i 
Organizacijata VMRO-MNM, da ne mo`eme i da si dozvolime na koj istori~ar i 
pisatel da veruvame.
Eve jas da vi spomnam za edna slu~ka i toa dosta seriozna i va`na. 
Organizacijata VMRO-MNM, dobi nekolku E-mail poraki od na{i Makedonci, koj 
{to `iveat nadvor od na{ata Majka Makedonija, za da im pomogneme so 
pronava|awe na nivnite naj bliski i za Makedonski gradovi vo porobeniot 
Egejski del na Makedonija. Ne odamna Organizacijata VMRO-MNM dobi edna 
E-mail poraka od na{a Makedonka za da i pomogneme so eden od Makedonskite 
gradovi vo Egejskiot del na Makedonija. Za da ne napravime nekoja gre{ka, 
eden na{ ~len se obrati so edna E-mail poraka do Makedonskite istori~ari i 
pisateli, kako dosta priznat i naj golem Makedonski istori~ar Aleksandar 
Donski i Tihomir Stojanovskji. [to mislite vie dra|i Makedonci, dali dobivme 
pomo{. Ne ne dobivme niti odgovor a kamoli da dobieme fakti. E da im 
ponudivme nekolku iljadi dolari ili euro, jas veruvam deka }e napi{aa barem 
nekolku zbora.

Makedonski novinari: Jas znam deka pogolemiot broj na novinarite ste ~isti 
Makedonci, no site ste strani platenici, agenti i {pijuni.
Vie kako novinari ste za da |i branite i za{tituvate Makedonskite nacionalni 
i dr`avni interesi, a ne da |i branite i za{tituvate li~nite interesi na 
anti makedoncite, na Makedonskite neprijateli, na Makedonskite okupatori i 
na Makedonskite mafija{ki banditi, na Makedonskite izrodi, predavni~ki 
yverovi-yverski.

Za site tie gore navedenite obrazovani i diplomirani li~nosti, koj {to se 
odreknuvat od Makedonskata dr`ava, od Makedonskiot narod, od Makedonskiot 
identite, od Makedonskata istorija, kultura i tradicii, i se pridru`ile vo 
redovite na anti makedonskite strukturi, postanale Makedonski izrodi, 
predavni~ki yverovi-yverski. [tetnici, du{mani i predavnici. Veruvajte mi 
deka i na vas }e vi dojde krajot, nemote da bidete uvereni i sigurni deka 
ve~no }e go la`ete, kradete i ma~ite napaten i poroben Makedonskiot narod. 
Da znaete odnosno i vie go znaete toa, deka la|ite i kradeweto se mnogo 
kratki noze. Edna{ ili davapati pa i tripati }e izla`ete i }e ukradete, no 
na ~etvrtiot ili petiot pat }e se fatite za opasniot i mno {ilaviot fak. 
Veruvajte mi deka, vo idnina ne }e mo`ete da se kriete ili da begate, kade i 
da odite i da se kriete }e ve pronajdime i }e ve osudime za va{ite 
du{manski, yverski i velepredavni~ki zlostorstva {to |i imate praveno na 
sopstveniot Makedonski narod i na sopstvenata Majka Makedonija. Bidete 
uvereni deka eden den ima da se izgradi robja{ki zatvor tokmu za takvite 
kako vas, pazite po moe mislewe zatvorot }e bide so ~eli~ni kreveti. Ima da 
vle~etete i da nosite na va{ite vratovi ~eli~ni kugli od 30 kila. A za smrta 
}e po~ekate i duri }e ni se molite za da ve ubieme za da ne se ma~ite , ama 
nema toa da vi se prifati. Kako {to mi izgleda deka Organizacijata VMRO-MNM 
}e mora da napravi dolga crna lista so desetina stranici so imiwa na 
Makedonski izrodi, predavni~ki yverovi-yverski.

Po~ituvani bra}a i sestri Makedonki i Makedonci: Dozvoletemi da vi go 
isnesam i ovo moe mislewe a i razo~aruvawe (Naj verovatno dosta na{i 
Makedonci ve}e go znaat toa {to jas }e vi go iznesam).
Kako {to se doznava deka agresorite i okupatorite od zapadnite zemji so 
nivnite diktatori, nacisti, fa{isti, fanatici, teroristi i biokratski 
mafija{ki banditi zaedno so nivnite sorabotnici i platenici mafija{ki 
banditi od Makedonski rod (So Makedonskite izrodi, predavni~kite 
yverovi-yverski) i so nivnte {iptarski-balisti~ki teroristi, fa{isti, 
ekstremisti i mafija{ki banditi.
Za vo prolet se sprema da preglasat odnosno da zapo~nat nova vojna vo 
Vardarskiot del na Makedonija.
Vo sekoj slu~aj ako se zpo~ne taa proletna vojna, odnosno e vo plan da se 
zapo~ne vojnata i da se zavr{at planovite na zapadniot svet i na azijatskoto 
kafazko albansko zasmrdeno i ekstremisti~ko pleme.
Po{to ni se sprema nova vojna, a nie Makedoncite ne pomrdnuvame ni so prst 
za da se obedinuvame i da se organizirame za borba so odbrana na Vardarskiot 
del na Makedonija i za za{tita na celiot Makedonski narod. Zapamtite go i 
ovo, deka ovaj pat celiot Makedonski narod }e bide prisilen da si go meni 
identitetot i }e mora da pristane da se podeli Vardarskiot del na 
Makedonija. Pred da se podeli Vardarskiot del na Makedonija i uni{ti 
identitetot na Makedonskiot narod. Vie Makedoncite {to `iveete vo zapadniot 
del na Vardarskiot del na Makedonija }e bide sve do eden zverski poklani i 
masakrirani. Apak Makedoncite vo drugite kraevi na Vardarskiot del na 
Makeodnija }e morate da si go menite identitetot na srbsko ~etni~ki ili na 
azijatsko mongolsko-tatarski identitet.
Kako i {to samite Makedonci znaete deka iljadnici na Makedonci porane{ni 
~lenovi na azijatsko-tatarskata {evonisti~ka, vrhovisti~ka, teroristi~ka i 
mafijo banditskata organizacija “dpmne”-{izofreni~arska pobaraa i dobija 
tatarsko bugarsko dr`avjanstvo. Nomojte da mi ka`ete deka tie Makedonci bile 
presileni da zemat tatarski paso{i. Ne nego toa be{e dobrovolno od 
Makedoncite koj {to ne si ja sakat svojata Makedonska nacionalnost (tie 
makedonci za mne se predavnici i kukavici).

Poraka do site ~esni i realni Makeodnski komiti, patrioti i borci:
Bra}a komiti, patrioti i borci. Kako {to spomnav odozgora za nova vojna vo 
Vardarskiot del na Makedonija. Isto taka i vas vi e poznato vo 
katastrofalnata sostojba vo Majka makedonija, kako pomina na{iot Makeodnski 
narod vo zpadniot del na Vardarskiot del na Makedonija. Isto taka mnogo od 
vas znaete deka {iptarskite teroristi, fa{isti, ekstremisti i mafija{ki 
banditi, zaedno so zapadniot svet i so Makedonskite izrodi, predavni~ki 
yverovi-yverski se pripremat so nova vojna. Pa zatoa jas ve povikuvam {to 
pod itno da se prijavuvate kako dobrovolci vo Organizacijata VMRO-MNM, za 
odbrana na Vardarskiot del na Makedonija i za za{tituvawe na Makedonskiot 
narod. Dosta be{e so zavidnosti i lubomori, dosta vi{e so podr{ki kon anti 
makedonskite taka nare~eni politi~ki partii i organizacii, dosta be{e {to |i 
podr`avavte ovi prokleti Makedonski izrodi, predavni~ki yverovi-yverski. 
Sega e dodeno vremeto da se podr`i Organizacijata VMRO-MNM i da imamte 
doverba vo nea. Do koga }e veruvate vo ovie izmisleni anti makedonski 
komandanti i kapetani vo taka nare~enite “makedonski lavovi, tigri, 
{korpioni i volci” . Dali seu{te sakate da bidete `rtvi na anti makedoncite, 
na Makedonskite izrodi i na {iptarskite teroristi, fa{isti, ekstremisti i 
mafija{ki banditi. Ete vidovte lanskata godina kako bevte iznevereni i 
predadeni. Jas mislam deka mnogo od vas {to bevte dobrovolno prijaveni imate 
pro~itano del od moite apeli, povici i izjavi. Taka da pred vreme ve 
izvestuvav deka ste vo pogre{ni redovi i deka }e bidete iznevereni i 
predadeni. Eve i toa vi e poznato, kolku na{i spremni i re{itelni Makedonski 
komiti, patrioti, borci (braniteli), bea zverski masakrirani i dosta od niv 
te{ko povredeni, pa i dosta od niv se apseni od Makedonskite izrodi, 
predavni~ki yverovi-yverski i zatvoreni zatoa {to se borele protiv 
{iptarskite agresori, teroristi, fa{isti, ekstremisti i mafija{ki banditi. 
Jas mislam deka vie ne treba vi{e da razmisluvate niti da si pomislite da se 
prijavite vo istite redovi, nego sega e dodeno vremeto i na Organizacijata 
VMRO-MNM i da vi doka`e deka e ~ista, cesna i realna Makedonska komitska i 
patriotska organizacija.
I na kraj da vi ka`am i ovo: Veruvajte mi deka so mene i so Organizacijata 
VMRO-MNM, }e uspeeme da povratime sve {to e Makedonsko. Veruvajte vo mene i 
vo Organizacijata VMRO-MNM. Jas ne sum va{ neprijatel i ne sum predavnik, 
nego sum za za{tita na Makedonskite nacionalni i dr`avni interesi.
Za da ne vi pi{uvam dolgi stranici po{to site nie si znaeme {to ni e 
potrebno i koja ni e dol`nosta.

Mojata izjava ja zavr{uvam so ~estitka do site dobri, verni, ~esni, realni, 
zagrozeni i napateni bra}a i sestri Makedonki i Makedonci, neka vi e sre}na 
i plodna novata 2003 godina i bo`i~niot praznik.

So Makedonski bratski, komitiski i patriotski pozdravi do site 
istomislenici, simpatrizeri i ~lenovi na Organizacijata VMRO-MNM, do site 
dobri, verni, ~esni i realni Makedonci, do site Makedonski komiti i 
patrioti, i do na{ata mila i sakana tatkovina MAKEDONIJA.

VE^NO DA @IVEE MAKEDONSKATA ZEMJA!

VE^NO DA @IVEE MAKEDONSKIOT NAROD!

VE^NO DA @IVEE MAKEDONSKOTO ISTORISKO I SVETO VMRO!

VE^NO DA @IVEE VMRO-MNM!

SLOBODA ILI SMRT ZA MAKEDONIJA I ZA MAKEDONSKIOT NAROD!

EDEN ZA SITE I SITE ZA EDEN!

SMRT NA [IPTARSKOTO BALISTI^KO, TERORISTI^KO I FA[ISTI^KO ZASMRDENO 
AZIJATSKO KAVKASKO PLEME!

SMRT NA MAKEDONSKITE IZRODI, PREDAVNI^KI YVEROVI - YVERSKI!

SMRT NA SITE NEPRIJATELI NA MAKEDONSKIOT NAROD!

JAS SUM MAKEDONEC A NE FIROMEC!

NIE SME MAKEDONCI A NE FIROMCI!

GOSPOD NEKA NI E NAPOMO[ I SO GOSPOD NAPRED!

MAKEDONIJA NA MAKEDONCITE!

Pretsedatel na Makedonskata Organizacija VMRO-MNM

Qup~o Mir~evski-Trepet



FROM: "Aleksandar Xxxxxxxxx" <redacted@mt.net.mk>
DATE: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 23:47:11  0100
TO: "VMRO-MNM" redacted@vmro-mnm.com
SUBJECT: MAKEDONIJA NA MAKEDONCITE

Zdravo

Prvo da ti gi cestitam novogodisnite i bozikjnite praznici i se najubavo vo 
2003 godina.

Se zablagodarovam za cestitkite sto mi gi upatuvate vo vrska so attachmentie 
i me raduva sto ste gi prifatile moite soveti i kje bidam tuka za da vi 
pomognam vo vrska so web stranicata. Vo vrska so znameto na prvata stranica 
mislev da se stavi znameto so sonceto od KUTLESH sto se vee. Kazuvate deka 
nemozete da otvorite nekoi od attachmentie i bi bilo dobro ako mi gi kazete 
iminjata na niv za da mozam povtorno da vi gi pratam. Mozebi ima greska vo 
niv.

Me prasuvate vo vrska so zaclenuvanjeto na makedonci vo teroristickata 
organizacija DUI. Pred nekoj den sakav da vi pisam deka zaclenuvanjeto 
zavrsi i deka Makedoncite se osvestija, no togas na televizija slusnav kako 
del od lekarite se zaclenuvaat vo ovaa teroristicka-balisticka organizacija 
DUI za da mozat da stanat direktori i upravnici na zdravstveni domovi zatoa 
sto vo DUI nemalo kadri. Dodeka ednite se osvestuvaat drugite ni ja 
rasparcuvaat i unistuvaat Makedonija za edno direktorsko mesto. Sakam da ti 
kazam edna vistinska slucka vo Sv. Nikole. Nekoj mlad "Makedonec" sakal da 
otvori ogranok na teroristickata-balisticka organizacija DUI i znaete kako 
zavirsilo toa? Mnogu ednostavno, se sobrale pravi Makedonci i tolku go 
pretepale sto nekolku dena lezese vo bolnica, pa ne mu tekna nego i na drugi 
kako nego da otvara ogranoci na teroristickata organizacija, a ovaa slucka 
ne bese objavena od nieden medium vo Makedonija.

So bratski, komitski i patriotski pozdrav

BORBATA E TESKA NO KJE POBEDIME


FROM: "VMRO-MNM" redacted@vmro-mnm.com
DATE: Tue, 31 Dec 2002 01:47:06  0100
TO: "Aleksandar Xxxxxxxxx" redacted@mt.net.mk
CC: "VMRO-MNM" redacted@vmro-mnm.com
SUBJECT: Re: MAKEDONIJA NA MAKEDONCITE

Zdravo brat Aleksandar
Kako prvo blagodarime za tvoite novo godishni i bozhichni chestitki. Isto 
taka i nie od organizacjata VMRO-MNM ti gji cestitame novo godishnite i 
bozhichnite praznici i so golemi uspesi i napreduvanja kako i so mnogo dobro 
zdravje vo novata 2003 godina.

Patriotskata poraka ti e dosta realna i za toa kje razgovarame po 
praznicite.
Eventualno ako ima nekoi dosta vazhni informacii kje te isvestime i ti ako 
imash nekoi vazhni informacii da ne izvestish.

Isto tak kje razgovarme i za veb sajtot.

So komitski i patriotski pozdravi

Eden za site i site za eden

MAKEDONIJA NA MAKEDONCITE

Makedonski komita



MAKEDONSKI NARODE DA NE DOZVOLIME MLADITE MAKEDONCI DA SE ODNARODAT OD 
SOPSTVENATA MAKEDONSKA DRZAVA!

FROM: Aleksandar Mitreski redacted@yahoo.com
DATE: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 20:46:33 -0800 (PST)
TO: redacted@a1.com.mk, redacted@mt.net.mk, redacted@dnevnik.com.mk, 
redacted@utrinski.com.mk, redacted@mpt.com.mk, redacted@hotmail.com, 
redacted@unitedmacedonians.org, redacted@florina.org, 
redacted@makedonskosonce.com, redacted@vmro-mnm.com, 
redacted@hotmail.com
SUBJECT: DA NE DOZVOLIME MLADITE DA SE ODNARODAT OD SOPSTVENATA DRZAVA!

DA NE DOZVOLIME MLADITE DA SE ODNARODAT OD SOPSTVENATA DRZAVA!

Vo ramki na profesionalizacijata na armiskiot sostav, 
liberalizacija-skratuvanje na voeniot rok na vojnicite vo armijata na 
Republika Makedonija kako i civilnoto sluzenje na voeniot rok, pokrenuvame 
Inicijativa za reguliranje na oddelni odredbi od propisite na Zakonot za 
odbrana kako i od Krivicniot zakon.

Teskata finansiska i ekonomska sostojba vo Republika Makedonija, osobeno vo 
poslednite godini bese povod golem del mladi kadri da pobaraat rabota nadvor 
od granicite na Drzavata.

Golem del od niv, blagodarenie na nivniot kvalitet, dobro se snajdoa so 
rabota, del od niv oformija semejstvo i odluchija trajno da ziveat von 
granicite na R. Makedonija.

Vospostavena regulativa za nesluzenje na voen rok - kruta, rigorozna i 
neelasticna zavrsuva so krivicna presuda i kazna zatvor.

Na toj nacin maladite lica pri doaganje vo poseta na rodnata zemja i
kratkorocna poseta na svoite bliski se izlozeni na stresovi, policija, 
zatvor, a duri se tretiraat i kako kriminalci.

Toa se lica (najgolem del od niv) koi go imaat reseno svojot status vo 
drzavata od koja doagaat,obezbedena egzistencija, trajna rabota, zelen 
karton ili na drug nacin prestoj.

So vakviot tretman (kazni i zatvaranje) mladite najcesto se odlucuvaat da se 
odnarodat od sopstvenata Drzava vo koja se rodile i vo koja zivee nivnoto 
semejstvo. Kaznata zatvor za niv znaci gubenje na redovnata rabota vo 
Drzavata od koja doagaat, kako i nov socijalen slucaj vo Makedonija.

Konkretnata inicijativa e:

LICATA KOI SO IZJAVA VERODOSTOJNA OSTANUVAAT NA RABOTA TRAJNO VON GRANICITE 
NA MAKEDONIJA, DA MOZAT KAZNATA ZA NEOTSLUZUVANJE NA VOENIOT ROK DA BIDE 
ZAMENETA SO PARICNA KAZNA.

Paricnata kazna moze da se opredeli da bide i povisoka, sprema platata na 
profesionalen vojnik, so sto bi se sozdal dopolnitelen izvor na sredstva za 
podiganje na standardot na licata, profesionalni vojnici.

Na toj nacin bi se socuval identitetot na ovie mladi luge, koi ne po svoja 
vina, se nasle nadvor od granicite na drzavata, bi im se ovozmozil normalen 
vlez vo Drzavata, poseta na rodnata zemja i nivnoto semejstvo.

DA NE DOZVOLIME OVIE NASI DECA DA SE ODNARODAT OD SOPSTVENATA DRZAVA!

Onie koi ja poddrzuvaat ovaa inicijativa, ve molime da ja ispratite ovaa 
poraka do slednive email adresi:

redacted@mnr.gov.mk, redacted@finance.gov.mk, redacted@morm.gov.mk, 
redacted@moe.gov.mk, redacted@assembly.gov.mk, redacted@skopje.gov.mk, 
redacted@stat.gov.mk, redacted@finance.gov.mk, redacted@economy.gov.mk, 
redacted@zic.gov.mk, redacted@president.gov.mk, redacted@mn.gov.mk, 
redacted@customs.gov.mk, redacted@a1.com.mk, redacted@a1.com.mk, 
redacted@makedonskosonce.com, redacted@mol.com.mk, redacted@mt.net.mk, 
redacted@mt.net.mk, redacted@mia.com.mk, redacted@mt.net.mk, 
redacted@novamakedonija.com.mk, redacted@mt.net.mk, redacted@mol.com.mk, 
redacted@mol.com.mk, redacted@mol.com.mk, redacted@unet.com.mk, redacted@unet.com.mk, 
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redacted@free-mail.org.mk, redacted@mt.net.mk, redacted@yahoo.com, 
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redacted@sonet.com, redacted@mt.net.mk, redacted@unet.com.mk, redacted@intel.com.mk, 
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redacted@unet.com.mk, redacted@ecopresscenter.org, redacted@yahoo.com, 
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redacted@smmk.org, redacted@mp.com.mk, redacted@bitola.gov.mk, redacted@mt.net.mk, 
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Istotaka ispratete poraka i do predsedatelot na Makedonija

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FROM: "Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet" redacted@vmro-mnm.com
DATE: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 22:11:56 +0200
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<redacted@mt.net.mk>, <redacted@dnevnik.com.mk>, <redacted@utrinski.com.mk>, 
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SUBJECT: Re: DA NE DOZVOLIME MLADITE DA SE ODNARODAT OD SOPSTVENATA DRZAVA!

Vnatresna Makedonska Revolucionerna Organizacija - Makedonija Na Makedoncite 
(VMRO-MNM)
Pretsedatel: Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet

Veb stranica na Makenskata Organizacija VMRO-MNM: http://www.vmro-mnm.com
Kontakti na E-mail adresa: "Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet" redacted@vmro-mnm.com

01 April 2003 g.

Zdravo zivo Aleksandar,

Naj iskreno ti se zablagodaruvam za E-mail porakata vo vrska so (Inicijativa 
za reguliranje na oddelni odredbi od propisite na Zakonot za odbrana kako i 
od Krivicniot zakon).

Aleksandar so del na Inicijativata se soglasuvam i ja podrzavam. No vo nekoi 
raboti mora da se diskutira i da se resat naj golemite problematiki vo vrska 
so nasite zagrozeni mladi Makedoncinja. Kako sto pisuva deka (Golem del od 
niv, blagodarenie na nivniot kvalitet, dobro se snajdoa so rabota, del od 
niv oformija semejstvo i odluchija trajno da ziveat von granicite na R. 
Makedonija).
Aleksandar ovo e golema greska sto se zboruva deka golem del od mladite 
Makedonci dobro se snajdele. Jas ne znam dali ti zivees vo Majka Makedonija 
ili vo srana zemja?

Kako prvo: Na site nas Makedonci ni e jasno i poznato zosto na iljadnici 
nasi mladi Makedoncinja ja napustuvat i vo idnina ke ja napustuvat svojata 
rodna zemja Makedonija. Kako i vo tvojata poraka e spomneto za teskata 
finaciska i ekonomska sostojbi. Toa e eden od naj golemiot problem sto 
nasite mladi Makedoncinja ja napustat nasata ni mila i sakana Majka 
Makedonija. I zaminuvat vo ne demoraktskiot (anti demokratskiot), ne 
solidraniot (anti solidarniot) kako ne realniot (anti realniot) zapaden 
svet. Se razbira deka nekoj od tie Makedoncinja ke imat srekja i ke se 
zaposlat. No nemoj da zboruvas deka imat ili zimat dosta golemi plati, toa e 
samo spekulacija i nevistini so prezentiranje so pozitivni izjavi (podrski) 
kon zapadniot svet. Site Makedonci koj sto ziveat i rabotat vo zapadniot 
svet mnogo dobro znaat deka povise se lazni spekulacii i falbi deka 
zapadniot svet se demokratski, solidarni i realeni opsestva. Ne toa ne e 
taka. Zapadniot svet e postanat dosta golem diktatorski, (racisticki), 
nacisticki i fasisticki rezim (Taka iskreno receno zapadno rasisticko 
opsestvo).
Posto vo Vardarskiot del na Makedonija vlade golema diktatura, mafijaska 
banda, izrodi od Makeodnski rod i siptarska teroristicka i mafijo banditska. 
Taka da site taka nareceni Makedonski mediumi se pod nivna kontrola. A i 
voedno novinarite se stranski i vnatresni plateni agenti i spijuni pa 
rabotat vo prilog na Makedonskite izrodi, predavnicki zverovi-zverski, vo 
prilog na Makedonskite drzavni mafijaski banditi, vo prilog na siptarskite 
ekstremisti, nacisti, fasisti, teroristi i mafijaski banditi, kako vo prilog 
na site drugi golemi neprijateli na Makedonskiot narod i okupatori na 
Makedonskata drzava. Taka da, zatoa taka narecenite Makedonski mediumi gi 
podrzavat i zapadnite zemji deka se bogati, demokratski, solidarni i realni 
zemji. Da zapadnite zemji se mnogo pobogati od kolku drugite zemji na 
svetot, no tie zapadni zemji se bogatat so bogatstvata sto gi plackat od 
site drugi zemji na svetot. Koga Makedonskiot narod bi imal svoi mediumi i 
novinari, jas veruvam i sum ubeden deka vistinata za zapadnata anti 
demokratska diktatura ke se presentira onaka kako sto treba i deka moze da 
se dokazi so fakti deka zapadniot svet ne e demokratski, ne e realen i 
solidarni. Pa zatoa nasite Makedonci mislat deka na zapadot ke dobija odma 
zaposluvanje i plati od 5000 evra. Koga Makedonskiot narod bi imal svoi 
realni i cesni Makedonski mediumi i novinari, za da pocnat da go setat 
celiot zapadni svet i da pocnat da snimat i da pravat intervju so strancite. 
A jas veruvam i sum ubeden deka 99,99% od strancite ke ja kazat vistinata 
deka krajno se custvuvat deka se diskriminirani i deka ovde 100% covekovite 
prava na strancite im se ponisteni, se razbira za golemite razacaruvanje na 
strancite od zapadnite racisticki, nacisticki, fasisticki, diskriminatorski 
i mafijo banditskite opsestva.

Kako vtoro: Strancite od zemjite koj sto se nadvor od zapadnite granici se 
diskriminirat i se tretirat kako treta klasa posle zivotnite. Stranicite vo 
zapadniot svet morat da gi rabotat naj teskite i na gnasnite raboti i toa da 
rabotat i da zavrsuvat rabota kolku trojca nivni zapdni edno stavno nivni 
rasi zolti, crveni i plavi glavi. A dokolku se pojvi crna glava, temno ili 
cno lice i so ime i prezime od zemjite nadvor od zapadnite granici 
altomatski mu se zgrozuva zivotot ili se iskoristuva kako da e eden konj ili 
bik za oranje.
Jas ke dodadam i nekoi mnogo vazni i golemi diskriminacii kon strancite od 
zemjite koj sto se nadvor od zapadnite granici.
Strancite otvoreno se diskriminriat na rabotni mesta, koj sto zimat so 50% a 
vo nekoi firmi so 60% pomali plati od kolku nivnite gragjani. Strancite 
otvoreno se diskriminirat vo zavodi za zaposluvanje, koj sto na 75% stranci 
ne im se dava rabota, odnosno rabotno mesto. Strancite se diskriminrat i od 
sindikatite. Strancite se diskriminirat vo zdrastvenite centri (kaj 
zabolemarite), ne dobivat lekarska (zabolekarska) pomos, skoro site stranci 
koj sto ke pobarat zdraztvena (zabolekarska) pomos, nego dobivat medicini 
koj sto ne se za upotreba za negovata bolest i dosta skapi medicini i se 
molzat samo so pari. A kaj zabolekratite isto taka ke te molzat so pari i ke 
ti gi opropastat zabite za da bides nesposoben za da si jades kako sto 
treba. Masovno na stranici so zdrastvenite sostojbi im se skrateni nivnite 
zivoti, a i dosta od niv umirat posto ne dobivat lekarska pomos ili so 
pogesni medicini koj sto im gi davat anti stranskite lekari. Za da stranec 
se pozali ili podnese prijava ili da saka ta tuzi za pogresno lekuvanje, 
diskriminiranje pa i za ubistvo od strana na anti stranskite lekari. E 
nevozmozno da dobies advokat ili javni ovinitel za da te zastiti i pomogni 
so gnasnite diskriminacii i zlocinskite ubistva kon diskriminatorite i 
ubicite. Stranecot e sekogas vinoven a oni se sekogas vo pravo i si ja 
vrsele nivnata rabota taka kako treba.
Strancite se diskriminirat vo bankite, ako stranec otide vo banka za da 
pobara kredit za da otvori firma e nevozmozno da dobies, kako i zdrugi 
pobaruvanja na paricni krediti e strogo zagrozen i diskriminiran stranecot.
Eve jas ke ti kazam za eden slucaj kako se kradat pari od strancite. Ako 
stranec imal paricni kredit ili zel kila na kredit ili imal mala firma i 
zaglavil so bankrot. Toj stranec sto e dolzen da gi vrakja tie, odnosno da 
gi plakja tie pari, stranecot ke mora da plakja 30-40% od svojot mesecen ili 
godisen prihod. Sto sakam so toa da ti kazam. Stranecot ako ilmal mala 
firma, a firmata ne mu ide onaka kako sto treba i e prinuden da ide vo 
bankrot i ostanuva so mnogo slabi finciski problemi, koj sto ostanuva i 
dolzen na drzavata. Stranecot e dolzen, odnosko kako i sekoj eden gragjanin 
e dolzen da si gi vrakja-plakja dolgovite tamo kade sto e dolzen, i za toa i 
jas se soglasuvam. No jas ne se soglasuvam sto stranecot mora da plakja cel 
zivot 10 000 iljadi evra so odbivanje na 30-40% od negoviot mesecen ili 
godisen prihod. Ako stranecot e zaglaven so mal gredit od 5000 - 10 000 
ilijadi evra ne mora da znaci deka stranecot treba cel zivot da plakja eden 
mal kredit od 10 000 evra, taka da tie 10 000 iljadi evra za eden stranec 
sto e vo 30-40 godisna vozrast a mozno e da zivee do 70-80 godini, taka da 
toj straec svojot dolg go preplatuva so nekolku stotina ilijadi evra. E za 
ovakvi diskriminaci i pljacki od zapadnite mafijo banditski opsestva e 
normalno i tie ne se smatrat deka se pljackasi i nema kade da strancite da 
se pozalat site vrati na strancite im se zatvoreni. Za ova tema jas imam 
eden slucaj koj sto ima eden stranec golemi problemi so rasistickoto i 
mafijo banditskoto opsestvo vo Poranesna Skandinavska Provincija 
Svedska-FSPOS. Kolku sto jas doznav, odnosno mi kaza na kratko stranecot. 
Deka imal krediti na cetiri mesta, kreditite se suma od 90 000 iljadi skr. 
Kreditie mu bile pozajmeni vo 1987 godina. A pocnal da gi isplakja mesecno 
od 1988 godina pa do den dens gi plakja, i vo idnina ke gi plakja. Na toj 
stranec mu se odzimalo sekoj mesec 2500 do 2800 skr mesecno i sekoja godina 
koj sto plakjal povise pores (posto moze da se sluci pores da ti odbivat 
povise od kolku sto e po zakonot, no na kraj godinata koga se racuna 
plateniot pores i ako si platil povise pores normalno deka treba da ti se 
vrati nazat porezot sto go odbile). A toj naknadni pores sto mu se odbival 
od institucijata za porezi go dobiva ednas na godinata vo edena suma, toa e 
za site gragjani ist zakon. No sto i da e toj stranec trebal da dobiva 
povratok na pores vo edna suma izmegju 6000 do 11000 skr sekoja godna. Taka 
da tie pari on ne gi dobival na raka ili na negova bankovna smetka nego mu 
se odzimale za kreditite. Zamislite moi Makedonci tuka ne treba da bides 
golem matematicar za da izracunas koklu toj stranec platil za ovie godini, 
da receme od 1988 godina pa do denes. Pazite i ne e sve toa. Stranecot bil 
dolzen 90 000 iljadi skr, taka da dolgovite nikako da mu se smalat, a 
deneska negoviot dolg bil skoro 300 000 iljadi skr. E sega moi Makedonci 
kazete mi vie mene dali ovo ne e ogromna mafijaska banditska pljacka, kade 
odele i koj gi kradel negovite stotian iljadi skr. Znaci stranecot i 60% da 
plakja od svojot mesecen, odnosno godisen prihod nikogas nemose da gi 
isplati tie 90 000 iljadi skr. A zamislite ovo stranecot e 40 godisna 
vozrast. Ako toj stranec zivee do 70-80 godini, kolkava ke bide sumata i 
kolku ke bide dolzen na racistickoto mafijaskoto banditsko opsestvo. Za 
nekoku dena jas treba da gi dobijam foto kopiite od stranecot i da vidime 
kako se molzat i pljackat pari od strancite. Posto ovde vo Svedska-FSPOS 
SEKOJ DNEVNO SE IZJAVUVA I PISUVA VO NIVNITE MEDIUMI SO GOLEMI LAGJI I 
SPEKULACII DEKA STRANCITE SE GOLEMI KRIMINALCI I NE RABOTNICI.

Kako treto: Sto se raboti za kriminalnite zakoni protiv nasite mladi 
Makedoncinja sto ja napustale svojata rodna zemja i ne sakat da go odsluzat 
redovniot voeni rok. Jas kako tatko, koga bi imal sin i e zdrav i sposoben 
za da odsluzi voeniot redoven rok. Nikogas ne bi dozvolil mojot sin da sluzi 
voeni rok vo edna diktatorska drzava kade sto vladeat Makedonski izrodi, 
predavnicki zverovi-zverski, psihopati, pedofili, sizofrenicari i Makedonski 
mafijaski banditi. Kako i so vledenjeto od azijatskoto gnasno pleme 
siptarski ekstremisti, nacisti, fasisti, teroristi, pedofili, psihopati, 
sizofrenicari i mafijaski banditi. I se razbira so mesanje vo vnatresnosta 
na Makedonskata drzava od zapadnite diktatori, nacisti, fasisti, varvari, 
fanatici, teroristi, agresori, provokatori, psihopati, sizofrenicari, 
pedofili i mafijaski banditi.
Site nie Makedonci znaeme deka Makedonskiot narod nema svoja Makedonska 
Narodna Armija - MNA. Nego imame samo edna anti makedonska lesno naoruzana 
institucija ili podobro receno anti makedonska lesno naoruzana unistuvacka 
organizacija "arm"-ventilator. Koj sto e pod kontrola i komanda nad 
Makedonskite izrodi, predavnicki zverovi-zverski, nad Makedonskite Mafijaski 
banditi, pedofili, psihopati i sizofrenicari. Kako i pod kontrola i pod 
komanda nad zapadnite diktatori, nacisti, fasisti, varvari, fanatici, 
teroristi, agresori, provokatori, psihopati, sizofrenicari, pedofili i 
mafijaski banditi. Pa i pod kontrola i komanda nad azijatskoto gnasno pleme 
siptarski ekstremisti, nacisti, fasisti, teroristi, pedofili, psihopati, 
sizofrenicari i mafijaski banditi.
Jas se gordeam so sekoj mlad Makedonec sto ne saka da sluzi voeni rok vo 
edna diktatroska i mafijo banditska drzava kako sto e vo Vardarskiot del na 
Makedonija.
Mnogo mladi Makedonski momcinja gi izgubija svoite zivoti a i mnogo od niv 
gi ima i 100% invalidi. Za kogo tie mladi Makedoncinja da sluzat voeni rok i 
za civa odbrana i zastita. Se razbira za odbrana i zastita na licnite 
interesi i licni zbogatuvanjea na Makedonskite izrodi, predavnicki zverovi 
zverski i na Makedonskite mafijaski banditi, pa i za stranskite licni 
interesi.
Nasite mladi Makedoncinja pa i postarite Makedonski borci sto se prijavija 
kako dobrovolci vo redovite na anti makedoskite i banditskite paravoeni 
grupi i taka receno vo anti makedonski "drzavni voeni strukturi" se borea i 
gi branea i zastituvaa interesite na Makedonskite diktatori, izrodi, 
predavnicki zverovi-zverski i mafijaski baditi. Kako i interesite na 
interesite na stranskite diktatori, nacisti, fasisti, varvari, fanatici, 
agresori, pedofili, psihopati, sizofrenicari i mafijaski banditi. Pa i za 
interesite na azijatskoto gnasno siptarsko ekstremisticko, nacisticko, 
fasisticko, teroristicko, pedofilsko, psihopatsko, sizofrenicarsko i 
mafijasko banditsko pleme.

Kako cetvrto: Posto Vardarskiot del na Makedonija e pod totalna okupacija i 
rpbstvo. A i so anti makeodnskite voeni strukturi koj sto se pod kontrola i 
pod komanda nad nadvoresnite i vnatresnite neprijateli, zverovi, zlocinci, 
tirani i dusmani. Sekoj Makedonec ima pravo da odbie na sluzenje voeni rok 
vo tie stranski i anti makedonski voeni strukturi. Istoto vazi i za 
povozrasni Makedonci koj sto veke imat osluzeno voeni rok i odbivat da bidat 
rezervisti vo stranskite i vnatresnite anti makedonskite voeni, odnosno 
unistuvacki teroristicki i mafijo banditski struktuti. Sekoj Makedonec koj 
se custvuva kako cesen, veren, realen i gord Makedonec treba i dolzen e da 
gi izbegne pokanite i da gi odbie baranjata na stranskite i vnatresnite 
zverovi, zlocinci, dusmani i tirani. Dali nasite mladi pa i postari 
Makedonci treba da bidat vo redovite na stranski i vnatresni anti makedonski 
voeni strukturi za da se ranat i da se trujat so manipolirani prehrabeni 
produkti. Dali nasite Makedonci treba da odat vo drugi zemji i da se borat 
za interesite na amerikancite, odnosno za interesite na celiot zapadniot 
svet. Koj sto se planira da se odvojat nekolku stotina nasi mladi Makedonci 
i da se predadat vo redovite na amerikanskite i angliskite varvarski voeni 
redovi za vo borba (za vo vojna) vo irak.
Nie Makedoncite morame i dolzni sme za da gi zastituvame Makedonskite 
nacionalni i drzavni interesi, isto tak dolzni sme da ja branime nasata mila 
i sakana tatkovina Makedonija. No za da se borime za odbrana na Majka 
Makedonija od nadvoresnite i vnatresnite, zverovi, zlocinci, unistuvaci, 
tirani i dusmani. Ke treba da se organizirame vo edinstvenata Makeodnska 
nacionalna, revolucionerna, komitska i patriotska organizacija VMRO-MNM 
(Makedonija Na Makedoncite).

Kako peto: Gledame kako zapadnite diktatori, nacisti, fasisti, varvari, 
fanatici, teroristi, agresori, provokatori, psihopati, sizofrenicari, 
pedofili i mafijaski banditi. Si igrat igracka so nasiot Makedonski narod. 
Kako go lazat na Makedonskiot narod, deka Makedonija ke bide clenka na 
zapadnite diktatorski, nacisticki, fasisticki, varvarski, agresorski, 
provokatorski, pedofilski, psihopatski, sizofrenicarski, teroristicki i 
mafijo banditskite organizacii eu i nato. Kako si zamisluva i kako si sonuva 
makedonskiot narod deka ke bidete bogati i ke ziveete kapetalisticki zivot. 
Ne moi Makedonci Vardarskiot del na Makedonija ke se podeli. Zapadnite, 
sosednite i vnatresnite zverovi, zlocinci, dusmanni, tirani i unistuvaci se 
imaat dogovoreno da Vardarskiot del na Makedonija naj verovatno da bide 
poklonet na azijatskoto gnasno, ekstremisticko, nacisticko, fasisticko, 
teroristicko, pedofilsko, psihopatsko, sizofrenicarsko i mafijasko banditsko 
siptarsko-balisticko pleme za golema albanija na Makedonskiot balkan.
Makedonskiot narod dali seuste ne svakja deka zapadnite neprijateli na 
Makedonskiot narod ne se nasi prijateli ili sojuznici, nego ni se golemi 
neprijateli i oni od sekoga vo istorijata ni bile golemi neprijateli. Eve 
gledate kako si se pogravat so Makedonskiot narod. Vcera Silite na 
"Evropskata unija ja prezemaa od Severnoatlantskata alijansa misijata - nato 
vo Makedonija". A sto znaci toa, deka sega ke bide mir i stabilnost vo 
Vardarskiot del na Makedonija i za nekolku meseci Makedonskiot narod ke 
zivee bogato kapetalisticki i luksuzni zivot. Za nekolku dena site siptarski 
ekstremisti, nacisti, fasisti, pedofili, psihopati, sizofrenicari, teroristi 
i mafijaski banditi sto imat praveno zverski zlostorstva nad Makedonskiot 
narod "ke bidat apseni i liseni od sloboda i ke gi odnesat vo Haskiot sud i 
ke se sudat kako ratni zlocinci". Zar tie nasi nadvoresni i vnatresni 
zverovi, zlocinci, dusmani i unistuvaci, za nekolku dena ke bidat site nasi 
brakja i sestri Makedonki i Makeodnci vrateni vo svoite domovi koj sto bea 
preterani od svoite domovi i site ceda na Majka Makedonija sto bea 
kidnapirani i ke si dojdat doma zdravi i zivi. Moi Makedonci toj film nema 
da go gledame nego ke si cekame, cekame, cekame i cekame, ke si se nadevame 
i ke si se nadevame deka site nasi brakja i sestri Makedonki i Makedonci ke 
bidat vrateni vo svoite domovi i site ceda na Majka Makeodnija sto bea 
kidnapriani ke se vrata zivi i zdravi.

Kako sesto: Predlogot za paricna kazna mesto zatvorna kazna. Tpa e isto 
golem kriminal. Kako sto objasniv pogore. A i pak ke recam deka tie gnasni i 
kriminalni zakoni od Makedonskite izrodi, predavnicki zverovi-zverski i 
Makedonskite mafijaski banditi neka si gi kaznuvat nivnite deca a ne 
dobrite, vernite, cesnite, realnite i gordite Makedoncinja. Sto mislat tie 
strani platenici, agenti i spijuni deka mladote Makedoncinja ke im bidat 
slugi i robovi na nasite naj golemi neprijateli i okupatori. Dali na ovie 
Makedonski banditi ne im se dovolno tie masivni miljoni evra ili dolari sto 
gi dobivat od nadvoresnite neprijateli i okupatori. Pa isto taka 
zbogatuvanje od Makedonskiot narod i od budzetot na Vardarskiot del Na 
Makedonija, pa i uste sakat da se bogatat i od mladite Makedoncinja koj sto 
so glema pot i trud gi zarabotuvat tie mali pari. Sto mislat ovie 
Makedonskite izrodi, predavnicki zverovi-zverski i Makedonski mafijaski 
banditi deka tie mladi Makedoncinja zarabotuvat vo zapadniot svet iljadnici 
na evra ili dolari.

Kako sedmo: Vo ova moe pismo, ke si dozvolam da iskoristam da im ispratam 
edna poraka do mladite Makedoncinja do idninata na Majka Makeodníja i do 
idninata na idnite Makedonski genracii. Edna porka do Makeodnskite roditeli 
i edna poraka do site vozrasni Makeodnci koj sto se vo redovite na 
stranskite i vnatersnite anti makedonski paravoeni teroristicki i mafijaski 
"voeni" strukturi.

Mladi Makedoncinja i ceda na Majka Makeodnija i idnino na Majka Makedonija. 
Ovo sto vie go rabotite, sto ste ja napustile Majka Makedonija zaradi 
ekonomska i socijalna katastrofa, kako i za da ne odite za osluzuvanje na 
veni rok vo anti makedonskata "arm"-ventilator. Jas ve potpolno razbiram i 
se soglasuvam so vasite postapuvanja. I ja imate vo celosno mojata podrska. 
Moe mislenje do vas e pozitivno i prodolzete so vasite planirani planovo. No 
ostanete si verni, cesni, realni i gordi Makeodnci. Ne ste vie vinovni sto 
ne sakata da odite da sluzite voeni rok vo anti makedonska "arm"-ventilator 
i ne ste vie vinovni sto ste ja napustile Majka Makedonija i sto ste morate 
da barate podobar ekonmski i socijani zivot. Se znae koj se naj golemite 
vinovnici Makeodnskite izrodi, predavnicki zverovi-zverski i Makedonskite 
drzavni mafijaski banditi i zapadnite neprijateli i okupatori.

Makeodnski roditeli. Vi isprakjam seriozna poraka da ne gi pustate vasite 
deca idninata na Majka Makedonija da odat i da sluzat voeni rok vo anti 
makedonski teroristicki i unistuvacki strukturi. Ako vie ne gi pustite 
vasite deca da odat vo tie anti makedonski teroristicki, mafijo banditski i 
unistuvacki strukturi oni ke bidat mnogo oslabeni i nemokni za da ja 
unistuvat nasata mila i sakana tatkovina Makedonija i da go unistuvat 
Makedonskiot identitet kako i so unistuvanje na Makedonskata istorija, 
kutura i tradicii.

Seriozna komitska i patriotska poraka do site Makedonci koj sto se vo 
redovite na anti makedonskite teroristicki, mafijo manditski i unistuvacki 
strukturi. Pod itno da gi napustite tie anti makedonski teroristicki, mafijo 
banditski i unistuvacki strukturi. I so toa vie ke gi oslabite stranskite i 
vnatresnite zverski, zlocinski, varvarski, teroristicki, mafijo banditski i 
dusmanski neprijateli.
Ako skata da i pomognete na Majka Makeodnija i na Makedonskiot narod, bidete 
vo redovite na VNATRESNA MAKEDONSKA REVOLUCIONERNA ORGANIZACIJA - MAKEDONIJA 
NA MAKEDONCITE (VMRO-MNM). Ako sakate i ako ste spremni da se borite za 
obedinuvanje na nasata mila i sakana tatkovina Makedonija i za da go 
oslobodime i spasime celiot Makedonski narod od ovo prokleto robstvo. Togas 
odma prijavuvajte se vo Organizacijata VMRO-MNM i da seriozno se zapocne so 
rabota, so borbi, so akcii i operacii za Makedonsko nacionalno VOSTANIE. Toa 
isto vazi i za site drugi Makedonci koj sto ne se vo niedna anti makedonska 
partija ili organizacija.

Aleksandar jas ne znam kolku ti ja podrzavas ova Inicijativa. No sepka jas 
mislam deka vo celosno ja podrzavas. I jas mislam deka ti so toa im davas 
podrska i na stranskite i na vnatresnite zverski, zlocinci, varvari, 
teroristi, mafijaski banditi i unistuvaci na nasata ni mila i sakana Majka 
Makedonija i za unistuvanje na Makedonkiot identitet. Jas ne bi sakal da me 
svatis pogresno. Posto vakvi analizi, prepiski, predlozi inicijativi im idat 
vo korist na nasite golemi neprijateli i okupatori i na Makedonskite izrodi, 
predavnicki zverovi-zverski i Makedonskite mafijaski banditi.
Nie dobrite, cesnite, realnite, vernite i gordite Makedonci ne treba da 
mislime za zgolemuvanje na platite, koj sto vo porakata e nacvedeno za nekoi 
si "profesionalni vojnici". Ti i site Makedonci znaeme deka Majka Makedonija 
i Makedonskiot narod nemat svoi profesionalni vojnici ili borci. Da gi ima 
no tie se vo redovite na stranskite i vnatresnite anti makedonskite 
teroristicki, mafijo banditski i unistuvacki strukturi. Tie Makedonski 
profesionalni vojnici se za zastita na licni interesi na stranskite i 
vnatresnite neprijateli i bandi. Pa i uste da im se zgolemuvat platite. 
Zosto sto storija tie za Makedonskata drzava i za Makedonskiot narod, nisto 
ama apsolutno nisto. Na Makedonskiot narod i na Majka Makedonija ne im se 
potrebni plateni vojnici-borci. Platen vojnik-borec e samo za pari a ne za 
da ja brani Majka Makedonija i da go zastituva svojot sopstven Makedonski 
narod.........

SO MAKEDONSKI BRATSKI, KOMITSKI I PATRIOTSKI POZDRAVI.

P.S. Ovaj moj odgovor, odnosno mojata reakcija ja pisuvam tocno na denot koj 
sto e za lazenje, no vie moi brakja i sestri Makedonki i Makedonci ne treba 
da ja gledate datata ili denot 1 april. Nego prifatete gi i podrzete gi 
moite analizi i poraki.

VECNO DA ZIVEE MAKEDONSKATA ZEMJA!

VECNO DA ZIVEE MAKEDONSKIOT NAROD!

GOSPOD DA JA BLAGOSLOVI NASATA ZEMJA MAKEDONIJA I GOSPOD DA GO BLAGOSLOVI 
NASIOT MAKEDONSKI NAROD!

SMRT ZA SIPTARISKITE-BALISTI, TERORISTI I FASISTI!

SMRT ZA SITE ZAPADNI OKUPATORSKI CIZMARI, NACISTI, FASISTI, VARVARI, 
TERORISTI, BIOKRATI I FANATICI VO NASATA MILA I SAKANA TATKOVINA MAKEDONIJA!

SMRT ZA IZRODITE MAKEDONSKI PREDAVNICKI ZVEROVI-ZVERSKI !

SLOBODA ILI SMRT ZA MAKEDONSKATA DRZAVA I ZA MAKEDONSKIOT NAROD !

EDEN ZA SITE I SITE ZA EDEN!

TOA E PORAKATA OD MAKEDONSKIOT KOMITA I PATRIOT TREPET I OD SITE HRABRI 
MAKEDONSKI KOMITI, PATRIOTI I BORCI......

VECNO DA ZIVEE MAKEDONSKATA REVOLUCIONERNA ORGANIZACIJA VMRO-MNM (MAKEDONIJA 
NA MAKEDONCITE)!

JAS SUM MAKEDONEC A NE FYROMEC!

NIE SME MAKEDONCI A NE FYROMCI!

MAKEDONIJA NA MAKEDONCITE!

Pretsedatel Na Makedonskata Organizacija VMRO-MNM
Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet


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"Krajno razocaran Makedonski patriot!!!"

FROM: "Nxxxxxx" <redacted@chello.at>
DATE: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 18:17:44 0100
TO: "Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet <redacted@vmro-mnm.com>
SUBJECT: MAKEDONSKI PATRIOT

NAJPRVIN EDEN GOLEM POZDRAV DO VAS, I BOG NEKA NI BIDE NAPOMOS.

SAKAM DA VE INFORMIRAM DEKA SE SPREMA NESTO STRASNO KOGA STANUVA ZBOR ZA 
NASATA TATKOVINA MAKEDONIJA.

KE NAVEDAM NEKOLKU FAKTI KAKO UVERTIRA NA MOJATA INFORMACIJA: SDSM 
(NAJGOLEMOTO ZLO NA MAKEDONIJA VO NIVNATA KUMUNISTICKA KUJNA PRIPREMA USTE 
EDNO VELEPREDAVSTVO NA MAKEDONSKIOT NAROD I NASATA MAKEDONIJA)

-SLEDNITE FAKTI SE OD OSAMOSTOJUVANJETO NA MAKEDONIJA OD 1990 GOD.

-BEJA PROTIV SAMOSTOJNA I NEZAVISNA MAKEDONSKA DRZAVA

-GO PROMENIJA NASETO SESNAESETZRACNO ZNAME I NI DONESOA VENTILATOR GO 
PROMENIJA USTAVNOTO IME NA R. MAKEDONIJA VO BJRM (POSLEDICITE VEKE NI SE 
POZNATI)

-UNISTIJA CELOKUPNATA EKONOMIJA (POSLEDICITE NI SE POZNATI, ILJADNICI LUGE 
OSTANAA NA ULICA BEZ RABOTA I ZIVOTNA EGZISTENCIJA)

-NA GOLEMA VRATA NI JA DONESO SIVATA EKONOMIJA, KORUPCIJATA, REKETARSTVOTO, 
DROGATA, PROSTITUCIJATA I.T.N.

-OKTOPOD AKO SE SEKAVATE (TAT, LAVCI, ALFA S, FERSPED, LAMBROS, ASIBA, 
JUGOHROM, I.T.N

-IZDADENITE 250.000 DRZAVJANSTVA NA ALBANCI OD KOSOVO PO VEROISPOVED 
(MUSLIMANI)

-KAKO POSLEDICA NA OVA ILJADNICI MAKEDONCI JA NAPUSTIJA MAKEDONIJA I ZAMINAA 
NIZ SVETOT NADEVAJKI SE ZA PODOBAR ZIVOT.

-ZA STO STANUVA ZBOR: NA POVIDOK E USTE EDNO VELEPREDAVSTVO OD STRANA NA 
SDSM! IMENO IMAM SOZNANIJA DEKA POVTORNO I TAKA PROMENETOTO USTAVNO IME NA 
R. MAKEDONIJA POVTORNO SAKAAT DA GO PROMENAT, NO NE VO USTAVNOTO IME 
(REPUBLIKA MAKEDONIJA) NEGO VO SOSEMA DRUGO IME. VO IGRA SE NEKOLKU 
VARIJANTI!

-SO NASILNATA PROMENA NA USTAVOT OD STRANA NA SIPTARSKITE KACACI, I 
DOAGAJNETO NA VLAST SITUACIJATA E MNOGU LOSA.

-VO TEK SE I PREGOVORI I ZA NOVA (HIMNA) KAKO USLOV POSTAVEN OD SIPTARSKITE 
KACACI.

-PRODOLZUVA TRENDOT NA UNISTUVANJE NA MAKEDONSKOTO KULTURNO- ISTORISKO 
NASLEDSTVO.

-RAZNORAZNI BELOSVETSKI POLITICARI KOI DOAGAAT VO MAKEDONIJA SE POLNI VO 
USTATA SO: IMPLEMENTACIJA NA OHRIDSKIJOT DOGOVOR.

-POVTORNO NEKOJ NI KUMUVA I ZA PASAPORTITE.

-NEMA TUKA DA GI POSTEDAM I VMRO-DPMNE KAKO POTPISNICI NA STRAMNIOT OHRIDSKI 
DOGOVOR, I KRIMINALOT KOJ GO NAPRAVIJA NEKOI VIDNI CLENOVI OD OVAA PARTIJA I 
GO OSKVERNAVIJA SVETOTO IME (VMRO). IM PREPORACUVAM POD HITNO DA GI ISCISTAT 
REDOVITE OD ARAMIITE, DA SE REKONSTRUIRAAT I DA SE VRATAT NA PROGRAMATA I 
STATUTOT OD 1990 GOD.

-ISTO TAKA NEMA DA GI POSTEDAM NI INTELEKTUALCITE OD MAKEDONIJA I NADVOR OD 
MAKEDONIJA (SO ISKLUCOK NA ODREDENI INTELEKTUALCI), KOI VO OVIE TESKI 
MOMENTI TREBA DA REAGIRAAT, ZATOA STO TOA IM E ODGOVORNOST (AKO VOOPSTO 
ZNAAT STO ZNACI OVOJ ZBOR).

-INAKU STO SE ODNESUVA DO IMETO NA MAKEDONIJA, POVTORNO IMAAT ZAMESANO PRSTI 
GRCKITE FANATICI, I NEKOI SVETSKI LIDERI.

-JASNO E DEKA AKO SE PRIFATI SETO OVA NA MAKEDONIJA POSLE IZVESEN PERIOD I 
SLEDI RASPAD. (POSLEDICITE SE POZNATI).

PZDRAV OD: M A K E D O N S K I  P A T R I O T


FROM: "Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet" <redacted@vmro-mnm.com>
DATE: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 23:02:06 0100
TO: "Nxxxxxx" <redacted@chello.at>
CC: "Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet" <redacted@vmro-mnm.com>
SUBJECT: Re: MAKEDONSKI PATRIOT

Vnatresna Makedonska Revolucionerna Organizacija - Makedonija Na Makedoncite 
(VMRO-MNM)
Pretsedatel: Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet

Web sajt na VMRO-MNM: www.vmro-mnm.com
Kontakt na E-mail: TREPET redacted@vmro-mnm.com

04 Fevruari 2003 g.

Zdravo zivo Makedonski patriot,

Mnogo ti se zablagodaruvam za patriotskata poraka i dosta si razocaran!

Da ti kazam i toa naj iskreno. Za site tvoi informacii (fakti), mi e mnogo 
dobro poznato i ne treba da ti gi analiziram od fakt do falt. No sepak kje 
ti dadam nekolku moi analizi. Za sve ovo sto ti mi pisuvas , jas mnogo pati 
go imam napisano i toa pred nekolku godini.

Sto se raboti za velepredavstvoto od strana na Makedonskite izrodi, 
predavnicki zverovi-zverski, anti makedoncite od makedonski rod, 
srbokomunistickata i siptaroteroristickata i mafijo banditskata teroristicka 
organizacija "sdsm"-sizofrenicarska a i azijatsko mongolskata tatarskata 
"probugarskata" i siptaroteroristickata i mafijo banditskata organizacija 
"dpmne"-sizofrenicarska. Si napravija kako sto nim i odgovara a i kako sto 
im odgovara i na nasite okupatori i na zapadniot nacisticki, fasisticki, 
varvarski, teroristicki i mafijo banditski svet.

Site nie Makedonci znaeme deka kukavicki i zverski ni go smenija ustavnoto 
ime na Makedonskata drzava, kukavicki i zverski ni go smenija Makedonskoto 
nacionalno i drzavni zname SESNAESETZRACNOTO SONCE OD MAKEDONSKIOT KUTLES i 
ni go namestija prokletiot i satanskiot znak ventilator. Site nie znaeme 
deka site Makedonski firmi i fabriki gi prodadoa za mali pari na stranite 
biokratski mafijaski banditi. Isto taka Makedonskiot narod dobro znae deka 
ogromnoto bogatstvo na Makedonskata drzava i na Makedonskiot narod se 
pljacka sekoj dnevno.

A sto se raboti odnosno sto se sprema da se izmeni imeto "fyrom" so nekoe 
drugo ime, toa ne treba da ne cudi niti pak da bideme iznenadeni. 
Azijatskoto arapskoto i divo karpetinskioto pleme (po naj novo narecena 
"grcka" i nareceni "grci"). Tie se obedineti i edinstveni, nivnata 
fasisticka, teroristicka i banditska vlast ne dozvoluvat da nie Makedonskte 
si imame svoja drzava i da sme kako Makedonska nacija. A za sve toa sto 
atinjanite ni go pravat, sme naj golemite vinovnici nie tokmu nie samite 
Makedonci. Dali na ovaj svet postoi takov naive i saspan narod kako sto sme 
nie Makedoncite. Samiot Makeodnski narod si dozvoli da mu go smenat 
ustavnoto ime na sopstvenata Makedonska drzava. Samiot Makedonski narod si 
dozvoli da mu go smenat i znamet i da mu namestat ventilator. Ne moze nasiot 
Makedonski narod da mi kaze deka "vlasta" go stori toa, da tie go storija 
velepredavstvoto a Makedonskiot narod ne trebase da kjuti, da spie i da go 
prifati "fyrom" i ventilatorot. Makedonskiot narod ne treba da dozvoli da 
seuste nasite teritorii da se pod okupacija.

I toa da go kazam Makedonskiot narod go prifati i go pocituva prokletiot 
unistuvacki ramkovni dogovor, so unistivanje na ustavot na Makedonskata 
drzava. Taka da Makedonskiot narod ke prifati i ke gi pocituva izmentie na 
Makedonskata nacionalna i drzavna HIMNA. I stavanie na pasosite azijatsko 
albanski jazik i so nivni fasisticki i teroristicki orlovi glavi kako 
simbol.

Ne e seto toa sto go spomnuvame, ima mnogo drugi katastrovi sto ke iskocat 
vo naj skoro vreme.
Od koga ke se izmisli nekoe gnasno ime na Makedonskata drzava, od koga ke se 
smeni MAKEDONSKATA HIMNA so albansko-fyrom ili drugo isto taka od koga se 
stavat azijatsko albanski jazik i orlovite na Makedonskite pasosi i site 
drugi dokmuenti, pa ke se stavi odnosno ke se zakcat orvovite glavi na zidot 
vo anti makedonskoto teroristicko i mafijo banditskoto 
"sobranie"-ventilator. Pota doagja druga katastrofa. Vo site osnovni skoli, 
vo site sredni skoli i unevirziteti ke morat site Makedonci da ucat 
albansko-fyrom jazik isto kako sto nie bevme vo bivsa komunisticka 
jugoslavija srpsko-hrvatski, a po moe mislenje ke bide samo na azijatsko 
albanski jazik, posto Makeodnskiot narod vo Vardarskiot del na Makedonija e 
pod tiranska okupacija so golema podrsaka od zapadniot svet. A i toa da go 
kazam. Posto se vodat strogo tajni diskusii so "sdsm"sizofrenicarite i 
"dpmne"sizofrenicarite, se razbira vo prisustvo na novo dojdenite 
karpetinski gadni pleminja na Makedonskiot balkan i vo prisustvo na 
zapadnite nacisti, fasisti, varvari, fanatici, teroristi i mafijaski 
banditi, od koga ke se razoruzat anti makedonskata "arm"-ventilator, anti 
makedonskata "mvr"-ventilator i anti makedonskite paravoeni grupi "lavovite, 
skorpionite, tigrite i volcite". Posto samite Makedonci gledat i citat kako 
se rasformirat anti makedonskite odnosno taka narecenite makedonski 
paravoeni grupi "lavovite, tigrite, skorpionite i volcite". Znam deka ovie 
nivnite komandanti i sefofi od "sdsm"sizofrenicarite i 
"dpmne"sizofrenicarite isto taka tajno se imat dogovoreno za da apsat 
Makedonski cesni, verni, realni patrioti i borci koj sto se prijavile kako 
dobrovolci vo redovite na nivnite izmisleni paravoeni organizacii, pa i vo 
"arm"-ventilator i vo "mvr"-ventilator i da gi zatvarat vo zatvorite koj sto 
tie gi kontrolirat. Od koga toa ke gi pozatvarat cesnite, vernite i realnite 
Makedonski patrioti i borci i od koga ke gi razoruzat anti makedonskata 
"arm"-ventilator i "mvr"-vetilator e toagas Vardarskiot del na Makedonija 
kje bide podelen dali na dva dela ili na tri dela za toa uste ne sum sigiren 
no naj verovatno ke bide podelen na dva dela za golema "albanija" i za 
golema "bugarija".

Moj brate Makedonski patriot, jas i Organizacijata VMRO-MNM imame dosta 
golemi problemi sto nasite Makedonski komiti i patrioti sto se vo kontakt so 
nas, mnogo brgu se otkrivat od stranite tajni sluzbi a i od tajnite sluzbi 
od Makedonskite izrodi, predavnicki zverovi-zverski. Zosto ti go velam toa, 
zatoa sto poveketo nasite kontakti se preko internet i zatoa mnogo lesno se 
otkrivat ispratenite E-mail adresi i nasite odgovori........
So Makedonski bratski, komitski i patriotski pozdravi.

VECNO DA ZIVEE MAKEDONSKATA ZEMJA!

VECNO DA ZIVEE MAKEDONSKIOT NAROD!

GOSPOD DA JA BLAGOSLOVI NASATA ZEMJA MAKEDONIJA I GOSPOD DA GO BLAGOSLOVI 
NASIOT MAKEDONSKI NAROD!

SMRT ZA SIPTARISKITE-BALISTI, TERORISTI I FASISTI!

SMRT ZA SITE ZAPADNI OKUPATORSKI CIZMARI, NACISTI, FASISTI, VARVARI, 
TERORISTI, BIOKRATI I FANATICI VO NASATA MILA I SAKANA TATKOVINA MAKEDONIJA!

SMTR ZA IZRODITE MAKEDONSKI PREDAVNICKI ZVEROVI-ZVERSKI!

SLOBODA ILI SMRT ZA MAKEDONSKATA DRZAVA I ZA MAKEDONSKIOT NAROD!

EDEN ZA SITE I SITE ZA EDEN!

TOA E PORAKATA OD MAKEDONSKIOT KOMITA I PATRIOT TREPET I OD SITE HRABRI 
MAKEDONSKI KOMITI, PATRIOTI I BORCI......

VECNO DA ZIVEE MAKEDONSKATA REVOLUCIONERNA ORGANIZACIJA VMRO-MNM (MAKEDONIJA 
NA MAKEDONCITE)!

Pretsedatel Na Makedonskata Organizacija VMRO-MNM
Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet


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Makedonec
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(2/5/03 9:08 am)
Reply  Teshki vreminja Vojvodo!
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Vojvodo imate golema podrska i od mene. Bidete sigurni deka ne sum samo jas 
ami ja imate podrskata i od 90% Makedonci. Samo problemot e sto ovaa 
Kachacko-Srpska vlada ne ne ostava namira. Eve jas pred nekolku nedeli 
pocnav javno da ve podrzuvam i znaete so se sluci??!! Ne pomina den dva bev 
povikan na policija. Mi baraa informacii za vas, me prashuvaa kolku komiti 
broi VMRO-MNM i drugi informacii. Jas im odgovoriv deka ne sum imal kontakt 
so vas Vojvodo i im rekov deka jas samo sum go kazzal moeto mislenje. Eden 
od policajcite pocna da me pcue i mene i VMRO-MNM, i veruvajte se custvuvav 
uzhasno. Koga te pcue shiptar ne e tolku strasno oti znaeme deka ne ne 
sakaat, ama da te pcue tvoj brat e toa bilo pekolot. Vojvodo iskreno da ti 
kazzam deka imam gubeno sekakva nadez za nasata si sakana Makedonija. 
Makedonija ne postoi vekje ko drzava. Ballistite pravat so sakaat vo nea. Pa 
gledaj i nasite policajci se na nivna strana. Tolku za sea oti me sledat ko 
da sum nekoj kriminalec. Eve i vo internet kafe ne me ostavaat namira,pa 
policajci vo civil me sledat. POzdrav i cuvaj se Vojvodo.


MACEDONIAN REVOLUTIONARY
Registered User
Posts: 104
(2/5/03 5:24 pm)
Reply  RE: Teshki vreminja i toa mnogo teshki ama kje pobedime!
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From: "Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet" <redacted@vmro-mnm.com>
Reply-To: <redacted@vmro-mnm.com>
To: Macedonian Revolutionary <redacted@hotmail.com>
CC: "Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet" <redacted@vmro-mnm.com>
Subject: Odgovor za golemata podrska od dobriot Makedonec na forumot bidi 
chesen pod nik Makedonec!
Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 01:55:11 +0100

Vnatresna Makedonska Revolucionerna Organizacija - Makedonija Na Makedoncite 
(VMRO-MNM)
Pretsedatel: Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet

Web sajt na VMRO-MNM: www.vmro-mnm.com
Kontakt na E-mail: TREPET redacted@vmro-mnm.com

06 Fevruari 2003 g.

Zdravo zivo brat Makeodnec,

Samo sto ja dobiv porakata so tvojata golema podrska, i sto Makedonskite 
izrodi ti go zagrozuvale tvojot privaten zivot, pa duri te povikale vo 
policajskata stanica na ispituvanje. jas morav pod itno da ti odgovoram i vo 
celosno da te podrzam za tvoeto pravo na mislenje.

Brat Makedonec, mnogo ti ze zablagodaruva toa sto go rabotes za mene i za 
Organizacijata VMRO-MNM i voedno ti se zablagodaruvam za tvojata golema 
podrska.

Naj iskreno da ti kazam deka tesko mi padna a i nervite mi gi krenaa tie 
Makedonski izrodi, predavnicki zverovi-zverski. So koj pamet tie te povikale 
vo stanica za da te ispituvat kolku komiti broi Organizacijata VMRO-MNM. Pa 
dali tie kleti dusmani predavnicki zverovi-zverski, neznaat deka nikogas 
nema da doznaat kolku komiti broi Organizacijata VMRO-MNM. A i tebe da te 
ispituvat za
povise informacii za mene i za Organizacijata VMRO-MNM. Toa sto si im go 
rekol e so vistinsko patriotsko custvo i srce. Toj zver-zverski sto ne pcuel 
i tie
drugite sto te ispitivale, dali gi znaes kako se vikat i prezivat, ako gi 
znaes da si go zapises i ke mi gi dades nevnite identiteti (isto taka da gi 
zapisuvas site makedonski izrodi koj sto tebe ti se sumlivi deka se 
makedonski izrodi), za da gi registriram vo crnata kniga na Organizacijata 
VMRO-MNM.

Eve jas vo prilog ke ti ja dostavam mojata adresa a ti da mi prakjas pismo 
so identiteti na Makedonski izrodi, predavnicki zverovi-zverski. A i vo 
slucaj ako bides povise maltretiran da me izvestis preko postansko pismo. 
Nemoj slucajno da ne me isvestuvas posto ne e dobro za tebe niti za mene 
kako i za Organizacijata VMRO-MNM, pa i za Majka Makeonija kako i za doriot, 
verniot, cesniot, realniot, napateniot, zagrozeniot i porobeniot Makedonski 
narod. Jas i Organizacijata VMRO-MNM, morame i sme dolzni da gi zastituvame 
site Makeodnci koj sto se grizat za nasata mila Majka Makedonija i za 
idninata na Makedonskiot narod.

Vo sekoj slucaj, ovo moe pismo treba da go izvadis od forumot vo nekolku 
primeroci, se razbira doklku imas finaciski sretstva, posto ne e eftino da 
se raboti preko internet, mislam za nasite Makedonci vo Majka Makedonija. 
Zborot mi bese za da se izvadi moeto pismi i da go podelis na tvoite na 
verni drugari i prijateli. Vo slucaj na zgolemuvanjete na tvojot Makedonski 
patriotizam od strana na Makedonskite izrodi, predavnicki zverovi-zverski. 
Taka da ako ti go imas podeleno moeto pismo na nekolku tvoi verni drugari i 
prijateli (koj sto se
istomislenici), koj sto oni ke mozat da me obavestat, ako nesto ti se sluci 
tebe ili na bilo koj od vas, taka da nekoj od vas ke me obavesti za povise 
informacii kako za tebe pa i za niv.

Mojata adresa e slednata:

Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet
Koppargarden 13 C
261 43 Landskrona
Svedska

Brat Makedonec, nemoj da ja gubis nadesta. Imaj strplenie i veruvaj vo 
vistinskiot i realniot Makedonski patriotizam. Nisto ne se postignuva za den 
ili edna nokj. Eve gledas i ti samiot deka vremeto i denot si doagja i za 
nas vistinskite i realnite Makedonki komiti i patrioti. Sekoj dnevno brojot 
na Makedonski komiti i patrioti raste.
Za taa tema ke diskutirame vo nasite sledni pisma......

I na kraj od moeto pismo, i ti i site Makeodnski patrioti bidte mnogo 
vnimateleni i cuvajte se od prokletite i kletite Makedonski izrodi, 
predavnicki zverovi-zverski. Se razbira deka i jas moram da se cuvam. No 
sepak mene ne mozat taka lesno da mi dojdat.....

Brat Makedonec idnino na milata ni Majka Makedonija i na Makedonskiot narod.
Sekoj Makedonec sto ke sretnes i sto ke te prasat za mene i za 
Organizacijata VMRO-MNM da gi pozdravis so bratski, komitski i patriotski 
pozdravi od mene i od
site clenovi i simpatizeri na Organizacijata VMRO-MNM.

So Makedonski bratski, komitski i patriotski pozdravi.

VECNO DA ZIVEE MAKEDONSKATA ZEMJA!

VECNO DA ZIVEE MAKEDONSKIOT NAROD!

GOSPOD DA JA BLAGOSLOVI NASATA ZEMJA MAKEDONIJA I GOSPOD DA GO BLAGOSLOVI 
NASIOT
MAKEDONSKI NAROD!

SMRT ZA SIPTARISKITE-BALISTI, TERORISTI I FASISTI!

SMRT ZA SITE ZAPADNI OKUPATORSKI CIZMARI, NACISTI, FASISTI, VARVARI, 
TERORISTI, BIOKRATI I FANATICI VO NASATA MILA I SAKANA TATKOVINA MAKEDONIJA!

SMRT ZA IZRODITE MAKEDONSKI PREDAVNICKI ZVEROVI-ZVERSKI!

SLOBODA ILI SMRT ZA MAKEDONSKATA DRZAVA I ZA MAKEDONSKIOT NAROD!

EDEN ZA SITE I SITE ZA EDEN!

TOA E PORAKATA OD MAKEDONSKIOT KOMITA I PATRIOT TREPET I OD SITE HRABRI 
MAKEDONSKI KOMITI, PATRIOTI I BORCI......

VECNO DA ZIVEE MAKEDONSKATA REVOLUCIONERNA ORGANIZACIJA VMRO-MNM (MAKEDONIJA 
NA
MAKEDONCITE)!

Pretsedatel Na Makedonskata Organizacija VMRO-MNM
Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet


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VMRO-MNM SE BORI; SMRT ILI SLOBODA ZA MAKEDONIJA I ZA MAKEDONSKIOT NAROD !

FROM: "Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet" <redacted@vmro-mnm.com> | Save Address
DATE: Wed, 7 Aug 2002 12:28:54 +0200
TO: "VMRO-MNM" redacted@vmro-mnm.com, "VMRO-MNM" <redacted@vmro-mnm.com>, 
"VMRO-MNM" <redacted@vmro-mnm.com>, Macedonian 
Revolutionary <redacted@hotmail.com>
SUBJECT: VMRO-MNM SE BORI; SMRT ILI SLOBODA ZA MAKEDONIJA I ZA MAKEDONSKIOT 
NAROD !

FROM: "Lupco A Kostadinoski" <redacted@bigpond.com> | Save Address
DATE: Sat, 27 Jul 2002 01:02:25 +1000
TO: "ljupco Mircevski-Trepet" <redacted@vmro-mnm.com>
SUBJECT: pozdrav od Avstralia

pozdrav do tebe gospodine Predsedatel Qup~o Mir~evski.

Eve da vi se postavam jas Lup~o Kostadinoski od Melburn Avtsralija.

Kako sekoj eden Makedonec vo diasporata sum mnogu za gri`en za sostojbata vo 
Makedonija.

kako dr`avjanin na Avstralija sum gi ispital mo`nostite na na~in da im 
pomagnam na na{ata TATKOVINA Vo minatata godina jas se kandidirav za 
FEDERALNITE Izbori vo Avstralija.

za @al na{iot narod ne me potkrepi kako {to mislev, ama ne se predavam.

Eve sega vo Noemvri 2002 izgleda da imam povtorno {ansa za izbor za Izborite 
na VIKTORIJA.

NAJGOLEMIOT PROBLEM {to mi sleduva e toa {to na{iot narod ostanuva so plitki 
misli i ne razbiraat, za da mo`it Avstraliskata Vlada da im pomogne na 
Makedoncite vo Avstralija i pokraj Diasporata i Makedonija. e da vlezaat 
makedonci od diasporata vo politi~kata arena vo Avstralija za @al Na{ite 
ostanuvaat so Laboristi~kata Partija misle}i taa partija e za rabotnicite.

Ubreduva}i se samite samo kako rabotnici a ne kako biznismeni ili 
profesionalci( doctori,advokati i drg) imam golema gri`a i potreba za sovet 
od vas kako da gi uveram na{ite MAKEDONCI ovde vo Viktoria da glasaat za 
MAKEDONEC I ako sum vo Liberalnata Partija.

Vo prateni~koto sedi{te kade {to se nao|am imat okolu 5000 Makedonci.

So po{tovawe ve pokanuvam na sovet za da dojde denot kade {to gordo nije 
makedoncite }e se raduvame so Makedonec vo Parliament vo druga Dr`ava nadvor 
od MAkedonija.

Jas imam @elba da bidam toj prviot Makedonec ne poradi li~ni potrebi ama vo 
interes na afirmirawe na Makedonskiot identitet i za da imat uslovi za 
Makedonsko predstavni{te ovde vo Avstralija( Konzulat).

Jas li~no i sum predsedatel na Mladinskoto Dru{tvo "TANEC"; Predsedatel i 
Trener na Juniorskata ikipa na Ohrid(Melburn); Fudbaler na ikapata na Ohrid; 
Finansiski Referent na OBIDINETI MAKEDONCI NA AVSTARLAZIJA i dosta drugi 
aktivnosti vo Makedonskata diaspora ovde vo Melburn.

imam mnogu ideji i bi sakal da mo`am da gi delam so vas ako ste slobodni ili 
povratete se na ovaa e-mail ili po telefon na +613 417 575 586 ili +613 9437 
6621 kako bilo ~ekam odgovor.

so golemo po{tovawe PRATENIKOT ZA LIBERALNATA PARTIJA VO MILL PARK 
(viktorija)

LUP^O A KOSTADINOSKI........


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FROM: "Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet" <redacted@vmro-mnm.com> | Save Address
DATE: Wed, 7 Aug 2002 00:37:52 +0200
TO: "Lupco A Kostadinoski" <redacted@bigpond.com>
CC: "Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet" <redacted@vmro-mnm.com>
SUBJECT: Pozdrav od Makedonskata komitska i patriotska organizacija 
VMRO-MNM.

Makedonska Revolucionerna Organizacija VMRO-MNM
Pretsedatel: Qup~o Mir~evski-Trepet

Veb stranica: www.vmro-mnm.com
Kontakt na E-mail adresa: TREPET redacted@vmro-mnm.com

7 Avgust 2002 g.

Zdravo `ivo G-dine. Qup~o A Kostadinoski,

Golema blagodarnost za va{ata E-mail poraka i za site materijali {to mi |i 
isprati kako Ata~hment.

Materijalite na ata~hmenot vi be{e vo golema koli~ina, koj {to jas nemav 
vreme za da go razgledam, no sepak del od toj materijal go razgledav.

Vie mi pi{uvate deka ste dobile politi~ka pozicija za prateni~ki kandidat na 
tvojata partija "LIBERALNA PARTIJA VO MILL PARK (viktorija)" so tvojata 
partija vo Avstraliskiot parlament. Iskreno da vi ka`am deka se gordeam i 
sum ponosen so va{ata aktivnost za Makedonskata kauza.

Dozvolete mi kako prvo da vi ka`am; Vie ste ~len vo edena Avstraliska 
politi~ka partija i |i imate mo`nostite da dobiete dobra politi~ka pozicija 
i uloga za
za{tita na Makedonskite nacionalni i dr`avni interesi. Za taa va{a aktivnost 
i va{ite idei jas vo celosno |i podr`avam, samo za edno ne ve podr`ava, a 
toa e {to go koristite ventilatorot, po moite zabele{ki na tvoite prepiski.

Kako vtoro; Vie velite za da dobite podr{ka od na{ite Makedonci od 
podra~ijeto kade {to `iveete. Jas moram da vi ka`am deka }e bide golema 
sramota i poni`uva~ka za celiot Makedonski narod ako ne ve podr`at i da go 
dadat nivniot glas za eden edinstven Makedonec koj {to se kandira za 
pratenik vo Avstraliskiot paralament. Tuka treba site Makedonci da se 
anga`irat i da ve podr`at, isto taka i da go dadat nivniot glas za 
Makedonskiot prateni vo strana zemja.

Kako treto; Vie |i imate mo`nostite za da ve podr`at site Makedonci, vie ste 
pretsedatel na TANEC, pretsedael i trener na mladinsaka ekeipa na Ohrid 
(Melburn) i kako finaser na "obedineti makedonci" na Avstralija. Ovde se 
va{ite golemi {ansi za da dobiete celosna podr{ka. Vo taa to~ka dodavam i 
slednovo. Jas zabele`iv vo tvoite prepiski, odnosno so prepiskite koj {to 
ste se obratile kaj Makedonskiot narod za da ve podr`at. Vo va{ite prepiski 
so obra}awe kon Makedonskiot narod, jas zabele`iv deka se obra}ate so anti 
makedonskoto taka nare~eno "zname" ventilatorot. Da vi ka`am deka ovo naj 
malku mi se dopadna, isto kako so no` da me zabodivte vo sredina na srceto. 
Za ventilatorot }e vi objasnam podolu vo moeto pismo.

Kako ~etvrto; Ako vo sekoj slu~aj, vie ne ja dobiete celosnata podr{ka od 
na{ite Makedonci. Toga{ mora da ima nekoja golema lubomora i zavidnost, 
po{to na{ite Makedonci se mnogo zavidlivi i lubomorni ako nekoj Makedonec, 
specijalno nadvor od na{ata mila i sakana tatkovina Makedonija storil nekoi 
uspesi za Makedonskata kauza (A toa oni ne go razmisluvat, deka stvaraat 
golemi zagobi i {teti za Majka Makedonija i za Makedonskiot narod. Toa se 
slu~uva i kaj moite golemi uspesi so golemite aktivnosti i borbi za 
Afirmacija za vistinata na Makedonskata dr`ava i na Makedonskiot narod.

Kako peto; kako {to ste vie ~len na edena politi~ka partija i kandidat za 
pratenik. Mo`e da se tuma~i na mnogo negativni i pozitivni argumenti. Moe 
pra{awe e dali taa va{a partija ima dosega re~eno dva zbora za ogromnata 
katastrofa vo na{ata mila i sakana tatkovina Makedonija, dali nivniot vesnik 
ima napi{ano artikli za okupacijata na Vardarskiot del na Makedonija i za 
ogromnite yverski zlostorstva od {iptarskite balisti~ki teroristi i fa{isti 
i naj golemite agresori i okupatori od naj golemiote zapadni nacist~i~ki, 
fa{isti~ki, varvarski, teroristi~ki i mafijo banditski organizacii NATO, 
OBSE I OON. Dali nivniot vesnik pi{uva ponekoga{ za Makedonskata bogata 
istorija, kultura i tradicii. Ako taa va{a partija ima negativni pozitivni 
postapki kon na{ata Majka Makedonija i kon zagrozeniot i napateniot 
Makedonski narod, veruvajte mi deka nema site Makedoneci da ve podr`at. Da 
mo`e da ve podr`at Makedonci koj {to se povle~eni od Makedon{tinata i ne |i 
interesira {to se slu~uva vo Majka Makedonija i kako i kolku na{iot zagrozen 
Makedonski narod strada i pati vo Vardarskiot del na Makedonija pa i vo 
ostanatite okupirani delovi na Makedonija.

Kako {esto; Moe mislewe za va{ata kampawa e slednata. Vie kako dr`avjanin na 
angliskata kolonia vo tu|a zemja okupirana od druga narodnost "avstralija". 
Ja imate golemata {ansa za da dobiete golema podr{ka od samite angliski 
nacisti i fa{isti okupatori, i od Makedoncite. Zo{to jas vi go velam toa. Ne 
bi sakal da me svatite pogre{no i za zlo namerno, naprotiv za dobro namerno 
za va{a kampawa i vo va{ prilog.
Eve vaka, za da se dobie podr{ka od na{iot Makedonski narod, tamo kaj vas, 
vie ste zapo~nale so mnogo dobar start. Zo{to, eve zo{to, va{ite obra}awa do 
Makedonskiot narod se so anti makedonskiot sibol, so prokletoto satansko 
taka nare~eno "makedonsko zname" ventilatorot, a toa e eden golem uspeh od 
va{a strana. Zo{to go velam golem uspeh. Zatoa {to Makedonskata emigracija 
(Makedonskata dijaspora), so 99,99% go imat prifateno, go po~ituvat i go 
respektirat ventilatorot kako Makedonsko nacionalno i dr`avno zname. A 
pravoto i vistinskoto Makedonsko nacionalno i dr`avno zname 
[ESNAESETZRA^NOTO SONCE SIMOLOT OD MAKEDONSKIOT ISTORISKI I KRALIVINSKI GRAD 
KUTLE[ GO IMAT ELIMINIRANO. Taka da, ne samo vo Makedonskata dijaspora, od 
Makedonsakta emigracija, da e eliminiran vistinskiot i istoriskiot simbol 
SONCETO OD KUTLE[, nego e eminiliran so od cifra 99,99% vo Vardarskiot del 
na Makedonija i vo drugite okupirani Makedonski delovi. Ako nie zememe vo 
primer, da nie vo redovite na Organizacijata VMRO-MNM, go sklonime 
vistinskoto i istoriskoto Makedonsko nacionalno i dr`avno zname 
[ESNAESETZRA^NOTO SONCE SIMBOLOT OD KUTLE[. Veruvate mi deka Organizacijata 
VMRO-MNM, }e bide mnogo brojno podr`ana i so masivno ~lenstvo (zo{to ke 
bideme podr`ani i so golemo ~lenstvo, zatoa {to ventilatorot e satanski 
simbol za uni{tuvawe na Makedonskata dr`ava i na Makedonskata nacija). Za da 
se ostane kako dobar, veren, ~esen i realen Makedonec, }e mora da se 
po~ituvat i respektirat Makedonskite istoridki i vistinski simboli. A ne da 
se prezentirat anti makedonski, vra{ki i satanski siboli. Nie vo redovite na 
Makedonskata Revolucionerna, Komitska i Patriotska Organizacija 
VMRO-Makedonija Na Makedoncite, ostanuvame so na{ite idei i so vistinskite 
Makedonski istoriski simboli, a ne da go prezentirame i da go po~ituvame 
anti makedonskoto vra{ko i satansko "zname" ventilator.
Da |i ima{e i seu{te |i ima anti makedonski, kamofla`ni i oboeni taka 
nare~eni "makedonski politi~ki partii i organizacii kako i na mnogo dru|i 
makedonski institucii i asosijacii". Ko {to go koristea i go koristat kako 
za{titno oru`je vistinskoto i istoriskoto zname SONCETO OD KUTLE[, samo za 
da obeduvat Makedonskiot narod deka tie se Makedonci koj {to |i i }e gi 
za{tituvat Makedonskite nacionalni i dr`avni interesi. A so rie nivni 
ubeduvawa i kamofla`ni faci, |i vidovme kolku se zagri`eni i koku |i 
za{tituvat Makedonskite nacionalni i dr`avni interesi, (Se razbira i e 
doka`ano so dokumentirani argumenti i fakti, deka tie taka nare~eni 
"makedonski politi~ari" si rabotat za nivni li~ni interesi i za interesite 
na na{ite golemi agresori, yverski slo~inci, vra{ki pesovi, krvo pici, 
neprijateli i okupatori).

So toa sakam da vi ka`am, deka Makedonskata emigracija (Makedonskata 
dijaspora), e so 99,99% postanata anti makedonska emigracija (anti 
makedonska dijaspora). Svedok sum kako se podr`avaa i finansiraa i seu{te se 
podr`avat i finasiraat anti makedonskite kamofla`ni i oboeni taka nare~eni 
"makedonski politi~ki partii, organizacii, institucii i asosijacii). Na{ata 
Makedonska emigracija, e na nula od {iptarskata emigracija, od 
hrvatskata-pjrh emigracija, od atiwanskata emigracija, od izraelskata 
emigracija (Iskreno re~eno naj slaba i naj lo{a Makedonskata emigracija e vo 
celiot svet). Za vo ovie naj te{ki i naj kriti~ni sostojbi vo Vardarskiot 
del na Makedonija, Makedonskata emigracija |i podr`ava, |i finasira a i |i 
pomaga so site mo`ni materijalni sretstva Makedonskite izrodi, makedonskite 
predavni~ki yverovi-yverski, makedonskite mafija{i, banditi, anti 
makedonskata "arm"-ventilator, anti makedonskata "mvr"-ventilator i anti 
makedonskite paravojni banditski organizacii "lavovite, tigrite, {korpionite 
i volcite". Tie 4etiri paravojni banditski organizaci taka nare~enite 
"borci" vo tie grupi se plateni ubici nad Makedonskiot narod. Paravojnite 
banditski organizacii na stranskite agenti i {pijuni Qub~o 
\eorgievski-Narkomanot, na Boris Trajkovski-Vladikata, na Qube 
Bo{kovski-Slatrkarot, na Branko Crvenkovski-Ko{taplerot i na Stojan 
Andovski-Mafija{ot.
Toa e golema katastrofa za celiot dobar, veren, realen i ~esen Makedonski 
narod. Da takvi anti makedonski izrodi, mafija{ki banditi i predavni~ki 
yverovi-yverski od Makedonski rod, se podr`avat i se finansirat od 
Makedonskite biznismeni, od Majka Makedonija i od Makedonskata dijaspora, 
kako i od masivno na Makedonci od Makedonskata emigracija (od makedonskata 
dijaspora). Iako tie spomenatite zlo~inski yverovi-yverski go imat pod nivna 
kontrola celiot buxet na Vardarskiot del na Makedonija, isto tak te{ki 
miqoni dolari zimat od na{ite sosedni agresori iokupatori, kako i od 
zapadnite biokratski i banditski zemji, pa i od druga strana go molzat, go 
preavaruvat i Makedonskiot narod nadvor od na{ata mila i sakana tatkovina 
Makedonija.

Taka treba da bide site tie spomenati grupi, zemji i "li~nosti" tie anti 
makedonski yverski slo~inci, se mnogo dobro spremani od zapadnite tajni 
agentski i {pijunski slu`bi, kako da go ubeduvat i la`at Makedonskiot narod 
i kako filozofski i psiholo{ki da mu go perat mozokot na celiot Makedonski 
narod. Za da ja uni{tat postoeweto na deseto iqadnite vekovna Makedonskata 
staro drevna dr`ava i Makedonsakta stroro drevna nacija.

Kako {to vi rekov malce pogore vo pismoto, {to anti makedonski taka nare~eni 
"politi~ari", go koristat i go prezentirat Makedonskoto istorisko nacionalno 
dr`avno zname [ESNAESETZRA^NOTO SONCE SIMBOLOT OD KUTLE[. Kako oru`je za 
za{titi na nivni li~ni interesi. Eve da |i spomnam i anti makedonskata 
alijansa "partijata" na amerikanskiot agent i {pijun \or|ija - Xorx 
Atanasoski, "pretsedatel" na Anti Makedonska alijansa. Pa potoa golemiot 
pokrovitel na anti amkedonskite taka nare~eni "politi~ki partii" Todor 
Petrov "pretsedatelot" na Anti makedonsakta organizacija "svetski makedonski 
kongres". Taka da sega vo ovie momenti se ovie dve anti makedonski grupi, se 
naj vi{e podr`avat i se finasirat od Makedonskata emigracija (Makedonskata 
dijaspora). Isto taka se finansirat i od na{ite golemi nepriojateli i 
okupatori. Sepak tie dve anti makedonski grupi se podr`avaa i se finasiraa 
od po`etokot na nivnoto formirawe, no vo poslednite meseci naglo se 
finansirat od Makedonskiot narod vo Dijasporata.

I sega ka`ete mi vie mene G-dine Qup~o A Kostadinoski; Zo{to naj vernata, 
naj realnata, naj ~esnata Makedonska Revolucionerna, komitska i patriotska 
organizacija VMRO-MNM, ne se podr`va i ne se pomaga so site materijalni 
sretstva od na{ite Makedonci vo dijasporata. Jas }e vi ka`am na kratko.
Na{ite anti makedonci i na{ite Makedonski predavnici, se mnogo dobro nau~eni 
i dresirani kako jako opasni pesovi-yverovi, koj {to znaat kako i kade da go 
kasat Makedonskiot narod i da zastanat kako golema, dolga i te{ka rampa 
ispred Makedonskite komiti i patrioti i da pu{tat la`ni {pekulacii na 
Makedoncite bilo kade i da `iveaat vo svetot.

Naj iskreno da vi ka`am, jas kako dobar, veren, ~esen i realen Makedonec i 
Makedonski komita i patriot. Se ~ustvuvam kako krajno zagrozen i provociran 
od celiot zapadni svet. [to se izme{aa vo vnatre{nosta na Makedonskata 
dr`ava. I {to |i podr`avat i pomagat na{ite sosedni agresori i okupatori, za 
da ja uni{tat Makedonskata dr`ava i Makeonskata nacija. Nema niedna zapadna 
zemja {to go podr`ava i {to go pomaga zagrozeniot, nastradaniot, napateniot 
i porobeniot Makedonski narod. Site tie zapadni zemji se so golemi sorabotki 
na na{ite sosedni agresori i okupatori, taka da i tie spa|at vo taa 
unis{tuva~ka kampawa.
Svedok sum za ovie 12set godini, kako zapadnite bikratski mafija{ki banditi 
i fanatici, sorabotuvat so novo dojdenite azijatski karptetinski plemiwa na 
Makedonskata dr`ava kako agresori i okupatori. Tie zapadni biokratski 
mafija{ki banditi i fanatici. Od 1991 godina so golemi podr{ki i pomo{ kon 
{iptarskite balisti~ki teroristi i fa{isti, zaedno so tiranskata 
teroristi~ka, fa{isti~ka i mafija{ka banda, si organiziraa dve golemi 
teroristi~ki i fa{isti~ki organizacii i |i nauru`aa so zapadno sovremeno 
oru`je i so zapadni generali i specijalci za da |i obu~at {iptarskite 
balisti~ki teroristi i fa{isti, kako da izvr{uvat yversko i du{mansko 
etni~ko ~istewe i yverski du{manski |enozid na Makedonskiot naord.
Ne se vinovni samo zapadnive diokratski mafija{ki banditi i fanatici, 
vinovni sme i nie samite Makedonci, {to seu{te spieme i |i ostavame na{ite 
Makedonski izrdodi, predavni~kite yverovi-yverski, da se bogatat na ra~un na 
Makedonskiot zagrozen, nastradan i napaten narod. Seu{te Makedonskiot narod 
|i o~ekuva mafijo banditskite i teroristi~kite, taka nare~enni 
"parlamentarni izbori".
Jas ne mo`am da si go razberam mojot Makedonski narod, {to u{te o~ekuva od 
tie anti makedonski "politi~ari", od tie mafija{ki banditi i teroristi. Da 
jas }e mu re~am na mojot Makedonski narod, so nivnite glasovi si ja 
potpi{uvat smrta na na{ata mila i sakana tatkovina Makedonija i za 
uni{tuvanwe na Makedonskata nacija.

Na{iot Makedonski narod e dosta ~uden narod, barem vo ovie dene{ni vremiwa. 
Zo{to jas gore vo moeto pismo go spomnav brojot so 99,99%, {to go prifatija 
i go po~ituvat ventilatorot, isto taka go prifatija i nametnatoto ni 
prokleto ime PJRM - FYROM. Pa potoa Makedonskiot narod go prifati i go 
po~ituva i uni{tuva~kiot ramkoven dogovor vo Makedonskio grad Ohrid, so toj 
uni{tuva~ki dogor se uni{ti ustavot na Makedonsakta dr`ava. So toj 
uni~tuva~ki ramkovni dogovor se prizna i kako oficijalen {iptarski 
balisti~ki jazik vo na{ata Majka Makedonija. Za kratko vreme }e morame site 
Makedonci da |i menime na{ite dokumenti, paso{i, li~ni karti so dva jazi~ni 
dokumenti, jas toa ne mo`am da go prifatam i nikoga{ nema da zemam nikakov 
dokument na drug jazik osven na Makedonski jazik. Za mene ne egzistira 
Makedonski dokumenti so azijatski {iptarski balosti~ki jazik. A da se site 
te Makedonci kako mene, da ne prifa}at dokumenti so balisti~ki jazik, da me 
poslu{at i da |i osudat tie vele predavstva od Makedonskite izrodi, da |i 
bojkotuvat tie uni{tuva~ki de dokumenti, da ne pravat novi dokumenti so drug 
jazik na dokumentite,osven Makedonskiot jazik. Kako {to rekov, za kratko 
vreme Majka Makedonija }e bide uni{tena i Makedonskata nacija }e is~ezne za 
sekoga{. Deneska {iptarskiot balisti~ki jazik e oficijalen, utre }e se smeni 
i Makedonskata nacionalna i dr`avna HIMNA, do ventilatorot }e se zalepi i 
azijtskiot balisti~ki dvoglaven orel. A pak zadutre islamizirawe na 
Makedonskiot narod vo Vardarskiot del na Makedonija i spojuvawe na 
Vardarskiot del na Makedonija za golema {iptaro balisti~ka "albanija".

Toa e borbata na zapadniot svet, borbata na na{ite agresori i okupatori. 
Nivnata cel se ostvaruva a Makedonskiot narod spie i mol~i.
Koga sum kaj zapadniot svet, tie se nagolemo isme{aa vo vnatre{nosta na 
Makedonskata dr`ava. A samite tie ne |i po~ituvat ~ovekovite prava. 
Poslednite 10set godini nivnata anti demokracija, se zgolemi na 110%, mislam 
so kr{enweto na ~ovekovite prava. Diskriminacijata na stranskiot narod, 
mislam na narodot stranski {to ne pripa|a na zapadnite nacionalnosti, se 
zgolemuva sekoj dnevno, za nekolku godini, strancite od zemjite koj {to ne 
spa|at od zapadni zemji, }e bidat prinudeni i presileni da se vra}at od tamo 
kade {to se do{le. Zato {to diskriminacijata i nazizmot se zgolemuva sekoj 
den, nacisti~ki i fa{isti~ki partii ja dobivat vlasta i zakonite |i menat, a 
tie zakoni se diskriminatorski kon stranskiot narod. Ve}e nekolku zapadni 
zemji dobija vlast od ekstremistite, nacistite i fa{istite so nivni partii, 
e sega mo`eme da zaklu~ime kolku e nacizmot vo zapadniot svet. Eve vo 
Septemvri mesec }e se odr`at parlamentarni izbori vo Porane{na Skandinavska 
Provincija [vedska. Ovde se pojavuvaat ekstremnite i nacisti~kite partii. 
Pred nekolku dena zapo~naa politi~kite partii da iska~at vo javnosta i da 
{etat nivnite politi~ari po gradovite i da ja iznesuvat nivnata programa. 
Sve e toa povrzano so site politi~ki partii a i so EU. Edna od {vetskite 
partii, javno se izjasni so nivnata programa, sepak se znae deka site tie 
partii se so isti programi. Taa partija se vika Folk parti (Narodna 
Partija), so istato ime danska narodna partija vo danska e na vlast. Ova 
{vedska partija, veli vaka, za strancite vo {vetska, koj nema raboteno celi 
5et godini i toa non stop, ne }e mo`e i nema da ima pravo na boravi~na i 
rabotna dozvola, niti prestoj vo zemjata, }e mora da ja napu{ti zemjava. 
Isto taka, stranecot {to }e podnese barawe za {vetsko dr`avjanstvo, }e mora 
da se testira dali go mnogo dobro zbori i pi{uva {vetskiot jazik, ako ne 
toga{ nema pravo na {vetsko dr`avjanstvo. [to zna~i toj zakon za strancite i 
kolkava e taa demokratija, so tie nivni zakoni, javno im ka`uvat na 
strancite da si odat doma, od tamo kaj {to se do{le. Ne e samo toa nego ima 
ogromni diskriminacii i kr{ewe na ~ovekoviote prava kon nas strancite. Za da 
strancite vo tie zemji se prinudeni da |i po~ituvat i respektirat nivnite 
zakoni, tie zemji se dol`ni da im dadat rabotno mesto za da rabotat 5et 
godini za da dobijat boravi~na i rabotna viza. A toa ne mo`ata da go dadat i 
ne mo`at da im garantirat rabota po{to 60-70% strancite ovde barem vo 
{vedska ne se vraboteni. Tie stranci `iveeat pod socijalno, a kolku dobivat 
mese~no, tolku kolku da ne trpat gladni, strancite dobivaat socojalna pomo{ 
pomala so 40% od {ve|anite, a zamislite, vo sosednata zemja danska strancite 
dobivat socijaln pomo{ so 60% pomala od dancite.
Ete toa e zapadnata demokracija i solidarnost, jas toa go velam deka e anti 
demokratija i nacisti~ka i fa{isti~ka politika.

Sve {to nie Makedoncite sme izgubile i seu{te }e gubime, zatoa {to ne sme 
obedineti i ne sme solidarni. Mnogo |i tolerirame na{ite neprijateli i 
okupatori, a izme|u sebe si |i vadime o~ite. Zatoa jas jas spomnav nekolku 
zemji so nivnite splidarni i obedineti emigracii. Naprimer Makedonskata 
emigracija (Makedonsakta dijaspora), nikoga{ nema i nemo`e da se ravna so 
{iptrao balisti~kata emigracija ({iptaro balisti~kata dijaspora). E mnogo 
jaka i solidarna, a i golema mafija{ka banda e, se razbira kako na Balkanot 
taka i vo celiot svet. Samo edno da spomnam za {iptarskata balisti~ka 
emigracija ({iptarskata balisti~ka dijaspor). Taa nivna emigracija e mafiojo 
banditska i teroristi~ka. Neznam dali vie ja gledavte programata na 
svetskite TV kanali, za Mis univarsum. Neli za prv pat u~estvuva{e 
azijatskoto kafkasko gadno pleme so imeto "albanija". So prezentacija so 
nivna "albanka" od "albanija" i toa dojde do finali, me|u 10sete naj ubavi. 
Ne taa `enska ne be{e {iptarka, {iptarskite balisti nikoga{ ne se dozvolile 
niti nema da dozvolat da nivni {iptarski devojki ili `eni da go poka`uvat 
teloto golo na takvi javni mesta. Kako{to rekov taa `enska ne be{e {iptarka, 
nego sposobnata i jako organiziranata {iptraska mafija, plati 10setina 
miljono dolari na organizatorite na Mis Univarsum, za da se presentira kako 
nivna "albanka" i "albanija". A vo vistina devojkata be{e ruskinwa ili 
ukranka, taa devojka be{e kako prostitutka na {iptarskata mafija{ka 
banditska i teroristi~ka kompanwa.

I u{te ne{to a i mnogo va`no; Po{to vie G-dine Lup~o A Kostadinoski, se 
kandidirate za pratenik vo avstraliskiot parlament. Ovo {to }e vi go 
napi{am, odnosno mi be{e vo plan da go napi{am vo edno moe protesno pismo do 
zapadnite nerealni, anti demokratski kriminalni institucii i asosijacii. I 
mnogo dobro bi bilo da vie ovo moe pismo go prevedete na angliski jazik i da 
go dadete vo tvojata partija i vo nivniot vesnik, za da se pro~ita i za da 
bide objaveno.
Celiot svet znae deka {iptarskata mafija e me|u naj golemite svetski mafii. 
Isto taka i site politi~ari ja znaat {iptarskata mafija, a zapadnive 
politi~ari se vo jako golema sorabotka so {iptraskta mafija, kako i na{ite 
Makedonski izrodi, predavni~ki zverovi-zverski, isto taka i sofiskite i 
atinskite "politi~ari". Ovo {to jas }e go izjavam javno, za {iptarskata 
mafija e mnogo va`no za kristijanskiot narod.
[iptarskata mafija, kako {to znaeme se bavi so naj golemite i opasnite 
kriminali. A edniot od tie krimnli e drogata. [iptarskata mafija prodava na 
ogromni koli~ini na droga {irom celiot svet i ubiva 100tici iljadi 
kristijanski narod, a toa site kristijani ne go znaat. [iptarskata mafija vo 
drogata nivna stava otrov za glufci i staforci. Taka da taa nivna droga ne 
ja prodavat na muslimani, tuku specijalno na kristijanski narod. [iptarskata 
mafija koga ja prodava drogata na golemi koliini pa i na mali koli~ini, oni 
kupcite |i pra{uvat dali se muslimani, ako se muslimani, taa izme{ana drogo 
so otrovot za gluvci i staforci ne ja prodavat na nivnite pra}a muslimani i 
im davat od ~istata droga, a na kristijanskiot narod ja prodavat drogata so 
otrovot. Toa e edena golema i opasna vojna od islamot so kristijanskiot 
narod.

A za na kraj vo moeto dolgo pismo sakam da vi ka`am deka mene mnogo mi e 
te{ko i `al {to moram da go kritikuvam mojot sopstven Makedonski narod. 
Po{to jas sum mnogo realen ~ovek i ne ja sakam nevistinata, tuku ja sakam i 
po~ituvam vistinata i realnosta kaj sekoj ~ovek. Po{to na{iot Makedonski 
narod ne e obedinet i ne se potruduva da se obedini i da sorabotuva 
solidarno za za{tita na svoite nacionalni i dr`avni interesi i sve drugo {to 
e Makedonsko i {to mu pripa|a na Makedonskiot narod.

Jas mo`e mnogo da gre{am {to go napa|am i kritikuvam mojot sopstven 
Makedonski narod. Ama moram da bidam takov, po{to pored ne obedinetiot i ne 
solidarniot Makedonski narod, i jas go gubam Makedonskiot identitet i 
ostanuvam bez rodenata mi sakana i mila tatkovina Makedonija.

G-dine Qup~o A Kostadionoski, za va{ata kampawa so podr{ka od Makedonskiot 
narod, }e bide dosta komlicirana i }e treba dosta da se raboti so toj na{ 
Makedonski narod, }e treba mnogo da mu se zbori i so ostri igli da se bocka 
za da se probudi. Sepak jas ve podr`avam i vi posakuvam so golemi uspesi za 
va{ite aktivnosti i idei za Makedonskata kauza. No sepak otka`ete se od 
vra{kiot i satanskiot ventilator, ako sakate da bidete dobar, veren, ~esen i 
realen Makedonec, samo so Makedonski siboli i so Makedonski komitski i 
patriotski ~ustva.

So Makedonski, bratski, komitski i patriotski pozdravi!

VE^NO DA @IVEE MAKEDONSKATA ZEMJA!

VE^NO DA @IVEE MAKEDONSKIOT NAROD!

GOSPOD DA JA BLAGOSLOVI NA[ATA ZEMJA MAKEDONIJA I GOSPOD DA GO BLAGOSLOVI 
NA[IOT MAKEDONSKI NAROD!

SMRT ZA [IPTARISKITE-BALISTI, TERORISTI I FA[ISTI!

SMRT ZA SITE ZAPADNI OKUPATORSKI ^IZMARI, NACISTI, FA[ISTI, VARVARI, 
TERORISTI, BIOKRATSKITE MAFIJA[KI BANDITI I FANATICI VO NA[ATA MILA I SAKANA 
TATKOVINA MAKEDONIJA!

SMRT ZA IZRODITE MAKEDONSKI PREDAVNICKI YVEROVI-YVERSKI!

SLOBODA ILI SMRT ZA MAKEDONSKATA DRZAVA I ZA MAKEDONSKIOT NAROD!

EDEN ZA SITE I SITE ZA EDEN!

VE^NO DA @IVEE MAKEDONSKATA REVOLUCIONERNA ORGANIZACIJA VMRO-MNM (MAKEDONIJA 
NA MAKEDONCITE)!

JAS SUM MAKEDONEC A NE FIROMEC!

NIE SME MAKEDONCI A NE FIROMCI!

MAKEDONIJA NA MAKEDONCITE!


Pretsedatel Na Makedonskata Organizacija VMRO-MNM
Qup~o Mir~evski-Trepet


Gjuptin
Unregistered User
(1/28/03 1:53 am)
Reply  NE SE PLASI VOJVODO MAKEDONIJA E SO TEBE
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VOJVODO NEKA NE TE PLASAT OVIE IZRODI MAKEDONSKI A DA ZNAES DEKA SE SERAT OD 
STRAV OD TEBE TI PRODOLZIJA TVOJATA SVETA BORBA CELA MAKEDONIJA E SO TEBE 
VERUVAJ MI DEKA MNOGUMINA MLADI MOMCINJA SAKAAT DA TI SE PRIKLUCAT OVIE 
IZRODI SE LJUBOMORNI NA TVOJATA GOLEMA BORBA

DA ZIVEE NASIO VOJVODA TREPET
DA ZIVEE MAKEDONIJA
SMRT NA IZRODITE MAKEDONSKI
SMRT ZA NASITE DUSMANI

MAKEDONIJA NA MAKEDONCITE


MACEDONIAN REVOLUTIONARY
Registered User
Posts: 101
(1/30/03 3:08 pm)
Reply  RE: MAKEDONSKIOT VOJVODA G-DIN TREPET NE SE PLASHI OD NIKOJ
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ZDRAVO,
JAS MU JA PRENESOV TVOJATA PATRIOTSKA PORAKA NA G-DINOT VOJVODATA TREPET I 
NAJ VEROVATNO VO SKORO VREME I TEBE KJE TI ODGOVORI....

ZNAEME DEKA MASIVNO NA MAKEDONSKI IZRODI MU SE LUBOMORNI KAKO KUCHINJA. AMA 
I NA NIV KJE IM DOJDE EDEN DEN KRAJOT.

SO KOMITSKI I PATRIOTSKI POZDRAVI DO SITE DOBRI, VERNI, CHESNI I REALNI 
MAKEDONCI.

DA ZHIVEE NASHIOT MAKEDONSKI VOJVODA TREPET
DA ZHIVEE VMRO-MNM
DA ZHIVEE MAKEDONIJA
DA ZHIVEE MAKEDONSKIOT NAROD
SMRT NA IZRODITE MAKEDONSKI
SMRT ZA NASHITE DUSHMANI

MAKEDONIJA NA MAKEDONCITE


MACEDONIAN REVOLUTIONARY
Registered User
Posts: 103
(2/5/03 5:11 pm)
Reply  RE: Pozdrav do dobriot brat Makedonec pod nik Gjuptin
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From: "Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet" <redacted@vmro-mnm.com>
Reply-To: <redacted@vmro-mnm.com>
To: Macedonian Revolutionary <redacted@hotmail.com>
CC: "Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet" <redacted@vmro-mnm.com>
Subject: Odgovor na golemata podrska od dobriot Makedonec na forumot bidi 
chesen pod nik "Gjuptin"!
Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 22:47:44 +0100

Vnatresna Makedonska Revolucionerna Organizacija - Makedonija Na Makedoncite 
(VMRO-MNM)
Pretsedatel: Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet

Web sajt na VMRO-MNM: www.vmro-mnm.com
Kontakt na E-mail: TREPET redacted@vmro-mnm.com

05 Fevruari 2003 g.

Zdravo zivo Mlado momce Makeodncie,

Mnogo ti se zablagodaruvam za tvojata golema podrska a i sto me izvesti deka 
mnogo mladi Makedonski momcinja skale da mi se priklucat.

Mlado momce Makedonce, neka tie Makedonski izrodi si vikat i neka me vregjat 
i neka mi se zakanuvaat, pa i neka bidat lubomorni. Jas na nikogo ne mu se 
plasam.
Koga se raboti za zastita na Makedonskite nacionalni i drzavni interesi i 
zivotot go polozuvam. Za sve si ima vreme i za Makedonskite kleti predavnici 
ke si dojde toj den koga kje bidat unisteni.

Mojata borba za Makedonskata kauza i za zastita na Makedonskite nacionalni i 
drzavni interesi. Ke se nastavat i toa so golemo trosenje na energii i trud,
kako i so golemi aktivnosti i borbi, se razbira sve dodeka sum ziv. Jas 
nikogas nema da se odreknam od nasata ni mila i sakana tatkovina Makedonija 
i od nasiot dobar, veren, cesen, realen, napaten, zagrozen i poroben 
Makeodnski narod.
Od sekogas sum spreman da zastanam na celo so masivno na Makedonski komiti i 
patrioti i da se boram za spas i sloboda na nasata ni mila Majka Makedonija 
i na
nasiot Makedonski narod, od ovie kleti dusmani i okupatori, pa i od kletite 
Makedonski izrodi, predavnicki zverovi-zverski.

Jas ke moram da bidam kratok so moeto pismo poradi ogromnite obvrski. No 
sepak nie da ostaneme vo redovni kontakti a i ti da bides mnogo vnimatelen 
so kogo
razgovaras vo vrska za mene i za Organizacijata VMRO-MNM. Posto i samiot 
gledas deka vistinskite i realnite Makedonski komiti i patrioti se pod 
stroga spionaza.

Mlado momce Makedonce idnino na milata ni Majka Makedonija i na Makedonskiot 
narod. Sekoj Makedonec sto ke sretnes i sto ke te prasat za mene i za
Organizacijata VMRO-MNM da gi pozdravis so bratski, komitski i patriotski 
pozdravi od mene i od site clenovi i simpatizeri na Organizacijata VMRO-MNM.

So Makedonski bratski, komitski i patriotski pozdravi.

VECNO DA ZIVEE MAKEDONSKATA ZEMJA!

VECNO DA ZIVEE MAKEDONSKIOT NAROD!

GOSPOD DA JA BLAGOSLOVI NASATA ZEMJA MAKEDONIJA I GOSPOD DA GO BLAGOSLOVI 
NASIOT
MAKEDONSKI NAROD!

SMRT ZA SIPTARISKITE-BALISTI, TERORISTI I FASISTI!

SMRT ZA SITE ZAPADNI OKUPATORSKI CIZMARI, NACISTI, FASISTI, VARVARI, 
TERORISTI, BIOKRATI I FANATICI VO NASATA MILA I SAKANA TATKOVINA MAKEDONIJA!

SMRT ZA IZRODITE MAKEDONSKI PREDAVNICKI ZVEROVI-ZVERSKI!

SLOBODA ILI SMRT ZA MAKEDONSKATA DRZAVA I ZA MAKEDONSKIOT NAROD!

EDEN ZA SITE I SITE ZA EDEN!

TOA E PORAKATA OD MAKEDONSKIOT KOMITA I PATRIOT TREPET I OD SITE HRABRI 
MAKEDONSKI KOMITI, PATRIOTI I BORCI......

VECNO DA ZIVEE MAKEDONSKATA REVOLUCIONERNA ORGANIZACIJA VMRO-MNM (MAKEDONIJA 
NA
MAKEDONCITE)!

Pretsedatel Na Makedonskata Organizacija VMRO-MNM
Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet


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Atanas
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(1/22/03 9:56 am)
Reply  Pozdrav do golemiot VOJVODA STRAV I TREPET
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Gospodine Trepet vece dolgo vreme gi citam vasite poraki i so gordost ja 
sledam vasata bitka protiv nasite dusmani i protiv Makedonskite izrodi. Se 
molam na boga da se rodat povece Makedonci kako tebe. Da se rodat Vojvodi so 
nema da se uplasat od nikakvi zakani. Vcera mu procitav na tatko mi nekolku 
tvoi e-mail poraki so gi pustas niz celiot svet i da znaes deka tatko mi 
pocna da place od radost. Prosto ne mu se veruvase deka ima makedonci kako 
tebe.

Da zivee Vojvodata Trepet
Da zivee Makedonija
Makedonija na Makedoncite


MACEDONIAN REVOLUTIONARY
Registered User
Posts: 100
(1/30/03 2:48 pm)
Reply  RE: Odgovor od G-dinot TREPET do dobriot Makedonec Atanas!
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From: "Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet" <redacted@vmro-mnm.com>
Reply-To: <redacted@vmro-mnm.com>
To: "VMRO-MNM" <redacted@vmro-mnm.com>, VMRO-MNM 
<redacted@vmro-mnm.com>, "VMRO-MNM" <redacted@vmro-mnm.com>, Macedonians 
Revolutionary <redacted@hotmail.com>
CC: "Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet <redacted@vmro-mnm.com>
Subject: Odgovor na golemata podrska od nasiot Makedonec Atanas na forumot 
bidi chesen!
Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 20:43:44 +0100

Vnatresna Makedonska Revolucionerna Organizacija-Makedonija Na Makedoncite 
(VMRO-MNM)
Pretsedatel: Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet

Web sajt na VMRO-MNM: www.vmro-mnm.com
Kontakt na E-mail: TREPET redacted@vmro-mnm.com

Zdravo zivo Atanas,

Tvijata poraka sto si ja dopatil kon mene (Na Makedonskiot forum bidi 
chesen),
ja dobiv od clenot na Organizacijata VMRO-MNM (MACEDONIAN REVOLUTIONARY). 
Koj sto i toj samiot postavuva nasi informacii a i ponekogas i se rasprava 
so anti makedoncite od nasa krv (so Makedonskite predavnici).

No jas koga ja procitav tvojata poraka so golemata podrska si rekov (Golema 
mi e gordosta so takvi Makedonci kako tebe), zosto ne se site nasi Makedonci 
kako tebe. Atanas naj iskreno ti se zablagodaruvam za tvojata podrska i 
veruvam deka
i vo idnina kje go imas istoto mislenje kon mene.

Kako sto si gi cital moite golemi aktivnosti i borbi protiv nasite kleti 
dusmani i protiv nasite Makedonski izrodi, predavnicki zverovi zverski.
Veruvaj mi deka go nema toj dusmanski i kleti zver na ovaj svet koj sto moze 
da mu usmee za da me zaplasi ili da me uplasi da ne rabota i da se boram za 
Makedonskata kauza i da gi zastituvam Makedonskite nacionalni i drzavni 
interesi.

Eve vo prilog ke ti dostavam link so edna poraka koj sto mi ja imat 
isprateno atinjanskite nacisti, fasisti i teroristi. Koj sto mi se zakanuvat 
so ubistvo.
Oni mislat deka jas ke im se uplasam na nivnite zakani, tuka se imat mnogo 
grdno zeznato deka jas ke se uolasam od nivnite zakani i ke prestanam so 
mojata golma aktivnost i borba za Makedonskata kauza.

www.vmro-mnm.com/E-mail_p..._pleme.htm

www.vmro-mnm.com/Read_abo...RO-MNM.htm

Kako sto go gledas i linkot sto e na angliski. Tuka zakanata od arapskoto 
zagadeno pleme e ispratena sirom celiot svet. A tie E-mail adresi se naj 
vaznite svetski licnosti, faktori, fanatici i zapadno biokratski banditi. 
Isto taka se
isprateni do site medioumi sirom celiot svet, do site nedomogratski 
organizacii, asosijacii i institucii.

Atanas znas kako se veli nasata stara izgovorka, koj cekal i toj docekal, 
koj posleden se smee na slatko kje se smee. Pa zatoa jas veruvam deka i mojt 
den ke dojde koga site resitelni i hrabri kako i verni, seriozni i cesni 
Makedonski komiti i patrioti ke me pobarat i ke se zaclenat vo Makedonskata 
Revolucionerna, komitska i patriotska organizacija VMRO-MNM (Makedonija Na 
Makedoncite). I taka da site zaedno ke bideme edna Makedonska komitska i 
patriotska sila, koj sto so moite sigurni i pobedlivi idei i planovi ke 
uspeeme da gi pobedime nasite kleti dusmanski neprijateli i okupatroti i da 
ja obedinime nasata mila i sakana
tatkovina Makedonija i da go spsime i oslobodime nasiot zagrozen, napaten i 
poroben Makedonski narod. Pa i da gi unistime nasite kleti Makedonski 
izrdodi, predavnicki zverovi-zverski. A potoa da Organizacija VMRO-MNM, 
zaedno so oslobedniot poroben Makedonski narod da ja gradime idninata na 
Majka Makedonija i da postekneme golem napredok na Majka Makedonija i na 
Makedonskiot narod. Da
ja povratime Makedonskata ukradena istorija, kultura, tradicii, opljackanoto 
bogatstvo na Majka Makedonija i na Makedonskiot narod i mnogo drugo…..

Atanas na krajot od moeto pismo, mnogo i toa so komitski i patriotski da go 
pozdravis tvojot TATKO i site tvoi vo familijata.

Sega za sega tolku od mene, ako imas nesto da me prasas ili sakas da mi 
dades nekoi od tvoite predlozi, slobodno pisi mi na mojata E-mail adresa
redacted@vmro-mnm.com

So Makedonski bratski, komitski i patriotski pozdravi.

VECNO DA ZIVEE MAKEDONSKATA ZEMJA!

VECNO DA ZIVEE MAKEDONSKIOT NAROD!

GOSPOD DA JA BLAGOSLOVI NASATA ZEMJA MAKEDONIJA I GOSPOD DA GO BLAGOSLOVI 
NASIOT
MAKEDONSKI NAROD!

SMRT ZA SIPTARISKITE-BALISTI, TERORISTI I FASISTI!

SMRT ZA SITE ZAPADNI OKUPATORSKI CIZMARI, NACISTI, FA[ISTI, VARVARI, 
TERORISTI, BIOKRATI I FANATICI VO NASATA MILA I SAKANA TATKOVINA MAKEDONIJA!

SMRT ZA IZRODITE MAKEDONSKI PREDAVNICKI ZVEROVI-ZVERSKI!

SLOBODA ILI SMRT ZA MAKEDONSKATA DRZAVA I ZA MAKEDONSKIOT NAROD!

EDEN ZA SITE I SITE ZA EDEN!

TOA E PORAKATA OD MAKEDONSKIOT KOMITA I PATRIOT TREPET I OD SITE HRABRI 
MAKEDONSKI KOMITI, PATRIOTI I BORCI......

VECNO DA ZIVEE MAKEDONSKATA REVOLUCIONERNA ORGANIZACIJA VMRO-MNM (MAKEDONIJA 
NA
MAKEDONCITE)!

Pretsedatel Na Makedonskata Organizacija VMRO-MNM
Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet


Atanas
Unregistered User
(2/5/03 9:35 am)
Reply  Vistinskite Makedonci se gordeat so vas Vojvodo Trepet
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G-dine Trepet na pocetok bi sakal da vi se zablagodaram so najdovte vreme i 
za mene. Jas znam deka pokraj tolku mnogu predavnici I dushmani so imame ne 
vi e lesna rabotata i znam deka ste mnogu zafaten vo borbata za 
Makedonija.Istotaka imate golem komitski i patriotski pozdrav od tatko mi. 
Toj veli deka i ako umre vamo vo tugjina ke umre srecen bidejki znae oti ima 
lugje kako vas VOJVODO so se borite za Makedonija. Makedonija ne e ostaena 
ko sirace.
Vojvodo jas iako sum mnogu mlad sepak dokolku dojde do vojna vo Makedonija 
spremen sum da go dadam mojot zivot. Mislam deka koa go zrtvuvas zivotot za 
tvojata tatkovina ne e vazno kolku godini imas. Ako gresam mozete slobodno 
da me popravite. No da vi kazham uste nesto.Nikogas nema da prifatam da se 
boram po vodtsvo na ovie banditi kako so gi narekuva tatko mi. Vie mnogupati 
ste napisale deka duri i LAVOVITE se Anti-Makedonci. Vojvodo jas vo pocetok 
bev navreden od ovie zborovi no posle seto toa so se sluci minatata nedela 
vie VOJVODO ste bile vo pravo. I Lavovite ne bile niso drugo osven 
predavnici i kriminalci. Vidovte i samite deka za pari bea podgotveni da 
ubijat svoi brakja. G-dine Trepet zarem moze eden Makedonec da bide tolku 
golem predavnik??Znaci lavovite ne se borele za Makedonija ami se borele za 
pari?! Znaci ako ballistite im dadat pari tie ke se borat na stranata na 
shiptarite?. Vie VOJVODO ste vo pravo koga velite deka prvo treba nasite 
predavnici da gi eliminirame pa posle nasite dushmani. Jas ne znam kakvi 
Makedonci se ovie lavovite koi so celo vreme samo treniraa i niso ne 
napravia. A zgora na toa recisi site bile ubijci..znacii ubivale Makedonci, 
siluvale Makedonki. Pa VOJVODO vo so se razlikuvaat togas "lavovite" od 
shiptarskite bandi??.Jas ne gledam nekoja si razlika.I ednite i drugite 
ubivale makedonci. I edni i drugite siluvale Makedonki. VOJVODO znam deka 
sum mnogu mlad i deka vie site ovie raboti vekje gi znaete.Ama ne razbiram 
kako posle site ovie raboti seuste ima Makedonci so ja sakaat ovaa vlada i 
ovie lavovi. Uste ednas ke kazham deka nema da prifatam na front da me 
komanduvaat ni ednite ni drugite. Tatko mi veli deka na front treba da 
komanduva covek kako vie VOJVODO. Komandantot ne treba da bide predavnik i 
toj treba da bide covek so nema da se prodava ni za milijarda marki. Pa 
G-dine STRAV I TREPET ja ne gledam drug covek sposoben za ovaa rabota osven 
vie VOJVODO. (drugite se site prodaeni dushi)
Na kraj imate golem pozdrav i mnogu golema podrska od mene. Se nadevam deka 
ke najdete vreme za toa so napisav. Sakav da vi pisam na e-mail ama neso ne 
se otvora. Ke probam posle pak ako moze ke ti ispratam.
So komitski pozdrav
Atanas


MACEDONIAN REVOLUTIONARY
Registered User
Posts: 105
(2/8/03 9:16 am)
Reply  Komitski pozdravi do Makedonskiot komita Atanas.
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From: "Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet" <redacted@vmro-mnm.com>
Reply-To: <redacted@vmro-mnm.com>
To: Macedonian Revolutionary <redacted@hotmail.com>
CC: "Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet" <redacted@vmro-mnm.com>
Subject: Odgovor do mladiot Makedonski komita na forumot bidi chesen pod nik 
Atanas!!!
Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2003 16:58:46 +0100

Vnatresna Makedonska Revolucionerna Organizacija - Makedonija Na Makedoncite 
(VMRO-MNM)
Pretsedatel: Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet

Web sajt na VMRO-MNM: www.vmro-mnm.com
Kontakt na E-mail: TREPET redacted@vmro-mnm.com

08 Fevruari 2003 g.

Zdravo zivo Makedonski patriot Atanas,

Naj iskreno da ti kazam deka imas dosta golemi patriotski custva a i golema 
ti e ljubovta kon Majka Makedonija i kon dobriot, napateniot i porobenito 
Makedonski narod.

Jas se trudam sto povise da odvojam vreme i da im odgovoram na site dobri i 
cesni Makedonci. No za zal stvarno epten mnogo sum zafaten so rabota i 
nemozam da postignam so odgovori. Mnogo mi se lutat sto ne im odgovaram na 
porakite. Sepak site treba da me razberat, naprimer kako ti sto me razbiras.

Atanas blagodaram za pozdravite od tvojot Tatko i odmene da go pozdravis so 
Makedonski bratski, komitski i patriotski pozdravi. Reci mu na tatkoti da ne 
se predava ne e vreme za da se zbori za umiranje, jas veruvam deka Tatkoti 
ne tolku star. I ke dojde denot kaj sto i Tatkoti pa i site Makedonci ke 
vidat i docekat kako nasata Majka Makedonija ke bide obedineta i nasiot 
Makedonski narod ke bide osloboden i spase od ovo prokleto i dusmansko 
ropstvo...

Taka e mlado momce Atanas. Nasata mila i sakana tatkovina Makedonija ne e 
ostavena kako sirace. Nasata Majka Makedonija ima rodeno hrabri sinovi 
Makedonski revolucioneri, komiti i patrioti koj sto ke se borat so svoite 
zivoti za da Majaka Makedonija bide oslobodena i obedineta i nasiot 
Makedonski narod da bide spasen i osloboden od prokletoto dusmanski 
ropstvo....

Atanas veruvam deka si spreman za da se boris protiv agresorite i 
okupatorite. No edno ke ti kazam, vo eden smisol si vo pravo deka i mladi 
Makedoncinja bi gi polozile svoite zivoti za da ja branat svojata takovina 
Makedonija. Jas ne sakam da te razocaruvam i da mi se lutis sto moite soveti 
kon Mladite Makedoncinja e da ne mislat za puski vrace i da vlezat vo 
teskite i krvnite frontovni linii. Jas imam odluceno i na toa stojam, 
pomladi Makedonci od 20 godini ne gi zimam na borbeni frontovi, jas ne sakam 
mladi Makedoncinja koj sto se idninata na Majka Makedonija i na idnite 
Makedonski generaci da ginat, posto imame stotina iljadi vozrazni i zdravi 
Makedonci koj sto trebat i se dolzni da se borat za Majka Makedonija i za 
celiot Makedonski narod. I toa da ti kazam, koga jas bi go smenil moeto 
mislenje i bi donel nova odluka za organiziranje na mladi Makedonski komiti 
i patrioti, mislam na mladi Makedonci od 14 godisni pa do 20 godisni, 
iskreno da ti kazam so 100% garancija, deka za vo rok na dva meseca ke 
organiziram naj malku 50 000 iljadi mladi Makedonski komiti i patrioti. Jas 
znam i veruvam deka site tie mladi Makedoncinja sto se pomladi od 20 godini 
mi se lutat i mi imat zamereno sto imam doneseno dakva odluka. No veruvam 
deka eden den tie nasi mladi brakja ke me razberat deka sum vo pravi i ke 
razmislat deka sum realen i seriozen Makedonec koj sto mislam za nivna 
idnina i kje svatat deka stvarno Majka Makedonija ima vozrasni i zdravi 
Makedonci koj sto oni treba da se borat a ne mladite Makedoncinja. Jas imam 
mnogo podobri idei i planovi za aktivni zadaci za vas pomladite 
Makedoncinja.
Atanas tatkoti e vo pravo sto ti rekol za banditite, i ti da go poslusas toj 
sovet. No kazi mi ti mene kolku godini imas.

Mlado momce Atanas. Mnogo nasi Makedonci mi se lutea i agresivno me napagjaa 
koga jas ja kazuvav vistinata za ovie anti makedonski i banditski paravoeni 
grupi bprci platenici "lavovi, tigri, skorpioni i volci". Jas pred vreme 
javno izjavuvav deka ne moze Makedonski paravoeni odnosno taka receno 
Makedonski borbeni organizacii da bidat vistinski, realni i cesni borci kga 
se pod komanda i pod kontrola nad anti makedonskite teroristickite i mafijo 
banditskite organizacii "dpmne"-sizofrenicarite i "sdsm"-sizofrenicarite. Ne 
moze nikoj da mi kaze deka platen Makedonec od stranite neprijateli i od 
Makedonskite izrodi, moze da bide dobar, veren i seriozen borec koj sto ke 
ja brani Makedonskata drzava i koj sto ke go zastituva Makedonskiot narod. 
Naprotiv tie plateni borci so mesecni plati od 1000 - 2000 evrai ili dolari 
se zastitnici na tugite interesi i interesite na Makedonskite izrodi, 
predavnicki zverovi - zverski...
Za da bide vistinski, realen i cesen Makedonski komita i patriot, nema da 
bara mesecna plata i nema da bide vo redovite na anti makedonski paravoeni 
grupi i da bide pod komanda na anti Makedonski faktori i fanatici, kako i 
Makedonski predavnicki komandanti i sefovi. Ako se vrativme vo vremeto na 
turskoto robstvo, koga se formira Makedonskata sveta Organizacija VMRO. 
Togas site Makedonski revolucioneri, dejci, vojvodi, komiti i patrioti se 
borele i toa vistinski so srce se borele za da ja oslobodat nasata mila i 
sakana tatkovina Makedonija, ne samo sto tie se borele nego i celiot 
Makedonski narod gi podrzaval i rabotel so Makedonskite komiti i patrioti. A 
dokolku vo ovo denesno vreme nasiot Makedonski narod e tolku zbunet i zaspan 
da ne gleda prst pred oci sto im rabotat ovie Makedonski izrodi, predavnicki 
zverovi - zverski.
Atanas da ne te cudi sto "lavovite" pa i drugite izmisleni "borbeni grupi" 
se kriminalci i predavnici. Gledame samo koj im se komandanti i sefovi. Toa 
e normalno deka tie "lavovi, tigri, skorpioni i volci", pa i 
"arm"-ventilator i "mvr"-ventilator se kriminalci i predavnici tie se za 
pari vlezeni i pridruzeni vo redocite na anti makedonskata, teroristickata i 
mafijo banditskata "vlada"-ventilator i "sobraniete"-ventilator. Nisto da ne 
te cudi sto se ubivale Makedonski narod i silovale Makedonski devojki i 
zeni. Tie zaedno sorabotuvat so zapadnite nacistcki, fasisticki, varvarski, 
teroristicki i mafijo banditski organizacii nato, eu, un, obse i dr. Kako i 
so atinskite, sofiskite, belgratskite i tiranskite nacisticki, fasisticki, 
teroristicki i mafijo banditskite rezimi.
Eve jas ke ti kazam za edna slucka sto imam procitano vo edna Makedonska 
kniga (momentalno ne mozam da setam vo koj kniga i od koj aftor - pisatel e 
napisana). Na eden tekst pisuvase vaka. Toa se rabotese za dvojca deserteri 
vo vremeto na edna od balkanskite vojni. Srpsko cetniclata vojska apsila 
dvojca deserteri edniot bil "bugarski deserter a drugiot bil srpski 
deserter. Srpskite cetnici gi zatvorile dvajcata deserteri vo ista celija. 
Po izvesno vreme srpskite cetnicki zatvori gi posetil nekoj si francuski 
oficer za da vidi kako se odnesuvat srpskite cetnicki rezim kon 
zatvornicite. Koga sefot na zatvorot mu gi pokazuval celiite i zatvornicite, 
dosle do edna celija kaj sto bile dvojcata deserteri. Tie dvajca desereteri 
si sborele na ist jazik koj sto i dvajcata se razbirale, francuskiot oficer 
go prasal sefot na zatvorot, koj se tie zatvornici, sefot mu rekol deka 
edniot 2 "bugarski" vojnik koj sto desertiral a drugiot vojnik e srpski 
deserter, a francuskiot oficer go prasa pa kako da bide edniot "srpski 
vojnik" a drugiot "bugarski vojnik" koga se razbirat sto zborat, srpskito 
sef na zatvorot mu odgovoril, pa kako da ne se razbirat koga zborat ist jaz 
oni se MAKEDONCI....E sega Atanas mozes da si zakluces i vo denesno vreme so 
taka narecenite makedonski paravoeni grupi "lavovite, tigrite, skorpionite i 
volcite", koj sto se strani borci i platenici i pobratimeni so siptarskite 
ekstremisticki, fasisticki, teroristicki i mafijo banditski organizacii A 
tie anti makedonski banditski grupi "lavovite, tigrite, skorpionite i 
volcite", ne da bidat Makedonski komiti i patrioti......
Taka da "lavovite" se strani platenici i za pari ke ubivat nasi brakja 
Makedonci i ke silovat nasi sestri Makedonki....

Atanas se uste si mlad, no dosta si inteligentno momce. Ima den koga ke 
razberes, zosto Makedonskiot narod seuste gi podrzava Makedonskite izrodi, 
predavnicki zverovi - zverski sto ja imat vlasta vo svoi race, kako i 
Makedonskoto sobranie, pa za seto zlostorstvo sto napravile Makedonskite 
izrodi i anti makedonskite "lavovi". Se dodeka citas za realni, vistinski i 
cesni Makedonski komiti i patrioti i imas kontakti so vistinski, realni i 
cesni Makeodnski komiti i patrioti ke ja doznavas vistinata za site nasi 
neprijateli i okupatori pa i za Makedonskite izrodi, predavnicki zverovi - 
zverski. Makedonskiot narod e dosta naiven i toleranten, makedonskiot narod 
so vekovi pod kleto i dusmansko ropstvo i ima so vekovi stradano i pateno od 
ovie prokleti zverski okupatorski dusmani. A naj vise sto si pati e od smiot 
sebesi, od svojot roden brat, od svoite Makedonski predavnicki zverovi - 
zverski. E toa sto seuste gi podrzava Makedonskite izrodi vo anti 
makedonskata "vlada"-ventilator i "sobranie"-ventilator, pa i anti 
makedonskite paravoeni banditski grupi. E faktot e sto site Makedonski 
intelektuaci, pravnici, profesori, eksperti, doktori, pisatelite, novinarite 
i Makedonskite biznismeni se so Makedonskite "politicari" - izrodi i rabotat 
so niv non stop za da gi naucat kako filozofski i psiholoski da go lazat i 
kako da mu go perat mozokot na Makeodnkiot narod. I iskreno da ti kazam deka 
uspesno im ide rabotata i mnogo dobro se organizirani kako finansirani od 
Makedonskiot buzet i od Makedonskite biznismeni.

Eve vo prilog ke ti dostavam eden link, koj sto se raboti za eden nas 
Makedonec koj sto e zaposlen vo edna od anti makedonskite bezbednosni 
struktui.

<<<<Pocituvani Makedonci kako i dali da imame doverba kon Makedonskite borci 
koj sto se vo redovite na anti makedonskite bezbednosni strukturi!>>>>


www.vmro-mnm.com/Pocituva...ukturi.htm

Kako sto ti samiot si primetil deka nema da prifatis da odis na front i da 
te komanduvat Makedonski izrodi. Isto taka i tatkoti e vo pravo deka na 
front treba da komanduva covek kako mene i jas mozam da kazam deka sum 
spreman za takava komanda, so vistinski, realni i cesni Makedonski komiti i 
patrioti.... Se razbira deka treba da bide vistinski, cesen i realen 
Makedonski Vojvoda ili komandant ne treba predavnik, nego da bide cesen, 
veren i realen koj sto parata da ne go interesira nego da ima Makedonska 
patriotska cuvst, ljubov i gordost kon svojata taktovina Makedonija i 
Makedonskiot narod.... Jas ne sum toj Makedonec koj sto se lakomi za pari. 
Mene ne moze nikoj na ovaj svet da me kupi i ja nema taa para sto moze da me 
povleci ili da me otstrani od nasata ni mila i sakana tatkovina Makedonija 
ili da mu go svrtam grbot na nasiot dobar, veren, cesen, realen, napaten, 
zagrozen i porov´ben Makedonski narod....
I ovo da ti go kazam pred godina ili dve ne se sekjavam tocno koga bese no 
sepak gnasnata i psihopatskata zakan bese vo vrmeto na anti makedonskata 
"vlast"-ventilator od probugarskite plateni agenti i spijuni so 
teroristickata i mafijo banditskata organizacija "dpmne"-sizofrenicarska. 
Eden Makedonec nivni clen, psihopat i sizofrenicar od prilep mi napisa edna 
gnasna, navredliva E-mail porak i plus mi se zakani. Toj psihopat i 
sizofrenicar me napadna deka sto jas sum ja kritikuval "makedonskata vlada", 
"vladata" na "dpmne"-sizofrenicarite. A toa se rabotese za eden od moite 
povici za organiziranje na dobrovolni Makedonski komiti i patrioti. Toj 
psihopat i sizofrenicar mi napisa deka ke se prijavil za dobrovolec i da 
dojde na sredba samo mene da me ubil.... E toa sto sakam da ti kazam deka 
dosta od nasite Makedonci se uste ne razbirat i ne se svatile sto e i kako e 
da bides dobar, veren, cesen i realen Makedonski komita i patriot pa i dobar 
Makedonec.....

Sega za sega tolku od mene pa do citanje...

So Makedonski bratski, komitski i patriotski pozdravi.

VECNO DA ZIVEE MAKEDONSKATA ZEMJA!

VECNO DA ZIVEE MAKEDONSKIOT NAROD!

GOSPOD DA JA BLAGOSLOVI NASATA ZEMJA MAKEDONIJA I GOSPOD DA GO BLAGOSLOVI 
NASIOT MAKEDONSKI NAROD!

SMRT ZA SIPTARISKITE-BALISTI, TERORISTI I FASISTI!

SMRT ZA SITE ZAPADNI OKUPATORSKI CIZMARI, NACISTI, FASISTI, VARVARI, 
TERORISTI, BIOKRATI I FANATICI VO NASATA MILA I SAKANA TATKOVINA MAKEDONIJA!

SMTR ZA IZRODITE MAKEDONSKI PREDAVNICKI ZVEROVI-ZVERSKI!

SLOBODA ILI SMRT ZA MAKEDONSKATA DRZAVA I ZA MAKEDONSKIOT NAROD!

EDEN ZA SITE I SITE ZA EDEN!

TOA E PORAKATA OD MAKEDONSKIOT KOMITA I PATRIOT TREPET I OD SITE HRABRI 
MAKEDONSKI KOMITI, PATRIOTI I BORCI......

VECNO DA ZIVEE MAKEDONSKATA REVOLUCIONERNA ORGANIZACIJA VMRO-MNM (MAKEDONIJA 
NA MAKEDONCITE)!

Pretsedatel Na Makedonskata Organizacija VMRO-MNM
Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet


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MACEDONIAN REVOLUTIONARY
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Posts: 113
(3/19/03 12:11 pm)
Reply  Seriozni Makedonski komitski i patriotski poraki!
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Seriozni Makedonski komitski i patriotski pora}i do Makedonskiot narod i 
specijalni Pora}i do Makedonskite komiti i patrioti!

http://www.vmro-mnm.com/Seriozni_Makedonski_komitski_i_patriotski_Poraki_do_Makedonskiot_narod_i_specijalni_Poraki_do_Makedonskite_komiti_i_patrioti.htm

So bratski, komitski i patriotski pozdravi do site dobri i gordi Makedonci i 
do site Makeodnski komiti i patrioti.

SLOBODA ILI SMRT ZA MAKEDONIJA.
EDEN ZA SITE I SITE ZA EDEN.
SMRT ZA SRBOKUMUNISTITE-SRBOMANITE.
SMRT ZA PROBUGARITE-TATARITE-BUGAROFILITE.
SMRT ZA SITE MAKEDONSKI PREDAVNICHKI ZVEROVI.
SMRT ZA SITE SHIPTARSKI GNASNI KACHACI.
VECHNO DA ZHIVEE MAKEDONSKOTO SVETO IME VMRO.
VECHNO DA ZHIVEE VMRO-MNM NA GOLEMIOT MAKEDONSKI SIN, REVOLUCIONER I VOJVODA 
GOSPODIN TREPET.
VECHNO DA ZHVEE GOLEMIOT MAKEDONSKI SIN, REVOLUCIONER I VOJVODA GOSPODIN 
TREPET.
VECNO DA ZHIVEE MAKEDONSKIOT NAROD.
VECNO DA ZHIVEE MAKEDONSKATA DRZHAVA.
SO GOSPOD NAPRED I SO GOPOD NAPOMOS.
JAS SUM MAKEDONEC A NE FYROMEC.
NIE SME MAKEDONCI A NE FYROMCI.

MAKEDONIJA NA MAKEDONCITE.

Veb stranica na MAKEDONSKATA KOMITSKA I PATRIOTSKA ORGANIZACIJA VMRO-MNM 
(MAKEDONIJA NA MAKEDONCITE): www.vmro-mnm.com


Vanco
Unregistered User
(3/20/03 4:01 am)
Reply  SO TEBE SME VOJVODO
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VOJVODO SO TEBE SME SITE CESNI MAKEDONCI VREME E DA NAPUSTUS TUGJINATA I DA 
NE PREDVODIS VO KONECNATA BITKA PROTIV VNATRESNITE I NADVORESNITE DUSMANI

SE ZA MAKEDONIJA
DA ZIVEE VOJVODATA TREPET


MACEDONIAN REVOLUTIONARY
Registered User
Posts: 114
(3/26/03 10:58 am)
Reply  Re: Samo taka i samo napred dobri MAKEDONCI!
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From: "Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet" <redacted@vmro-mnm.com>
Reply-To: "Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet" <redacted@vmro-mnm.com>
To: "VMRO-MNM" <redacted@vmro-mnm.com>, MRO-MNM 
<redacted@vmro-mnm.com>, "VMRO-MNM" <redacted@vmro-mnm.com>, Macedonians 
Revolutionary <redacted@hotmail.com>
CC: "Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet" <redacted@vmro-mnm.com>
Subject: Odgovor do nasiot Makedonski brat Vanco (So golemata podrska sto ja 
ima dadeno so negoviot postaven post na forumot Bidi Chesen)!
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 19:24:43 +0100

Vnatresna Makedonska Revolucionerna
Organizacija-Makedonija Na Makedoncite (VMRO-MNM)
Pretsedatel: Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet

Web sajt na VMRO-MNM: www.vmro-mnm.com
Kontakt na E-mail: TREPET redacted@vmro-mnm.com

26 Mart 2003 g.

Zdravo zivo brat Vanco,

Poradi moite golemi obvrski, zalam sto ne mozev odma da ti odgovoram po 
dobivanjeto za tvoite golemi podrski!

Vanco naj iskreno i so golema blagodarnost za tvojata golema podrska i za 
mnogo dobrite pozelbi.

Da ti kazam naj iskreno jas ne bi ziveel vo tugja zemja a da zalam i stradam 
za Mojot sakan i drago cenet dobar, napaten, nastradan, zagrozen i poroben 
Makedonski narod i za nasata ni porobena mila i sakana tatkovina Makedonija.

Vanco tvoite predlozi ti se mnogo dobri i jas gi prifakjam se od srce i kako 
cesen, veren, realen i gord Makedonski komita i patriot. Jas sum spreman za 
da ja napustam tuginata i da dojdam doma vo nasata ni mila, sakan i porobena 
tatkovina Makedonija. A za sve toa zavisi kolku i kolkava podrska dobivam i 
ke dobijam od dobriot, verniot, cesniot, realniot, napateniot, zagrozeniot i 
porobeniot Makedonski narod.
Eve naprimer kako ovaj "makedonec":

FROM: "Ivan Todorovski" <redacted@hotmail.com>
DATE: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 15:56:13 -0500
TO: "Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet" <redacted@vmro-mnm.com>

Kaj si more budala. Shto kur ti ne otidesh vo Makedonija pa od tamu da 
jadesh govna.

Sedish vo Kanada i kako nenormalen tresesh gluposti. Odi ti ili decata prati 
si gi da se tepaat.

Kolku shkolo imash zavrsheno more ajvan. Ti si nepismen.

Aj chao.

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FROM: "Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet" <redacted@vmro-mnm.com>
DATE: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 02:46:53 +0100
TO: "Ivan Todorovski" <redacted@hotmail.com>, "Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet" 
<redacted@vmro-mnm.com>
SUBJECT: "Bravo Ivan Todorovski samo taka napred"!

"Bravo Ivan Todorovski samo taka napred" (Dali ne ti e sramota toa sto go 
pisuvas). Vaka so vakvi tvoi i na mnogo drugi Makedonci so grdi i bezobrazni 
odnesuvanja, navredi, zavidlivost i so uceni nikogas nie Makedoncite nema se 
obidinuvame i da bideme edinstveni!

Pozdrav od relaen, cesen i gord Makedonec
Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet


Dobro ni dojdovte vo Web stranicata na naj golemata, naj vistinskata, naj 
cesnata, naj realnata i naj nacionalnata Makedonska Revolucionerna, komitska 
i patriotska Organizacija
VMRO-MNM (Makedonija Na Makedoncite)!

www.vmro-mnm.com/Dobro_ni...RO-MNM.htm

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From: "Ivan Todorovski" <redacted@hotmail.com>
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 15:56:13 -0500
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Vanco jas nekolku pati sum bil vo nasata ni mila i sakana Majka Makeodnija i 
pak ke dojdam (Samo pod baranje i povikuvanje i toa seriozno povikuvanje od 
site dobri Makedonci deka ke bidat so mene za obidinuvanje na Makedonskata 
drzava i na Makeodnskiot narod). Mene kuferot mi e spakovan i toa odamna. 
Samo sakam i cekam da me povikat dobrite, vernite, cesnite, zagrozenite, 
napatenite i porobenite brakja i sestri Makedonki i Makedonci. A naj vise i 
na vazno e da me povikat site verni, cesni, realni, gordi i resitelni 
Makedonski komiti, patrioti i borci. Posto na nasiot Makedonski narod 
moralot mu e totalno simnat na nula. Pa zatoa nie site hrabri, dobri, verni, 
cesni, realni i gordi Makedonski revolucioneri, komiti, patrioti i borci 
treba da se organizirame vo edinstvenata Makedonska nacionalna, 
revolucionerna, komitska i patriotska organizacija VMRO-MNM (Makedonija Na 
Makedoncite). Za da seriozno se zapocne so rabota, aktivnosti i borbi protiv 
site Makedonski neprijateli protiv stranskite kleti, zverovi, dusmani, 
zlocinci i unistuvaci na Makedonskata drzava i na Makeodnskiot narod. Kako 
seriosni aktivnosti, operacii i borbi protiv Makedonskite izrodi, 
predavnicki zverovi-zverski koj sto gi vodat goelmite stranski pletenici, 
spijuni i agenti Kiro Gligorov-Vampirot, Boris Trajkovski-Vladikata, Ljubco 
Georgievski-Narkomanot, Branko Crvenkovski-Kostaplerot, Ljube 
Boskovski-Slatrkarot i uste nekolku kako niv mafijaski banditi, psihopati, 
sizofrenicari i pedofili. I se razbira borba protiv Makedonskite mafijaski 
bandite i koruptirani-prodadeni dusi Makedonci na celo so nivnite mafijaski 
bosovi, psihopati, sizofrenicari, pedofili, alkoholisti i narkomani Branko 
Crvenkovski-Kostaplerot i Ljubco Georgievski-Narkomanot.

Vanco tebe i na site dobri, verni, cesni, realni, zagrozeni, napateni i 
porobeni braka i sestri Makedonki i Makedonci vi vetuvam deka sto pobrzo ke 
dojdam doma vo nasata ni mila i sakana porobena tatkovina Makedonija i ke se 
zapocni so golemi seriozni akcii i borbi protiv nasite kleti, dusmani, 
zlocinci i neprijateli od nadvor i vnatre vo nasata ni mila i sakana Majka 
Makedonija.
Koga amerikanskite i angliskite diktatori, nacisti, fasisti i fanatioci 
George.W.Bush-Hitler i Tony Blair-Musulini. Se razbira so golemi sorabotki i 
podrski od site zapadni diktatorski, nacisticki, fasisticki, varvarski, 
agresorski, teroristicki i mafijo banditski zemji go okupiraa irak i eve 
veke edna nedela kako bombardirat i rusat sve zivo vo islamskata-arabska 
zemja irak za da go zemat crnoto zlato Oljeto na irackiot narod. Taka da tie 
nacisti i fasisti ne go okupiraa i ne go bombardirat irak i ubivat i tesko 
raneti na iljadnici civili, za da go eliminirat golemiot diktator Sadam 
husein ( Ne se raboti deka jas gi podrzavam muslimanite nego naprotiv od 
edna strana e toa dobro za nas Makedoncite sto zapadnite zemji ke se pokazat 
koj i se tie "demokratski, solidarni i realni zemji", se razbira deka tie se 
so anti demokratski, diktatorski i mafijo banditski opsestva). Nego da go 
kradat oljto na irackiot narod. Isto kako sto zapadnite nacisti i fasisti se 
vlezeni vo Vardarskiot del na Makedonija za da go pljackat ogromnoto 
bogatstvo na Makedonskata drzava i na Makedonskiot narod. I da pravat 
zverski, dusmanski zlostorstva so etnicko cistenje i genocid nad 
Makedonskiot narod so nivnite plateni zagari-pesovi siptarskite ekstremisti, 
nacisti, fasisti, teroristi i mafijaski banditi (A i so zapadnite platenici, 
agenti i spijuni od Makedonski rod).......
Pa zatoa jkas koga ke dodam doma vo Majka Makedonija i ke se aktiviram za so 
pogolemi seriozni akcii za organiziranje na Makedonski komiti, patrioti i 
borci za da se borime protv nadvoresnite i vnatresnite dusmani i zlocinci 
nad Makedonskiot narod i na Makedonskata drzava. Pa duri togas jas ke gi 
prasam dali tie diktatori, nacisti, fasisti, varvari, fanatici, psihopati, 
sizofrenicari, pedofili, agresori, provokatori, teroristi i biokratski 
mafijaski banditi od zapadot svet kje smejat da gi otvorat nivnite izvlakani 
i zasmrdeni usti a i dali ke smejat da si gi pokasat ovie dupli maski sto gi 
nosat na nivnite izvlakani i zagadeni faci.....

So Makedonski bratski, komitski i patriotski pozdravi.

VECNO DA ZIVEE MAKEDONSKATA ZEMJA!

VECNO DA ZIVEE DORIOT MAKEDONSKI NAROD!

GOSPOD DA JA BLAGOSLOVI NASATA ZEMJA MAKEDONIJA I GOSPOD DA GO BLAGOSLOVI 
NASIOT
MAKEDONSKI NAROD!

SMRT ZA SIPTARISKITE-BALISTI, TERORISTI I FASISTI!

SMRT ZA SITE ZAPADNI OKUPATORSKI CIZMARI, NACISTI, FA[ISTI, VARVARI, 
TERORISTI, BIOKRATI I FANATICI VO NASATA MILA I SAKANA TATKOVINA MAKEDONIJA!

SMRT ZA IZRODITE MAKEDONSKI PREDAVNICKI ZVEROVI-ZVERSKI!

SLOBODA ILI SMRT ZA MAKEDONSKATA DRZAVA I ZA MAKEDONSKIOT NAROD!

EDEN ZA SITE I SITE ZA EDEN!

TOA E PORAKATA OD MAKEDONSKIOT KOMITA I PATRIOT TREPET I OD SITE HRABRI 
MAKEDONSKI KOMITI, PATRIOTI I BORCI......

VECNO DA ZIVEE MAKEDONSKATA REVOLUCIONERNA ORGANIZACIJA VMRO-MNM (MAKEDONIJA 
NA MAKEDONCITE)!

JAS SUM MAKEDONEC A NE FYROMEC!

NIE SME MAKEDONCI A NE FYROMCI!

MAKEDONIJA NA MAKEDONCITE!

Pretsedatel Na Makedonskata
Organizacija VMRO-MNM
Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet


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Pochituvani braka i sestri Makeodnski i Makeodnci.
Web sajtot na organizacijata VMRO-MNM (Makedonija na Makedoncite) 
www.vmro-mnm.com e zatvoren.
Chitajte ja izjavata i apelot od G-dinot TREPET do Makedonskiot narod.

From: "Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet" <redacted@hotmail.com>
To: redacted@hotmail.com
CC: redacted@hotmail.com
Subject: Web sajtot na VMRO-MNM e zatvoren citajte ja mojta izjava.
Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 15:15:52 +0000

Makedonski komito eve ja mojata izjava i sega mozes da ja preprakjas na 
Makedonski narod i postvi ja vo Makedonskite forumi.

Vnatresna Makedonska Revolucionerna Organizacija - Makedonija Na Makedoncite 
(VMRO-MNM)!
Pretsedatel: Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet

Privremen kontakt na E-mail adresata Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet 
<redacted@hotmail.com>

11 April 2003 g.

Pocituvani braka i sestri Makedonki i Makedonci!

Deneska na den 11 April 2003 g. Na Vnatresna Makedonska Revolucionerna 
Organizacija - Makedonija Na Makedoncite (VMRO-MNM). Web stranicata 
www.vmro-mnm.com se zatvori. Povodot i faktot za zatvaranjeto na Web 
stranicata www.vmro-mnm.com bese sto siptarskite, ekstremisti, nacisti, 
fasisti, pedofili, psihopati, sizofrenicari, teroristi i mafijaski banditi, 
aktivno se aktiviraa zaedno so Makeodnskite izrodi, predavnicki 
zverovi-zverski koj sto zaedno ja imat vlasta sobranieto i site drugi 
Makedonski institucii i asosijacii. Ke povtoram, povodot i faktot bese za 
ispratenite E-mail poraki od siptarskite zverski, zlocinski dusmani na 
Makedonskiot narod, so nivni zakani i provokacii. Nie od Organizacijata 
VMRO-MNM tie nivni agresorski, provokatorski, zakanuvacki i lazna propaganda 
E-mail poraki gi objavivme vo naj Makedonskiot nacionalen, komitski i 
patriotski Web sajt. Poslednite dve nedeli imavme konflikt so gazdite na 
kompanijata Mette Martinsen redacted@isphuset.se i Tom Martinsen 
redacted@isphuset.se, ISPHuset Nordic AB redacted@isphuset.se Webb: isphuset.se/.
Taka da gazdite, odnosno direktorite na kopanijata imale domieno E-mail 
poraki od siptarskite gadovi so zalbi sto nie sme objavuvale nivni E-mail 
poraki so nivni iminja i preziminja i sto sme gi narekle siptaraskite 
gnasotii za vistinski nasisti, fasisti i teroristi (E-MAIL FROM ALBANIAN 
NAZIS, FASCISTS AND TERRORISTS!). Taka da na direktorite ne im se dopadnalo 
dek nasite golemi agresori, zlocinci i dusmani sme gi narekle ALBANIAN 
NAZIS, FASCISTS AND TERRORISTS.
Pa neli zapadniot svet e demokratski, solidarni i realni. Sekoj covek ima 
pravo da si go iskaze svoeto mislenje. Ne samo nie Makedoncite nemame pravo 
da si go kazeme naseto mislenje. Da si ja kazuvame nasata vistina. Da gi 
kazime ogromnite zagrozuvanja i stradanja na dobriot, vernio, cesniot, 
realniot, zagrozeniot, napateniot i porobeniot Makedonski narod.

Pocituvani braka i sestri Makedonki i Makedonci. Jas vo prilog ke vi gi 
dostavam E-mail porakite od Direktorkata Mette Martinsen na kompanijata i 
mio odgovori. Analizite na E-mail porakite se napisani na Svedski-FSPOS 
jazik. Da jas ne vi gi preveduvam analizite na Makedonski jazik, moze nema 
da mi veruvate, pa zatoa mozete vie samite da se snajdete so preveduvanje na 
Makedonski jazik.
Citajte me posle E-mail porakite:

FROM: "ISPHuset / Mette Martinsen" <redacted@isphuset.se>
DATE: Fri, 4 Apr 2003 09:56:25 +0200
TO: <redacted@vmro-mnm.com>
SUBJECT: SV: SV: Hemsidan och mailen igen!

Hej igen Ljupco

Mängden av klagar på din hemdia har ökt här, och styrelsen har beslutat att 
sidan brytar mot våra almänna vilkor. Du har till på fredag att hitta ett 
nytt webbhotell - härifrån kommer dina konton att stängas ner på nästa 
fredag. Vi beklagar, men det är inget annat vi kan göra.

Med vänlig hälsning
Mette Martinsen

Mette Martinsen / ISPHuset Nordic AB

Tlf: +46 (0)46 854 29, Fax: +46 (0)46 854 21
Email: redacted@isphuset.se Webb: isphuset.se/

-----Ursprungligt meddelande-----
Från: vmro-mnm [mailto:redacted@vmro-mnm.com]
Skickat: den 31 mars 2003 21:53
Till: ISPHuset / Mette Martinsen
Kopia: Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet
Ämne: Re: SV: Hemsidan och mailen igen!


FROM: Alban halili <redacted@yahoo.com.au>
DATE: Sat, 27 Oct 2001 01:01:46 +1000 (EST)
TO: "VMRO-MNM" <redacted@vmro-mnm.com>
SUBJECT: Mamu ti cigansku

HAHAHAHAHAHAAH

Macedonia is a heart of Albania!!!!!!!!!
and Shkupi will be the Capital of Greater Albania??
We "Kosovar black eagles" r able to take macedonia
within 2 hours???????
Kosovar black eagles" A special army unit mainly consisted of kOSOVARS 
aMERICANS and English paramilitary special troops???

Alla bless U.S.A kosova, England, Germany

we gonna kill all uz mother fuckers??????

briefcase.yahoo.com.au - Yahoo! Briefcase - Manage your files
online.

From: "Ferik Ferizaj" redacted@hotmail.com
To: redacted@vmro-mnm.com
Subject: Macedonia is Ours
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 00:52:32 -0600

Albanians will take over Macedonia within 10 years (remember this)!!!.
And Albanians are not terrorists but you and all Serbians are. The world 
knows who terrorists are.
There is no Macedonian Nation-those who call themselves Macedonian are 
either Serbian or Bulgarian-everybody knows it.
I'm not from Macedonia but I Will fight for our land (Macedonia is our Land) 
and we will take over Macedonia.
In fact Albanian Army in Macedonia is fighting already (as you may well 
know).
So remember Mr. whoever you are Macedonian is Albanian Land.

Write me at redacted@hotmail.com
or visit me at
ferik.intranet
I'll tell you more!
FONT&NBSP;&NBSP;SIZE=2

www.vmro-mnm.com/Massacre...ian_terrorists.htm

www.vmro-mnm.com/E-mail_f...orists.htm

From: Rahim Hiseni redacted@hotmail.com
To: redacted@bredband.net
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2001 5:17 PM
Subject:

@#%$ YOU ALL MACEDONIEN WHE WILL KILL YOU ALL...........


---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: "ISPHuset / Mette Martinsen" <redacted@isphuset.se>
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 12:17:56 +0200

Hej igen Ljupco

Jag vet att jag har att göra med en förening och att du är bra att tala för 
dig, men jag har tyvärr inte tid att kommentera ditt mail ytterligare eller 
hålla på att mäkla. Jag ser på din hemsida följande rubrik:

E-MAIL FROM ALBANIAN NAZIS, FASCISTS AND TERRORISTS!

Vi har faktisk regler om att vi inte accepterar någon form av rasism på våra 
sidor, och även om det är så att du tycker du bara visar fram vad andra 
skriver, så får du modifiera det du själv skriver i alla fall. Personen som 
har kontaktat mig önskar vara anonym och inte kontakta dig direkt. Vi har 
som sagt inte tid att hålla på med detta, så du får alltså nu en chans att 
göra din hemsida så att den kan ligga på vår server och följa våra regler. 
(Se punkt 11)

Med vänlig hälsning Mette Martinsen


Mette Martinsen / ISPHuset Nordic AB

Tlf: +46 (0)46 854 29, Fax: +46 (0)46 854 21 Email: redacted@isphuset.se Webb: 
isphuset.se/


-----Ursprungligt meddelande----- Från: vmro-mnm 
[mailto:redacted@vmro-mnm.com] Skickat: den 28 mars 2003 17:11 Till: 
ISPHuset / Mette Martinsen; redacted@vmro-mnm.com Kopia: vmro-mnm Ämne: Re: 
Hemsidan och mailen igen!


Hej Mette!

Jag har tidigare bett dig att du skall e-maila personen/personerna ifråga 
och be denne/dem att kontakta mig så att jag kan ta bort dens/deras e-mail 
adress/er. Detta har inte skett. Jag kan omöjligt veta vilken/vilka 
denna/dessa personen/personerna är då vi har tusentals e-mails på 
organisationens hemsida. De flesta av dem är dock stolta över att få vara 
delaktiga i hemsidan. Däremot kan jag tänka mig att de som har skrivit 
hotelser och vulgariteter till organisationen inte uppskattar att finnas 
här.

Du skriver att det inte är första gången jag är i blåsväder. Då frågar jag 
vilket blåsväder det skulle vara? Jag har aldrig varit i något blåsväder. 
Däremot har vissa personer (eller person) kontaktat dig för att denne/de 
vill att organisationen skall plocka bort dens/deras e-mail adresser. 
Naturligtvis plockar vi bort e-mail adresserna för de som inte vill stå för 
sina åsikter.

Antingen får vi göra så att du ber dem att kontakta organisationen eller så 
får du själv kopiera deras klagomål och maila oss detta inklusive e-mail 
adresserna och vilken länk det gäller (detta är ytterst viktigt, annars kan 
jag omöjligen hitta brevet/breven). Det bästa är dock att du själv skickar 
oss detta då det inte fungerade förra gången jag sade till. Och jag vill 
inte hamna i "något blåsväder", som du uttrycker det, för att de inte mailar 
mig.

När det gäller e-mails, du har skrivit att "se till att sluta maila fok som 
inte önskar få dina e-mails", så skickar vi dessa till: folk som har 
kontaktat organisationen, Politiska forum och gästböcker och politiska, 
historiska hemsidor på nätet.

Vad jag vet så är politiska forum till för diskussion. Sålunda så läser jag 
ett inlägg som någon annan skrivit och sedan svarar på detta. Vad jag 
förstår med ditt e-mail så är det således så att organisationen inte är 
"välkommen" hos vissa diskussionsforum. I så fall behöver vi veta vilka de 
är så att vi inte "stör" dem igen. Jag vill dock säga att har man ett 
diskussionsforum på nätet så får man också vara beredd på att det blir 
diskussioner. Annars vad är det för mening med att ha det?

Organisationen skickar alltså inte till några "vanliga" företag eller "stör" 
någon som inte är politisk engagerad.

Om något av detta skulle upprepas, vilket vi inte får hoppas men som en 
politisk organisation aldrig kan vara säker på, så vill jag att ni kontaktar 
organisationen och skickar e-mail adresserna direkt, utan kommentarer, så 
att vi kan plocka bort dem direkt. Detta underlättar både för er och för 
organisationen och jag slipper sådana här e-mails som jag absolut inte 
uppskattar.

M.v.h Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet


---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: 
"ISPHuset / Mette Martinsen" <redacted@isphuset.se> Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 
14:18:05 +0100

Hej Ljupco

Vi har åter mottagit en anmälan pga din hemsida och dina mailutskick. Du 
lägger ut emails på hemsidan och igen är det personer som inte önskar detta. 
Du får också se till att sluta maila folk som inte önskar få dina emails. Om 
inte vi kan få orden på detta har vi inget annat val än att stänga ner din 
hemsida. Då mycket av texten är på macedonsk (?) kan vi av goda grunnar inte 
få med oss allt, men detta är inte första gången du är i blåsväder. Kan du 
inom en vecka dokumetera att du har ändrat på hemsidan, får du ligga kvar, 
annars får vi stänga ner.

Mvh. Mette Martinsen ISPHuset Nordic AB


Pocituvani braka i sestri Makedonki i Makedonci!
Jas imav sumna deka toa se raboti za ignoriranje na Makeodnskata 
Organizacija VMRO-MNM (Makedonija Na Makedoncite), od svetskata javnost. Se 
razbira za da ne se doznava vistinata za Makedonskata drzava i za 
Makeodnskiot narod. I moejata sumlivost ispadna i vo vistinsko. Pred nekoj 
den na mojot mobil telefon mi se javi eden GNASEN siptarski-balista i mi 
rece deka sme prokleti sloveni i deka gi kostalo "albancite" i nivnite slavo 
Makedonski prijateli od vladata sto morale da platat nekolku miljoni dolari 
na direktorite od kompanijata Mette Martinsen redacted@isphuset.se i Tom 
Martinsen redacted@isphuset.se za da se zatvori Web stranicata na Organizacijata 
VMRO-MNM.

Pocituvani moi Makedonci. Golemite uspesi i napreduvanja na siptarskite 
ekstremisti, nacisti, fasisti, teroristi, pedofili, psihopati, sizofrenicari 
i mafijaski banditi i na Makedonskite izrodi, predavnicki zverovi-zverski. 
Uspesite i napreduvanjata im uspevat sekoj dnevno zatoa sto nie Makedoncite 
ne sme obedineti i edinstveni. Nie Makedoncite sme podeleni i se mrazime 
eden sprema drug, a nasite golemi neprijateli i zlocinski dusmani ni se 
smeat i si se podigavat so nasata tolerancija kon nasite golemi neprijateli, 
zverski i zlocinski dusmani i golemi tolerancii kon Makedonskite zlocinski 
dusmani, izrodi i predavnicki zverovi-zverski.
Bogatata siptarska-balisticka mafijaska banda i Makedonskite kapetalisticki 
izrodi, predavnicki zverovi-zverski se sposobni da platat bilo koj samo da 
ni naskodi na nas dobrite, vernite, realnite, napatenite, zagrozenite i 
porobenite Makedonci. A naj golemata aktivnost i borba na gnasnite 
siptarski-balistii, ekstremisti, nacsiti, fasisti, teroristi, pedofili, 
psihopati, sizofrenicari i mafijaski banditi i na Makedonskite psihopati, 
sizofrenicari, pedofili, mafijaski banditi, Makeodnskite izrodi, predavnicki 
zverovi-zverski im e da ja unistat VNATRESNATA MAKEDONSKA REVOLUCIONERNA 
ORGANIZACIJA-MAKEDONIJA NA MAKEDONCITE (VMRO-MNM).

Pocituvani dobri, verni, cesni, realni, zagrozeni, napateni i porobeni braka 
i sestri Makedonki i Makedonci. Apeliram do site vas, da ni pomognete i 
podrzite so nasata Makedonska nacionalna, komitska i patriotska Organizacija 
VMRO-MNM i da ni pomognete i podrzite so naj Makeoskata nacionalna, komitska 
i patriotska Web stranica, za da pronajdeme nekoja sigurna i dobra internet 
kompanija za da ja otvorime povtorno Web stranicata www.vmro-mnm.com .
Dokolku sakata da ni pomognete pisete ni na ovie dve E-mail adresi: Ljupco 
Mircevski-Trepet redacted@hotmail.com i Macedonian 
Revolutionary redacted@hotmail.com
Predhodnite E-mail adresi na Organizacijata VMRO-MNM: VMRO-MNM 
redacted@vmro-mnm.com, Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet redacted@vmro-mnm.com, VMRO-MNM 
redacted@vmro-mnm.com, VMRO-MNM redacted@vmro-mnm.com 
(Tie E-mail adresine postojat povise).

Unapred vi se zablagodaruvam za vasata realna sorabotka, pomos i podrska!

So Makedonski bratski, komitski i patriotski pozdravi do site dobri, verni, 
cesni, realni i gordi brakja i sestri Makedonki i Makedonci, od site nas 
komitite i patriotite od Organizacijata VMRO-MNM (Makedonija Na 
Makedoncite).

VECNO DA ZIVEE MAKEDONSKATA ZEMJA!

VECNO DA ZIVEE MAKEDONSKIOT NAROD!

GOSPOD DA JA BLAGOSLOVI NASATA ZEMJA MAKEDONIJA I GOSPOD DA GO BLAGOSLOVI 
NASIOT MAKEDONSKI NAROD!

SMRT ZA SIPTARISKITE-BALISTI, TERORISTI I FASISTI!

SMRT ZA SITE ZAPADNI OKUPATORSKI CIZMARI, NACISTI, FASISTI, VARVARI, 
TERORISTI, BIOKRATI I FANATICI VO NASATA MILA I SAKANA TATKOVINA MAKEDONIJA!

SMRT ZA IZRODITE MAKEDONSKI PREDAVNICKI ZVEROVI-ZVERSKI !

SLOBODA ILI SMRT ZA MAKEDONSKATA DRZAVA I ZA MAKEDONSKIOT NAROD !

EDEN ZA SITE I SITE ZA EDEN!

TOA E PORAKATA OD MAKEDONSKIOT KOMITA I PATRIOT TREPET I OD SITE HRABRI 
MAKEDONSKI KOMITI, PATRIOTI I BORCI......

VECNO DA ZIVEE MAKEDONSKATA REVOLUCIONERNA ORGANIZACIJA VMRO-MNM (MAKEDONIJA 
NA MAKEDONCITE)!

JAS SUM MAKEDONEC A NE FYROMEC!

NIE SME MAKEDONCI A NE FYROMCI!

MAKEDONIJA NA MAKEDONCITE!

Pretsedatel Na Makedonskata Organizacija VMRO-MNM
Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet


From: "Dame Xxxxxxxxx" <redacted@hotmail.com>
To: redacted@hotmail.com
Subject: pozdrav od Dame
Date: Tue, 20 May 2003 18:35:28 +0000

Zdravo Trepet kako si?

Odamna nese imame cueno.. eve nekoj pederi ti ja zatvorile web stranicata pa 
nemozev da najdam f forum kade sto mozam da procitam nesto od tebe, ali 
sepak konecno na network54.com te najdov i razbrav kako ti ja zatvorile 
stranicata iako sepak mi e tesko da svatam deka na nekoj do tolku si mu 
precel na internet sto se resil ogromni pari da platit za da ti e simnit web 
stranicata. Sepak od edna strana barem znajs deka makedonskite neprijateli 
seriozno te imet svateno i strav gi fajkat od tebe.
pisimi nazad i kazimi kako si? sto imat novo?.. sega nemam vreme mora da 
odam.. pozdrav, Dame.


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FROM: "Nxxxxxx" <redacted@chello.at>
DATE: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 18:17:44 0100
TO: "Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet" <redacted@vmro-mnm.com>
SUBJECT: MAKEDONSKI PATRIOT

NAJPRVIN EDEN GOLEM POZDRAV DO VAS, I BOG NEKA NI BIDE NAPOMOS.

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PZDRAV OD: M A K E D O N S K I  P A T R I O T


FROM: "Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet" <redacted@vmro-mnm.com>
DATE: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 23:02:06 0100
TO: "Nxxxxxx" <redacted@chello.at>
CC: "Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet" <redacted@vmro-mnm.com>
SUBJECT: Re: MAKEDONSKI PATRIOT

Vnatresna Makedonska Revolucionerna Organizacija - Makedonija Na Makedoncite 
(VMRO-MNM)
Pretsedatel: Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet

Web sajt na VMRO-MNM: www.vmro-mnm.com
Kontakt na E-mail: TREPET redacted@vmro-mnm.com

04 Fevruari 2003 g.

Zdravo zivo Makedonski patriot,

Mnogo ti se zablagodaruvam za patriotskata poraka i dosta si razocaran!

Da ti kazam i toa naj iskreno. Za site tvoi informacii (fakti), mi e mnogo 
dobro poznato i ne treba da ti gi analiziram od fakt do falt. No sepak kje 
ti dadam nekolku moi analizi. Za sve ovo sto ti mi pisuvas , jas mnogo pati 
go imam napisano i toa pred nekolku godini.

Sto se raboti za velepredavstvoto od strana na Makedonskite izrodi, 
predavnicki zverovi-zverski, anti makedoncite od makedonski rod, 
srbokomunistickata i siptaroteroristickata i mafijo banditskata teroristicka 
organizacija "sdsm"-sizofrenicarska a i azijatsko mongolskata tatarskata 
"probugarskata" i siptaroteroristickata i mafijo banditskata organizacija 
"dpmne"-sizofrenicarska. Si napravija kako sto nim i odgovara a i kako sto 
im odgovara i na nasite okupatori i na zapadniot nacisticki, fasisticki, 
varvarski, teroristicki i mafijo banditski svet.

Site nie Makedonci znaeme deka kukavicki i zverski ni go smenija ustavnoto 
ime na Makedonskata drzava, kukavicki i zverski ni go smenija Makedonskoto 
nacionalno i drzavni zname SESNAESETZRACNOTO SONCE OD MAKEDONSKIOT KUTLES i 
ni go namestija prokletiot i satanskiot znak ventilator. Site nie znaeme 
deka site Makedonski firmi i fabriki gi prodadoa za mali pari na stranite 
biokratski mafijaski banditi. Isto taka Makedonskiot narod dobro znae deka 
ogromnoto bogatstvo na Makedonskata drzava i na Makedonskiot narod se 
pljacka sekoj dnevno.

A sto se raboti odnosno sto se sprema da se izmeni imeto "fyrom" so nekoe 
drugo ime, toa ne treba da ne cudi niti pak da bideme iznenadeni. 
Azijatskoto arapskoto i divo karpetinskioto pleme (po naj novo narecena 
"grcka" i nareceni "grci"). Tie se obedineti i edinstveni, nivnata 
fasisticka, teroristicka i banditska vlast ne dozvoluvat da nie Makedonskte 
si imame svoja drzava i da sme kako Makedonska nacija. A za sve toa sto 
atinjanite ni go pravat, sme naj golemite vinovnici nie tokmu nie samite 
Makedonci. Dali na ovaj svet postoi takov naive i saspan narod kako sto sme 
nie Makedoncite. Samiot Makeodnski narod si dozvoli da mu go smenat 
ustavnoto ime na sopstvenata Makedonska drzava. Samiot Makedonski narod si 
dozvoli da mu go smenat i znamet i da mu namestat ventilator. Ne moze nasiot 
Makedonski narod da mi kaze deka "vlasta" go stori toa, da tie go storija 
velepredavstvoto a Makedonskiot narod ne trebase da kjuti, da spie i da go 
prifati "fyrom" i ventilatorot. Makedonskiot narod ne treba da dozvoli da 
seuste nasite teritorii da se pod okupacija.

I toa da go kazam Makedonskiot narod go prifati i go pocituva prokletiot 
unistuvacki ramkovni dogovor, so unistivanje na ustavot na Makedonskata 
drzava. Taka da Makedonskiot narod ke prifati i ke gi pocituva izmentie na 
Makedonskata nacionalna i drzavna HIMNA. I stavanie na pasosite azijatsko 
albanski jazik i so nivni fasisticki i teroristicki orlovi glavi kako 
simbol.

Ne e seto toa sto go spomnuvame, ima mnogo drugi katastrovi sto ke iskocat 
vo naj skoro vreme.
Od koga ke se izmisli nekoe gnasno ime na Makedonskata drzava, od koga ke se 
smeni MAKEDONSKATA HIMNA so albansko-fyrom ili drugo isto taka od koga se 
stavat azijatsko albanski jazik i orlovite na Makedonskite pasosi i site 
drugi dokmuenti, pa ke se stavi odnosno ke se zakcat orvovite glavi na zidot 
vo anti makedonskoto teroristicko i mafijo banditskoto 
"sobranie"-ventilator. Pota doagja druga katastrofa. Vo site osnovni skoli, 
vo site sredni skoli i unevirziteti ke morat site Makedonci da ucat 
albansko-fyrom jazik isto kako sto nie bevme vo bivsa komunisticka 
jugoslavija srpsko-hrvatski, a po moe mislenje ke bide samo na azijatsko 
albanski jazik, posto Makeodnskiot narod vo Vardarskiot del na Makedonija e 
pod tiranska okupacija so golema podrsaka od zapadniot svet. A i toa da go 
kazam. Posto se vodat strogo tajni diskusii so "sdsm"sizofrenicarite i 
"dpmne"sizofrenicarite, se razbira vo prisustvo na novo dojdenite 
karpetinski gadni pleminja na Makedonskiot balkan i vo prisustvo na 
zapadnite nacisti, fasisti, varvari, fanatici, teroristi i mafijaski 
banditi, od koga ke se razoruzat anti makedonskata "arm"-ventilator, anti 
makedonskata "mvr"-ventilator i anti makedonskite paravoeni grupi "lavovite, 
skorpionite, tigrite i volcite". Posto samite Makedonci gledat i citat kako 
se rasformirat anti makedonskite odnosno taka narecenite makedonski 
paravoeni grupi "lavovite, tigrite, skorpionite i volcite". Znam deka ovie 
nivnite komandanti i sefofi od "sdsm"sizofrenicarite i 
"dpmne"sizofrenicarite isto taka tajno se imat dogovoreno za da apsat 
Makedonski cesni, verni, realni patrioti i borci koj sto se prijavile kako 
dobrovolci vo redovite na nivnite izmisleni paravoeni organizacii, pa i vo 
"arm"-ventilator i vo "mvr"-ventilator i da gi zatvarat vo zatvorite koj sto 
tie gi kontrolirat. Od koga toa ke gi pozatvarat cesnite, vernite i realnite 
Makedonski patrioti i borci i od koga ke gi razoruzat anti makedonskata 
"arm"-ventilator i "mvr"-vetilator e toagas Vardarskiot del na Makedonija 
kje bide podelen dali na dva dela ili na tri dela za toa uste ne sum sigiren 
no naj verovatno ke bide podelen na dva dela za golema "albanija" i za 
golema "bugarija".

Moj brate Makedonski patriot, jas i Organizacijata VMRO-MNM imame dosta 
golemi problemi sto nasite Makedonski komiti i patrioti sto se vo kontakt so 
nas, mnogo brgu se otkrivat od stranite tajni sluzbi a i od tajnite sluzbi 
od Makedonskite izrodi, predavnicki zverovi-zverski. Zosto ti go velam toa, 
zatoa sto poveketo nasite kontakti se preko internet i zatoa mnogo lesno se 
otkrivat ispratenite E-mail adresi i nasite odgovori........
So Makedonski bratski, komitski i patriotski pozdravi.

VECNO DA ZIVEE MAKEDONSKATA ZEMJA!

VECNO DA ZIVEE MAKEDONSKIOT NAROD!

GOSPOD DA JA BLAGOSLOVI NASATA ZEMJA MAKEDONIJA I GOSPOD DA GO BLAGOSLOVI 
NASIOT MAKEDONSKI NAROD!

SMTR ZA SIPTARISKITE-BALISTI, TERORISTI I FASISTI!

SMRT ZA SITE ZAPADNI OKUPATORSKI CIZMARI, NACISTI, FASMTR ZA IZRODITE 
MAKEDONSKI PREDAVNICKI ZVEROVI-ZVERSKI!

SLOBODA ILI SMRT ZA MAKEDONSKATA DRZAVA I ZA MAKEDONSKIOT NAROD!

EDEN ZA SITE I SITE ZA EDEN!

TOA E PORAKATA OD MAKEDONSKIOT KOMITA I PATRIOT TREPET I OD SITE HRABRI 
MAKEDONSKI KOMITI, PATRIOTI I BORCI......

VEENO DA ZIVEE MAKEDONSKATA REVOLUCIONERNA ORGANIZACIJA VMRO-MNM (MAKEDONIJA 
NA MAKEDONCITE)!

Pretsedatel Na Makedonskata
Organizacija VMRO-MNM
Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet


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Reply  Teshki vreminja Vojvodo!
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Vojvodo imate golema podrska i od mene. Bidete sigurni deka ne sum samo jas 
ami ja imate podrskata i od 90% Makedonci. Samo problemot e sto ovaa 
Kachacko-Srpska vlada ne ne ostava namira. Eve jas pred nekolku nedeli 
pocnav javno da ve podrzuvam i znaete so se sluci??!
Ne pomina den dva bev povikan na policija. Mi baraa informacii za vas,me 
prashuvaa kolku komiti broi VMRO-MNM i drugi informacii.Jas im odgovoriv 
deka ne sum imal kontakt so vas Vojvodo i im rekov deka jas samo sum go 
kazzal moeto mislenje. Eden od policajcite pocna da me pcue i mene i 
VMRO-MNM, i veruvajte se custvuvav uzhasno. Koga te pcue shiptar ne e tolku 
strasno oti znaeme deka ne ne sakaat,ama da te pcue tvoj brat e toa bilo 
pekolot. Vojvodo iskreno da ti kazzam deka imam gubeno sekakva nadez za 
nasata si sakana Makedonija. Makedonija ne postoi vekje ko drzava.Ballistite 
pravat so sakaat vo nea. Pa gledaj i nasite policajci se na nivna strana. 
Tolku za sea oti me sledat ko da sum nekoj kriminalec. Eve i vo internet 
kafe ne me ostavaat namira, pa policajci vo civil me sledat.
POzdrav i cuvaj se Vojvodo.


MACEDONIAN REVOLUTIONARY
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Reply  RE: Teshki vreminja i toa mnogo teshki ama kje pobedime!
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From: "Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet" <redacted@vmro-mnm.com>
Reply-To: <redacted@vmro-mnm.com>
To: Macedonian Revolutionary <redacted@hotmail.com>
CC: "Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet" <redacted@vmro-mnm.com>
Subject: Odgovor za golemata podrska od dobriot Makedonec na forumot bidi 
chesen pod nik Makedonec!
Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 01:55:11 +0100

Vnatresna Makedonska Revolucionerna Organizacija - Makedonija Na Makedoncite 
(VMRO-MNM)
Pretsedatel: Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet

Web sajt na VMRO-MNM: www.vmro-mnm.com
Kontakt na E-mail: TREPET redacted@vmro-mnm.com

06 Fevruari 2003 g.

Zdravo zivo brat Makeodnec,

Samo sto ja dobiv porakata so tvojata golema podrska, i sto Makedonskite 
izrodi ti go zagrozuvale tvojot privaten zivot, pa duri te povikale vo 
policajskata stanica na ispituvanje. jas morav pod itno da ti odgovoram i vo 
celosno da te podrzam za tvoeto pravo na mislenje.

Brat Makedonec, mnogo ti ze zablagodaruva toa sto go rabotes za mene i za 
Organizacijata VMRO-MNM i voedno ti se zablagodaruvam za tvojata golema 
podrska.

Naj iskreno da ti kazam deka tesko mi padna a i nervite mi gi krenaa tie 
Makedonski izrodi, predavnicki zverovi-zverski. So koj pamet tie te povikale 
vo stanica za da te ispituvat kolku komiti broi Organizacijata VMRO-MNM. Pa 
dali tie kleti dusmani predavnicki zverovi-zverski, neznaat deka nikogas 
nema da doznaat kolku komiti broi Organizacijata VMRO-MNM. A i tebe da te 
ispituvat za
povise informacii za mene i za Organizacijata VMRO-MNM. Toa sto si im go 
rekol e so vistinsko patriotsko custvo i srce. Toj zver-zverski sto ne pcuel 
i tie
drugite sto te ispitivale, dali gi znaes kako se vikat i prezivat, ako gi 
znaes da si go zapises i ke mi gi dades nevnite identiteti (isto taka da gi 
zapisuvas site makedonski izrodi koj sto tebe ti se sumlivi deka se 
makedonski izrodi), za da gi registriram vo crnata kniga na Organizacijata 
VMRO-MNM.

Eve jas vo prilog ke ti ja dostavam mojata adresa a ti da mi prakjas pismo 
so identiteti na Makedonski izrodi, predavnicki zverovi-zverski. A i vo 
slucaj ako bides povise maltretiran da me izvestis preko postansko pismo. 
Nemoj slucajno da ne me isvestuvas posto ne e dobro za tebe niti za mene 
kako i za Organizacijata VMRO-MNM, pa i za Majka Makeonija kako i za doriot, 
verniot, cesniot, realniot, napateniot, zagrozeniot i porobeniot Makedonski 
narod. Jas i Organizacijata VMRO-MNM, morame i sme dolzni da gi zastituvame 
site Makeodnci koj sto se grizat za nasata mila Majka Makedonija i za 
idninata na Makedonskiot narod.

Vo sekoj slucaj, ovo moe pismo treba da go izvadis od forumot vo nekolku 
primeroci, se razbira doklku imas finaciski sretstva, posto ne e eftino da 
se raboti preko internet, mislam za nasite Makedonci vo Majka Makedonija. 
Zborot mi bese za da se izvadi moeto pismi i da go podelis na tvoite na 
verni drugari i prijateli. Vo slucaj na zgolemuvanjete na tvojot Makedonski 
patriotizam od strana na Makedonskite izrodi, predavnicki zverovi-zverski. 
Taka da ako ti go imas podeleno moeto pismo na nekolku tvoi verni drugari i 
prijateli (koj sto se
istomislenici), koj sto oni ke mozat da me obavestat, ako nesto ti se sluci 
tebe ili na bilo koj od vas, taka da nekoj od vas ke me obavesti za povise 
informacii kako za tebe pa i za niv.

Mojata adresa e slednata:

Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet
Koppargarden 13 C
261 43 Landskrona
Svedska

Brat Makedonec, nemoj da ja gubis nadesta. Imaj strplenie i veruvaj vo 
vistinskiot i realniot Makedonski patriotizam. Nisto ne se postignuva za den 
ili edna nokj. Eve gledas i ti samiot deka vremeto i denot si doagja i za 
nas vistinskite i realnite Makedonki komiti i patrioti. Sekoj dnevno brojot 
na Makedonski komiti i patrioti raste.
Za taa tema ke diskutirame vo nasite sledni pisma......

I na kraj od moeto pismo, i ti i site Makeodnski patrioti bidte mnogo 
vnimateleni i cuvajte se od prokletite i kletite Makedonski izrodi, 
predavnicki zverovi-zverski. Se razbira deka i jas moram da se cuvam. No 
sepak mene ne mozat taka lesno da mi dojdat.....

Brat Makedonec idnino na milata ni Majka Makedonija i na Makedonskiot narod.
Sekoj Makedonec sto ke sretnes i sto ke te prasat za mene i za 
Organizacijata VMRO-MNM da gi pozdravis so bratski, komitski i patriotski 
pozdravi od mene i od
site clenovi i simpatizeri na Organizacijata VMRO-MNM.

So Makedonski bratski, komitski i patriotski pozdravi.

VECNO DA ZIVEE MAKEDONSKATA ZEMJA!

VECNO DA ZIVEE MAKEDONSKIOT NAROD!

GOSPOD DA JA BLAGOSLOVI NASATA ZEMJA MAKEDONIJA I GOSPOD DA GO BLAGOSLOVI 
NASIOT
MAKEDONSKI NAROD!

SMTR ZA SIPTARISKITE-BALISTI, TERORISTI I FASISTI!

SMRT ZA SITE ZAPADNI OKUPATORSKI CIZMARI, NACISTI, FA[ISTI, VARVARI, 
TERORISTI, BIOKRATI I FANATICI VO NASATA MILA I SAKANA TATKOVINA MAKEDONIJA!

SMTR ZA IZRODITE MAKEDONSKI PREDAVNICKI ZVEROVI-ZVERSKI!

SLOBODA ILI SMRT ZA MAKEDONSKATA DRZAVA I ZA MAKEDONSKIOT NAROD!

EDEN ZA SITE I SITE ZA EDEN!

TOA E PORAKATA OD MAKEDONSKIOT KOMITA I PATRIOT TREPET I OD SITE HRABRI 
MAKEDONSKI KOMITI, PATRIOTI I BORCI......

VECNO DA ZIVEE MAKEDONSKATA REVOLUCIONERNA ORGANIZACIJA VMRO-MNM (MAKEDONIJA 
NA
MAKEDONCITE)!

Pretsedatel Na Makedonskata Organizacija VMRO-MNM
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Marko
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(4/4/03 6:35 am)
Reply  Citaj ova VOJVODO
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Zdravo zivo Vojvodo,
so ova pismo sakam da te izvestam deka tajnite sluzbi na Udbaskata SDSM 
maltretiraat CESNI MAKEDONCI samo zatoa so tie cesni Makedonci te sakaat 
tebe za niven lider. Vojvodo UDbasite do tamu stignale so imaat svoi agenti 
i vo razno razni (Anti) Makedonski forumi, taka da ako nekoj zboruva ubo za 
tebe vednas od Moderatorite na tie (Anti) Makedonski forumi gi baraat IP 
broevite na kompjuterite i gi naogjaat tvoite simpatizeri. Vojvodo ne znaes 
kakva cenzura se vrsi protiv nas cesnite Makedonci. Vojvodo ne smeeme niz 
ulica da upotrebime tvoeto ime vednas ne prijavuvaat vo policija a tamu ne 
maltretiraat kako so gi maltretiraa cesnite Makedonci na Goli Otok. Eden moj 
drugar go skrsija od kjotek samo zatoa so vo eden koncert go velicese tvoeto 
ime i velese deka: SAMO TREPET E SPASOT ZA MAKEDONIJA. Posle toa utredenta 
go zedoa vo policiska stanica i go skrisija od cotek. Vojvodo ne mozev da go 
prepoznam kako, bidejki go imaa maltretirano mnogu. Vojvodo jas ne mozam 
povece da ti napisam bidejki se plasam da ne me prijavi nekoj vo policija.

Da zivee Makedonija
Da zivee Vojvodata Trepet
Sloboda ili Smrt


MACEDONIAN REVOLUTIONARY
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Posts: 118
(4/6/03 1:48 pm)
Reply  Brat Marko samo napred SMRT ILI SLOBODA ZA MAKEDONIJA!
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From: "Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet" <redacted@vmro-mnm.com>
Reply-To: <redacted@vmro-mnm.com>
To: "MACEDONIAN REVOLUTIONARY" <redacted@hotmail.com>
CC: "Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet" <redacted@vmro-mnm.com>
Subject: Odgovor za nasiot realen i cesen Makedonski brat Marko, sto imase 
ostaveno post na forumot Bidi Chesen so mnogo vaznite informacii !
Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2003 22:52:00 +0200

Vnatresna Makedonska Revolucionerna Organizacija - Makedonija Na Makedoncite 
(VMRO-MNM)
Pretsedatel: Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet

Web stranica na Makenskata Organizacija VMRO-MNM: www.vmro-mnm.com
Kontakti na E-mail adresa: "Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet" redacted@vmro-mnm.com

06 April 2003 g.

Zdravo zivo Marko,

Golema blagodarnost za tvojata poraka so mnogo vaznite informacii.

Brat Marko koga gi dobiv tvoite informacii i gi procitav nekolku pati. Ne da 
sum krajno revoltiran od Makedonskite izrodi, predavnickite zverovi-zverski. 
A i krajno sum razocaren i golemo sozaluvam i mnogo tesko mi padna a i 
dusata me zabole, sto nasiot realen debar i cesen brat go tortirale fizicki 
za sto ja kazal negovata realnost i vistinata. Marko naj iskreno da ti kazam 
deka seuste zivcite ne mi se smireni od koga ja procitav tvojata poraka. Toa 
e isto kako i mene da me imat fizicki tortirano, isto kako da go imate 
fizicki tortirano celiot dobar, cesen, veren i realen Makedonski narod. 
Marko relano Makedonsko momce, te molam ako imas vreme da pojdes kaj tvojot 
drugar kaj nasiot mil i drag brat i da mu kazes deka iskreno mu se 
zablagodaruvam za negovata golema podrska. I da go pozdravis od mene i od 
site clenovi i sipatizeri na Organizacijata VMRO-MNM, kako i od site nasi 
istomislenici. Jas dlaboko go zalam nasiot mil i drag brat i site nie od 
Organizacijata VMRO-MNM mu posakuvame i pozeluvame so bratski, komitski i 
patriotski hrabrosti da sto pobrgu da se oporavi od fizickata tortura i da 
si ostane i vo idnina GORD MAKEDONSKI KOMITA I PATRIOT.
Marko dali nasiot brat pobaral lekarska pomos i dali napravil sliki od 
vidlivite telesni povredi? Dali nasit brat gi znae koj se tie Makedonski 
kleti, zverovi, zlocinci i dusmani sto go imat fizicki maceno-tortirano?

Makedonskite zlocinci, dusmani, izrodi, predavnicki zverovi-zverski gi 
projdoa site granici. Jas im vetuvam i im garantiram na site dobri, cesni, 
realni, napateni, zagrozeni i porobeni brakja i sestri Makedonki i 
Makedonci, deka site tie kleti, zlocinci, dusmani, predavnicki 
zverovi-zverski od Makedonci rod, ke bidat eden den strogo kazneti i debelo 
ke platat za nivnite dusmanski i zverski zlostorstva sto go imat storeno na 
dobriot, verniot, cesniot, realniot, zagrozeniot, napateniot i porobeniot 
Makedonski narod.....

Marko vo pravo si deka anti makedoncite, zverovite, krvnicite, zlocincite i 
kletite dusmani od Makedonski rod imat svoi agenti po anti makedonskite 
forumi. Tie imat masivno na nivni agenti, spijuni, zagari i kruriri po site 
taka nareceni Makedonski forumi i posiroko. Ne samo sto moderatorite i 
administratorite se nivni plateni agenti, spiuni, kuriri i zagari. Nego tie 
zlicinci i izrodi Makedonski imat i na masivno plateni agenti, spiuni, 
kuriri i zagari sto pisuvat vo anti makedonskite forumi (taka nareceni 
makeodnski avtori). I toa e tocno deka na Makedonskite golemi izrodi, so 
nivnite agentite, spijunite, kuririte i zagarite imenovani i anonimni 
administratori i moderatori na anti makedonskite forumi gi barat IP broevite 
na kompjuterite i gi otkrivat moite simpatizeri, tie anonimni moderatori i 
administratori se specijalno nauceni i istrenirani kako da gi otkrivat site 
moi sipatizeri i istomislenici. Pa zatoa jas mnogo sum vnimatelen so 
pustanje na clenovite od Organizacijata VMRO-MNM za da pisuvat vo tie anti 
makedonski i zlocinski forumi. Pa zatoa jas so nekolku moi komiti i patrioti 
za internet koristime eden kompjuter.... Zatoa jas i gubam masivna podrska 
od Makedoncite koj sto sakat da bidat clenovi vo Organizacijata VMRO-MNM 
isto taka i za moi sipatizeri i istomislenici. No sepak jas ne se predavam 
na takvite zagubi. Jas veruvam i sum ubeden deka site tie dobri, verni, 
cesni, realni, zagrozeni, napateni i porobeni brakja i sestri Makedonki i 
Makedonci ke se odlucat so nivnite pozitivni mislenja i ke bidat moi 
sipatizeri i istomislenici a i ke zastanat vo moja pozadina za da site 
zaedno rabotime i da se borime za dobroto na nasata ni mila i sakana 
tatkovina Makedonija i za Makedonskiot narod. Site zaedno da rabotime i da 
se borime da gi zastituvame Makedonskite nacionalni interesi. Site zaedno da 
rabotime i da se borime za obedinuvanje na Makedonskata rasparcena zemja i 
za obedinuvanje na zagrozeniot i porobeniot Makedonski narod. I site 
edinstveno da rabotime za stabilna i napredna idnina na nasata ni mila i 
sakana Majka Makedonija i za Makeodnskiot narod. Site zaedno da rabotime i 
da se borime za da gi unistime zverovite, zlocincite i kletite dusmani od 
Makeodnski rod (Makedonskite izrodi, predavnicki zverovi-zverski). Site 
zaedno da rabotime i da se borime (EDEN ZA SITE I SITE ZA EDEN), za da go 
istrbime ovo gnasno, ekstremisticko, nacisticko, fasisticko, teroristicko, 
psihopatsko, sizofrenicarsko i mafijasko banditsko sipatrko pleme od 
Makedonskata zemja. Da gi projnajdeme i apsime site siptarski ekstremisti, 
nacisti, fasisti, pedofili, psihopati, sizofrenicari, terorist i mafijaski 
banditi sto ima praveno dusmanski zlostorstva na Makedonskio narod i da Agi 
UNISTIME-ELIMINIRAME za sekogas. Site zaedno da rabotime i da se borime za 
da gi kaznime site neprijateli i dusmani na Makedonskiot narod. Da gi 
kaznime golemite mafijaski banditi sto go pljackaa ogromnoto bogatsvo na 
nasata ni bogata Makedonska zemja i na Makedonskiot narod.

Marko mnogo sum revoltiran od katastrofalnite sostojbi vo Vardarskiot del na 
Makedonija. Naj verovatno i ti znaes. Pred nekoj den doznav deka grupa na 
siptarski ekstremisti, nacisti, fasisti, psihopati, sizofrenicari, teroristi 
i mafijaski banditi vo Skopje, vlegle vo avtobus i fizicki gi napadnale 
nasite Makedoncinja srednoskolci koga si odele doma. Nasite mladi 
srednoskolci bile napadnati i fizicki tepani i toa so kloci, boksovi, lanci, 
zelezni-celicni sipki i dr tvrdi predmeti a vo avtobusot se navagjale i 
trojca policajci koj sto ni so prst ne pomrdnale. Pa zatoa nisto da ne ne 
cudi sto anti makedonskata i siptaro balistickata policija gi maltretirat i 
tepat moite simpatizeri. Tie pocnaa da maltretirat i tepat sve sto se 
Makedonci, se razbira ne gi tepat i ne gi maltretirat samo anti makedoncite 
od makeodnski rod. Jas ovo go deklariram, odnosno go smatram za totalna 
okupacija i robstvo na Vardarskiot del na Makedonija i dobriot, verniot, 
cesniot, realniot, napateniot i zagrozeniot Makedonski narod se naogja vo 
racete i vo robstvo na Makeodnskite izrodi, predavnicki zverovi-zverski i na 
nadvoresnite neprijateli i dusmani na Makedonskiot narod.

Marko jas te razbiram deka nemozes povise da mi pisuvas. I treba da se cuvas 
i da bides mnogo vnimatelen. No sepak ti morase na nekoj naci da mi gi 
preneses vaznite informacii. Makeodnskite izrodi, predavnickite 
zverovi-zverski i nadvorsnite zlocinski dusmani na Makedonskiot narod gi 
imat organizirano vo nivnite tajni i spijunski sluzbi masivno na spijuni i 
na agenti za da gi otkrivat dobrite, cesnite, realnite, serioznite i gordite 
Makedonski komiti i patrioti. Momentalno vo ovo vreme nema druga Makedonska 
nacionalna, revolucionerna, komitska i patriotska organizacija. Makedonskiot 
narod i Majka Makedonija ja ima samo edinstvenata Makeodnska nacionalna, 
revolucionerna, komitska i patriotska Organmizacija VMRO-MNM (Makeodnija Na 
Makedoncite). I zatoa golemite vnatresni i nadvoresni neprijateli i 
zlocinski dusmani na Makedonskiot narod se spremni, odnosno teski miljoni (a 
nisto ne me cudi ako ne se i nekolku miljardi) dolari i evra se investirat 
za da gi otkrivat i apsat moite sipatizeri i istomislenici, kako i clenovite 
na Organizacijata VMRO-MNM (Makedonija Na Makedoncite). Sepak tie dobri, 
verni, cesni, realni i gordi Makedonci ne smeeat da si dozvolat da im 
podlegnat i da im se plasat na zakanite, maltretiranjeto i fizickite torturi 
od vnatresnite i nadovoresnite zlocinski dusmani. Naprotiv treba da bideme 
pohrabri i da izdrzime na bilo kavi zakani, provokacii, maltretiranja i 
fizicki macenja-torturi. Ako pocneme da im se plasime togas nisto ne ke 
mozeme da storime za nasata ni mila i sakana porobena Majka Makeodnija i za 
napateniot i porobeniot Makedonski narod. Sega veke krajno vreme da site 
dobri, verni, cesni, realni, napateni, zagrozeni i porobeni Makedonci da se 
probudat i da go frlat teskiot kamen sto go nosele so decenii na svoite 
ramenici i da samite da go ponistat toj vekovni strav sto go nesele vo 
svoite tela..... Naj vazno e da site dobri, verni, cesni, realni, gordi i 
hrabri Makedonski komiti, patrioti i boci da se probudat i osvestat. I da 
pocnat so masivno prijavuvanje vo redovite na Organizacijata VMRO-MNM. I da 
jas donesam odluka za treta Makedonska revolucionerna, komitska i patriotska 
sredba. No taa treta sredba treba da bide plodna i uspesna, so dosta 
seriozni, verni, cesni i realni Makedonski komiti i patrioti. A ne da bide 
kako moite predhodni dve neuspesni sredbi, so poveketo od tie "komiti i 
patrioti" se pokazaa straslivci (kukaviski), a i od niv imase i spijuni, 
agenti, kuriri i zagari sto se plateni od vnatresnite i nadvoresnite 
neprijateli, zverski, krvnicki i zlocinski dusmani na Makedonskiot narod.

Marko ke se zadrzam uste malku za tvoeto izvestuvanje vo vrska so 
(udbasite), prokletite zverovi-zverski, krvnici, zlocinci, dusmanite, 
psihopatite, sizofrenicarite, pedofilite i mafijaskite banditi od 
organizacijata "sdsm"-sizofrenicarska. Deka Maltretirale nasi cesni brakja i 
sestri Makedonki i Makedonci samo zatoa sto tie cesni Makedonci me sakale 
mene za nivni lider.
Marko jas mozam naj iskreno da se gordeam so takvi dobri, verni, cesni, 
realni i gordi Makedonci sto mi ja davat nivnata celosna podrska i sto me 
sakat za da bidam nivni lider. Naj iskreno im isprakja bratski, komitski i 
patriotski pozdravi i naj iskreno da im kazam deka gordo ke rabotam i cvrsto 
ke se boram za takvi dobri, verni, cesni, realni i gordi Makedonci.

Marko za ponatamosni informacii, potrudi se da ne go koristis tvjot domasen 
kompjuter, nego koristi kopjuteri koj sto ne ke mozat da te znaat koj si. 
Isto taka da im kazes na site tvoi drugari i na cesnite Makedonci koga 
zboruvas za men.... Isto taka za informaciite potrudite se da mi gi prakjate 
informaciite i na mojata E-mail adresa redacted@vmro-mnm.com iako i mojata 
E-mail adresa kako i drugite E-mail adresi na Organizacijata VMRO-MNM pred 
nie da gi otvorime, se citat i kopirat od stranskite i vnatresnite spijunski 
tajni sluzmi.

Marko tolku sega za sega od mene i do citanje.

So Makedonski bratski, komitski i patriotski pozdravi do site dobri, verni, 
cesni, realni i gordi brakja i sestri Makedonki i Makedonci, od site nas 
komitite i patriotite od Organizacijata VMRO-MNM (Makedonija Na 
Makedoncite).

VECNO DA ZIVEE MAKEDONSKATA ZEMJA!

VECNO DA ZIVEE MAKEDONSKIOT NAROD!

GOSPOD DA JA BLAGOSLOVI NASATA ZEMJA MAKEDONIJA I GOSPOD DA GO BLAGOSLOVI 
NASIOT MAKEDONSKI NAROD!

SMRT ZA SIPTARISKITE-BALISTI, TERORISTI I FASISTI!

SMRT ZA SITE ZAPADNI OKUPATORSKI CIZMARI, NACISTI, FASISTI, VARVARI, 
TERORISTI, BIOKRATI I FANATICI VO NASATA MILA I SAKANA TATKOVINA MAKEDONIJA!

SMRT ZA IZRODITE MAKEDONSKI PREDAVNICKI ZVEROVI-ZVERSKI !

SLOBODA ILI SMRT ZA MAKEDONSKATA DRZAVA I ZA MAKEDONSKIOT NAROD !

EDEN ZA SITE I SITE ZA EDEN!

TOA E PORAKATA OD MAKEDONSKIOT KOMITA I PATRIOT TREPET I OD SITE HRABRI 
MAKEDONSKI KOMITI, PATRIOTI I BORCI......

VECNO DA ZIVEE MAKEDONSKATA REVOLUCIONERNA ORGANIZACIJA VMRO-MNM (MAKEDONIJA 
NA MAKEDONCITE)!

JAS SUM MAKEDONEC A NE FYROMEC!

NIE SME MAKEDONCI A NE FYROMCI!

MAKEDONIJA NA MAKEDONCITE!

Pretsedatel Na Makedonskata Organizacija VMRO-MNM
Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet


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Marko
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Vojvodo ovde vo Makedonija se vrsi opasna propaganda deka vie ste spiun na 
CIA. Sakam da ve izvestam deka i tie komiti so vi bea verni imaat strav da 
stapat vo kontakt so vas, bidejci se plasat za svojata sudbina i sudbinata 
na napateniot Makedonski narod. Vojvodo starite luge velat deka ova vreme e 
kako onaa posle Vtorata Svetska Vojna koga vistinskite Makedoncite bea 
prikazani kako predavnici i koga cesnite Makedonci kako Cento bile izolirani 
od javnosta.

Vojvodo istoto se pravi i protiv vas bidejki vie ste vtor Cento za 
Makedonija, zatoa Vojvodo cuvaj se. Jas navistina moram da prekinam bidejki 
ovde e navistina mnogu opasno da se spomne tvoeto ime.

da zievee OBEDINETA MAKEDONIJA
da zivee Vojvodata TREPET


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Posts: 129
(5/4/03 11:44 am)
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Vnatresna Makedonska Revolucionerna Organizacija-Makedonija Na Makedoncite 
(VMRO-MNM)
Pretsedatel: Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet

Kontakt na privremena E-mail adresa:
"Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet" redacted@hotmail.com

4 Maj 2003 g.

Zdravo zivo hrabar i gord Makedonski patriot Marko,

Marko golema blagodarnost za tvojata informacija i voedno da ti se 
zablagodaram za tvojata golema podrska.

Kako prvo: Ovie golemi i lazni propagandi kon mene deka jas sum spijun na 
amerikanskata nacisticka, fasiticka i varvarska organizacija cia. Toa sto se 
zboruva vo Vardarskiot del na Makedonija a i po drugi anti makedonski forumi 
sto se objavuvat se lazni propagandi i spekulacii. Makedonskite izrodi, 
predavnicki zverovi-zverski so nivnite agenti, spijuni, kuriri i zagarcinja 
se pusteni za da propagirat lagi i da mi stvarat problemi a i da gi ubeduvat 
Makedonskite komiti i patrioti i dobrite, vernite, cesnite, realnite, 
napatenite, zagrozenite i porobenite Makedonsci deka jas sum covek na cia. 
Toa ne samo da se lazni propagandi i spekulacii nego se i kukavicki 
obvinuvanja kon mene. Ako jas sum "covek ili spijun" na amerikanskata 
nacisticka, fasisticka i varvarska organizcija cia. Zosto tie "hrabri" anti 
makedonci od makedonski rod i Makeodnskite izrodi, predavnicki 
zverovi-zverski ne go objavat toj dokument (faktot) vo nivnite mediumi i toa 
da bide objaven dokumentot so koj luge od cia jas sorabotuvam. Ako jas sum 
spijun na cia, togas jas sum "dobar prijatel i sorabotnik" tokmu so 
vistinskite pleteni agenti, spijuni, kuriri i zagari na cia od i so 
Makeodnskite izrodi, predavnicki zverovi-zverski i so siptarskite 
ekstremisti, nacisti, fasisti, pedofili, psihopati, sizofrenicari, teroristi 
i mafijaski banditi.
Ako jas sum spijun na cia. Dosega Organizacijata VMRO-MNM ke imase svoi 
vojni tereni vo Vardarskiot del na Makedonija so nekolku iljadi borci i 
dobro naoruzani i to naoruzani do zabi i finaciski finasirani od 
amerikanskata nacisticka, fasisticka i varvarska organizacija cia. Isto kako 
sto se siptarskite teroristicki organizacii so nekolku teroristicki tereni i 
so iljadnici siptarski teroristi vo Vardarskiot del na Makedonija i 
naoruzani do zabi i pomgnati so site materijalni sretstva (Kako i so 
finaciski pomognati) od amerikanskata nacisticka, fasisticka i varvarska 
organizacija cia. A isto tka siptarskite ekstremisti, nacisti, fasisti, 
pedofili, psihopati, sizofrenicari, teroristi, i mafijaski banditi se 
podrzani i pomogneti so site materijalni sretstva od celiot zapadni 
diktatorski, nacisticki, fasisticki, varvarski rezim.
I toa da kazam. Za eden dobar, veren, cesen, realen i gord Makedonski komita 
licno bogatstvo ne e vazno. Makedonski vistinski komita ne se bogati na 
racun na Makedonskiot narod i na racun na Makedonskite komiti i patrioti. 
Ako jas sum spijun na cia, jas bi imal luksuzni vili vo nekolku zemji i vo 
Vardarskiot del na Makedonija. A jas takov luksuz nemam niti takvo gnasno 
bogatstvo nemam, kako sto imat golemite Makedonski izrodi, predavnicki 
zverovi-zverski Kiro Gligorov-Vampirot, Boris Trajkovski-Vladikata, Ljubco 
Georgievski-Narkomanot, Branko Crvenkovski-Kostaplerot, Stojan 
Andov-Mafijasot i mnogo drugi kako niv.

Kako vtoro: Marko hrabar Makedonski patriota. Ako slucajno tie Makeodnski 
komiti i patrioti sto mi se bile verni i im podlegnat na laznite propagandi 
i spekulacii na Makeodnskite izrodi, predavnicki zverovi-zverski. Togas 
nasite, odnosno moite istomislenici (I Site drugi Makedonski komiti i 
patrioti) ke bidat so golemi greski. Taka da mnogo ke pogresat site 
Makedonski komiti i patrioti a i site dobri, verni, cesni, realni, napateni, 
zagrozeni i porobeni Makedonci ako im poveruvat na Makedonskite izrodi, 
predavnicki zverovi-zverski. Zar Makedonskiot narod seuste im veruva na ovi 
prokleti zverovi, zlocinci, dusmani, krvopici, izrodi od Makedonski rod. Zar 
seuste Makedonskiot narod ne gi svati i ne gi procitaa golemite Makedonski 
izrodi, prdavnicki zverovi-zverski od taka narecenite makedonski politcki 
partii i organizacii deka gi lazea i seuste gi lazat a isto taka im gi perat 
mozocite na Makedonskio narod.

Kako treto: Sto se raboti za zborenjeto na postarite Makedonci deka ovo 
vreme e kako posle vtorata svetska vojna. Mnogo se vo pravo tie stari 
Makedonci. I jas go velam toa deka e i beter deneska od koku togas. Posle 
vtorata svetska vijna. Diktatorskiot i komunistickiot rezim na tito so 
negovite agenti i spijuni od Makedonski rod bese mnogo tezok i opasen za 
vistinskite, realnite, cesnite, vernite i gordite Makedonski komiti i 
patrioti, a naj opasen i tezok rezim bil za golemite vodaci na Makedonskite 
komiti i patrioti kao sto e bil Makeodnskiot Vojvoda Metoija Andonov-Cento. 
Istoto i deneska se slucuva so Makedonskite komiti i patrioti, se apsat i se 
zatvarat vo zlocinskite i dusmanskite temni zatvori (zandani) i tuka se 
zverski, zlocinski, krvnicki i dusmanski tortirat tie nasi Makedonski braka 
komiti i patrioti, se razbira od Makedonskite izrodi, predavnicki 
zverovi-zverski i od siptarskite ekstremisticki, zlocinski i dusmanski 
krvnici. Ova katastrofa sto e vo nasiot mil i sakan Vardarski del na 
Makedonija e pobeteri i od turskoto robstvo. A i ova katastrofalna ekonomska 
i socijalna beda vo Vardarskiot del na Makedonija e beteri od ekonomskite 
sankcii sto bea dadeni na srbija i na irak.
Sto se raboti za izolacija na vistinskite, cesnite, realnite, dobrite i 
gordite Makedonski komiti i patrioti od vnatresanata i nadvoresnata javnost 
e isto tka golema katastrofa za site dobri, verni, cesni, realni, napateni, 
zagrozeni i porobeni Makedonci. A naj vise e opasno za mene sto jas kako 
pretsedatel na VNATRESNA MAKEDONSKA REVOLUCIONERNA ORGANIZACIJA - MAKEDONIJA 
NA MAKEDONCITE (VMRO-MNM). Sum totalno izoliran od vnatresnata i 
nadvoresnata javnost. Zatoa vnatresnite i nadvoresnite zverski, zlocinski, 
krvnicki dusmani ja zatvorija naj golemata i na vistinskata Makedonska 
komitska i patriotska Web stranica www.vmro-mnm.com. Za da mozat po slobodno 
da stvarat zversko etnicko cistenje i zverski genocid nad Makedonskiot narod 
vo zapadniot del na Vardarskiot del na Makedonija i za da sto pobrgu go 
podelat Vardarskiot del na Makedonija. Jas ne veruvam deka samo siptarskite 
teroristicki i mafijaski banditski organizacii i Makedonskite predavnicki i 
mafijo banditska organizacija "sdsm"-sizofrenicarska i 
"dpmne"-sizofrenicarska se izmesani so afreata za zatvaranje na Web 
stranicata na Organizacihjata VMRO-MNM. Jas veruvam i sum ubeden deka tuka 
se izmesani i zapadnite politicki faktori, diktatori i fanatici, so nivnite 
taka nareceni organizacii (asosijacii i institucii) za covekovi prava. Vo 
tie recenici ke ja spomnam i amerikansakta nacisticka, fasisticka i 
varvarska organizacija cia. Ako jas sum "covek ili spijun na cia. Togas 
Makedonskiot narod i Makeodnskite komiti i patrioti mozat slobodno da si 
svatat i da bidat ubedeni deka toa se lagi. Za da bidem jas "spijun" na cia, 
pa veruvajte mi moj Makedonski narode deka Web stranicata na Organizacijata 
VMRO-MNM nikogas nema da se zatvori i nikoj na ovaj vet, niti bilo koja 
organizacija ili politicki faktori i fanatici nema da bidat tolku mokjeni da 
ja zatvori taa Web stranica na Makedonskata komitska i patriotska 
rganizacija VMRO-MNM.
Mediumsko ignoriranje i izoliranje (za javnosta) kako od taka narecenite 
Makedonski mediumi taka i od svetskite mediumi e jasna slika i dokazen fakt 
i cin deka imat starav od mene i od Organizacijata VMRO-MNM. Kako tie 
vnatresnite i nadvoresnite zverski, zlocinski, krvnicki dusmani i 
neprijateli se jako organizirani za da mi naskodat i da me unistat mene i da 
i naskodat i da ja unistat Makedonskata komitska i patriotska organizacija 
VMRO-MNM. So aferata na zatvaranjeto na Web stranicata na Makedonskata 
komitska i patriotska organizacija VMRO-MNM. Ne bese objaveno nite vo eden 
medium iako site taka nareceni Makedonski mediumi ja dobiaj mojata izjava i 
apelot do Makedonskiot narod. So toa se dokazaa tie taka nareceni Makedonski 
mediumi kolku i kakvi Makedonski mediumi se. Za srekja sto ima internet 
forumi i knogi za gosti, taka da na nekolku forumi i knigi za gosti ja 
objavivme mojata izjava i apelot do Makeodnskiot narod za Web satranicata. 
Na nekolku taka nareceni Makedonski forumi izjavat moja za saat ili dava 
bese mojata izjava izbrisena. A na nekolku od taka narecenite Makeodnski 
forumi duri nemame ni pristam, ne mozeme da gi otvorime ni za da citame a 
kamoli da pisuvame. Naprimer da go spomnam Anti makedonskiot 
srbokomunistickiot-cetnickiot i azitsko mongolskiot tatarski forum 
www.ajvarforum.com.mk/forum/default.asp nemat nikaov pristap na toj forum. 
Na toj ajvarforum pisuvat samo agentite, spijunite, kuririte zagarite, 
clenovite, sipatizerite i istomislenicite na golemite unistuvacki i mafijo 
banditskite organizacii "sdsm"-sizofrenicarska i "dpmne"-sizofrenicarska. A 
pisuvat i ponekoj zaguleni provokatorski prepiski od siptarskite balisti i 
azijatsko mingolskite tatari.

Makedonski hrabar patriot Marko. Jas se cuvam i ke se potrudam da se cuvam i 
vo idnina. Jas suste ne sakam da bidam ubien od Makeodnskite prokleti, 
krvnici, zlocinci, zverovi i predavnici a i od nadvoresnite Makedonski krvni 
i zlocinski dusmanski neprijateli. Jas sakam uste da da rabotam i da se 
boram za obedineta Makedonska zemja i za spas i sloboda na dobriot, verniot, 
cesniot, realniot, zagrozeniot, napateniot i porobeniot Makedonski narod.

Deneska e 4 Maj 2003 godin. Deneska se odbelezuva 100-godisnata 
(100-godisniot den) od ubistvoto na Goce Delcev-Velikanot na eden od naj 
golemite MAKEDONSKI SINOVI, DEJCI, REVOLUCIONERI, VOJVODI I IDEOLOZI ZA 
OSLOBODITELNOTO DVIZENJE NA MAKEDONSKATA ZEMJA I NA MAKEODNSKIOT NAROD OD 
TURSKOTO ROBSTVO. VECNA DA MU E SLAVA NA NASIOT MAKEDONSKI SIN I VOJVODA 
Goce Delcev-Velikanot i za sekogas ke zivee i so gordost i pocit ke go 
nosime ngovoto ime i negovoto vojvodstvo vo nasite Makedonski srca.

Vo ovo moe pismo sakam da ipratam idna porak do site MAKEDONSKI KOMITI I 
PATRIOTI.
Braka Makedonski komiti i patrioti. Nemojte da im veruvate na Makedonskite 
izrodi, predavnicki zverovi-zverski so nivnite golemi lazni propagandi i 
spekulacii. Toa ne e vistina, veruvajte vo mene i vo mojot Makedonski 
komitski i patriotski duh. Jas ne sum ucesni so potpisuvnjeto na prokletiot, 
gnasniot i unistivackiot ramkoven dogovor. Jas ne sum ucesnik so 
(ispraznuvanjeto) i davanjeto na rezervite od nafta i benzin na siptarskite 
ekstremisticki, nacisticki, fasisticki, pedofilski, psihopatski, 
sizofrenicarski, treoeristicki i mafijo banditski organizacii. Kako davanje 
na Makedonska teritorija da si pravat siptarskite provokatori i ubici 
teroristicki "voeni" tereni i poligoni za vezbanje. Jas ne sum ucesnik sto 
se dozvoluva siptarkiot satanski i prokleti crn i dvokglaveni orlovi da se 
na visoko vjat vo Makedonska teritorija. Jas ne sum ucesnik sto na 
siptarskite ekstremisti, nacisti, fasisti, teroriti i ubici sto im se 
dozvoluva da registrirat nivni teroristicki organizacii kako politicki 
partii i da sedat vo anti makedonskata vlada i parlament. Jas ne sum ucesnik 
sto se dozvoli da se zbori na siptarsko balisticki jazik vo anti 
makedonskiot i mafijoaskiot banditski parlament. Jas ne sum ucesnik sto se 
dozvoli da siptarskiot balisticki jazik da stoi kako oficijalen jazik vo 
Vardarskiot del na Makedonija i da se zapisi na Makedonskite dokumenti. Jas 
ne sum ucesnik sto nasite Makedoncinja vo taka narecenata "arm" dobivat 
razni bolesti kako naprimer nedoamna nasi mladi Makedoncina vo taa anti 
makeodnska i siptaro balisticka "arm" dobja vo nekolku kazarni zaraza so 
boles na suga. Jas ne sum ucesni sto siptarskite balisti, teroristi i ubici 
dobja za diplomatski ambasadori i konzuli vo taka narecenite Makedonski 
diplomatski pristavnistva. Jas ne sum ucesnik sto na siptarskite balisti, 
teroristi i ubici sto ime dozvoluva da gi prezemuvat direktorskite funkcii 
vo Arhivata na Makedonija i na mnogo drugi mesta. Jas ne sum ucesni sto na 
lekar od kosovo i metohia mu se dade direktorska funkcija vo naj golemata 
Skopska bolnica Ginekolgija vo naselbata cair i koj sto e toj ekstremist 
clen na siptarskata ekstremisticka, nacisticka, fasisticka, psihopatska, 
pedofilska, sizofrenicarska, teroristicka i mafijo banditska organizacija 
"dui". Jas nesu ucesni za izvrsuvanjeto i seuste se pravi zversko i 
dusmansko etnicko cistenje i zverski i dusmanski genocid na Makedonskiot 
narod vo zapadniot del na Vardarskiot del na Makedonija od strana na 
sipatrskite ekstremisti, nacisti, fasisti, teroristi i mafijaski banditi. 
Isto taka jas ne sum ucesnik so kidnapiranjeto na cedata na Majka 
Makedonija, na nasite braka i sestri Makedonki i Makedonci od strana na 
siptarskite ekstremisti, nacisti, fasisti, teroristi i mafijaski banditi. 
Jas ne sum ucesnik sto Makedonskiot narod ne gi dobiva svoite mesecni plati 
nego nivnite mesecni plati se se podeluvat na siptarskite ekstremisti, 
nacisti, fasisti, teroristi i mafijaski banditi i na Makedonskite izrodi, 
predavnicki zverovi-zverski. Jas ne su ucesnik sto Makedonskiot narod zivee 
vo katastrofalna ekonomska i socijalna bedea, koj sto e beter od ekonomskite 
sankcii sto zapadniot svet i anti demokratskata organizacija OON gi dava na 
pedini zemji (kako sto gi imaa ekonomskite sakncii srbija i irak). Jas ne 
sum ucesnik sto ogromnoto bogatsvto na Vardarskiot del na Makedonija i na 
Makedonskiot narod se pljacka od zapadnite diktatori, fanatici, nacisti, 
fasisti, varvari, teroristi, pedofili, psihopati, sizofrenicari i biokratski 
banditski kriminalci. Jas ne sum ucesnik sto na Makedonski nrado vo nekoi 
sela kaj sto ziveeat samo Makedonci im se isklucivat struite i se dava na 
siptarskoto gadno i zasmrdeno ekstremisticko, nacisticko i fasisticko pleme. 
Jas ne sum ucesnik sto na nekolku reszervari (vodovodi) so voda sto se 
upotrebuva za pienje vo selata kaj sto se samo Makedonci i im se zagaduvat 
od strana na siptarskite ekstremisti, nacisti, fasisti, psihopati, 
sizofrenicari, teroristi i mafijaski banditi. Za tie nekolku vazni i golemi 
katastrofi sto gi nabroiv se ucesnici Makedonskite izrodi, predavnicki 
zverovi-zverski, clenovite i rakovotsvata na i od taka narecenite 
"makedonski politicki partii i organizacii". Isto taka se ucesnici zapadnite 
diktatori, nacisti, fasisti, varvari, fanatici, pedofili, psihopati, 
sizofrenicari, teroristi i biokratskite mafijaski banditi.

Braka Makedonski komiti i patrioti. Vardarskiot del na Makedonija e na 
pragot, cekor do podelba i cekor do unistuvanjeto na Makedonskiot identitet 
(cekor do unistuvanjeto na Makedonskata nacija). Nie Makedonskite komiti i 
patrioti nemame vreme za gubenje i nasata mila i sakana porobena tatkovina 
Makeodnija i nasiot dobar, veren, cesen, realen, napaten, zagrozen i poroben 
Makedonski narod nema vreme i nemoze vise da cekan i da strada i da bide 
zverski, dusmanski ubivan, masakriran, maltretiran i fizicki tortiran od 
Makeodnskite izrodi, predavnicki zverovi-zverski, od siptarskoto gnasno i 
zasmrdeno ekstremisticko, nacisticki, fasisticko, pedofilsko, psihopatski, 
sizofrenicarsko, teroristicko i mafijasko banditsko pleme. Kako i od 
zapdniot diktatorski, nacisticki, fasisticki, varvarski, teroristicki, 
agresorski, i bikratski mafijo banditski rezim.
Vereme e moi braka Makedonski komiti i patrioti da se prijavuvate vo 
redovite na edinstvenata nacionalna, komitska i patriotska Makedonskata 
Organizacija VMRO-MNM. Vreme da mi ja dadete vasdata celosna podrska i vreme 
e da da zastanete vo moja pozadina i da se pocne so seriozni akcii i 
opreacii za borba za osloboduvanje i obedinuvanje na Makeodnskata porobena 
zemja i za spas i sloboda na napateniot, zagrozeniot i porobeniot Makedonski 
narod.
Ideata na golemiot zver, zlocinec, krvnik i dusman na Makedonskiot narod 
Ljubco Georgievski-Narkomanot za etnicki cisti drzava (Za podelba na 
Vardarskiot del na Makedonija), ne bese direktno negova idea. Taa idea e 
izmislena i naredena od golemite Makedonski zlocinski i dusmanski 
neprijateli, od agresorite i okupatorit od Wasinkton, brusel, london, paris, 
bon, rim, atina, belgrad, sofija i od tirana.
Samo sto Ljubco Georgievski-Nrakomanot e dosta mokjen i ima podrska od 
nkolku stotina ilijadi Makedonci pa zatoa toj go odbraa kako hrabar 
predavnik da ja kaze javno ideata za podelba na Vardarskiot del na 
Makedonija i da se napravat etnicki drzavi od Makedonskata zemja so etnicko 
cistenje na Makedonski narod.
Taka da moie braka Makedonski komiti i patrioti razmislite i toa zdravo da 
razimislite sto go ceka i kakvo zversko, zloconsko i dusmansko etnicko 
cistenie i zverski, zlocinski i dusmanski genocod ke doceka i ke dozivee toj 
napaten, zagrozen i poroben Makedonski narod Makedonskiot narod. Jas ostavam 
da vie razmislite i da mi kazete dali sum vo pravo ili mnogo gresam. Posto 
jas nikogas ne sum pogresil niti gresam sto se odnesuva za DREVNA MAKEDONIJA 
I ZA DREVNIOT MAKEDONSKI NAROD. Sve predhodno, sto sum rekol ispadnalo taka 
i sve vo idnina sto ke recam ke ispadne taka kako sto vi velam, posto imam 
golemi custtva deka Makedonskiot narod ke strada i povise nego sto e stradal 
i patel vo turskoto ropstvo. Eve i ovo da vi kazam deka edna od taka 
narecenite siptarski balisticki "partii dpa" so nivnite tatka nareceni 
"gradonacalnici" vo Vardarskiot del na Makedonija delat voeni uniformi na 
nivnite siptarski gadni, gnasni, zasmrdeni, ekstremisti, nacisti, fasisti, 
pedofili, psihopati, sizofrenicari, teroristi i mafijo baditi. Koj sto se 
spremat javno da pocnat i toa na golemo zversko, zlocinsko i dusmansko 
etnicko cistenje i zverski, zlocinski i dusmanski genocid na Makedonski 
narod vo zapadniot del na Vardarskiot del na Makedonija.

Braka i sestri Makedonki i Makedonci mnogo ke zalite ako ne me poslusate i 
ako ne mi ja dadete vasata celosna podrska. Istoto vazi za Makedonskite 
komiti i patrioti, ako vo naj skoro vreme ne se prijavite vo redovite na naj 
vistinskata i edinstvenata Makedonska nacionalna, revolucionerna, komitska i 
patriotska organizacija VMRO-MNM (Makedonija Na Makedoncite). I vie ke 
zalite sto na vreme ne me poslusavte i ne zastanavte vo moja pozadina.

Isprakjam Makedonski bratski, komitski i patriotski pozdravi do site dobri, 
cesni, verni, realni, gordi, napateni, zagrozeni i porobeni Makedonci.

P.S. A so tebe gord i hrabar Makeodnski patriot Marko se gordeam sto si 
tolku hrabar, cesen i realen Makedonski patriot a i vistinski VMRO-VEC SI. 
Samo nastavi tak i vo idnina so tvoite hrabrosti. I ke dojde den koga ti ke 
bides golem Makedonec i ke imas golema politicka funkcija.

VECNO DA ZIVEE MAKEDONSKATA ZEMJA!

VECNO DA ZIVEE DORIOT MAKEDONSKI NAROD!

GOSPOD DA JA BLAGOSLOVI NASATA ZEMJA MAKEDONIJA I GOSPOD DA GO BLAGOSLOVI 
NASIOT MAKEDONSKI NAROD!

SMRT ZA SIPTARISKITE-BALISTI, TERORISTI I FASISTI!

SMRT ZA SITE ZAPADNI OKUPATORSKI CIZMARI, NACISTI, FASISTI, VARVARI, 
TERORISTI, BIOKRATI I FANATICI VO NASATA MILA I SAKANA TATKOVINA MAKEDONIJA!

SMTR ZA IZRODITE MAKEDONSKI PREDAVNICKI ZVEROVI-ZVERSKI!

SLOBODA ILI SMRT ZA MAKEDONSKATA DRZAVA I ZA MAKEDONSKIOT NAROD!

EDEN ZA SITE I SITE ZA EDEN!

TOA E PORAKATA OD MAKEDONSKIOT KOMITA I PATRIOT TREPET I OD SITE 
HRABRIMAKEDONSKI KOMITI, PATRIOTI I BORCI......

VECNO DA ZIVEE MAKEDONSKATA REVOLUCIONERNA ORGANIZACIJA VMRO-MNM (MAKEDONIJA 
NA MAKEDONCITE)!

JAS SUM MAKEDONEC A NE FYROMEC!

NIE SME MAKEDONCI A NE FYROMCI!

MAKEDONIJA NA MAKEDONCITE!


Pretsedatel Na Makedonskata Organizacija VMRO-MNM
Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet


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From: "Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet" <redacted@hotmail.com>
To: redacted@hotmail.com
Subject: Uspesna siptarska-balisticka blokada na patot kon Makedonskoto selo 
Vejce!
Date: Sun, 11 May 2003 19:40:48 +0000

Vnatre{na Makedonska Revolucionerna Organizacija - Makedonija Na Makedoncite 
(VMRO-MNM)
Pretsedatel: Qup~o Mir~evski-Trepet

Kontakt na privremena E-mail adresa:
"Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet" redacted@hotmail.com

11 Maj 2003 g.

Po~ituvani braka i sestri Makedonki i Makedonci!

Na den 10 Maj 2003 g. Anti makedonskoto, predavni~koto i 
{iptaro-balisti~koto teroristi~ko taka nare~eno "misterstvo za vnatre{ni 
raboti" na ~elo so Maedonskiot izrod Hari Kostov-Yverot. Kako i 
prestavnicite na Anti makedonskoto, predavni~koto i {iptaro-balisti~koto 
teroristi~ko taka nare~eno "minsterstvo za odbrana" na "arm"-ventilator. I 
delegaciite na nadvore{nite zlo~inci i du{manski neprijateli na Makedonskiot 
narod na ~elo so amerikanskiot nacista i fa{ista, ambasadorot Lorens Batler 
vo Makedonskiot grad Skopje i zapadniot nacisti~ki i fa{isti~ki 
"general-komandant" na zapadnite nacisti~ki, fa{isticki, varvarski, 
agresorski, teroristi~ki, mafijo banditski i okupatrorski sili "konkordija". 
Ne uspeaa, odnosno ne sakaa da |i sklonat, odnosno da |i sru{at 
Blokadite-barikadite kon patot na Makedonskoto seli VOJCE. Od motorni vozila 
i preko 500 {iptarskite, ekstremisti~ki, nacisti~ki, fa{isti~ki, 
teroristi~ki, pedofilski, psihopatski, {izofreni~arski i mafijo banditskite 
agresori i okupatori na zapadniot del na Vardarskiot del na Makedonija.

Razlogot za blokadata i barikadata od strana na gnasnite, zasmrdenite, 
{iptarski, ekstremisti, nacisti, fa{isti, teroristi, pedofili, psihopati, 
{izofreni~ari, agresori, mafija{ki banditi i okupatori na zapadniot del na 
Vardarskiot del na Makedonja. Zatoa {to sakale da postavat VENCI roditelite 
i rodninite na nivnite deca, na ~edata i HEROITE NA MAJKA MAKEDONIJA. [to vo 
2001 g. Bea predadeni MAKEDONSKITE CEDA od strana na Makedonskite izrodi, 
predavni~ki yverovi - yverski, od golemite anti makedonskki, diktatorski, 
komunisti~ki, predavni~ki, uni{tuva~ki, zlo~inski, pedofilski, psihopatski, 
{izofreni~arski, teroristi~ki i mafijo banditski (mongoska-tataromanska, 
srbokomunisti~ka i siptaromanski teroristi~ki organizacija 
"dpmne"-{izofren~arska i "sdsm"-{izofreni~arska) i pod zaseda bea zverski, 
zlo~inski i du{manski masakrirani MAKEDONSKITE MLADI ^EDA I HEROI, od 
gnasnite, zasmrdenite, {iptarski, ekstremisti, nacisti, fa{isti, teroristi, 
pedofili, psihopati, {izofreni~ari, agresori i mafija{ki banditi.

Po~ituvani bra}a i sestri Makedonki i Makedonci!
Do koga nie Makedoncite }e spieme i }e }jutime kon vnatre{nite i 
nadvore{nite zl~inci i du{manski neprijateli na Makedonskiot narod. Vakava 
blokada-barikada da ja napraveja Makedoncite. Toga{ pod itna intervencija }e 
bea povikani ( Xandarmerite, teroristite i ubicite od anti makedonskata i 
{iptaro balisti~kata "arm"-ventilator i "mvr"-ventilator), Mislam od 
vnatre{nite i nadvore{nite zlo~inci i du{mani i neprijateli na Makeodnskiot 
narod, so agresorskite, okupatorskite Xandarmeri ma~enici nad dobriot, 
verniot, ~esniot, realniot, napateniot, zagrozeniot i porobeniot Makedonskio 
narod. Veruvajte mi deka za eden sat Makeodnskata blokada-barikada }e be{e 
sru{ena i site tie Makedonci }e bea fizi~ki apseni i prevedeni vo 
zlo~inskite i du{manskite temni zandani (zatvori) i fizi~ki i psihi~ki }e 
bea maltretirani i pretepani.

Po~ituvani bra}a i sestri Makedonki i Makedonci!
Ovie sliki od planiranata blokada i barikadite od strana na vnater{nite i 
nadvore{nite zlo~inski du{mani i golemi neprijateli na Makedonskiot narod, 
so nivnite prijateli gnasnite, zasmrdenite, {iptarski, ekstremisti, nacisti, 
fa{isti, teroristi, pedofili, psihopati, {izofreni~ari, agresori, mafija{ki 
banditi i okupatori na zapadniot del na Vardarskiot del na Makedonja. Ne 
be{e poka`ana i objavena vo svetskite mediumi (svetskata javnost), nego se 
}uti i mi`i deka vo Vardarskiot del na Makeodnija e "mir i stabilnost". 
Odnosno toa e eden neprijatelski, du{manski i okupatorski ~in so izolirawe i 
uni{tuvawe na Vardarskiot del na Makeodnija i uni{tuvawe na Makedonskiot 
narod (uni{tuvawe na Makedonskiot identitet). Od strana na vnater{nite i 
nadvore{nite golemi zlo~inci, du{mani i neprijateli na Makedonskiot narod.

Po~ituvani bra}a i sestri Makedonki i Makedonci. Po~ituvani bra}a i sestri 
Makedonski komiti, patrioti i borci.
Ve povikuvam vo ime na porobenata Makedonska zemja, vo ime na dobriot, 
verniot, ~esniot, realniot, zagrozeniot, napateniot i porobeniot Makeodnski 
narod i vo ime na Vnater{na Makedonska Revolucionerna Organizacija - 
Makedonija Na Makedoncite (VMRO-MNM). Za obedinuvawe na site dobri, verni, 
~esni, realni, napateni, zagrozeni i porobeni Makedonci, bes vrska kade 
`iveete.
Ve povikuvam za Makeodnsko edinstvo. Specijalno |i povikuvam vistinskite, 
realnite i ~esmite Makeodnski komiti, patrioti i borci za da se prijavat vo 
redovite i borbenite strukturi na Makedonskata Organizacija VMRO-MNM. Se 
razbira za borba za obedinuvawe na porobenata Makedonska zemja i za spas i 
sloboda na doriot, verniot, ~esniot, realniot, zagrozeniot, napateniot i 
porobeniot Makeodnski narod. Protiv vnatre{nite i nadvore{nite golemi 
zlo~inci, du{mani, okupatori i neprijateli na Makedonskata Dr`ava i na 
Makedonskiot narod. \i povikuvam site Makeodnci bilo kade i da `iveeat za 
podr{ka na Makedonskata Organizacija VMRO-MNM i voedno ve povikuvam za da i 
pomognete na Makedonskata Organizacija VMRO-MNM so site matrealni sretsva.

Po~ituvani bra}a i sestri Makedonki i Makedonci!
Nie Makedoncite nemame vi{e vreme za gubewe, nie Makeodncite ne mo`eme vi{e 
da ~ekame da nekoj od strana ni ja obedini na{ata porobena Makedonska zemja. 
Nie Makeodncite ne smeme vi{e da }utime i da mi`eme kako ogromnoto bogatsvo 
na Makedonskata dr`ava i na Makedonskiot narod se pqa~ka sekoj den od strana 
na golemite vnatre{ni i nadvore{ni Mafija{ki banditi (kriminalci).
Nie Makeodncite ne smeme da si dozvolime da prokletiot i gnasniot ramkoven 
dogovor da ni go podeli Vardarskiot del na Makeodnija i da ni go uni{ti 
Makedonskiot identitet (Da ni ja uni{ti na{ata staro drevna Makedonska 
nacija).
Nie Makedoncite ne smeeme da si dozvolime na vnatre{nite i nadvore{nite 
golemi agresori, okupatori, ubici, teroristi i mafija{ki banditi da se {etat 
slobodno vo Vardarskiot del na Makedonija i da sekoj dnevno izvr{uvat 
etni~ko ~istewe (yverski, zlo~inski i du{manski genocit na Makedonskiot 
narod), ubistva, maltretirawe i }idnapirawe na Makeodnski narod vo 
Vardarskiot del na Makeodnija. Da silovat Makeodnski devojki i `eni, da 
kidnapirat na{i Makeodnski maloletni ma{ki i `enski i da |i nosat i prodavat 
za seksualni robovi po zapadnite pedofliski i prostitutski javni ku}i i 
no}ni barovi, kako i vo lukzuznite hoteli, vili i stanovi na zapadnite 
pedeofilski politi~ari i biokratski banditi. Isto tak da se koristat na{ite 
mladi Makeodn~iwa po {iptaro balisti~kite prostitutski kafani i barovi.
Nie Makeoncite ne smeme da dozvolime da {iptarskite, ekstremisti, nacisti, 
fa{isti, teroristi, pedofili, psihopati, {izofreni~ari, ubici, agresori i 
mafija{ki banditi da bidat oslobodeni, odnosno da imat amnestija i 
pomiluvawe za nivnite ogromni yverski, zlo~inski i du{manski maltretirawa, 
ubistva i masakri nad Makedonskiot narod. Po{to Makeodnskite izrodi, 
predavni~ki yverovi - yverski i nadvore{nite neprijateli i okupatori na 
Makedonskata zemja i porobuva~i na Makeodnskiot narod, |i oslobodija od 
zatvor na sloboda i na site {iptarski ubici i kriminalci (banditi) im dadoa 
amnestija. A se maltretirat i zatvarat dobrite, vernite, ~esnite, realnite, 
zagrozenite, napatenite i porobenite Makedonci. Isto taka se maltretirat i 
zatvarat Makeodnskite komiti i patrioti, koj {to mene me podr`avat, koj {to 
se moi simpatizeri, koj {to se moi istomislenmici i ~lenovite na 
Makedonskata komitska i patriotska organizacija VMRO-MNM (Makedonija Na 
Makedoncite). Vo cela istoriska i geogravska Makeodnska zemja zagrozenite, 
napatenite i porobenite Makedonci ne smeeat da go spomnuvat moeto ime i 
imeto na Makedonskata Organizacija VMRO-MNM.
Gledame i ~itame deka nieden gnasni i zasmrdeni {iptaro balisti~ki ubiec, 
terorista i kriminalec ne se odnese vo zapadniot nacisti~ki, fa{isti~ki i 
varvarski Ha{ki sud za da |i osudat za ratni zlo~inci protiv Makedonskiot 
narod. Naprotiv im se dade na tie {iptarski ubici, teroristi, ekstremisti, 
nacisti, fa{isti i mafija{ki banditi da sedat vo anti makedonskata 
diktatorska, mafijo banditskata i terorsi~kata "vlada"-ventilator, so 
funkcii na "ministri" i "pratenici" vo anti makedonskiot diktatorski, 
teroristi~ki i mafijo banditski "parlament"-ventilator. Isto tka se 
namesteni i vo anti makedonskata "arm"-ventilator i vo anti makedonskata 
"mvr"ventilator. Kako i diplmatski prestavnici vo anti makedonskite 
"abasadi-konzulati"-ventilatori. Za golemi funkci so direktorski foteqi vo 
site dr`avni i privatni institucii i asosijacii. Pa zatoa moi Makeodnski 
komiti i patrioti nie ne smeme da dozvolime da na{iot Makeodnski narod i vo 
idnina da bide zagrozen, da pati i da bide pod ropstvo. Nego nie 
Makedonskite komiti i patrioti sme dol`ni i morame da |i likvidirame site 
{iptarski teroristi, ubici i kriminalci. Isto taka morame i dol`ni sme da |i 
likvidirame siote Makedonski izrodi, predavni~ki yverovi - yverski.
Nie Makeodnskite komiti i patrioti, morame i dol`ni sme da go za{tituvame 
na{iot napaten, zagrozen i poroben Makedonski narod, kako od vnatre{nite 
izrodi, zlo~inci i du{mani taka i od nadvore{nite zlo~inci, du{mani i 
neprijateli na Makeodnskiot narod.
Vreme e site Makedonski komiti, patrioti i borci da se organizirame vo 
redovite na Vnate{na Makedonska Revolucionerna Organizacija - Makeodnija Na 
Makedoncite (VMRO-MNM). I da se zapo~ne so seriozni akcii, operacii i borbi 
protiv vnate{nite i nadvore{nite golemi yverovi, zlo~inci, du{mani i 
neprijateli na Makedonskiot narod. Vreme e da se likvidirat site Makedonski 
izrodi, predavni~ki yverovi - yverski. Vreme e da se is~isti gnasnoto i 
zasmrdenoto azijatsko kafkasko {iptarski, balisti~ko i arnautsko (albansko) 
pleme od cela Makeodnska zemja i da |i likvidirame nivnite ekstremisti, 
nacisti, fa{isti, teroristi, ubici i mafija{ki banditi, za nivnite yverski, 
zlo~inski i du{manski ubistva, zlo~inski i du{manski masari, za nivnite 
zlo~inski i du{manski genocid i etni~ko ~istewe nad Makeodnskiot narod. 
Vreme e da |i isterame zapadnite, nacisti, fa{isti, varvari, fanatici, 
teroristi, mafija{ki banditi, agresori i okupatori od Vardarskiot del na 
Makeodnija.

Po~ituvani bra}a i sestri Makedonki i Makedonci!
Na site nas Makedoci ni e poznato i site znaeme kako Makedonskiot narod e 
stradal i patel i seu{te strada i patie i seu{te e pod ropstvo. No svetskata 
javnost toa ne go ka`uva i poka`uva vo nivnite mediumi. Deka Makedonskiot 
naraod i pod ropstvo i deka Makeodnskiot narod strada i pati od ovo prokleto 
ropstvo. Na{ata ni porobena mila i sakana tatkovina Makeodnija i na{iot 
poroben Makeodnski narod se izolirani i }e bideme i vo idnina izolirani i }e 
stradame i patime ako nie Makeodnscite se pla{ime, }utime i spieme. Nego 
treba da se probudime i da |i krenime gordo glavite na gore i da im poka`ime 
soila na site na{i neprijateli i okupatori. Tek toga{ }e se ~ue na golemo 
Makeodnskiot glas i Makeodnskata slika kako vistinata za Makeodnskata 
istorija i za staro drevna Makedonska zemja i stro drevniot Makedonski 
narod.

So Makedonski bratski, komitski i patriotski pozdravi do site dobri, verni, 
~esni, realni, zagrozeni, napateni i porobeni bra}a i sestri Makedonki 
Makedonci i do site hrabri, gordi i vistinski Makedonski komiti, patrioti i 
borci.....

VE^NO DA @IVEE MAKEDONSKATA ZEMJA!

VE^NO DA @IVEE DOBRIOT, VERNIOT, ^ESNIOT, REALNIOT, ZAGROZENIOT, NAPATENIOT 
I POROBENIOT MAKEDONSKI NAROD!

GOSPOD DA JA BLAGOSLOVI NA[ATA ZEMJA MAKEDONIJA I GOSPOD DA GO BLAGOSLOVI 
NA[IOT ZAGROZEN, NAPATEN I POROBEN MAKEDONSKI NAROD!

SMRT NA [IPTARISKITE-BALISTI^KI, EKSTREMISTI, NACISTI, FA[ISTI, TERORISTI, 
PEDOFILI, PSIHOPATI, [IZOFRENI^ARI, AGRESORI I MAFIJA[KO BANDITI!

SMRT NA SITE ZAPADNI OKUPATORSKI ^IZMARI, NACISTI, FA[MTI, VARVARI, 
AGRESORI, FANATICI, TERORISTI, PEDOFILI, PSIHOPATI, [IZOFRENI^ARI I 
MAFIJA[KI BANDITI!

SMRT NA MAKEDONSKI IZRODI, PREDAVNI^KI ZVEROVI-ZVERSKI, PSIHOPATI, 
[IZOFRENI^ARI I MAFIJA[KI BANDITI!

SLOBODA ILI SMRT ZA OBEDINETA MAKEDONSKATA redacted@AVA I BORBA ZA SPAS I SLOBODA 
NA ZAGROZENIOT, NAPATENIOT I POROBENIOT MAKEDONSKIOT NAROD!

EDEN ZA SITE I SITE ZA EDEN!

TOA E PORAKATA OD MAKEDONSKIOT KOMITA I PATRIOT TREPET I OD SITE HRABRI 
GORDI I VISTINSKI MAKEDONSKI KOMITI, PATRIOTI I BORCI......

VE^NO DA @IVEE VNATRE[NA MAKEDONSKA REVOLUCIONERNA ORGANIZACIJA - MAKEDONIJA 
NA MAKEDONCITE (VMRO-MNM)!

JAS SUM MAKEDONEC A NE FYROMEC!

NIE SME MAKEDONCI A NE FYROMCI!

MAKEDONIJA NA MAKEDONCITE!

Pretsedatel Na Makedonskata Organizacija VMRO-MNM
Qup~o Mir~evski-Trepet


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CHESNA I REALNA MAKEDONSKA PATRIOTKA VELI. VO BORBA ZA POBEDA I SLOBODA ZA 
MAKEDONIJA! SLOBODA ZA MAKEDONIJA SMRT ZA TIRANITE! SMRT ZA TIRANITE I 
DUSMANITE.

FROM: "VMRO-MNM" <redacted@vmro-mnm.com>
DATE: Sat, 22 Mar 2003 16:15:50 +0100
TO: "G-din pretsedatel i Vojvoda Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet" 
<redacted@vmro-mnm.com>
CC: "VMRO-MNM" <redacted@vmro-mnm.com>
SUBJECT: Email poraka od nasha Makedonka so golemi podrshki.

FROM: "Kata Xxxxxxxx" <redacted@optushome.com.au>
DATE: Sat, 22 Mar 2003 14:23:20 +1100
TO: "VMRO-MNM" <redacted@vmro-mnm.com>
SUBJECT: RE: Seriozni Makedonski komitski i patriotski pora}i do 
Makedonskiot narod i specijalni Pora}i do Makedonskite komiti i patrioti!

Zravo G-din Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet!

Od se srce Ti cestitam za Tvojata Golema makedonstina i patriotizam.
Takvi luge denes se naogaat mnogu retko.

Ideite za Makedonija Vi se prekrasni. Ako dojdi den da se sprovedat vo 
vistina {vo delo} Makedonija sonce ke ja ogre, a radosta ke nema kraj..
Covek co takvi planovi-idei, sto ne se koleba, sto ne se plasi; covek sto 
cesno postapuva so svojot narod i so svojata zemja, zasluzuva vrvno mesto na 
vlast.
Ako se ispolnat site nasi ubavi zelbi, NAD MAKEDONIJA KE SE VIORI SESNAESET 
ZRACNOTO SONCE VRZ SINA OSNOVA! Sinata boja e nasata drevna Makedonska 
Carska boja! Taka, ke si ja vratime nasata drevna istorija a na Grcija ke i 
udrime chivija.
Za vreme na Stara Jugoslavija koga konecno ja priznaa Makedonija kako 
republika, Carot Gorgi sesti od Anglija isprati zname specijalno preporacano 
za Makedonija;Makedoncite pod pritisok na Muslimanite I svojata 
tvrdoglavost, ponudata ja odbija i ja zedoa crvenata boja za da bidat 
pobliski so Turcija; Za steta na Makedonija Srbija so otvoreni oci go grabna 
znameto SINA BELA I CRVENA BOJA I go stavi na Jugoslavija I so nego se 
gordee do den denes.
Za zakletvata: namesto "sloboda ili smrt za Makedonija" neka bide "SLOBODA 
ZA MAKEDONIJA SMRT ZA TIRANITE" Namesto: "odam {ili gotov sum} da zaginam za 
Makedonija" Neka bidi: "VO BORBA ZA POBEDA I SLOBODA ZA MAKEDONIJA" Koga ve 
opitaat {prasuvaat} dali si spremen da zaginis za Makedonija? Ti vesto 
odgovori: "SPREMEN SUM ZA POHOD I POBEDA" "SMRT ZA TIRANITE DUSMANITE" Vo 
vojna ne se odi so zakletvi za smrt! Takvite zborovi da gi isfrlite od 
upotreba osobeno koga stanuva zbor za Makedonski patrioti borci.

G-din Trepet, bidi ziv zdrav, strav I trepet za dusmanite!
EDEN GOSPOD neka vi izleze vo presret neka ve blosojat {blagoslovi]
Vi pozeluvam dobar uspeh, svetla idnina!
Vo vedro raspolozenie da ve najdi pismovo. Amin!
Srdecen pozdrav
Kata Makedonska Lav


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From: "Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet" <redacted@hotmail.com>
To: redacted@hotmail.com, redacted@yahoo.com
Subject: Go citam napisov (www.makfax.com.mk/news1.asp?br=42093)
Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2003 20:41:44 +0000

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parmenio 14-Jun-03, 00:50 AM (GMT)
"Mene nesto ne mi e jasno..."

Go citam napisov (www.makfax.com.mk/news1.asp?br=42093)

i mene nesto stvarno ne mie jasno. Ako mene nekoj saka da me napadne, jas ke 
probam da se odbranam na sekoj mozen nacin. Ako napagjacot e so oruzje a i 
jas sum naoruzan togas situacijata e mnogu jasna i prasanjeto e mnogu jasno. 
Ili jas ili toj. Jas za drugi lugje ne bi sakal da zboruvam, no za mene 
mojot zivot mi e mnogu pomil tuku zivotot na nekoja druga budala koja ni 
pomalku ni poveke saka da me ubie. E sega...

Kako e mozno da naoruzani lica vlezat vo policiska stanica i gi istepaat 
policajcite? Policajcite se deca pa moraat da sedat mirno dodeka nekoja 
budala, onaka vospitno ke gi isamara...

Tuka vo USA, ako pomislat deka imas oruzje ke ti e... m... a ne ako go 
nasocis nakaj policajcite. Treba li da go spomnam onoj tipot (Dialo) vo NYC 
koj go napravija kako svajcarsko sirenje (mislam deka go pogodija so 41 
kursum) samo zatoa sto policajcite POMISLILE deka vadi pistol. I toa bese 
proglaseno za opravdano ubistvo zaradi toa sto bile opravdani okolnosti-bilo 
temno i policajcite imale opravdani pricini da mislat deka toj mozebi ima 
pistol.

No da ne se odlecuvame od temata...dali nekoj znae koja normalna 
osoba/grupa, i toa naoruzana osoba/grupa (osven Makedonskata Policija) ke 
dopusti "vospitno" da gi istepaat i da zivotot im e vo opasnost bez da 
probat da se odbranat?

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TREPET 14-Jun-03, 10:29 PM (GMT)
1. "RE: Mene nesto ne mi e jasno..."

Vnatresna Makedonska Revolucionerna Organizacija - Makedonija Na Makedoncite 
(VMRO-MNM)!
Pretsedatel: Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet

Privremen kontakt na E-mail adresata Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet 
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14 Juni 2003 g.

Zdravo zivo Parmenio,

Vo celosno te podrzavam so tvojot post!

No ne treba da te cudi i ne trba da mislis deka ne ti e jasno sto anti 
makedonskite novinari i policajci od makedonski rod deka fizicki se 
natepadni od siptarskite, ekstremisti, nacisti, fasisti, teroristi i 
mafijaski banditi.

I jas go procitav objaveniot artikel vo makfaks:

www.makfax.com.mk/news1.asp?br=42093

Da ne go komentiram celiot teks no se gleda kakvi novinari imame (pisuvat 
mestanite vo znak na protest), a ne da napisat siptarskite, ekstremisti, 
nacisti, fasisti, teroristi i mafijaski banditi.
Isto taka go procitav i izvestajot od anti makedonskata informativna 
agencija "mia" na makeodnski i na siptarski jazik, odnosno anti makeonska 
albanska informativna agencija (amaia).

www.mia.com.mk/mak/glavna...4-1306.htm

Ova anti makedonska albanska informativna agencija (amaia) pisuva. 
Novinarski ekipi na Makeodnskata televizija, na Sitel i na Telma vo 
cetvrtokot i petokot bea fizicki napadnati od grupa gragjani vo skopskoto 
selo Aracinovo.
A ne da napisat fizicki napadnati od siptarskite, ekstremisti, nacisti, 
fasisti, teroristi i mafijaski banditi.

Na tie anti makedonski novinari i na policajcite od makedonski rod im e 
potreben takov kjotek. I naj iskreno da ti kazam deka me mnogo raduva sto 
izele kjotek. Posto tie anti makeodnski novinari i policajci od makedonski 
rod se zlocinci, dusmani, prodaeni dusi na site nasi neprijateli, za pari si 
gi prodavat nivnite zadnici...
Ako zemes da gi prekontroliras site mediumski artikli od 1990 godina pa do 
den denes i ke vides kavi popoliziranje na siptarskoto ekstremisticko, 
nacisticko, fasisticko, teroristicko i mafijo banditsko gnasno pleme. A naj 
vise so ogromni popoliziranje na siptarskite ekstremisticki, nacisticki, 
fasisticki, teroristicki i mafijo banditski organizacii na celo so nivnite 
teroristicki i mafijo banditski vodaci. Zborenje i pisuvanje so golem pocit 
i respekt. Kako albanski politicki partii, albanski lideri na albanski 
politicki partii, kako minsteri, kak pratenici vo makedonsko sobranie, 
abasadori, direktori, profesori i.t.n....
Isto taka so golemi popliziranje na Makedonskite izrodi, predavnicki 
zverovi-zverski, so nivnite taka nareceni "makedonski politicki partii", so 
golema pocit i respek si izreki na Makeodnski pretsedatel minister, pratenik 
i.t.n.
Isto taka mnogo me raduva i kjotekot na anti makedonskite policajci. Posto i 
tie se prodadeni dusi. Ako tie se Makedonski policajci za zastita na 
Makeodnskiot narod togas treba da rabotat i da go zasituvat Makedonskiot 
narod a ne da gi zastituvat interesite i da rabotat za Makedonskite izrodi, 
predavnicki zverovi-zverski i za siptarskite ekstremisticki, nacisticki, 
fasisticki, teroristicki i mafijo banditski gnasotii.......
Vardarskiot del na Makedonija nema Makedonski policajci koj sto rabotat samo 
so Makedonci vo tie policajski stanici, nego imat masivno na nivni kolegi od 
siptarsko, ekstremisticko, nasisticko, fasisticko, teroristicko i mafijasko 
banditsko gnasno i zasmrdeno pleme..... Tie taka nareceni Makedonski 
policajci sorabotuvat so siptarskite teroristi i mafijaski banditi. Site tie 
mesani "policajci", odnosno teroristi i mafijaski banditi, go maltretirat i 
fizicki go tortirat Makedonskiot narod, pravat ogromni pljacki na Makedonski 
narod, se apsat Makeodnski komiti i patrioti i gi priveduvat vo tie anti 
makedonski temni zandani i tuka se izivjavat so niv, zverski, zlocinski i 
dusmnaski gi tortirat kako fizicki taka i psihicki.....

Vardarskiot del na Makeodnija e zagaden i prepoln so vnatresni Makeodnski 
diktatori, izrdoi, predavnicki zverovi-zverski, so Makedonski zlocinci, 
dusmani i krvopici i so Makedonski agenti i spijuni koj sto se plateni od 
site nasi neprijateli i okupatori (Specijalno se plateni od zapadniot 
diktatorski, nacisticki, fasisticki, agresorski, provokatorski, varvarski, 
teroristicki i biokratski mafijaski banditski svet).
I Vardarskiot del na Makedonija e zagaden i prepoln so nadvoresni agenti, 
spijuni, nacisti, fasisti, fanatici, zlocinci, dusmani, krvnici, banditi, 
pedofili, psihopati, sizofrenicari i krvopici.
Makeodnskiot narod vo Vardarskiot del na Makeodnija e totalno izoliran od 
svetskata javnost, kako sto e Makedonskiot narod totalno izoliran od 
svetskata javnost i vo drugite porobeni delovi na Makedonskata drzava...
Taka da celiot Makedonski narod e vo ogromna opasnost i e na pat za 
unistuvanje na Makedonskata nacija. A da ne zborime za Makedonska drzava i 
za Makedonska istorija, kultura, tradicii, simboli, bogovi, staro istoriski 
arheoloski predmeti, prirodni bogatstva i mniogo drugi raboti.....

Parmenio zar ne gledas deka svetskata mediumska masinerija (specijalno 
zapadnite lazni, falcifikatorski, provokatorski, agresorski, nacisticki i 
fasisticki masineriski mediumi so izoliranje i ignoriranje za ogromnite 
katastrofi vo Makedonskata drzava i ogromnite zagrozuvacki katastrovi na 
dobriot, verniot, cesniot, realniot, zagrozeniot, napateniot i porobeniot 
Makedonski narod. Taka da izolacijata na Makedonskata drzava i na 
Makeodnskiot narod od svetskata javnost e ogromna katastrofa i nikogas narod 
vo ovaj svet nema da doznaae so kakvi katastrofalni i zagrozuvacki zivot 
zivee toj poroben Makedonskiot narod.

Makedonskiot narod nema pravo na samo odbrana od nadvoresnite agresori, 
provokatori, teroristi, mafijaski banditi i okupatori. Kako sto ima pravo 
amerika, odnosno kako sto imat pravo na samo odbrana celiot zapadni svet a i 
nasite ”sosedni” agresori, provokatori, teroristi, mafijaski banditi i 
okupatori. Za Makeodnskiot narod ne vazi samo odbrana, posto Makedonskiot 
narod mora da se unisti, toj Makedonski narod e staro drevni Makedonski 
narod i Makedonskata drzava e stara drevna Makedonska drzava. I taka da taa 
istorija za Makeodnskata drzava i za Makeodnskiot narod mora da se unisti za 
sekogas i da se pisuva druga istorija, odnosno Makedonskata istorija, 
kultira, tradicii, bogovi, kralovi, carovi, vojvodi, revolucioneri i sve sto 
e Makedonsko da se zapise vo novata istorija deka e ”grcka, bugarska, srpska 
i albanska” a ne MAKEDONSKA…… A za sve toa sme naj golemite vinovnici nie 
samite MAKEDONCI, koj sto se jadime eden sprema drug, koj sto im dozvoluvame 
na nasite nadvoresni agresori, provokatori, zlocinci, dusmani, teroristi, 
mafijaski banditski neprijateli i okupatori da ni pravat sto sakat……

SO MAKEDONSKI BRATSKI, KOMITSKI I PATRIOTSKI POZDRAVI DO TEBE PARMENIO I DO 
SITE DOBRI, VERNI, CESNI, REALNI, ZAGROZENI, NAPATENI I POROBENI MAKEDONCI!

VECNO DA ZIVEE MAKEDONSKATA ZEMJA!

VECNO DA ZIVEE MAKEDONSKIOT NAROD!

GOSPOD DA JA BLAGOSLOVI NASATA ZEMJA MAKEDONIJA I GOSPOD DA GO BLAGOSLOVI 
NASIOT MAKEDONSKI NAROD!

SMRT ZA SIPTARISKITE-BALISTI, TERORISTI I FASISTI!

SMRT ZA SITE ZAPADNI OKUPATORSKI CIZMARI, NACISTI, FASISTI, VARVARI, 
TERORISTI, BIOKRATI I FANATICI VO NASATA MILA I SAKANA TATKOVINA MAKEDONIJA!

SMRT ZA IZRODITE MAKEDONSKI PREDAVNICKI ZVEROVI-ZVERSKI!

SLOBODA ILI SMRT ZA MAKEDONSKATA DRZAVA I ZA MAKEDONSKIOT NAROD!

EDEN ZA SITE I SITE ZA EDEN!

VECNO DA ZIVEE MAKEDONSKATA REVOLUCIONERNA ORGANIZACIJA VMRO-MNM (MAKEDONIJA 
NA MAKEDONCITE)!

JAS SUM MAKEDONEC A NE FYROMEC!

NIE SME MAKEDONCI A NE FYROMCI!

MAKEDONIJA NA MAKEDONCITE!

TOA E PORAKATA OD MAKEDONSKIOT KOMITA I PATRIOT TREPET I OD SITE HRABRI I 
GORDI MAKEDONSKI KOMITI, PATRIOTI I BORCI......

Pretsedatel Na Makedonskata Organizacija VMRO-MNM
Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet


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From: xxxxx xxxxxxxx <redacted@yahoo.com>
To: redacted@hotmail.com
Subject: ne bidi jak na vilica
Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 17:39:22 -0700 (PDT)

jas sum lider na voenoto krilo na xxxxx nie sme 300 luge pod oruzje ama 
nemame pari ako sakas da ubivame siptari kako pilci dojdi so pari po eden 
komandant mesecno. ne samo da laes treba so krv siptarska da se osloboduva 
mila majka makedonija aj cao pisi i sledniot pat ke ti go dadam mobilniot da 
mi se javis.

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From: "Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet" <redacted@hotmail.com>
To: redacted@yahoo.com
CC: redacted@hotmail.com, 
redacted@hotmail.com
Subject: Re: ne bidi jak na vilica
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 19:13:58 +0000

Vnatresna Makedonska Revolucionerna Organizacija - Makedonija Na Makedoncite 
(VMRO-MNM)!
Pretsedatel: Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet

Privremen kontakt na E-mail adresata Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet 
<redacted@hotmail.com>

25 Juni 2003 g.

Zdravo zivo nepoznat Makedonec,

Blagodaram za E-mail porakata i voedno da ti kazam deka ne mi se svigjaa 
tvoite zborovi (ne bidi jak na vilica i ne samo da laes).
Vidi vaka jas javno, so gordost i aktivno rabotam i hrabro se boram za 
Makedonskata kauza i za zastita na Makedonskite drzavni i nacionalni 
interesi, a ne za licni interesi.
A ako ima drug Makedonec sto javno, aktivno gordo raboti i hrabro se bori za 
Makeodnskata kauza i za Makedonskite drzavni i nacionalni interesi da mi 
kazes koj e toj Makedonec...

Velis deka ti si bil lider na voenoto krilo na xxxxx i ste bile 300 luge pod 
oruzje ama ste nemale pari.
Ovo e zalosno da se zboruva deka se nema pari za da se ubivat siptarski 
ekstremisti, nacisti, fasisti, ubici, agresori, pedofili, psihopati, 
sizofrenicari, teroristi i mafijaski banditi. Vie ste 300 luge i raspolagate 
so oruzje i koj sto mozete mnogo da storite za nasata ni mila i sakana 
tatkovina Makeodnija i za dobriot, verniot, cesniot, realniot, napateniot, 
zagrozeniot i porobeniot Makeodnski narod.
Jas neznam kolku si ti zapoznaen deka Makedoncite a posebno Makeodnskite 
biznismeni vise ne davat pari za voeni, odnosno za borbeni strukturi. 
Makeodncite davat pari samo na anti makedonskite taka nareceni politicki 
partii i organizacii i na anti makedonski paravoeni banditeski i kriminalni 
organizacii, kako na primer na "lavovite, tigrovite, skorpionite, volcite" i 
na "arm"-ventilator i "mvr"-ventilator.
Makedonskiot narod dozvoluva da suste zapadnite nacisti, fasisti, varvari, 
agresori, provokatori, fanatici, biokratski banditi, psihopati, 
sizofrenicari, pedofili i teroristi da go pljackat ogromnoto prirodno i 
istorisko bogatstvo na Vardarskiot del na Makedonija.
Makedonskiot narod dozvoli i prifati da ni se smeni istoriskoto 
sesnaesetzracnoto sonce znameto od Makeodnkiot Kutles so prokletiot satanski 
znak ventilator. Makedonskiot narod privati i dozvoli da ni bide prekrstena 
Majka Makedonija so prokletoto ime "fyrom". Makeodnskiot nato dozvoli i 
prifati da ni se unusti Makedonaskiot drzaven ustav (So prokletiot 
unistuvacki ramkoven dogovor). Makedonskiot narod dozvoli i prifati da vo 
anti makedonskiot mafijaski, predavnicki i teroristicki parlament da se 
zbori i na siptarski jazik. Makeodnskiot narod dozvoli i prifati da vo 
Vardarskiot del na Makeodnija da bide dvojazicen i da ima dokumenti na 
siptarski jazik.
Makedonskiot narod ke prifati i ke dozvoli da Vardarskiot del na Makeodnija 
da se podeli na dva dela ili da bide celiot na sipatrskite ekstremisti, 
nacisti, fasisti i teroristi za golema taka narecena "albanija".
A da ne zborime sto Makedonskiot narod prifati da mu se izvrsuva zverski, 
zlocinski i dusmanski etnicko cistenje i genocitd isto taka i zverski, 
zlocinski i dusmanski torturi i masakri od strana na Makedonskite diktatori, 
pedofili, psihopati, sizofrenicari teroristi, mafijaski banditi i izrodi, 
predavnicki zverovi - zverski, od strana na siptarskite ekstremisti, 
nacisti, fasisti, teroristi, agresori, pedofili, psihopati, sizofrenicari i 
mafijaski banditi, a i od strana na zapadnite diktaori, nacisti, fasisti, 
fanatici, varvari, pedofili, psihopati, sizofrenicari, teroristi, agresori i 
biokratski mafijaski banditi.
Makedonskiot narod vo Vardarskiot del na Makedonija ke dozvoli, odnosno ke 
prifati i da se islamezirat, odnosno da se siptalerizirat......

Ti mi velis da dojdam so pari. Pa vidi vaka ako Makeodnskiot narod ceka da 
nekoj Makedonec im dojde so polni kuferi (ili vagoni) na dolari, evra, funti 
ili Svajcarski frankovi, bidi uveren deka toj Makedonec nema da gi dade za 
upotreba na Makeodnski borbeni strukturi, nego toj ke gi dade na 
Makeodnskite izrodi, predavnicki zverovi - zverski za da ima prihod a ne da 
gubi ili trosi negovi pari za odbrana na Makeodnskata drzava i za zastita na 
Makeodnskiot naord.
Jas nesum nekoj biznismen niti sum kapetalista. Jas sum eden obicen i 
povreden invalitski penzioner so minimalna invalidska penzija. No sepak jas 
so gordost aktivno rabotam i hrabro komitsko i patriotsko srce se boram za 
Makedonskata kauza i za zastita na Makeodnskite drzavni i nacionalni 
interesi.....
Jas i Makedonskata vistinska, realna i cesna komitska i patriotska 
organizacija VMRO-MNM (MAKEDONIJA NA MAKEODNCITE). Ne sme podrzani niti sme 
finaciski pomognati od Makedonskiot narod, a da ne zborime od Makeodnskite 
biznismeni, mozam da kazam samo 0000000%. Makeodnskiot narod gi podrzava i 
gi finasira tie sto ti gi spomnav pogore vo pismoto.
Makeodnskiot narod treba da se gordee so Makeodnci koj sto se hrabri i koj 
sto imat dobri i sigurni ideei za obedinuvanje na rasparcenata ni mila i 
sakana Majka Makeodnija i za sapas i sloboda na porobeniot Makedonski narod.

Ne se naj golemite vinovnici siptarskite ekstremisti, nacisti, fasisti, 
teroristi, ubici, agresori, pedofili, psihopati, sizofrenicari i mafijaski 
banditi koj sto treba da se ubivat kako pilci ili glufci. Naj prvo treba da 
se ubivat kako pilci i glufci Makedonskite diktatori, pedofili, psihopati, 
sizofrenicari, mafijaski banditi i izrodi, predavnicki zverovi - zverski. I 
site tie zapadnite diktaori, nacisti, fasisti, fanatici, varvari, pedofili, 
psihopati, sizofrenicari, teroristi, agresori i biokratski mafijaski banditi 
sto se vo Vardarskiot del na Makedonija.
Naj golemite vinovnici se zapadnite diktaori, nacisti, fasisti, fanatici, 
varvari, pedofili, psihopati, sizofrenicari, teroristi, agresori i 
biokratski mafijaski banditi sto gi pridobija siptaristava kako nivni 
nacisti, fasisti, teroristi, agenti, spijuni, zagari, ubici, pedofili, 
psihopati, sizofrenicari i mafijaski banditi, kako i pridobivanjeto na 
Makeodnskite izrodi, predavnicki zverovi - zverski za nivni agenti i spijuni 
za da pravat ogromni pljacki vo Vardarskiot del na Makedonija i da pravat 
zverski, zlocinski i dusmanski torturi, silovanje na Makedonki, ubistva, 
masakri, etnicko cistenje i genocid nad Makedonaskiot narod.

Zapadnite diktaori, nacisti, fasisti, fanatici, varvari, pedofili, 
psihopati, sizofrenicari, teroristi, agresori i biokratski mafijaski banditi 
uspeea da napravat omraza kon Makedonskiot narod za da se mrazat, za da se 
ubivat i unistuvat megju sami sebe.
Vidovme kako na den 6/22/2003 g. siptarskite ekstremisti, nacisti, fasisti, 
teroristi, ubici, agresori, pedofili, psihopati, sizofrenicari i mafijaski 
banditi uspesno si postavuvat teroristicki eksplozii vo centarot na vtoriot 
Makedonski grad Skopje. Taka narecenite "makedonski mediumi" gi narekoa kako 
nepoznati storiteli. A ne smeea da kazat i napisat deka se izvrseni 
teroristickite eksplozivni atentati od siptarskite ekstremisti, nacisti, 
fasisti, teroristi, ubici, agresori, pedofili, psihopati, sizofrenicari i 
mafijaski banditi so naredba od zapadnite diktaori, nacisti, fasisti, 
fanatici, varvari, pedofili, psihopati, sizofrenicari, teroristi, agresori i 
biokratski mafijaski banditi. Zapadnite nacisticki, fasisticki, 
provokatorski, agresorski i propaganda masineriski mediumi ne kazaa niti 
pokazaa za teroristickite eksplozivni atentati, nego si se napravia 
naudreni, ne vidoa i ne slusnaa. Toa se veli deka site zapadni zemji se nasi 
golemi zlocinski neprijateli i dusmanski unistuvaci......

Jas pak ke se povratam za tvoite 300 luge i sto raspolagate so oruzje. Vidi 
vaka imas 300 luge i raspolagas so oruzje. Sto ti trebat pari za da ubivas 
siptarski gnasotii kako pilci. Tebe ti trebat samo dobri ideei i sigurni 
planovi kako treba da se izvrsuvat akciite i operaciite. A za pari mozat da 
se snabdat koga imas 300 borci i raspolagas so oruzje....

A na kraj na ovo moe pismo sakam da ti kazam deka treba da mi se izvinis za 
tvoite neprijatni i navredlivi zborovi i da mi kazes tvoe vistinsko ime i 
prezime, ako sakas za da imame kontakti vo idnina......

SO MAKEDONSKI BRATSKI, KOMITSKI I PATRIOTSKI POZDRAVI DO SITE DOBRI, VERNI, 
CESNI, REALNI, ZAGROZENI, NAPATENI I POROBENI MAKEDONCI!

VECNO DA ZIVEE MAKEDONSKATA ZEMJA!

VECNO DA ZIVEE MAKEDONSKIOT NAROD!

GOSPOD DA JA BLAGOSLOVI NASATA ZEMJA MAKEDONIJA I GOSPOD DA GO BLAGOSLOVI 
NASIOT MAKEDONSKI NAROD!

SMRT ZA SIPTARISKITE-BALISTI, EKSTREMISTI, TERORISTI, FASISTI, NACISTI, 
PEDOFILI, PSIHOPATI, SIZOFRENICARI, UBICI I MAFIJASKI BANDITI!

SMRT ZA SITE ZAPADNI OKUPATORSKI CIZMARI, NACISTI, FASISTI, VARVARI, 
TERORISTI, BIOKRATSKI BANDITI, AGRESORI, PEDOFILI, PSIHOPATI, SIZOFRENICARI 
I FANATICI STO SE VO NASATA MILA I SAKANA TATKOVINA MAKEDONIJA!

SMRT ZA IZRODITE MAKEDONSKI PREDAVNICKI ZVEROVI-ZVERSKI!

SLOBODA ILI SMRT ZA MAKEDONSKATA DRZAVA I ZA MAKEDONSKIOT NAROD!

EDEN ZA SITE I SITE ZA EDEN!

VECNO DA ZIVEE VNATRESNA MAKEDONSKA REVOLUCIONERNA ORGANIZACIJA - MAKEDONIJA 
NA MAKEDONCITE (VMRO-MNM)!

JAS SUM MAKEDONEC A NE FYROMEC!

NIE SME MAKEDONCI A NE FYROMCI!

MAKEDONIJA NA MAKEDONCITE!

TOA E PORAKATA OD VISTINSKIOT, REALNIOT I CESENIOT MAKEDONSKI KOMITA I 
PATRIOT TREPET I OD SITE HRABRI I GORDI MAKEDONSKI KOMITI, PATRIOTI I 
BORCI......

Pretsedatel Na Makedonskata Organizacija VMRO-MNM
Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet

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From: xxxxx xxxxxxxx <redacted@yahoo.com>
To: redacted@hotmail.com
Subject: ne bidi jak na vilica
Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 17:39:22 -0700 (PDT)

jas sum lider na voenoto krilo na xxxxx nie sme 300 luge pod oruzje ama 
nemame pari ako sakas da ubivame siptari kako pilci dojdi so pari po eden 
komandant mesecno. ne samo da laes treba so krv siptarska da se osloboduva 
mila majka makedonija aj cao pisi i sledniot pat ke ti go dadam mobilniot da 
mi se javis.

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From: "Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet" <redacted@hotmail.com>
To: redacted@yahoo.com
CC: redacted@hotmail.com, 
redacted@hotmail.com
Subject: Re: ne bidi jak na vilica
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 19:13:58 0000

Vnatresna Makedonska Revolucionerna Organizacija - Makedonija Na Makedoncite 
(VMRO-MNM)!
Pretsedatel: Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet

Privremen kontakt na E-mail adresata Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet 
<redacted@hotmail.com>

25 Juni 2003 g.

Zdravo zivo nepoznat Makedonec,

Blagodaram za E-mail porakata i voedno da ti kazam deka ne mi se svigjaa 
tvoite zborovi (ne bidi jak na vilica i ne samo da laes).
Vidi vaka jas javno, so gordost i aktivno rabotam i hrabro se boram za 
Makedonskata kauza i za zastita na Makedonskite drzavni i nacionalni 
interesi, a ne za licni interesi.
A ako ima drug Makedonec sto javno, aktivno gordo raboti i hrabro se bori za 
Makeodnskata kauza i za Makedonskite drzavni i nacionalni interesi da mi 
kazes koj e toj Makedonec...

Velis deka ti si bil lider na voenoto krilo na xxxxx i ste bile 300 luge pod 
oruzje ama ste nemale pari.
Ovo e zalosno da se zboruva deka se nema pari za da se ubivat siptarski 
ekstremisti, nacisti, fasisti, ubici, agresori, pedofili, psihopati, 
sizofrenicari, teroristi i mafijaski banditi. Vie ste 300 luge i raspolagate 
so oruzje i koj sto mozete mnogo da storite za nasata ni mila i sakana 
tatkovina Makeodnija i za dobriot, verniot, cesniot, realniot, napateniot, 
zagrozeniot i porobeniot Makeodnski narod.
Jas neznam kolku si ti zapoznaen deka Makedoncite a posebno Makeodnskite 
biznismeni vise ne davat pari za voeni, odnosno za borbeni strukturi. 
Makeodncite davat pari samo na anti makedonskite taka nareceni politicki 
partii i organizacii i na anti makedonski paravoeni banditeski i kriminalni 
organizacii, kako na primer na "lavovite, tigrovite, skorpionite, volcite" i 
na "arm"-ventilator i "mvr"-ventilator.
Makedonskiot narod dozvoluva da suste zapadnite nacisti, fasisti, varvari, 
agresori, provokatori, fanatici, biokratski banditi, psihopati, 
sizofrenicari, pedofili i teroristi da go pljackat ogromnoto prirodno i 
istorisko bogatstvo na Vardarskiot del na Makedonija.
Makedonskiot narod dozvoli i prifati da ni se smeni istoriskoto 
sesnaesetzracnoto sonce znameto od Makeodnkiot Kutles so prokletiot satanski 
znak ventilator. Makedonskiot narod privati i dozvoli da ni bide prekrstena 
Majka Makedonija so prokletoto ime "fyrom". Makeodnskiot nato dozvoli i 
prifati da ni se unusti Makedonaskiot drzaven ustav (So prokletiot 
unistuvacki ramkoven dogovor). Makedonskiot narod dozvoli i prifati da vo 
anti makedonskiot mafijaski, predavnicki i teroristicki parlament da se 
zbori i na siptarski jazik. Makeodnskiot narod dozvoli i prifati da vo 
Vardarskiot del na Makeodnija da bide dvojazicen i da ima dokumenti na 
siptarski jazik.
Makedonskiot narod ke prifati i ke dozvoli da Vardarskiot del na Makeodnija 
da se podeli na dva dela ili da bide celiot na sipatrskite ekstremisti, 
nacisti, fasisti i teroristi za golema taka narecena "albanija".
A da ne zborime sto Makedonskiot narod prifati da mu se izvrsuva zverski, 
zlocinski i dusmanski etnicko cistenje i genocitd isto taka i zverski, 
zlocinski i dusmanski torturi i masakri od strana na Makedonskite diktatori, 
pedofili, psihopati, sizofrenicari teroristi, mafijaski banditi i izrodi, 
predavnicki zverovi - zverski, od strana na siptarskite ekstremisti, 
nacisti, fasisti, teroristi, agresori, pedofili, psihopati, sizofrenicari i 
mafijaski banditi, a i od strana na zapadnite diktaori, nacisti, fasisti, 
fanatici, varvari, pedofili, psihopati, sizofrenicari, teroristi, agresori i 
biokratski mafijaski banditi.
Makedonskiot narod vo Vardarskiot del na Makedonija ke dozvoli, odnosno ke 
prifati i da se islamezirat, odnosno da se siptalerizirat......

Ti mi velis da dojdam so pari. Pa vidi vaka ako Makeodnskiot narod ceka da 
nekoj Makedonec im dojde so polni kuferi (ili vagoni) na dolari, evra, funti 
ili Svajcarski frankovi, bidi uveren deka toj Makedonec nema da gi dade za 
upotreba na Makeodnski borbeni strukturi, nego toj ke gi dade na 
Makeodnskite izrodi, predavnicki zverovi - zverski za da ima prihod a ne da 
gubi ili trosi negovi pari za odbrana na Makeodnskata drzava i za zastita na 
Makeodnskiot naord.
Jas nesum nekoj biznismen niti sum kapetalista. Jas sum eden obicen i 
povreden invalitski penzioner so minimalna invalidska penzija. No sepak jas 
so gordost aktivno rabotam i hrabro komitsko i patriotsko srce se boram za 
Makedonskata kauza i za zastita na Makeodnskite drzavni i nacionalni 
interesi.....
Jas i Makedonskata vistinska, realna i cesna komitska i patriotska 
organizacija VMRO-MNM (MAKEDONIJA NA MAKEODNCITE). Ne sme podrzani niti sme 
finaciski pomognati od Makedonskiot narod, a da ne zborime od Makeodnskite 
biznismeni, mozam da kazam samo 0000000%. Makeodnskiot narod gi podrzava i 
gi finasira tie sto ti gi spomnav pogore vo pismoto.
Makeodnskiot narod treba da se gordee so Makeodnci koj sto se hrabri i koj 
sto imat dobri i sigurni ideei za obedinuvanje na rasparcenata ni mila i 
sakana Majka Makeodnija i za sapas i sloboda na porobeniot Makedonski narod.

Ne se naj golemite vinovnici siptarskite ekstremisti, nacisti, fasisti, 
teroristi, ubici, agresori, pedofili, psihopati, sizofrenicari i mafijaski 
banditi koj sto treba da se ubivat kako pilci ili glufci. Naj prvo treba da 
se ubivat kako pilci i glufci Makedonskite diktatori, pedofili, psihopati, 
sizofrenicari, mafijaski banditi i izrodi, predavnicki zverovi - zverski. I 
site tie zapadnite diktaori, nacisti, fasisti, fanatici, varvari, pedofili, 
psihopati, sizofrenicari, teroristi, agresori i biokratski mafijaski banditi 
sto se vo Vardarskiot del na Makedonija.
Naj golemite vinovnici se zapadnite diktaori, nacisti, fasisti, fanatici, 
varvari, pedofili, psihopati, sizofrenicari, teroristi, agresori i 
biokratski mafijaski banditi sto gi pridobija siptaristava kako nivni 
nacisti, fasisti, teroristi, agenti, spijuni, zagari, ubici, pedofili, 
psihopati, sizofrenicari i mafijaski banditi, kako i pridobivanjeto na 
Makeodnskite izrodi, predavnicki zverovi - zverski za nivni agenti i spijuni 
za da pravat ogromni pljacki vo Vardarskiot del na Makedonija i da pravat 
zverski, zlocinski i dusmanski torturi, silovanje na Makedonki, ubistva, 
masakri, etnicko cistenje i genocid nad Makedonaskiot narod.

Zapadnite diktaori, nacisti, fasisti, fanatici, varvari, pedofili, 
psihopati, sizofrenicari, teroristi, agresori i biokratski mafijaski banditi 
uspeea da napravat omraza kon Makedonskiot narod za da se mrazat, za da se 
ubivat i unistuvat megju sami sebe.
Vidovme kako na den 6/22/2003 g. siptarskite ekstremisti, nacisti, fasisti, 
teroristi, ubici, agresori, pedofili, psihopati, sizofrenicari i mafijaski 
banditi uspesno si postavuvat teroristicki eksplozii vo centarot na vtoriot 
Makedonski grad Skopje. Taka narecenite "makedonski mediumi" gi narekoa kako 
nepoznati storiteli. A ne smeea da kazat i napisat deka se izvrseni 
teroristickite eksplozivni atentati od siptarskite ekstremisti, nacisti, 
fasisti, teroristi, ubici, agresori, pedofili, psihopati, sizofrenicari i 
mafijaski banditi so naredba od zapadnite diktaori, nacisti, fasisti, 
fanatici, varvari, pedofili, psihopati, sizofrenicari, teroristi, agresori i 
biokratski mafijaski banditi. Zapadnite nacisticki, fasisticki, 
provokatorski, agresorski i propaganda masineriski mediumi ne kazaa niti 
pokazaa za teroristickite eksplozivni atentati, nego si se napravia 
naudreni, ne vidoa i ne slusnaa. Toa se veli deka site zapadni zemji se nasi 
golemi zlocinski neprijateli i dusmanski unistuvaci......

Jas pak ke se povratam za tvoite 300 luge i sto raspolagate so oruzje. Vidi 
vaka imas 300 luge i raspolagas so oruzje. Sto ti trebat pari za da ubivas 
siptarski gnasotii kako pilci. Tebe ti trebat samo dobri ideei i sigurni 
planovi kako treba da se izvrsuvat akciite i operaciite. A za pari mozat da 
se snabdat koga imas 300 borci i raspolagas so oruzje....

A na kraj na ovo moe pismo sakam da ti kazam deka treba da mi se izvinis za 
tvoite neprijatni i navredlivi zborovi i da mi kazes tvoe vistinsko ime i 
prezime, ako sakas za da imame kontakti vo idnina......

SO MAKEDONSKI BRATSKI, KOMITSKI I PATRIOTSKI POZDRAVI DO SITE DOBRI, VERNI, 
CESNI, REALNI, ZAGROZENI, NAPATENI I POROBENI MAKEDONCI!

VECNO DA ZIVEE MAKEDONSKATA ZEMJA!

VECNO DA ZIVEE MAKEDONSKIOT NAROD!

GOSPOD DA JA BLAGOSLOVI NASATA ZEMJA MAKEDONIJA I GOSPOD DA GO BLAGOSLOVI 
NASIOT MAKEDONSKI NAROD!

SMRT ZA SIPTARISKITE-BALISTI, EKSTREMISTI, TERORISTI, FASISTI, NACISTI, 
PEDOFILI, PSIHOPATI, SIZOFRENICARI, UBICI I MAFIJASKI BANDITI!

SMRT ZA SITE ZAPADNI OKUPATORSKI CIZMARI, NACISTI, FASISTI, VARVARI, 
TERORISTI, BIOKRATSKI BANDITI, AGRESORI, PEDOFILI, PSIHOPATI, SIZOFRENICARI 
I FANATICI STO SE VO NASATA MILA I SAKANA TATKOVINA MAKEDONIJA!

SMRT ZA IZRODITE MAKEDONSKI PREDAVNICKI ZVEROVI-ZVERSKI!

SLOBODA ILI SMRT ZA MAKEDONSKATA DRZAVA I ZA MAKEDONSKIOT NAROD!

EDEN ZA SITE I SITE ZA EDEN!

VECNO DA ZIVEE VNATRESNA MAKEDONSKA REVOLUCIONERNA ORGANIZACIJA - MAKEDONIJA 
NA MAKEDONCITE (VMRO-MNM)!

JAS SUM MAKEDONEC A NE FYROMEC!

NIE SME MAKEDONCI A NE FYROMCI!

MAKEDONIJA NA MAKEDONCITE!

TOA E PORAKATA OD VISTINSKIOT, REALNIOT I CESENIOT MAKEDONSKI KOMITA I 
PATRIOT TREPET I OD SITE HRABRI I GORDI MAKEDONSKI KOMITI, PATRIOTI I 
BORCI......

Pretsedatel Na Makedonskata Organizacija VMRO-MNM
Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet


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RE: Ogromnata omraza kaj Makedoncite si prodolzuva, parmenio, 26-Jun-03, (1)
RE: Ogromnata omraza kaj Makedoncite si prodolzuva, Silvana, 26-Jun-03, (2)
RE: Ogromnata omraza kaj Makedoncitesi prodolzuva, Karabdalica, 26-Jun-03, 
(3)
RE: Ogromnata omraza kaj Makedoncite si prodolzuva, TREPET, 26-Jun-03, (4)
RE: Parmenio citaj go ovaj mnogo vazen dokument, TREPET, 26-Jun-03, (6)

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parmenio 26-Jun-03, 01:01 AM (GMT)
1. "RE: Ogromnata omraza kaj Makedoncite si prodolzuva!"

So ogled na toa deka obicno ne ja citam "beletristikata" na Trepet i od 
nekakva pricina ovojpat uspeav da go procitam/"svaram" celiot post dojdov do 
nekolku zaklucoci...

1) Trepet e ala Charles Dickens...

2) Slednovo e izvadok od negoviot post.

Jas i Makedonskata vistinska, realna i cesna komitska i patriotska 
organizacija VMRO-MNM (MAKEDONIJA NA MAKEODNCITE). Ne sme podrzani niti sme 
finaciski pomognati od Makedonskiot narod, a da ne zborime od Makeodnskite 
biznismeni, mozam da kazam samo 0000000%.

So ogled na toa deka sam kazuva deka ne e podrzan od Makedonskiot narod 
(podrska =0%, ni finansiska ni moralna), znaci deka ideite i metodite na 
deckovo ne se prifateni od nieden Makedonec. Jas sum malku spor taka da ne 
mi e jasno kako moze narodot da ne prifati ni edna od tvoite idei a da si 
najgolemiot patriot????!?!?! Bi bil blagodaren ako ova nekoj mi go odgovori.

3) Zini zemjo goltni me so kogo sum vo ist narod. Pazete ja slednava misla. 
Ti trebaat dobri ideii i sigurni planovi da napravis "nesto". A za 
pari...lesna rabota...ke opljackas nekogo...moeto prasanje e dali treba da 
se plackaat Albancite ili Makedoncite...ili kogo ke stignes...

Jas pak ke se povratam za tvoite 300 luge i sto raspolagate so oruzje. Vidi 
vaka imas 300 luge i raspolagas so oruzje. Sto ti trebat pari za da ubivas 
siptarski gnasotii kako pilci. Tebe ti trebat samo dobri ideei i sigurni 
planovi kako treba da se izvrsuvat akciite i operaciite. A za pari mozat da 
se snabdat koga imas 300 borci i raspolagas so oruzje....

4) Rabotava mi lici na epizoda na pinky and the brain. Za onie koj ne znaat, 
pinky and the brain e crtan film. Se raboti za dve gluvcinja koi sakaat da 
go osvojat svetot. Brain (mozokot) stalno pravi "sigurni planovi" ama za 
belja planovite stalno im propagjaat. I vo sekoja osoba pinky go prasuva The 
Brain...sto ke pravime deneska...a toj odgovara deka ke planiraat kako da go 
osvojat svetot...

5) Utepav 20tina minuti da go procitam/odgovoram na postot. Ova se sigurno 
edni od najloso potrosenite 20tina minuti od mojot zivot...

P-

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Silvana 26-Jun-03, 02:10 AM (GMT)
2. "RE: Ogromnata omraza kaj Makedoncite si prodolzuva!"

    5) Utepav 20tina minuti da go procitam/odgovoram na postot. Ova se 
sigurno edni od najloso potrosenite 20tina minuti od mojot zivot...

Ne si ni prv ni posleden
Mislam deka skoro sekoj na forumov po ednas potrosil 20 min. na toj nacin

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TREPET 26-Jun-03, 01:09 PM (GMT)
4. "RE: Ogromnata omraza kaj Makedoncite si prodolzuva!"

Vnatresna Makedonska Revolucionerna Organizacija - Makedonija Na Makedoncite 
(VMRO-MNM)!
Pretsedatel: Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet

Privremen kontakt na E-mail adresata Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet 
<redacted@hotmail.com>

26 Juni 2003 g.

Zdravo zivo Parmenio,

Jas ke bidam kratok na tvojata negativna reakcija, posto se spremam na pat. 
Sakam samo da ti kazam za mojata izjava deka ne sum bil podrzan od 
Makedonskiot narod, ne mora da znaci deka e na 0%. Jas rekov finaciski so 0% 
ne e podzana i pomognata Organizacijata VMRO-MNM.
A za moite ogromni aktivnosti i borbi za Makeodnskata kauza i za zastita na 
Makedonskite drzavni i nacionalni interesi sum podrzan od masa na Makeodnski 
narod i imam golem broj na simpatizeri. No za zal, Makedonskiot narod e vo 
prokleto i dusmansko ropstvo i ne smee javno da si gi kaze svoite mislenje i 
na kogo bi ja dal negovata podrska. Mnogo moi simpatizeri i clenovi na 
Organizacijata VMRO-MNM se pod stroga spjunska kontrola, mnogo od niv bea 
privedeni vo anti makedonskite i siptaro teroristickite "policajski stanici" 
i se maltretirani psihicki i fizicki. Isto taka ne si me svatil za moite 
idei deka ne se bile prifateni. Da moite idei ne se prifateni od celiot 
Makedonski narod, no se prifateni od mnogo Makedonci koj sto znaat za mene, 
a za zal i golema steta sto celiot Makeodnski narod ne e zapoznaen za mene i 
za Organizacijata VMRO-MNM, posto anti makedonskite mediumi se meiumi za 
vnatresnite i nadvoresnite zlocinski i dusmanski neprijateli i okupatori.
I tuka gresis, jas nesum kriminalec za da pljackam i na toj nacin da se 
dojde do pari za snabduvanje na materijalni sretstva za borba protiv 
Makedonskite izrodi, predavnicki zverovi - zverski i za borba protiv 
nadvoresnite dusmanski neprijateli i okupatori.

Parmenio imas pogresno mislenje kon mene i naj verovatno ne si dovolno 
procital i slusnal za mojata realnost, za moite ogromni aktivnosti i borbi 
za Makedonskata kauza i za zastita na Makedonskite nacionalni i drzavni 
interesi. Na ovaj forum imam ostaveno del na postovi koj sto se napisani na 
angliski jazi i treba da gi procitas.
Jas bev edinstveniot na ovaj foru sto reagirav i sto ti dadov podrska na 
tvojot post

"Mene nesto ne mi e jasno..."
Posted by parmenio on 14-Jun-03 at 00:50 AM

No za zal, odnosno za golema sramota i bruka od strana na administratorot 
admin go izbrisa mojot post sto reagirav i te podrzav. Jas veruvam deka ti 
ne si go procital mojot post. Ako sakas da ja procitas mojata reakcija na 
tvojot post javi mi se na mojata E-mail adresa i jas ke ti ja ispratam.

Parmenio mnogo nemoj da im veruvas na ovie "makedonski avtori" sto pisuvat 
na ovaj forum, pa niti i na drugi forumi. Posto od niv ne se znaee koj e 
Makeodnec (Kako naprimer taka narecenito "profesor" karabdalica, po moj 
zaklucok karabdalica e siptar i e pusten za da pravi provokacii i omrazi kaj 
Makedoncite), tuka ne se znae koj e siptarski ekstremisticki i teroristicki 
provokator, koj e srpsko cetnicki provokator, koj e mongolsko tatarski 
provokator, koj e kiprijanski fasisticki provokator (mislam na taka 
narecenite "grcki" provokatori) i ne se znae koj e anti makedonec, izrod, 
predavnicki zver se razbira od makeodnski rod. Jas veruvam deka na forumite 
se pogolem broj nadvoresni i vnatresni plateni spijuni, agenti, zagari, 
kuriri, provokatori i agresori koj sto mu stvarat ogromni problemi na 
dobriot, verniot, cesniot, realniot, zagrozeniot, napateniot i porobeniot 
Makedonskiot narod i na Makeodnskiot patriotizam.

Velis deka si: (5) Utepav 20tina minuti da go procitam/odgovoram na postot. 
Ova se sigurno edni od najloso potrosenite 20tina minuti od mojot zivot...)
Pa vidi ako ti e zal sto si gi potrosil tie 20tina minuti za da procitas za 
mene togas ne treba povise da trosis niti edna sekunda.
Jas veruvam i sum ubeden za toa deka ke dojde den koj sto mnogo od 
Makedoncite ke se custvuvat vinovni sto mi gi upatuvale i sto ke gi upatuvat 
nivnite negativni kritiki kon mene.....

Eve jas ke ti dadam edna adresa na eden drug Makedonski forum i tamo ke 
sretnes mnogo interesni raboti pub15.ezboard.com/bbidichesen

SO MAKEDONSKI BRATSKI, KOMITSKI I PATRIOTSKI POZDRAVI DO SITE DOBRI, VERNI, 
CESNI, REALNI, ZAGROZENI, NAPATENI I POROBENI MAKEDONCI!

VECNO DA ZIVEE MAKEDONSKATA ZEMJA!

VECNO DA ZIVEE MAKEDONSKIOT NAROD!

GOSPOD DA JA BLAGOSLOVI NASATA ZEMJA MAKEDONIJA I GOSPOD DA GO BLAGOSLOVI 
NASIOT MAKEDONSKI NAROD!

SMRT ZA SIPTARISKITE-BALISTI, EKSTREMISTI, TERORISTI, FASISTI, NACISTI, 
PEDOFILI, PSIHOPATI, SIZOFRENICARI, UBICI I MAFIJASKI BANDITI!

SMRT ZA SITE ZAPADNI OKUPATORSKI CIZMARI, NACISTI, FASISTI, VARVARI, 
TERORISTI, BIOKRATSKI BANDITI, AGRESORI, PEDOFILI, PSIHOPATI, SIZOFRENICARI 
I FANATICI STO SE VO NASATA MILA I SAKANA TATKOVINA MAKEDONIJA!

SMRT ZA IZRODITE MAKEDONSKI PREDAVNICKI ZVEROVI-ZVERSKI!

SLOBODA ILI SMRT ZA MAKEDONSKATA DRZAVA I ZA MAKEDONSKIOT NAROD!

EDEN ZA SITE I SITE ZA EDEN!

VECNO DA ZIVEE VNATRESNA MAKEDONSKA REVOLUCIONERNA ORGANIZACIJA - MAKEDONIJA 
NA MAKEDONCITE (VMRO-MNM)!

JAS SUM MAKEDONEC A NE FYROMEC!

NIE SME MAKEDONCI A NE FYROMCI!

MAKEDONIJA NA MAKEDONCITE!

TOA E PORAKATA OD VISTINSKIOT, REALNIOT I CESENIOT MAKEDONSKI KOMITA I 
PATRIOT TREPET I OD SITE HRABRI I GORDI MAKEDONSKI KOMITI, PATRIOTI I 
BORCI......

Pretsedatel Na Makedonskata Organizacija VMRO-MNM
Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet

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TREPET 26-Jun-03, 02:17 PM (GMT)
6. "RE: Parmenio citaj go ovaj mnogo vazen dokument!"

Letter to the Holiness, the Bishop of Rome, Johannes Paulus!

VMRO-MNM (Macedonia for the Macedonians)!

Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet
Koppargården 13 C
261 43 LANDSKRONA
SWEDEN

Tel/fax: 46 136 24

November 7, 1997

To the Holiness, the Bishop of Rome, Johannes Paulus II

I am writing to your Holiness concerning Macedonia and the Macedonian 
people's suffering.

Your Holiness know yourself how many years the Macedonian people have 
suffered. They have been tortured, murdered, slaughtered. Still today this 
happens to the Macedonian people. Your Holiness know yourself how many 
Macedonians there are in the world that have been forced to leave their 
homes so that they will not be killed. Masses of people have been thrown out 
of their country.

Your Holiness know that Macedonia was shattered into 3 parts, August 10th 
1913. According to the Bucharest treaty the occupied territories shall be 
returned in 1998, but no one has mentioned this or had a discussion about 
this.

The Macedonian nation demands that the world accept us as a nationality, a 
nationality that are several thousand years old. We also demand that the 
Athenians pay damages for the sufferings they have caused the Macedonian 
nation and for the destruction of the Macedonian statues and for forging the 
history.

We ourselves have found many evidence about the Macedonian history and about 
the Macedonian nation.
We have existed in thousands of years, we have our language, our own 
alphabet and our own symbols, but still the Western World is against us. 
They support Athens and Bulgaria, although this two countries have no 
evidence, only false propaganda.

The Vatican has in its archives, documents from the Macedonian Royal Dynasty 
and from the library of Aleksandar Makedonski the Great. In the Vatican, in 
Turkey and Egypt the whole history of Macedonia are gathered. There you can 
also find the Macedonian symbols.

That is why I ask your Holiness to be permitted to visit you as soon as your 
Holiness have the opportunity, to discuss the important issue concerning the 
history of Macedonia.

I will also ask the Turkish Government and the Egyptian Government to 
receive me for a discussion about the history of Macedonia.

In schools all around the world, the children are being taught the false 
history about Macedonia. One day, as soon as possible, this false history 
against the Macedonian nation must have an end.

I thank your Holiness for your patience in reading my letter.

I wish your Holiness a long life and above all a good health.

Yours faithfully,

Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet
President of VMRO-MNM

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From: "Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet" <redacted@hotmail.com>
To: <redacted@yahoo.com>
CC: redacted@hotmail.com, 
redacted@hotmail.com
Subject: Re: ne bidi jak na vilica

Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 18:35:56 +0000
From: xxxxx xxxxxxxx <redacted@yahoo.com>
To: Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet <redacted@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: ne bidi jak na vilica
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 18:23:31 -0700 (PDT)

abre brate kako bes pari nie site imame decinja site imame nekoja si rabota 
koja krpime kraj so kraj treba li da se kupi eksploziv treba li da se 
namesti treba li da se izviduva pred i da se sokriesh posle a doma treba li 
neshto da jadat nie ako sme vo ilegala moite 3 deca ke gladuvaat i. t. n. 
treba li da se podmiti nachalnici inspektori zoshto ovie od nato i eu ke im 
vikaat sto pravite go rusite i ramkovniot dogovor i sozhivotot ti mislis 
samo so muabet ke se postigne neshto brate. ajde da ja napravime ovaa rabota 
da bide mashka makedonska rabota pa da vidish krv shiptarska do kolena nie 
glavite nashi gi stavame v torba a vie nejkete parite stavete gi na notar po 
eden shiptarski komandant 25000evra ako sakash da go doznaesh mojot 
identitet znam deka imash dostap do policiskiot kompjuter proveri.

Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet <redacted@hotmail.com> wrote:

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Zdravo zivo brat Makedonec,

Bratko mnogo slabo gi analiziras moite analizi!

Od se srce vi pozakuvam da vi se zdravi i zivi decinjata, a i vodno im 
posakuvam da se zdravi i zivi site Makedonski decinja od dobri, cesni, 
verni, realni, zagrozeni, napateni i porbeni Makeodnski roditeli.

Abre brate se razbira deka bez pari ne moze da se vodi vojna i da se 
izvrsuvat seriozni akcii i operacii.
Bratko jas ne rekov deka bez pari moze da se borime. Jas rekov parite ke se 
snabdat od koga ke imame dovolno na realni, cesni, verni i vistinski borci. 
Znam deka site tie Makedonski borci sto se odlucile za borba protiv 
agresorite, protiv vnatresnite i nadvoresnite dusmanski neprijateli i protiv 
okupatorite na Makeodnskata drzava i na Makeodnskiot narod, gi imat staveno 
svoite glavi vo torba, koj sto i jas sum vo istata situacija.

Jas neznam kavi idei i planovi imas, no kolku sto te citam, tvoite idei i 
planovi nema da bidat uspesni (Se nadevam deka nema da mi zameres za moite 
kritiki).

So mnogo dobri idei i planovi za isvsuvanje na seriozni borbeni akcii i 
operacii, ne treba da bideme vo ilegala niti da stradat nasite decinja, niti 
pak da se plasime od neuspesni akcii i oeracii.

Odma vo startot si vo ogromni kiksovi i neuspesni borbeni akcii i operacii 
ako mislis da podmituvas Makeodnski nachalnici i inspektori.
Eve jas za naj ednostaven nacin i naj prosto ke ti kazam zosto ne uspesno ke 
ti bide.
Kako prvo: Ti si lider na 300 hrabri borci koj sto se spremni da se borat. 
Dali ti seuste ne znaes deka naj opasno e da potplakjas, odnosno da plakjas 
pari na svoi Makedonski nacalnici, inspektori, politicari, parlamentarni 
pratenici, oficeri, sudii, javni oveniteli, advokati i dr. za borba protiv 
neprijatelite, agresorite i okupatorite na Makeodnskata drzava i na 
Makeodnskiot narod. Vo ovo denesno vreme nasata ni mila i sakana tatkovina 
Makedonija e prepolna i so agenti, spijuni, kuriri i zagaro od Makedonski 
rod koj sto se prodadeni za pari na nadvoresnite zverski, zlocinski i 
dusmanski neprijateli, agresori, okupatori i bafijaski banditi. Bilo koj od 
tie sto ti gi spomnav da platis, odnosno da gi podmitime, veruvaj mi vo toa 
deka toj tie po davanjeto parite vo nivni race i cim im go svrtes grbot za 
da zamines, odma ke ti go zabodat golemiot NOZ V GRB. Tie se prvite koj sto 
kje ne predadat na nivnite nadvoresni sefovi-bosovi. Toa e naj golema greska 
da podmituvas, da potplatuvas svoi Makeodnci za borba protiv dusmanskite 
nerijateli, agresori i okupatori na Makedonskata drzava i na Makeodnskiot 
narod...Se dodeka Makedonec si dozvoluva da bide podmiten i koruptiran da 
zima pari od svoi Makeodnski komiti, patrioti i borci togas begaj sto 
podaleku od takvi gnasni prodadeni dusi. Takvite Makedonci gnasni prodaeni 
dusi treba na lice mesto da im se osecat glavite, a ne da gi zbogatuvame 
prokletite zlocinski i dusmnaski Makedonski izrodi, predavnicki 
zverovi-zverski za odbrana, za obedinuvanje na Makedonskata drzava i za 
zastita i spas na dobriot, verniot, cesniot, realniot, napateniot, 
zagrozeniot i porobeniot Makedonski narod.

Nemoj mnogo da se sekiras i da bides zabrinet sto zapadnite nacisticki, 
fasisticki, varvarski, teroristicki, agresorski, okupatorski, pedofilski, 
psihopatski, sizofrenicarski i mafijo banditskite organizacii eu i nato ke 
recele sto pravite go rusite i prokletiot, gnasniot i unistuvacki ramkoven 
dogovor i sozivotot.
Brate toj prokleti, gnasni i unistuvacki ramkoven dogovor go potpisaa naj 
golemite Makedonski prokleti, gnasni sizofrenicari, pedofili, psihopati, 
mafijaski banditi, izrodi, predavniciki zverovi-zverski, se razbira vo 
prisustvo na zapadnite prokleti i gnasni nacistim fasisti, fanatici, 
agresori, teroristi, pedofili, psihopati, sizofrenicari i mafijaski banditi 
i so zasmrdenite gnasotii siptarskite ekstremisti, nacistim fasisti, 
agresori, teroristi, pedofili, psihopati, sizofrenicari i mafijaski banditi.
Za mene i za Vnattresna Makedonska Revolucionerna Organizacija - Makedonija 
Na Makeodncite (VMRO-MNM). Toj gnasen, proklet i unistivacki ramkoven 
dogovor ne e prifaten niti pak egzistira. Niti pak prifakjame prokleto ime 
"fyrom", ventilator i sve drugi unistuvanja na nasat ni mila i sakana Majka 
Makedonija i na Makedonskiot narod.
Eve deneska Makeodnskite prokleti izrodi, predavnicki zverovi-zverski i 
mafijaski banditi potpisaa dokument-dogovor za podrska so amerikanskite 
nacisti, fasisti, agresori, varvari, provokatori, teroristi, mafijaski 
banditi i okupatori za da ne se predavat odnosno osuduvat vo Megjunarodniot 
krivicen sud ("MKS") nivnite kriminalci i voeni zlocinci. I toj dokument za 
mene i za Organizacijata VMRO-MNM e nevaeci i ne go prifakjame.
Gore spomentatite gnasni, prokleti i unistuvacki organicaii eu i nato, neka 
napravat, odnosno neka potpisat takov ramkoven dogovor vo nivnite zapadni 
anti demokratski, diktatorski, nacisticki, fasisticki, varvarski, 
agresorski, pedofolski, psihopatski, sizofrenicarski i mafijo baditski 
zemji. Pa togas mozat da kritikuvat da se mesat vo vnatresnosta na 
Makedonskata drzava.
Brate jas ne znam kolku si ti zapoznaen so "zapadnite demokratski, realni i 
solidarni zemji". No jas samo na kratko ke ti kazam za ogromnite 
zagrozuvanja i diskriminacii se razbira nadvor od zapadnit granici na 
stranicite, vo nivnite anti demokratski, diktatorski, nacisticki, 
fasisticki, varvarski, agresorski, pedofolski, psihopatski, sizofrenicarski 
i mafijo baditski zemji. Vo tie zapadni zemji strancite nemat nikavi prava, 
morat da kjutat, ne smeat da se pobunat deka se custuvat zagrozeni i 
diskriminirani, odnosno deka se osteteni dali zdrastveno (ili umrel-ubien 
nekoj od nivnite semejstva), opljackan so pari, diskriminiran na rabotno 
mesto, diskriminiran od zavot za zaposluvanje, diskriminiran od sindikati, 
kazneti za ne napraveni krivicni dela, se razbira bez dokazi i.dr. i ako 
nekoj stranec pobara pomos, se razbira preko advokat, policija, sudstvo, 
mediumski, ili predade, odnosno pobara pomos od evropskiot sud za covekovi 
prava vo Stralsburg ili na internacionalen sud, se znae koi luge odlucuvat 
vo tie institucii zapadni biokrati-kapetalisti. Naj iskreno receno nemat 
podrska i pomos nego site vrati im se zatvoreni. Strancite vo nivnite zemji 
se tretorat kako treta klasa posle zivotnite. Strancite stradat od ovaj 
nivni ekstremisticki razizam-nacizam. A koga ke odat vo drugi zemji, nadvor 
od nivnite zemji se pravat deka se golemi demokratski, realni i solidarni 
zemji. Zatoa sto toj narod vo drugite zemji ne znaat niti se mediumski 
informirani kako nivnite rodnini, brakja sestri i prijateli vo zapadnite 
zemji se treritat kako treta klasa posle zivotnite i se zagrozeni nivnite 
zivoti kako i diskriminirani so odzimanje na covekovite prava.
Da ima mnogo stranci koj sto ziveeat golem lugsuzni zivot, so luksuzni 
golemi stanovi od vrednost na 100-200-300-400 iljadi evra, so luksuzni 
golemi vili od vrednost na 300-400-500 iljadi evra a i so milonski evra i so 
lukzuzni koli od vrednost na 50-100-150-200-300 iljadi evra. A tie stranci 
sto ziveeat takov luksuzni zivot se golemi kriminalci koj sto rabotat za 
zapadnite nacisticki, fasisticki, teroristicki, varvarski, pedofolski, 
psihopatski, sizofrenicarski i biokratski mafijo banditski organizacii EU i 
NATO.
Eve deneska citam na elektronskite mediumski informativni agencii. Deka eden 
zapadni mafijaski bandit Matser bil uapsen (za moe mislenje mafijaskiot 
bandit e uapsen samo za 2-3 sati i potoa pak na sloboda i na rabota so 
kriminalot) i deka bil eden od naj golem i naj bliski sorabotnik na 
generalniot sekretar na nato Gjorgj Robertson-Majmunot. Matser e uapsen za 
perenje na pari od suma na 180 miljoni dolari, koj sto gji zarabotuval od 
prodazba na droga. A nisto ne me cudi i da e preprodavl oruzje i 
preprodavanje na kradeni i kidnapirani decinja nadvor od zapadnite zemji za 
da bidat roboti na prostitucja vo zapadnite zemji. E ne sum bil so grska sto 
javno imam kazuvano za zapadnite "demokratski, solidarni i realni 
politicari" deka se golemi mafijaski banditi, teroristi, nasisti, fasisti, 
fanatici, varvari, pedofili, psihopati i sizofrenicari. Toa se veli i e 
dokazano deka zapadnite "politicari" se golemi mafijaski banditi, pedofoli, 
psihopati, sizofrenicari i teroristi.

Makeodnski brate, vo pocetok mora so muabeti, so dokumenti i so fakti da se 
borime protiv nasite vnatersni i nadvoresni prokleti neprijateli, agresori, 
dusmani i okupatori.
A i so muabeti treba nie Makeodnskite komiti, patrioti i borci da se 
zapoznaeme i da se organizirame.
I jas sum za zestoki borbi protiv gnasnoto i zasmrdenoto siptarsko 
ekstremisticko, nacisticko, fasisticko, teroristicko, agresorsko, 
pedofilsko, psihopatsko, sizofrenicarsko i mafijo banditsko pleme. I za 
zestoki borbi protiv Makedonskite izrodi, predavnicki zverovi-zverski i 
mafijaski banditi. Kako i za zestoki borbi protiv zapadnite nacisti, 
fasisti, varvari, fanatici, agresori, provokatori, teroristi, pedofili, 
psihopati, sizofrenicari i mafijaski banditi.
Za da se zapocnat seriozni i zestoki borbeni akcii i operacii protiv nasite 
agresori, neprijateli i okupatori, ke ni trebat seriozni i realni Makeodnski 
komiti, patrioti i borci. A ne samo da bidat jaki na zborovi i da se udirat 
vo gradi deka ke se borat a od koga ke gi povikas na sredba za da se dobjat 
zadacite za izvrsuvanje na akciite i operaciite togas gi nema, mnogo od niv 
mi velat treba da se dadat nekolku iljadi dolari, evra za da im ostavam na 
decata za da jadat.
No sepak jas ne velam deka nema seriozni i cesni Makeodnski komiti, patrioti 
i borci. Ima i toa preko 100 iljadi Makedonski komiti, patrioti i borci koj 
sto se spremni za zestoki borbi, no treba tie Makedonski komiti, patrioti i 
borci da se pronajdat i da bidat zapoznaeni za nas.
Bratko za moite idei i planovi za zestoki borbeni akcii i opreacii nemozam 
da ti gi kazuvam na internet poraki, za takvi diskusii ke treba da se 
sretneme oci vo oci i da se dobro zapoznaeme. Posto moite idei i planovi se 
mnogo vazni i golemi a i 1000% ke bidat uspesni. Jas sum bil vo nasata ni 
mila i sakana tatkovina Makeodnija i pak ke dojdam. Moite dve poranesni 
sredbi so Makedonskite komiti, patrioti i borci ne bea uspesni, no se 
nadevam, odnosno veruvam vo sebe deka tretata, cetrvrtata ili petata sredba 
ke bide uspesna i resena za zestoki borbeni akcii i operacii. ODNOSNO ZA 
KREVANJE NA MAKEDONSKO NACIONALNO VOSTANIE. Veruvaj mi deka so moite idei za 
7dum dena ja obedinuvame rasparcenata ni mila i sakana Majka Makedonija i go 
spasuvame dobriot, verniot, cesniot, realniot, zagrozeniot, napateniot i 
porobeniot Makedonski narod. A za tie moi idei mi se potrebni seriozni, 
realni i cesni Makedonski komiti, patrioti i borci.......
Veruvaj vo mene deka jas ke gi donesam vo Makedonskata drzava od site drzavi 
na svetot nivnite drzavni sefovi i ke se napravi internacionalna 
konferencija i toa ke bide javno izjavena, koj sto site sefovi na drzavite 
ke potpisat dokumenti koj sto nie Makedoncite gi barame po prav pat i gi 
zasluzuvame.

Brate nemoj da mislis deka jas i Organizacijata VMRO-MNM nemame podrska od 
Makedonski narod. Da imame i toa golemi podrski a i masivno na Makedonski 
simpatizeri. No za zal nasite simpatizeri se plasat javno da si gi kazat 
nivnite mislenja so nivnite podrski kon mene i kon Organizacijata VMRO-MNM. 
Mnogo nasi Makedonski simpatizeri se maltretirani psihicki i fizicki i se 
imat zastrasuvano, pa im se imat zakanuvano ako i vo idnina ne podrzavat. A 
toa se znae koj toa go raboti Makedonskite prokleti dusmanski izrodi, 
predavnicki zverovi-zverski i mafijaski banditi koj sto ja imat vlasta vo 
nivni race zaedno so siptarskite ekstremisti, teroristi, nacisti, fasisti, 
pedofili, psihopati, sizofrenicari i mafijaski banditi. Sepak nema da im se 
uplasime i nema da ne uplasat niti pak nema da uspeat da ne unistat, nie ke 
se borime i vo idnina.

Sega za sega tolku od mene pa do citanje.

SO MAKEDONSKI BRATSKI, KOMITSKI I PATRIOTSKI POZDRAVI DO SITE DOBRI, VERNI, 
CESNI, REALNI, ZAGROZENI, NAPATENI I POROBENI MAKEDONCI!

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SMRT ZA SITE ZAPADNI OKUPATORSKI CIZMARI, NACISTI, FASISTI, VARVARI, 
TERORISTI, BIOKRATSKI BANDITI, AGRESORI, PEDOFILI, PSIHOPATI, SIZOFRENICARI 
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Subject: E-mail so informacija od [macedonian1] PRETEPANI DVAJCA MAKEDONCI 
OD BLAGOEVGRAD
Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 19:30:08 +0000

Komito eve ti E-mail poraka so informacija od nas Makeodnski brat 
[macedonian1] PRETEPANI DVAJCA MAKEDONCI OD BLAGOEVGRAD.

Ova informacija i mojot odgovor treba pod itno da se postavat kako post na 
taka narecenite Makedonski forumi i na E-mail adresi na nasi Makeodnci.

So Makeodnski bratski, komitski i patriotski pozdravi.


TREPET


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Vo petokot na 21. 03. 2003 g, vo ve~ernite ~asovi, pred zgradata na 
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CC: redacted@hotmail.com, 
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Subject: Re: [macedonian1] PRETEPANI DVAJCA MAKEDONCI OD BLAGOEVGRAD
Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 19:18:54 +0000

Vnatresna Makedonska Revolucionerna Organizacija - Makedonija Na Makedoncite 
(VMRO-MNM)!
Pretsedatel: Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet

14 juli 2003

Zdravo zivo brat,

Kako prvo bratski pozdravi i voedno ti se zablagodaruvam za tvojata E-mail 
poraka so mnogo vaznata informacija.

Brat dlaboko zalam za nasite dvajca Makedonski braka koj sto se nevino i 
nedolzni i zverski pretepani (Isto se custvuvam deka mene me imat zverski 
pretepano) od gnasnite mongolskite tatarski, sevonisticki, vrhovisticki, 
nacisticki, fasisticki, sizofrenicarski, teroristicki i okupatorski 
dzandarmeri. Moeto sozaluvanje e i voedno moe krajno razacaruvanje i se 
custvuvam krajno revoltiran i provociran od tie nasi neprijateli, zlocinci i 
dusmani sto macele, sto ubivale, sto piele i seuste, macat, ubivat i pijat 
Makeodnska krv.

Brat tvojata poraka so informacijata  ne si ja dozavrsil kako sto treba. Te 
molam ako sakas da mi objasnis povise za nasite pretepani Makeodnski braka. 
I uste nesto Attachmenot ne mozev da go otvoram, te molam da mi go prpratis 
kako sto mi ja napisa E-mail porakata. Takvi informacii morat da se prifatat 
mnogo seriozni i vo naj brzo vreme so reagiranje protiv gnasnite mongoski 
tatari, agesorite, nacistite, fasistite, sevonistite, sizofrenicarite, 
teroristite i okupatorite.

Brat sega za sega tolku od mene pa do naj bzo citanje.

P.S. Brat ako slucajno ti licno gi poznavas nasite Makeodnski braka sto se 
zverski i dusmanski pretepani od mongolskite tatarki gnasni teroristicki 
dzandarmeri. Te molam da pojdes kaj niv i da im ja preneses mojata porak za 
brgo ozdravuvanje i ono ako sakat da mi se javat na mojata E-mail adresa 
redacted@hotmail.com

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VECNO DA ZIVEE MAKEDONSKATA ZEMJA!

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Subject: [macedonian1] PRETEPANI DVAJCA MAKEDONCI OD BLAGOEVGRAD
Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 20:18:49 +1000

PRETEPANI DVAJCA MAKEDONCI OD BLAGOEVGRAD

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(Pi{uva: Mi{o Juzmeski)

Vo petokot na 21. 03. 2003 g, vo ve~ernite ~asovi, pred zgradata na
Op{tinata Blagoevgrad, bez nekakov direkten povod bea napadnati i na
yverski na~in pretepani dvajca lokalni Makedonci. Edinstvenata nivna
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MittagLeffler 04-Aug-03, 04:21 PM (GMT)
"Valja imati i ponekog prijatelja, zar ne?"

Pratim ovaj forum neko vreme i nikako jednu stvar da razumem: kako to da 
vama (Makedoncima) ama bas niko od komsija ne valja?

- Siptari vam ne valjaju jer vam otimaju zemlju. No dobro, ostavimo Siptare 
za sada na miru, oni ionako nikome u Evropi ne valjaju, pa sto bi valjali 
vama?
- Grci vam ne valjaju jer vam ne daju ime
- Bugari vam ne valjaju jer vam ne daju naciju
- Srbi (tj. mi) vam ne valjamo jer vam ne damo crkvu

Stvarno, ima li neko od komsija da vam valja, ili je sve to neka vasa 
paranoja?

'Ajde ovo za Bugare da razumem - u crno su vas nekad zavili. No i moje selo 
su nekad u crno zavili (iako je u srcu Srbije), ma je to bilo pre 60 godina, 
pa se zaboravilo.

Ajde da razumem i za Grke - ne daju da vam se drzzava zove kako bi oni 
hteli. FYROM je zaista nedostojno ime (po kome ispada da ste FYROM-ovci, a 
ne Makedonci).

No mi sve nikako nije jasno sto bre toliko mrzite nas Srbe? Priznajemo vam i 
naciju i ime, nemamo teritorijalnih pretenzija, nasa "okupacija" (ako se 
tako mozze zvati) je bila davno, trajala je kratko, a i nije bila osobito 
"krvava" (ma sta onaj sto se potpisuje sa Trepet srao). Osim toga, u Srbiji 
nikada nisam primetio da iko mrzi Makedonce, bas naprotiv... rado pevamo 
vasse pesme i igramo vasa kola, nijedan Makedonac u Beogradu se nije pozalio 
na los tretman zato sto je Makedonac. Eto, moj najbolji drugar u Beogradu je 
Makedonac, pa sta mu fali u Beogradu? Nista!

Eto, valja imati i prijatelje, u suprotnom si lud chovek. Odoh pre neki dan 
sa drusstvom u jedan grchki restoran u Kopenhagenu, gazda nas pita odakle 
smo. Kako rekosmo "Srbi", pocese Grci sa susednih stolova odmah da caste 
pice, te se igralo i lumpovalo do kasno, a gazda na kraju uopste nije hteo 
da nam naplati veceru. Bili smo do suza pocastvovani takvim gestom.

Zato, Makedonci: svak mora imati prijatelje! Za vas je verovatno najmanji 
korak da shvatite da smo vam mi Srbi ne samo braca, vecc i prijatelji, te bi 
vam ovo mogao biti prvi korak iz lanca nacionalizma u kakve su vas okovali 
ovakvi kao Trepet.

A koliko su ti lanci teski - to valjda mi Srbi ponajbolje znamo.

Mittag Leffler

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Dobronameren2, 04-Aug-03, (1)
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RE: Ale "Makedonski" razumesh shoto..., dadi, 06-Aug-03, (5)
RE: Ale , Dobronameren2, 06-Aug-03, (6)
RE: Ale , dadi, 06-Aug-03, (7)
makedoncite ne mrazat nikogo !!!, fidanco, 05-Aug-03, (4)
RE: makedoncite ne mrazat nikogo !!..., GanTREE, 06-Aug-03, (8)
RE: makedoncite ne mrazat nikogo !!..., sasoss, 07-Aug-03, (9)
RE: makedoncite ne mrazat nikogo !!..., GanTREE, 07-Aug-03, (10)
RE: Valja imati i ponekog prijatelj..., TREPET, 07-Aug-03, (11)
RE: Valja imati i ponekog prijatelj..., Dobronameren2, 07-Aug-03, (12)
RE: Valja imati i ponekog prijatelj... , GanTREE, 07-Aug-03, (13)
RE: Poraka za Makedoncite!, TREPET, 19-Aug-03, (14)

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Dobronameren2 04-Aug-03, 04:43 PM (GMT)
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MittagLeffler 04-Aug-03, 05:26 PM (GMT)
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Izvini ali slabo razumem bugarski... makedonski, nasuprot, mnogo bolje 
razumem (valjda zato sto smo u srecna vremena svi bili u istoj drzavi)

Medjutim, sve to nije ni bitno - post je ionako bio upucen Makedoncima (a ne 
Bugarima), zar ne?

Pozdrav
Mittag Leffler

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Dobronameren2 04-Aug-03, 06:31 PM (GMT)
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Nema nishto ! Ne trebe da razumesh.
Ale "Makedonski" razumesh shoto e "Made in Srbia"

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dadi 06-Aug-03, 09:02 AM (GMT)
5. "RE: Ale "Makedonski" razumesh shoto e "Made in Srbia"

>Nema nishto ! Ne trebe da razumesh. Ale "Makedonski" razumesh shoto e "Made 
>in Srbia"

A bre nesto se prasuvam DA NE BI TA SI BIL NA SPECIJALIZACIJA VO SRBIA pa 
taka dobro razumes makedonski?
I uste nesto
Daj molim te dogovori se so ganTREE i koristi kirilica (da ne ti nedostasuva 
slucajno? - toj ke ti dade - jas nemam - a ako imas daj mu ja i na nego - ne 
razbira siromaskiot)

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Dobronameren2 06-Aug-03, 02:08 PM (GMT)
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dadi 06-Aug-03, 08:05 PM (GMT)
7. "RE: Ale "

Da ti go pratam cresovoto topce?
Ili mozebi ke go iskoristis vaseto!

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fidanco 05-Aug-03, 05:03 AM (GMT)
4. "makedoncite ne mrazat nikogo !!!"

Makedoncite ne mrazat nikogo pa nitu sosedite kako sto vie navedovte srbi, 
bugari, grci pa i albancite!

NO NIE GI MRAZIME SLEDNITE:

-SITE KOI PODRZUVAAT MRACNA POLITIKA PROTIV MAKEDONIJA ZA SRBIJA SPC KOJA E 
ZASLEPENA SO NACINALISTICKA POLITIKA A NE SO DUHOT NAS HRISTIJANSTVOTO. 
POSLEDNIT CIN NA NEGACIJA NA MAKEDONSKATA DRZAVNOST -SV. PROHOR PCINSKI NA 
PRIMER STO TREBASE DA SE RPAVAT TAKVI RABOTI OD SPC DA SE EMSA VO POLITIKA? 
TE PRASUVAM TEBE GOSPODINE I AKO STE DOBRO NAMERNIK UAPTETE GI PRASANJATA NE 
NAM TUKU PREMA VASITE (NE ZBORAM ZA OBICNITE LJUGE SRBI TUKU NACINALISTITE 
KOI JA DOVEDUVA NE SAMO SRBIJA VO GOLEMO SRANJE SO NIVNITE POSTAPKI TUKU I 
CELIOT REGION VO SITE POLINJA) PROBLEMOT TREBA TAMU KAJ VAS DA GO BARATE A 
NE NAM DA UPATUVATE PRASANJA OD TKAOV KARAKTER.
NIE ME MRAZIME NIKOGO KOJ NE POCITUVA TAKVI KAKVI STO SMETAME DEKA SME NIE! 
VO SPROTIVNO NEMA KOMETAR.

ZA MENE LICNO DA SE KAZE MRAZITE NE DRZI TAKOV ISKAZ. NIE NIKOGO DOSEGA NE 
UGROZIVME A NAS SEKOJ NI IMA NASTETENO NA NE NAVLEGUVAM VO DETALI OD 
ISTORIJATA PA SE DO DEN DENSEN, PREISPITAJTE SE KE VIDITE. a ZA TOA PRASANJE 
PRIJATELI JAS GI IMAM I SRBI I BUGARI I HRVATI I GERMANCI I GRCI NA ZALOST 
SE USTE NE ALBANEC AMA AKO SE NAJDE COVEK SO COVECKI OSOBINI SPREMEN SUMD 
ARAZGOVARAM I PRIFATAM EDNA NORMALNA KOMUNIKACIJA. ZNACI ISKAZOT NE TI DRZI 
DEKA O GENERALNO SE MRZI EDEN NAROD TUKU SE MRAZI POLITIKATA SPROVEDENA 
SPRAM NAS MAKEDONCITE I AMKEDONSKTA DRZAVA OD BILO KOGO DALI SRBIJA, 
BUGARIJA, GRCIJA ILI ALBANIJA A POSEBNO LJUGETO KOI TOA GO SPROVEDUVAAT.

A ZA BUAGRITE DA KAZAM DEKA I TIE BOLUVAT OD GOLEMI ISOTRISKI PSIHOPASKI 
BOLESTI KOI NA GOLEMA ZALOST SETO TOA NIVNO ODNESUVANJE NE VODI NA DOBRO ZA 
ODNOSTITE POMEGJU DVATA NARODA MAKEDONSKIOT I BUGARSKIOT. SO VAKVOTO 
ATAKUVANJE KAKO STO GLEDATE I VIE NAVISTINA IMALI ILI DALI VOOPSTO TREBA DA 
SE IMA DISKUSIJA EDNOSTAVNO SE E KAZANO.

ISTO BUGARITE NE GI MRAZIME TUKU NAPROTIV KAKO BLIZOK NAROD NA MEDDONSKIOT 
GI POCITUVAME SITE DOBRONAMERNI I KOI GO RESPEKTIRAAT MAKEDONSKIOT NAROD 
MAKEDONSKTA DRZAVA, JAZIK KULTURA ISTORIJA A NE DA SE VELICAT KOLACI I 
UBIVACI KAKO VANCO MIHALOV I SLICNI NA NEGO. TAKVITE KOJ SO TAKVA NAMERA 
DOGJAAT VO MAKEDONIJA DA IM KAZAM DA VOOPSTO I DA EN POMISLUVAAT DA DOGJAT, 
A ISTITE I KAKO SRPSKITE NACINALISTI NA SHESHELJ POARNO I TIE DA NE 
POMISLUVAAT DA DOAGJAT ZA SITE TAKVI GLAVI NE IM MESTOTO ZA BALKANOT TUKU VO 
AFRIKA NEKADE PA NEKA SE IANZATEPAT DOBRO A OVDE DA GI OSTAVAT LJUGETO DA 
ZIVEEAT KAKO ZNAJAT I UMEAT.

NA SITE NEMA IM E JASNO DEKA MAKEDONIJA E REALNOST, DEKA MAEKDONKIOT NAROD E 
REALNOST DEKA MAKEDOSNKIOT JAZIK E TOJ STO SE ZBORI DEKA MAKEDONIJA SE VIKA 
TAKA KAKO STO SE VIKA DEKA MAKEDONSKATA HRISTIJANSKA CRKVA NE E SRPSKA TUKU 
TKAVA KAKVA STO E I DEKA TREBA DA IMA TRETMAN KAKO TREBA A NE VO PONIZUVACKO 
POSTAVUVANJE.

ZATOA AKO MU MISLITE DOBRO NA VASIOT NAROD DALI STE SRBI ILI BUGARI ILI GRCI 
ILI ALBANCI PRVO POBARAJTE GI PRICINITE ZA TAKVOTO REKCISKO ODNESUVANJE NA 
POEDINI MAKEDONCI SIGURNO ODGOVORITE KE GI NAJDETE VO VASITE ARHIVI 
ISTORISKI PA I VO VASITE POLITICKI ODNESUVANJA I DENESKA.


FIDANCO

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GanTREE 06-Aug-03, 08:35 PM (GMT)
8. "RE: makedoncite ne mrazat nikogo !!!"

>Makedoncite ne mrazat nikogo pa nitu sosedite kako sto vie navedovte srbi, 
>bugari, grci pa i albancite!
>
>NO NIE GI MRAZIME SLEDNITE:
>
>
>-SITE KOI PODRZUVAAT MRACNA POLITIKA PROTIV MAKEDONIJA ZA SRBIJA SPC KOJA E 
>ZASLEPENA SO NACINALISTICKA POLITIKA ...
>
>
>FIDANCO

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sasoss 07-Aug-03, 09:22 AM (GMT)
9. "RE: makedoncite ne mrazat nikogo !!!"

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GanTREE 07-Aug-03, 11:52 AM (GMT)
10. "RE: makedoncite ne mrazat nikogo !!!"

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TREPET 07-Aug-03, 08:10 PM (GMT)
11. "RE: Valja imati i ponekog prijatelja, zar ne?"

Vnatresna Makedonska Revolucionerna Organizacija - Makedonija Na Makedoncite 
(VMRO-MNM)!
Pretsedatel: Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet

Kontakt na privremeni E-mail adresi: Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet 
redacted@hotmail.com, Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet redacted@hotmail.com, 
VMRO-MNM TREPET redacted@hotmail.com, MACEDONIAN REVOLUTIONARY 
redacted@hotmail.com

7 Avgust 2003 g.

MittagLeffler,

Koj se tie "komsii" sto se prijateli na naptateniot, zagrozeniot i 
porobeniot Makedonski narod?

Nie Makedoncite nemame "komsii" sto ni cinat, posto site tie taka nareceni 
Makedonski "komsii" se nasi golemi neprijateli, dusmani i okupatori. Tie 
taka nareceni Makedonski "komsii" imat praveno i seuste pravat zversko, 
zlocinsko i dusmansko etnicko cistenje i genocid nad Makedonskiot narod. 
Isto taka tie taka nareceni Makedonski "komsii" gi imat ukradeno i 
falcifikovano Makeodnskata istorija, kultura, tradicii, pljackanje na 
Makedonskoto ogromno prirodno i istorisko bogatstvo i. dr.

Srbine ne se raboti sto novo dojdenite azijatski i arapski divi i 
karpetinski pleminja ne ni davale ime na nasata MAKEDONSKA DRZAVA, ne davale 
nacija MAKEDONSKA i ne davale MAKEDONSKA crkva. Nego se raboti sto tie novo 
dojdeni divi i karpetinski pleminja si nemat svoja istorija, kultura, 
tradicii, crva i drzavi pa taka da tie pleminja ja rasparcija STARO DREVNA 
MAKEDONSKA ZEMJA (MAKEDONSKATA DRZAVA) i go porobija STARO DREVNIOT 
MAKEDONSKI NAROD. I go kopiraa Makedonskiot jazik, ja kopiraa Makedonskata 
azbuka, ja kopiraa Makedonskata Pravoslavna Crkva (MPC). Pa sega ne 
priznavale Makedonska nacija, Makedonska drzava, Makeodnska crkva, 
Makedonska istorija, kultura, tradicii, Makedonska azbuka (Makedonsko pismo 
i dr). Toa sto se falis deka vie srbite ste ni priznale nacija i ime e vasa 
srpska propaganda. Ako ne bese G-din. Slobodan Milosevic na vlast nikogas 
srbite nemase da ne priznaea kako Makedonska nacija i pod ustavnoto ime 
Makeodnija. Slobodan Milosevic ne prasase nikogo za negovoto priznavanje 
iako site srpski politicari i crkvenite vrvni celnici bea protiv negovoto 
priznavanje. Isto taka ne sakaa i ne go prifakjaa priznavanjeto na Slobodan 
Milosevic i prokletite Makedonski izrodi, predavnicki zverovi-zverski, 
pedofili, psihoppati, sizofrenicari i mafijaski banditi od naj golemata anti 
makedonska, unistuvacka, mafijo banditska i teroristicka organizacija 
"sdsm"-sizofrenicarska.
Naj verovatno ti ne si zapoznaen za bobardiranjeto na srbija i crna gora od 
varvarskata i teroristickata organizacija nato deka i kiprijanskoto pleme 
bese za bombardiranje, duri i pat im dozvolija, posto Slobodan Milosevic ja 
prizna Makeodnskata nacija i Makedonskata drzava ja prizna pod ustavnoto i 
istoriskoto Makedonski ime.

Vie srbite od 1913 godina od koga go okupiravte Vardarskiot del na 
Makeodnija pa do den denes stvarate ogromni pretenzii i provokacii za 
unistuvanje na Makedonskata Pravoslavna Crkva (MPC).

Sto se raboti za siptarskoto ekstremisticko, nacisticko, fasisticko, 
teroristicko i mafijo banditsko zasmrdeno pleme ne treba i nikogas nema da 
gi ostavime na mir. Za site tie zverski i dusmanski zlostorstva sto gi imaa 
napraveno na Makedonskiot narod nema da im se zaboravi niti da im se 
oprosti, mislam licno za mene i od mene pa i od Organizacijata VMRO-MNM nema 
da im se zaboravi i da im se oprosti. Neodamna doznav deka vo zapadniot svet 
ima i se prodadeni od 30. 000 do 40. 000 iljadi mali devojcina i maski pa i 
povozrasni devocina kaj sto se prodadeni za robovi na prostitucija. Za tie 
30. 000 do 40. 000 iljadi mali devojcina i maski pa i povozrasni devojcina 
se doznava deka se ukradeni i kidnapirani od taka narecenata "albanija" se 
razbira od strana na siptarskite teroristicki i mafijo banditski 
organizacii. Tie mali devojcina i maski kako i povozrazni devojcina ne se 
siptaski kopilina nego site se Makedoncinja koj sto se ukradeni i 
kidnapirani a poveketo od niv se odzemeni, se razbira so ekstremisticki i 
teroristicki zakani pa i so fizicki torturi gi imat odzemeno decinjata od 
Makedonskite roditeli i od nivnite najbliski. Toa se dokazani fakti deka 
siptarski gadotii ne kradat i ne kidnapirat nivni zasmrdeni kopilinja i da 
gi prodavat za robovi na prostitucija vo zapadniot svet.

Site tie divi i karpetinski pleminja imaa praveno i seuste pravat zverski, 
zlocinski i dusmanski macenja, tortiranje, ubivanje, masakri na MAKEDONSKI 
NAROD (zverski i dusmanski silovanja na Makedonski devojcina i na zeni) i 
pieno i seuste pijat MAKEDONSKA KRV. Ti srbine nemoj da gi napagjas samo 
mongolskite tatari (po naj novo imenovani "bugari") deka vo crno ne zavile. 
I vie srbite ne ste bile podobri od mongolskite tatarski ekstremisti, 
nacisti, fasisti, sevonisti, vrhovisti, ubici i teroristi, pa i od 
kiprijanskite ekstremisti, nacisti, fasisti, ubici i teroristi (po naj novo 
imenovani "grci"), i od azijtskite kavkaski siptarski ekstremisti, nacisti, 
fasisti, ubici i teroristi.
Sepak ne mozam da ve napagjam i kritikuvam za poslednite 10-15 godini deka 
imate praveno zlostorstva na Makedonskiot narod, ne za tie posledni 10-15 
godini nemate praveno tavi zverski i dusmanski zlostorstva kako sto imavte 
praveno drugite godini od 1912-13tite godini pa do pred 15 godini.

Srbine zboruvas za prijateli i velis deka nemame teritoriski pretenizii. 
Kako nemame teritorialni pretenzii so vas srbite. Za mene i za 
Organizacijata VMRO-MNM postoi teritioralni pretenzii zatoa sto sve uste 
srbite imat pod nivna okupacija Makedonska teritorija. Makedonskata drzava 
ima teritorija pod srpska okupacija do Makedonskiot grad NIS gradot NIS e i 
rodeniot grad na eden od naj golemite Makedonski sinovi, rodeniot grad NIS e 
na Makedonskiot car Kostantin-Veliki.

Omrazata i nacionalizmot od Makedonskiot narod go napravia i go predizvikaa 
tokmu tie novo dojdenite azijatski, arapski divi i karpetinski pleminja na 
STARO DREVNATA MAKEDONSKA ZEMJA. A tie divi i karpetinski pleminja se 
Kineskoto divo i karpetinsko pleme (po novo "turci"). Kiprijanskoto divo 
pleme nacisti, fasisti i okupatori (po naj novo imenovano divo pleme 
"krci"). Mongolskoto tatarsko divo pleme sevonisti, frhovisti, nacisti, 
fasisti i okupatori (po naj novo imenovano divo pleme "bugari") . Azijatsko 
kavkasko divo, ekstremisticko, nacisticko, fasisticko i teroristicko 
albansko pleme. Srpskoto cetnicko, nacisticko i fasisticko pleme od 
Armenskite planini i karpetini. Pa isto taka omrazata i nacionalizmot go 
napravija i go predizvikaa ovie zapadnite nacisticki i fasisticki fanatici, 
so nivnite politicari fanatici, so nivnite profesori fanatici i 
falcifikatori, so nivnite istoricari fanatici i falcifikatori, so nivnite 
pisateli fanatici i falcifikatori, so nivnite aheolozi fanatici i 
falcifikatori, so nivnite agresorski, provokatorski i falcifikatorski 
masineriski mediumi i.t.n.
Tie gore spomenatitie nemat napraveno samo omraza nacionalizam kon 
Makedonskite taka nraeceni "komsii", nego imat napraveno ogromna omraza kon 
samiot Makedonski narod da megju sebe se mrazime i unistuvame. Makedonskiot 
narod e podelen na povise od 10 taka nareceni Makedonski "politicki partii i 
organizacii". Toa se dokazani fakti deka Makeodnskiot narod e podelen i e 
skaran za da si sami so sebe unistuvat i da si prodavat za mali pari svojata 
Makedonska zemja, Makedonskata nacija, Makedonskata istorija, kultura, 
tradicii i dr.

Makedonskiot narod e toj sto naj vise ima stradano od gore navedenite 
agresori, provokatori, ubici, teroristi, nacisti, fasisti, zagrozuvaci, 
falcifikatori i okupatori. Makedonskiot narod so vekovi ima stradano od gore 
navedenite pleminja i seuste ke strada ako vo naj itno vreme ne se obedini 
celiot Makedonski narod i da raboti so edinstvo za doroto na svojata 
Makedonska zemja i za obedinuvanje na rasparcenata ni Majka Makedonija. Se 
razbira i za vrakjanje na ukradenata nasa Makedonska istorija, kultura, 
tradicii, simboli i sve drugo sto mu pripagja na Makedonskiot narod i na 
Makedonskata drzava.

I na kraj, da ti kazam da site Makedonci se kako mene so golema gordost i 
golema ljubov kon mojata mila i sakana Majka Makedonija i kon dobriot, 
cesniot, verniot, realniot, zagrozeniot, napateniot i porobeniot Makedonski 
narod, veruvaj mi deka ke bideme naj jaka i naj stabilna nacija na svetot. I 
ke ja obedinime rasparcenata Makedonska zemja.......

VECNO DA ZIVEE MAKEDONSKATA ZEMJA!

VECNO DA ZIVEE MAKEDONSKIOT NAROD!

SMRT ZA SIPTARISKITE-BALISTI, TERORISTI I FASISTI!

SMRT ZA SITE ZAPADNI OKUPATORSKI CIZMARI, NACISTI, FASISTI, VARVARI, 
TERORISTI, BIOKRATI I FANATICI VO NASATA MILA I SAKANA TATKOVINA MAKEDONIJA!

SMRT ZA PROKLETITE MAKEDONSKI IZRODI, PREDAVNICKI ZVEROVI-ZVERSKI!

SLOBODA ILI SMRT ZA MAKEDONSKATA DRZAVA I ZA MAKEDONSKIOT NAROD!

EDEN ZA SITE I SITE ZA EDEN!

VECNO DA ZIVEE VNATRESNA MAKEDONSKA REVOLUCIONERNA ORGANIZACIJA VMRO-MNM 
(MAKEDONIJA NA MAKEDONCITE)!
GOSPOD DA JA BLAGOSLOVI NASATA MAJKA MAKEDONIJA!

GOSPOD DA GO BLAGOSLOVI DOBAROT, VERENIOT, CESENIOT, REALENIOT, NAPATENIOT, 
ZAGROZENIOT I POROBENIOT MAKEDONSKI NAROD!

GOSPOD DA JA BLAGOSLOVI VNATRESNA MAKEDONSKA REVOLUCIONERNA ORGANIZACIJA 
VMRO-MNM (MAKEDONIJA NA MAKEDONCITE)!

JAS SUM MAKEDONEC A NE FYROMEC!

NIE SME MAKEDONCI A NE FYROMCI!

MAKEDONIJA NA MAKEDONCITE!

TOA E PORAKATA OD MAKEDONSKIOT KOMITA I PATRIOT TREPET I OD SITE HRABRI I 
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P.S. SO MAKEDONSKI BRATSKI, KOMITSKI I PATRIOTSKI POZDRAVI DO SITE DOBRI, 
VERNI, CESNI, REALNI, ZAGROZENI, NAPATENI I POROBENI BRAKA I SESTRI 
MAKEDONKI I MAKEDONCI!


Pretsedatel Na Makedonskata Organizacija VMRO-MNM
Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet

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Dobronameren2 07-Aug-03, 10:07 PM (GMT)
12. "RE: Valja imati i ponekog prijatelj..."

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TREPET  19-Aug-03, 07:45 PM (GMT)
14. "RE: Poraka za Makedoncite!"

Vnatresna Makedonska Revolucionerna Organizacija - Makedonija Na Makedoncite 
(VMRO-MNM)!
Pretsedatel: Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet

Kontakti na privremeni E-mail adresi: Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet 
redacted@hotmail.com, Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet redacted@hotmail.com, 
VMRO-MNM TREPET redacted@hotmail.com, MACEDONIAN REVOLUTIONARY 
redacted@hotmail.com

19 Avgust 2003 g.

Poraka do Makedonskite ("aftori") sto pisuvat i sto citaat na ovaj anti 
makedonski forum.

Jas mislam vie "makedonski aftori" sto pisuvate na ovaj anti makedonski 
forum treba da se zasramite sto se prestavuvate kako Makedonci (se razbira 
ako imate covecka custv i oset). Mnogo dobro vi odi dikosiite so siptarskite 
ekstemisti, nacisti, fasisti, pedofili, psihopati, sizofrenicari, teroristi, 
provokatori, agresori i okupatori. Mnogo dobro vi ide diskusiite so 
Mongolskite tatarski ekstremisti, nasisti, fasisti, sevonisti, vrhovisti, 
pedofili, psihopati, sizofrenicari, teroristi, provokatori, agresori, 
falcifikatori i okupatori. Mnogo dobro vi ide dislusiite so srpskite 
cetnicki, nacisti, fasisti, agresori, provokatori, falcifikatori i 
okupatori. Za azijatskite kiprijanski arabi, ekstremisti, nacisti, fasisti, 
pedofili, psihopati, sizofrenicari, agresori, provokatori, teroristi, 
falcifikatori i okupatori, ne mozam da kazam posto mnogo malku pisuvat i 
provocirat na ovaj anti makedonski forum.

Mojata razocarana reakcija e sto nieden od Makedonskite aftori na ovaj forum 
ne reagirase so komentari za mojata reakcija na "srbijanecot" (MittagLeffler 
04-Aug-03, 04:21 PM (GMT) "Valja imati i ponekog prijatelja, zar ne?").
A naj vise me razocaravte i se custvuvam krajno revoltiran sto ne reagiravte 
na mojata izjava <<<<<<Sto se raboti za siptarskoto ekstremisticko, 
nacisticko, fasisticko, teroristicko i mafijo banditsko zasmrdeno pleme ne 
treba i nikogas nema da gi ostavime na mir. Za site tie zverski i dusmanski 
zlostorstva sto gi imaa napraveno na Makedonskiot narod nema da im se 
zaboravi niti da im se oprosti, mislam licno za mene i od mene pa i od 
Organizacijata VMRO-MNM nema da im se zaboravi i da im se oprosti. Neodamna 
doznav deka vo zapadniot svet ima i se prodadeni od 30. 000 do 40. 000 
iljadi mali devojcina i maski pa i povozrasni devocina kaj sto se prodadeni 
za robovi na prostitucija. Za tie 30. 000 do 40. 000 iljadi mali devojcina i 
maski pa i povozrasni devojcina se doznava deka se ukradeni i kidnapirani od 
taka narecenata "albanija" se razbira od strana na siptarskite teroristicki 
i mafijo banditski organizacii. Tie mali devojcina i maski kako i povozrazni 
devojcina ne se siptaski kopilina nego site se Makedoncinja koj sto se 
ukradeni i kidnapirani a poveketo od niv se odzemeni, se razbira so 
ekstremisticki i teroristicki zakani pa i so fizicki torturi gi imat 
odzemeno decinjata od Makedonskite roditeli i od nivnite najbliski. Toa se 
dokazani fakti deka siptarski gadotii ne kradat i ne kidnapirat nivni 
zasmrdeni kopilinja i da gi prodavat za robovi na prostitucija vo zapadniot 
svet.>>>>>>>>

Moi Makedonci dali ne vi e zal i greota za tie nasi mladi Makedonski decinja 
sto se kidnapirani, ukradeni i so sila odzemeni od Makedonskite roditeli, od 
nivnite majki i tatkovci, brakja i sestri i od naj bliskite rodnini, 
prijateli i drugarcinja. Za da bidat kako roboti na prostitucija vo 
zapadniot diktatorski, nacisticki, fasisticki, farvarski, teroristicki, 
provokatorski, agresorski, okupatorski i biokratsko banditski svet. Nikoj ne 
im ja znae makata i stradanjeto na tie zagrozeni Makedonski decinja. Samo 
oni si ja znaat makata i stradanjeto od zapadnite pedofili, psihopati, 
sizofrenicari, fanatici, nacisti, fasisti, varvari i teroristi. Tie nasi 
Makedonski decinja se prodadeni na zapadnite pedofilski i mafijaski bandi 
koj sto pota gi davat kako roboti za prostitucii na zapadnite 
politicari-pedofili, na diktatori-pedofili, na fanatici-pdofili, na 
parlamentarci-pedofili, na istoricari-pedofili, na novinari-pedofili, na 
oficeri-pedofili, na grado nacalnici-pedofili, na inspektori i 
komandiri-pedofili, na sudii-pedofili, na javnioveniteli-pedofili, na 
advokati-pedofili, na direktori-pedofili, na sefovi-pedofili i na masivno na 
kapetalisticki biokrati-banditi-pedofili.

Moi Makedonci ovie nasi Makeodnski decinja stradat i patat kako mnogo 
muljonski decinja sto se kidnapirani i ukradeni od nivnite roditeli i od 
nivnite naj bliski od mafijaskite bandi i se doneseni i prodadeni vo 
zapadniot svet na gore navedenite zapadni faktori, fantici, pedofili i 
mafijaski banditi. Zapadnite vladi ne prizimat nikavi merki za da gi unistat 
tie mafijaski bandi. Pricinata e vo toa sto sefovite (bosovite) na tie 
mafijaski bandi se tokmu zapadnite politicari i zapadnite kapetalisticki 
biokratski banditi.
Eve da spomnam za edna od zapdnite zemji. Naprimer vo Poranesna Skandinavska 
Provincija Svedska (FSPOS), e zakonski zabraneto da se kupuva so pari 
seksualni odnosi. No videte zabranata e samo za normalnite odnosno za 
obicnite gragjani a ne za politicarite, sudiite, javni oveniteli, advokati, 
grado nacalnici, oviceri, vrvni licnosti vo policijata kako na, sefovi, 
inspektori i komanidiri i se razbira zakon ne postoi za kapetalisti i dr.
Toa ti e jaka i ogromna i mnogo dobra organizirana mafijaska banda 
(pedofilska banda), od zapadnite politicari, fanatici kapetalisticki 
biokratski banditi.
Pred isvesno vreme se pisuvase i zborese vo Svedskite-FSPOS mediumi deka 
eden sef na policijata i finaciski funkcioner bile otkrieni deka plakjale 
pari za seksulani odnosi na prostitutki i toa samite tie si priznaa deka go 
storile toj kriminal. No tie pedofili i kapetalisti ne se kaznia nego se 
oslobodija od bilo kakvi krivcni dela. A ako nekoj od obicnite gragjani go 
stoerese toj kriminal, toagas ke bea osudeni na 3tri mececi zatvor i novcani 
kazni. "Toa tie e i toa se veli zapadna demokratija, realnost i 
solidarnost".

Koga sum kaj svedska-FSPOS, sakam da go kazam i ovo i ke se potrudam na 
kratko da vi kazam sto se slucuva. Prikrajot na Septemvri mesec 2003 g. Ke 
se odrzi referendum (glasanje) za clenstvo na (EMU). Glasanje za izmena od 
nivnata valuta kruna na EURO. Teski i sestoki borbi se vodat ismegju 
politickite faktori koj sto se za Ne i koj sto se za DA. Tie politicki 
faktori koj sto se ZA, na narodot mu go perat mozokot, go lazat i mu vetuvat 
deka svedska-FSPOS ke bide mnogo po bogata zemja, ke bide mnogo po stabilna 
socijalno ekonomsko opsestvo i site nevraboteni ke dobjat zaposluvanje. 
Politickite partii koj sto se ZA so naj golemata politicka partija 
Socijaldemokratska partija (S) koj sto se na vlas. Politickata partija (S) 
im se zakanuva i gi ucenuva nivnite clenovi koj sto se protiv evro.
Apak politickite faktori na drugite politickite partii koj sto se za protiv 
evro (Za NE) im velat i im garantirat na lugeto deka ekonomski i socijalno 
ke bide oslabena nivnata zemja i nezposlenosta ke bide mnogo povisoka brojka 
od kolku sto e denska.
Ne se raboti sto politickite partii koj sto se protiv evro deka 
nezaposlenosta ke se zgolemi i deka ekonomski i socijalno ke bide oslabena 
nivnata zemja. Nego se raboti za mnogo povazni i pogolemi problemi. 
Politicarite od partiite koj sto se protiv, javno izjavija deka 
unistuvanjeto na nivnata kruna i dobivanje na EURO e nacisticka politika. 
Tie velat deka se otkrieni istoriski dokumenti na nacistot i ubiecot Hitler, 
deka toj nacista i ubiec Hitler sakal i imal vo plan da napravi edna negova 
evropska drzava so edna vlada, so eden parlament, so eden ustav, so eden 
komandant, so edno zname, so edna himna, so eden jazik, so edna drzavana 
centralna banka (Kako sto e densna centralna banka na EU vo Frnkfurt) i so 
edna valuta (Edna edinstvena nacisticka zapadna drzava koj sto ke granici so 
drugite kontinenti).
Po moe mislenje e deka Amerikancite i zapdno evropjanite se imat dogovoreno 
da zapadna evropa gi okupira site istocno evropski zemji i da napravat edna 
zapadna evropska drzava i vo idnina so unistuvanje na nacionalostite odnosno 
so unistuvanje na naciite od granicite na zapadna evropa. A pak Amerikancite 
da gi okupirat site drugi drzavi i vo idnina da gi unistat site tie nacii.
E zatoa se pravat provokacii, agresii, vojni i omrazi kaj naciite vo 
drzavite koj sto se nadvor od zapadnite granici i zapadnite diktatori, 
fanatici, nacisti, fasisti, varvari i teroristi slobodno si velguvat so 
nivni vojski i gi okupirat drzavite (kako sto se veli eden drzava po edna 
ama poleka i sigurno i ke bidat pod nasa kontrola). Tie se planovite na novo 
formiranata amerikanska drzava so zapadno evropski pleminja i na EU.

E zatoa moi Makeodnci ctrancite koj sto ziveeat i rabotat vo zapadniot svet 
se 100% diskriminrani, 100% im se odzemeni covekovite prava i 100% zivotite 
im se zagrozeni kako socijalno i ekonomski zagrozuvanje. Strancite vo 
zapadniot svet ziveeat pod uceni, zakani deka se ne sposobni za nisto, deka 
se naj golemi kriminalci, deka se naj losite vozaci vo soobrakjaot i naj 
opasnite i naj stetni vo soobrakjajot. Toa se pisuva i zboruva vo 
agresorskite, provokatorskite, nacistickite i fasistickite svedski-FSPOS 
mediumi. A nikogas tie nivni mediumi ne pisuvat i ne zbruvat kolkavi 
nacisti, fasisti i kriminalci se nivnite svegjani. Nikogas ne pisuvat i ne 
zboruvat vo nivnite mediumi deka strancite se naj zagrozeni kako socijalno i 
ekonomski i deka strancite im gi rabotat naj gnasnite i naj teskite raboti. 
Nikogas ne pisuvat i ne zboruvat deka strancite se diskriminrat, zagrozuvat 
a i psihicki i fizicki se maltretirat. Za toa ne se pisuva i ne se zbrourva 
koa stranec ke prijavi deka e zagrozen i diskriminiran i deka e psihicki i 
fizicki maltretiran. Stranci nemat pravo da prijavat vo policija ili da 
podnesi prijava i zalba deka e zagrozuvan, diskriminiran i deka e psihicki i 
fizicki maltretiran od svecki nacisti i fasisti pa i od nivni drzavni 
sluzbenici. Za tie stranski prijavi i zalbi se nema dokazi i ne se prifakjat 
za ozbilni, nego delata so prijavite i molbite se ponistuvat. Da 
vnateresnite organi ke gi primat i ke gi procitat molbite i prijavite. I ke 
ti dadat nivna reklama "dokument" deka imas pravo da se zalis i da baras 
osteta, no za nekoj den ke dobies pismo od niv i ke ti kazat deka deloto ne 
e prifateni i se ponisti, a motivte se deka se nemalo dokazi za da se 
predade na sud. Taka da za strancite nema pomos i podrska od svedskoto 
sudstvo, od nivnite javni oveniteli i od nivnite advokati. Da ima sud, javni 
oveniteli i advokati sto gi osuduvat i kaznuvat nevinite stranci koj sto 
nemat napraveno kriminali i krivcni dela i toa bez dokazi se osuduvat i 
kaznuvat strancite. Ednostavno sasmrdeno i izgnieno opsestvo za nas 
strancite vo svedska-FSPOS. Toa e isto vo site zapdni zemji.

za sega tolku od mene.

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GOSPOD DA GO BLAGOSLOVI DOBAROT, VERENIOT, CESENIOT, REALENIOT, NAPATENIOT, 
ZAGROZENIOT I POROBENIOT MAKEDONSKI NAROD!

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Forumski vesnik doznava deka vo Bugarija veke e podgotvena za objavuvanje 
biografijata na Vojvodata LjuBco Georgiev vo koja vrvni bugarski istoricari 
so FAKTI go dokazuvaat bugarskoto poteklo na Vojvodata. Se spekulira deka i 
samiot Vojvoda dal soglasnost za objavuvanje na najnovata ISTORISKA KNIGA.
Se doznava deka vo podgotovka e i druga kniga, za drugiot ziv VOJVODA 
TREPET, megutoa bugarskite istoricari so nego tesko ke mozat da pominat 
zosto toj ne saka da "priznae" deka imal bugarski korenja. "Poarno ke umram 
otkolku da se otkazam od moite Makedomski korenja", izjavi slavniot Vojvoda.
Posle ovaa izjava, poznavajki ja taktikata na bugarite mozeme da zaklucime 
deka zivotot na poznatiot Vojvoda e vo opasnost. Edinstveno mozeme da mu 
posakame poveke sreka i dolg zivot.
Cuvaj se Vojvodo, bugarite se spremni na se.

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From: <redacted@usa.gov>
To: redacted@hotmail.com
Subject: Vnimanie
Date: 30 Aug 2003 19:16:55 -0700

Koe vi e zbornoto mesto koj site kontakt sto ste napravile za Makedonija 
dali pustate pisma na celi servisi ili samo na onie koj ja znaat vistinata 
milo mi e no mnogu amateri ima zatoa nema uspeh sto ste donirale pecalbari 
kaj vi e politickata aktivnost da dojdevte za vreme na popisot za 4 dena 
bese napraven samo se cukate vo gradi i potoa grcite siptarite i bugarite 
nema da ne gazat ke ne gazat nisto ne rabotite za Makedonija barem ako gi 
pustate ovie pisma pustajte gi na luge sto ne se makedonci sto ne ja znaat 
Makedonija i vistinata za Makedoncite a ne na luge koj stradat od Makedonija 
i se borat za neja.
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Till: redacted@usa.gov
Kopia: redacted@hotmail.com, redacted@hotmail.com, 
redacted@hotmail.com, redacted@hotmail.com
Ämne: Re: Vnimanie
Datum: Mon, 01 Sep 2003 14:40:09 0000

Zdravo Xxxxxx Xxxxxxxxx,
Kako prvo, blagodaram za porakata so tvoite kritiki.
Za sve sto gubi i strada Makedonija i Makedonskiot narod sme nie samite 
Makedonci naj golemi vinovnici zatoa sto ne sme edinstveni, ne sme obedineti 
i ne sorabotuvame kako sto sorabotuvaat nasite neprijateli i okupatori, pa 
zatoa nasite dusmanski neprijateli i okupatori ne gazele i ne ubivale i vo 
idnina kje ne gazat i kje ne ubivat. Zar ti samiot ne gledas kavi sme nie 
Makedoncite eden so drug si lubomorime, si zaviduvame, si gi vadime ocite i 
se unistuvame. Pogledi ti kolku Makedonski predavnicki zverovi imame 
(iljadnici neli e taka). Mekedonskiot narod denesno vreme se gordee so 
Makedonkite korptirani bandi, Makedonskiot narod se gordee so Makedonskite 
predavnicki zverovi. Se dodeka Makedonija i Makedonskiot narod ima na 
iljadnici zlocinski izrodi nie dobrite, cesnite i realnite Makedonci kje 
stradame i vo idnina.
Sto se odnesuva za popisot, nemoj da gji obvinuvas Makedoncite koj sto se 
nadvor od Makedonija (Makedonskata emigracija). I tie Makedonci sto se 
nadvor od Makedonija ne se obedineti i ne se edinstveni, nego i tie si 
zaviduvat i si lubomorat. Koj sto napravil i kako napravil toa jas ne mozam 
na ovo pismo da ti objasnam. No mozam da ti kazam deka nie od organizacijata 
VMRO-MNM ne se cukame vo gradi nego javno rabotime i se borime za majka 
Makeodnija i za napateniot Makedonski narod. Popisi se pravat samo po kjefot 
na siptarskite gnasotii i nivnite zelbi im se ispolnuvat. Zosto ne se pravi 
popisi za da se znaae kolku Makedonci ima vo porobenite Makedonski delovi vo 
taka narecenite "albnija, grcija, bugarija i zrbija". VMRO-MNM raboti i se 
bori za da go obedini i Makedonskiot narod, no mnogo e tesko da se raboti so 
nasiot narod i ne saka da se obedini. Nie Makedoncite brgu se naverduvame 
ako nekoj Makedonec mu rece deka ne si vo pravo ili ne ste vo pravo iako mu 
gji kazuvas vistinite i sto treba da storime za dobroto na Makeodnija i na 
narodot Makedonski.
Toa e dobro sto si go napisal no ne si dovolno zapoznaen so aktivnostite i 
borbite na organizacijata VMRO-MNM za Makedonskata kauza i za afirmacija za 
vistinata na Makedonija i na Makedonskiot narod. Pa zatoa tebe i na masivno 
na nasi Makedonci koj sto imaat email konta im isprakjame nasi materijali. 
Nie isprakjame nasi matrerijali sirom celiot svet preko e-mail i toa na 
iljadnici e-mail adresi na site politicki i ne politicki institucii i 
asosijacii. Pa isto taka isprakjame i na site nacionalnosti koj sto imat 
e-mail adresi na internet.
Nie clenovite na organizacijata VMRO-MNM imamvme otvoreno 40 hotmail konta 
(adresi) pred nekoj den ednata adresa se zatvori, naj verovatno na nekoi im 
smetal nasiot matreijal. Tie e-mail adresi se za da prakjame pisma, 
dokumenti i fakti za vistinata na Makedonija i na narodot Makeodnski.
Pogledni gi tie e-maili so iminjata na naj golemite Makedonski sinovi i 
bogovi:

"JAS SUM MAKEDONEC A NE FYROMEC" redacted@hotmail.com,
"VMRO-MNM Makedonija Na Makedoncite" 
redacted@hotmail.com ,
"VMRO-MNM" redacted@hotmail.com,
"Macedonia for the Macedonians" redacted@hotmail.com,
"Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet" redacted@hotmail.com,
"VMRO-MNM TREPET" redacted@hotmail.com,
"Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet" redacted@hotmail.com,
"Filip II Makedonski" redacted@hotmail.com,
"Filip II Makedonski The Great Of Macedonian" 
redacted@hotmail.com,
"Aleksandar III Makedonski-Veliki" 
redacted@hotmail.com,
"Aleksandar III Makedonski The Great Of Macedonian" 
redacted@hotmail.com, "Aristotle of 
Macedonian" redacted@hotmail.com,
"Konstantin The Great" redacted@hotmail.com,
"Car Konstantin The Great" redacted@hotmail.com,
"Car Konstantin The Great Of Macedonia" 
redacted@hotmail.com,
"Justinjan The Great" redacted@hotmail.com,
"Car Justinjan The Great" redacted@hotmail.com,
"Car Justinjan The Great Of Macedonia" 
redacted@hotmail.com,
"Car Samoil The Great" redacted@hotmail.com,
"Car Samoil The Great Of Macedonia" 
redacted@hotmail.com,
"St. Kiril And Metodij Of Macedonia" 
redacted@hotmail.com,
"St. Kliment Ohridski Of Macedonia" 
redacted@hotmail.com,
"St. Naum Ohridski Of Macedonia" redacted@hotmail.com,
"Goce Delcev-Velikanot" redacted@hotmail.com,
"Goce Delcev The Great Of Macedonia" 
redacted@hotmail.com,
"Goce Delcev-Vojvoda" redacted@hotmail.com,
"Jane Sandanski-Vojvoda" redacted@hotmail.com,
"Nikola Karev-Vojvoda" redacted@hotmail.com,
"Dame Gruev-Vojvoda" redacted@hotmail.com,
"Gjorce Petrov-Vojvoda" redacted@hotmail.com,
"Pitu Guli-Vojvoda" redacted@hotmail.com,
"Metodija Andonov-Cento Vojvoda" redacted@hotmail.com,
"Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet Vojvoda" 
redacted@hotmail.com,
"MACEDONIAN REVOLUTIONARY" redacted@hotmail.com,
"MACEDONIAN PATRIOT" redacted@hotmail.com,
"MAKEDONSKI KOMITA" redacted@hotmail.com,
"MAKEDONSKI PATRIOT" redacted@hotmail.com,

Brat Xxxxxx Xxxxxxxxx primi komitski pozdravi i do citanje!

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EDEN ZA SITE I SITE ZA EDEN

MAKEDONIJA NA MAKEDONCITE


MAKEDONSKI KOMITA

P.S. Toj materijal sto ti si go dobil na tvojata e-mail go dobivat kako sto 
ti spomnav pogore na pismoto. Jas kje ti kopiram na ovo pismo eden del na od 
e-mail adresi na nasi Makedonci i na stranski e-mail adresi, se nadevam deka 
kje odvois vreme za da gi pregledas e-mail adresite i da vidis civise tie 
e-mail adresi. Se izvinuvam sto kje moram da ti ispratam skoro deset iljadi 
e-mail adresi i kje potrosis dosta vreme za da gi pregledas site tie e-mail 
adresi. No veruvaj mi deka samo od tie deset ilijadi e-mail adresi imat 
procitano naj verovatno sto iljadi luge. A da ti kazam deka sekoj den se 
prakja matrealot od VMRO-MNM i od G-dinot TREPET, se razbira na 1500 do 3000 
iljadi e-mail adresi na luge koj sto imat e-mail adresi na internet.


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Nadvoresniot Minister Anna Lindh na Poranesna Skandinavska Provincija 
Svedska (FSPOS).


Från: "Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet" <redacted@hotmail.com>
Till: redacted@hotmail.com, 
redacted@hotmail.com, 
redacted@hotmail.com, 
redacted@hotmail.com, 
redacted@hotmail.com, 
redacted@hotmail.com, 
redacted@hotmail.com, 
redacted@hotmail.com, redacted@hotmail.com, 
redacted@hotmail.com, 
redacted@hotmail.com, 
redacted@hotmail.com, redacted@hotmail.com, 
redacted@hotmail.com, 
redacted@hotmail.com, 
redacted@hotmail.com, 
redacted@hotmail.com, 
redacted@hotmail.com, 
redacted@hotmail.com, 
redacted@hotmail.com, 
redacted@hotmail.com, 
redacted@hotmail.com, redacted@hotmail.com
Kopia: redacted@hotmail.com, redacted@hotmail.com, 
redacted@hotmail.com, redacted@hotmail.com, 
redacted@hotmail.com, 
redacted@hotmail.com, redacted@hotmail.com, 
redacted@hotmail.com, redacted@hotmail.com, 
redacted@hotmail.com, redacted@hotmail.com, 
redacted@hotmail.com, redacted@hotmail.com, 
redacted@hotmail.com, redacted@hotmail.com, 
redacted@makedonskafalanga.cjb.net
Ämne: Se napravi atentat na Nadvoresniot Minister na FSPOS Anna Lindh!
Datum: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 18:15:43 +0000

Vnatresna Makedonska Revolucionerna Organizacija - Makedonija Na Makedoncite 
(VMRO-MNM)!
Pretsedatel: Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet

Kontakti na privremeni E-mail adresi: Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet 
redacted@hotmail.com, Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet redacted@hotmail.com, 
VMRO-MNM TREPET redacted@hotmail.com, MACEDONIAN REVOLUTIONARY 
redacted@hotmail.com

10 Septemvri 2003

Na den 10 Septemvri 2003 g. Okolu 16.20 satot. Se napravi atentat na 
Nadvoresniot Minister Anna Lindh na Poranesna Skandinavska Provincija 
Svedska (FSPOS). Atentatot se  napravil vo eden trgovski centar "NK" vo 
centarot na Stokholem.
Anna Lindh se vo momentot operisuva vo bolnicata vo Stokholm od teskite 
povredi so nekolku zabodi so nos. Sostojbata na nadvoresniot minister Anna 
Lindh e vo teska sostojba no ne e opasna za zivotot. Anna Lindh bese i 
seuste e edna osoba, faktor i fanatik koj sto e edna od naj golemite 
sorabotnici i prijateli na siptarskite ekstremisti, nacisti, fasisti, 
teroristi, pedofili, psihopati, sizofrenicari, agresori, provokatori, ubici 
i mafijaski banditi. Taja Anna Linhh e golem agresor, provokator i fanatik 
koj sto gi podrzavase gnasinite i sasmrdenite kavfkazki ekstremisticki, 
teroristicki i mafiojo banditskite bandi koj sto vo 2001 godina predizvikaa 
vojna vo nasiot mil i drag Vardarski del na Makedonija i zaedno so nejzina 
podrska od 2001 g. i do den deneska siptarskite ekstremisti, teroristi i 
mafijaski banditi pravea i seuste pravat zverski, dusmanski macenja, ubistva 
i masakri na Makedonskiot narod i kidnapiranje na stotina Makedonski civili, 
deca, zeni i starci kaj sto se zverski i dusmanski maceni i silovani nasite 
Makedonki i zverski i dusmanski ubieni i masakrirani. Isto taka pravea 
zverski i dusmansi GENOCID i ETNICKO CISTENJE NAD MAKEDONSKIOT NAROD.
Nadvoresniot minister na Poranesna Skandinavska Provincija Svedska (FSPOS) 
Anna Lindh e edna osoba so drugi desetina voeni zlocinci, fanatici, 
provokatori i agresori zapisanna i registrirana kako Voen zlocinec za 
zversko i dusmansko etnicko cistenje i zverski i dusmanski genocid nad 
Makedonskiot narod. Se razbira vo crnata lista, odnosno vo Deklaracijata koj 
sto e napisana na angliski jazik (Declaration February 13, 2001) na 
Vnatresna Makedonska Revolucionerna Organizacija - Makedonija Na Makedoncite 
(VMRO-MNM).

SO MAKEDONSKI BRATSKI, KOMITSKI I PATRIOTSKI POZDRAVI!

VECNO DA ZIVEE MAKEDONSKATA ZEMJA!

VECNO DA ZIVEE MAKEDONSKIOT NAROD!

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VMRO-MNM (MAKEDONIJA NA MAKEDONCITE)!

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NIE SME MAKEDONCI A NE FYROMCI!

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Anna Lindh beshe edna od naj golemite fanatici i neprijateli na Makedonskata 
drzhava i na Makedonskiot narod. Se razbira pomalku eden fanatik, agresor i 
provokator.....



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redacted@hotmail.com, redacted@hotmail.com, 
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redacted@makedonskafalanga.cjb.net
Ämne: Nadvoresnata ministerka za nadvoresni raboti Anna Lindh na FSPOS umre.
Datum: Thu, 11 Sep 2003 08:18:31 +0000

Vnatresna Makedonska Revolucionerna Organizacija - Makedonija Na Makedoncite 
(VMRO-MNM)!
Pretsedatel: Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet

Kontakti na privremeni E-mail adresi: Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet 
redacted@hotmail.com, Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet redacted@hotmail.com, 
VMRO-MNM TREPET redacted@hotmail.com, MACEDONIAN REVOLUTIONARY 
redacted@hotmail.com

11 Septemvri 2003

Novi informacii za atentatot na Nadvoresnata ministerka za nadvoresni raboti 
Anna Lindh na Poranesna Skandinavska Provincija Svedska (FSPOS).

Kako sto vi izjaviv vcera navecer deka atentatot se napravil na Anna Lindh i 
bese prenesena vo bolnicata vo Stoholm, taka da celo nokno se operirala od 
teskite povredi koj sto bila ubodena nekolku pati vo gradi i vo stomah od 
nepoznatiot atentator. No se sluci i naj teskoto. Anna Lindh po dolgi 
casovni operacii im podlegnala na teskite povredi, rano sabajle na 11 
Septemvri 2003 g. vo 05.29 satot Anna Lindh umre na vozrast od 46 g.

Cela nokna masivna policiska akcija i seuste se bara atentatorot koj sto ja 
ubi Anna Lindh, no bez uspeh, atentatorot e seuste na sloboda. Po izjavite 
na svedocite koj sto go videle atentatorot na lice mesto imal lik na 
svegjanin, taka da sega svegjanite nemozat da kazat deka stranec e 
atentator.

Site politicki partii ja odlozija za neodredeno vreme kapanjata za izmena na 
krunata za EURO, koj sto trebase da se napravat izborite (Referendumot) na 
den 14 septemvri 2003 g. Informacii seuste nema dali izborite ke se odlozat 
za druga data.

SO MAKEDONSKI BRATSKI, KOMITSKI I PATRIOTSKI POZDRAVI!

VECNO DA ZIVEE MAKEDONSKATA ZEMJA!

VECNO DA ZIVEE MAKEDONSKIOT NAROD!

SMRT ZA SIPTARISKITE-BALISTI, TERORISTI I FASISTI!

SMRT ZA SITE ZAPADNI OKUPATORSKI CIZMARI, NACISTI, FASISTI, VARVARI, 
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SMRT ZA PROKLETITE MAKEDONSKI IZRODI, PREDAVNICKI ZVEROVI-ZVERSKI!

SLOBODA ILI SMRT ZA MAKEDONSKATA DRZAVA I ZA MAKEDONSKIOT NAROD!

EDEN ZA SITE I SITE ZA EDEN!

VECNO DA ZIVEE VNATRESNA MAKEDONSKA REVOLUCIONERNA ORGANIZACIJA VMRO-MNM 
(MAKEDONIJA NA MAKEDONCITE)!
GOSPOD DA JA BLAGOSLOVI NASATA MAJKA MAKEDONIJA!

GOSPOD DA GO BLAGOSLOVI DOBAROT, VERENIOT, CESENIOT, REALENIOT, NAPATENIOT, 
ZAGROZENIOT I POROBENIOT MAKEDONSKI NAROD!

GOSPOD DA JA BLAGOSLOVI VNATRESNA MAKEDONSKA REVOLUCIONERNA ORGANIZACIJA 
VMRO-MNM (MAKEDONIJA NA MAKEDONCITE)!

JAS SUM MAKEDONEC A NE FYROMEC!

NIE SME MAKEDONCI A NE FYROMCI!

MAKEDONIJA NA MAKEDONCITE!

TOA E PORAKATA OD MAKEDONSKIOT KOMITA I PATRIOT TREPET I OD SITE HRABRI I 
GORDI MAKEDONSKI KOMITI, PATRIOTI I BORCI......

P.S. SO MAKEDONSKI BRATSKI, KOMITSKI I PATRIOTSKI POZDRAVI DO SITE DOBRI, 
VERNI, CESNI, REALNI, ZAGROZENI, NAPATENI I POROBENI BRAKA I SESTRI 
MAKEDONKI I MAKEDONCI!


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Reply  Se napravi atentat na Nadvoresniot Minister Anna Lindh !
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Ämne: Se napravi atentat na Nadvoresniot Minister na FSPOS Anna Lindh!
Datum: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 18:15:43 +0000

Vnatresna Makedonska Revolucionerna Organizacija - Makedonija Na Makedoncite 
(VMRO-MNM)!
Pretsedatel: Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet

Kontakti na privremeni E-mail adresi: Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet 
redacted@hotmail.com, Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet redacted@hotmail.com, 
VMRO-MNM TREPET redacted@hotmail.com, MACEDONIAN REVOLUTIONARY 
redacted@hotmail.com

10 Septemvri 2003

Na den 10 Septemvri 2003 g. Okplu 16.20 satot. Se napravi atentat na 
Nadvoresniot Minister Anna Lindh na Poranesna Skandinavska Provincija 
Svedska (FSPOS). Atentatot se napravil vo eden trgovski centar "NK" vo 
centarot na Stokholem.
Anna Lindh se vo momentot operisuva vo bolnicata vo Stokholm od teskite 
povredi so nekolku zabodi so nos. Sostojbata na nadvoresniot minister Anna 
Lindh e vo teska sostojba no ne e opasna za zivotot. Anna Lindh bese i 
seuste e edna osoba, faktor i fanatik koj sto e edna od naj golemite 
sorabotnici i prijateli na siptarskite ekstremisti, nacisti, fasisti, 
teroristi, pedofili, psihopati, sizofrenicari, agresori, provokatori, ubici 
i mafijaski banditi. Taja Anna Linhh e golem agresor, provokator i fanatik 
koj sto gi podrzavase gnasinite i sasmrdenite kavfkazki ekstremisticki, 
teroristicki i mafiojo banditskite bandi koj sto vo 2001 godina predizvikaa 
vojna vo nasiot mil i drag Vardarski del na Makedonija i zaedno so nejzina 
podrska od 2001 g. i do den deneska siptarskite ekstremisti, teroristi i 
mafijaski banditi pravea i seuste pravat zverski, dusmanski macenja, ubistva 
i masakri na Makedonskiot narod i kidnapiranje na stotina Makedonski civili, 
deca, zeni i starci kaj sto se zverski i dusmanski maceni i silovani nasite 
Makedonki i zverski i dusmanski ubieni i masakrirani. Isto taka pravea 
zverski i dusmansi GENOCID i ETNICKO CISTENJE NAD MAKEDONSKIOT NAROD.
Nadvoresniot minister na Poranesna Skandinavska Provincija Svedska (FSPOS) 
Anna Lindh e edna osoba so drugi desetina voeni zlocinci, fanatici, 
provokatori i agresori zapisanna i registrirana kako Voen zlocinec za 
zversko i dusmansko etnicko cistenje i zverski i dusmanski genocid nad 
Makedonskiot narod. Se razbira vo crnata lista, odnosno vo Deklaracijata koj 
sto e napisana na angliski jazik (Declaration February 13, 2001) na 
Vnatresna Makedonska Revolucionerna Organizacija - Makedonija Na Makedoncite 
(VMRO-MNM).

SO MAKEDONSKI BRATSKI, KOMITSKI I PATRIOTSKI POZDRAVI!

VECNO DA ZIVEE MAKEDONSKATA ZEMJA!

VECNO DA ZIVEE MAKEDONSKIOT NAROD!

SMRT ZA SIPTARISKITE-BALISTI, TERORISTI I FASISTI!

SMRT ZA SITE ZAPADNI OKUPATORSKI CIZMARI, NACISTI, FASISTI, VARVARI, 
TERORISTI, BIOKRATI I FANATICI VO NASATA MILA I SAKANA TATKOVINA MAKEDONIJA!

SMRT ZA PROKLETITE MAKEDONSKI IZRODI, PREDAVNICKI ZVEROVI-ZVERSKI!

SLOBODA ILI SMRT ZA MAKEDONSKATA DRZAVA I ZA MAKEDONSKIOT NAROD!

EDEN ZA SITE I SITE ZA EDEN!

VECNO DA ZIVEE VNATRESNA MAKEDONSKA REVOLUCIONERNA ORGANIZACIJA VMRO-MNM 
(MAKEDONIJA NA MAKEDONCITE)!
GOSPOD DA JA BLAGOSLOVI NASATA MAJKA MAKEDONIJA!

GOSPOD DA GO BLAGOSLOVI DOBAROT, VERENIOT, CESENIOT, REALENIOT, NAPATENIOT, 
ZAGROZENIOT I POROBENIOT MAKEDONSKI NAROD!

GOSPOD DA JA BLAGOSLOVI VNATRESNA MAKEDONSKA REVOLUCIONERNA ORGANIZACIJA 
VMRO-MNM (MAKEDONIJA NA MAKEDONCITE)!

JAS SUM MAKEDONEC A NE FYROMEC!

NIE SME MAKEDONCI A NE FYROMCI!

MAKEDONIJA NA MAKEDONCITE!

TOA E PORAKATA OD MAKEDONSKIOT KOMITA I PATRIOT TREPET I OD SITE HRABRI I 
GORDI MAKEDONSKI KOMITI, PATRIOTI I BORCI......

P.S. SO MAKEDONSKI BRATSKI, KOMITSKI I PATRIOTSKI POZDRAVI DO SITE DOBRI, 
VERNI, CESNI, REALNI, ZAGROZENI, NAPATENI I POROBENI BRAKA I SESTRI 
MAKEDONKI I MAKEDONCI!


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MACEDONIAN REVOLUTIONARY
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Posts: 159
(9/11/03 12:42 am)
Reply  RE: Eden neprijatel na Makedonskiot narod pomalku.
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Ämne: Nadvoresnata ministerka za nadvoresni raboti Anna Lindh na FSPOS umre.
Datum: Thu, 11 Sep 2003 08:18:31 +0000

Vnatresna Makedonska Revolucionerna Organizacija - Makedonija Na Makedoncite 
(VMRO-MNM)!
Pretsedatel: Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet

Kontakti na privremeni E-mail adresi: Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet 
redacted@hotmail.com, Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet redacted@hotmail.com, 
VMRO-MNM TREPET redacted@hotmail.com, MACEDONIAN REVOLUTIONARY 
redacted@hotmail.com

11 Septemvri 2003

Novi informacii za atentatot na Nadvoresnata ministerka za nadvoresni raboti 
Anna Lindh na Poranesna Skandinavska Provincija Svedska (FSPOS).

Kako sto vi izjaviv vcera navecer deka atentatot se napravil na Anna Lindh i 
bese prenesena vo bolnicata vo Stoholm, taka da celo nokno se operirala od 
teskite povredi koj sto bila ubodena nekolku pati vo gradi i vo stomah od 
nepoznatiot atentator. No se sluci i naj teskoto. Anna Lindh po dolgi 
casovni operacii im podlegnala na teskite povredi, rano sabajle na 11 
Septemvri 2003 g. vo 05.29 satot Anna Lindh umre na vozrast od 46 g.

Cela nokna masivna policiska akcija i seuste se bara atentatorot koj sto ja 
ubi Anna Lindh, no bez uspeh, atentatorot e seuste na sloboda. Po izjavite 
na svedocite koj sto go videle atentatorot na lice mesto imal lik na 
svegjanin, taka da sega svegjanite nemozat da kazat deka stranec e 
atentator.

Site politicki partii ja odlozija za neodredeno vreme kapanjata za izmena na 
krunata za EURO, koj sto trebase da se napravat izborite (Referendumot) na 
den 14 septemvri 2003 g. Informacii seuste nema dali izborite ke se odlozat 
za druga data.

SO MAKEDONSKI BRATSKI, KOMITSKI I PATRIOTSKI POZDRAVI!

VECNO DA ZIVEE MAKEDONSKATA ZEMJA!

VECNO DA ZIVEE MAKEDONSKIOT NAROD!

SMRT ZA SIPTARISKITE-BALISTI, TERORISTI I FASISTI!

SMRT ZA SITE ZAPADNI OKUPATORSKI CIZMARI, NACISTI, FASISTI, VARVARI, 
TERORISTI, BIOKRATI I FANATICI VO NASATA MILA I SAKANA TATKOVINA MAKEDONIJA!

SMRT ZA PROKLETITE MAKEDONSKI IZRODI, PREDAVNICKI ZVEROVI-ZVERSKI!

SLOBODA ILI SMRT ZA MAKEDONSKATA DRZAVA I ZA MAKEDONSKIOT NAROD!

EDEN ZA SITE I SITE ZA EDEN!

VECNO DA ZIVEE VNATRESNA MAKEDONSKA REVOLUCIONERNA ORGANIZACIJA VMRO-MNM 
(MAKEDONIJA NA MAKEDONCITE)!
GOSPOD DA JA BLAGOSLOVI NASATA MAJKA MAKEDONIJA!

GOSPOD DA GO BLAGOSLOVI DOBAROT, VERENIOT, CESENIOT, REALENIOT, NAPATENIOT, 
ZAGROZENIOT I POROBENIOT MAKEDONSKI NAROD!

GOSPOD DA JA BLAGOSLOVI VNATRESNA MAKEDONSKA REVOLUCIONERNA ORGANIZACIJA 
VMRO-MNM (MAKEDONIJA NA MAKEDONCITE)!

JAS SUM MAKEDONEC A NE FYROMEC!

NIE SME MAKEDONCI A NE FYROMCI!

MAKEDONIJA NA MAKEDONCITE!

TOA E PORAKATA OD MAKEDONSKIOT KOMITA I PATRIOT TREPET I OD SITE HRABRI I 
GORDI MAKEDONSKI KOMITI, PATRIOTI I BORCI......

P.S. SO MAKEDONSKI BRATSKI, KOMITSKI I PATRIOTSKI POZDRAVI DO SITE DOBRI, 
VERNI, CESNI, REALNI, ZAGROZENI, NAPATENI I POROBENI BRAKA I SESTRI 
MAKEDONKI I MAKEDONCI!


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Stojko
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(9/11/03 3:43 am)
Reply  umrela
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abe ona umrela???



MACEDONIAN REVOLUTIONARY
Registered User
Posts: 160
(9/11/03 6:08 am)
Reply  RE: umrela (Stojko taka i treba)
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Stojko taka i treba !

Ova Anna Lindh e edna od naj golemite fanatici i neprijateli na Makedonskata 
drzhava i na Makedonskiot narod. Se razbira pomalku eden fanatik, agresor, 
provokator i golem sorabotnik i prijatel na sosednite Makedonski dushmanski 
neprijateli.....
Sekoj koj shto e losh, fanatik, agresor i provokator treba da se likvidira. 
Taka da svegjaninot shto ja ubil siptarskata prijatelka Anna Lindh ni 
pomogna na nas Makedoncite......

Pozdrav

MACEDONIAN REVOLUTIONRY


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Ämne: Se napravi atentat na Nadvoresniot Minister na FSPOS Anna Lindh!
Datum: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 18:15:43 +0000

Vnatresna Makedonska Revolucionerna Organizacija - Makedonija Na Makedoncite 
(VMRO-MNM)!
Pretsedatel: Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet

Kontakti na privremeni E-mail adresi: Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet 
redacted@hotmail.com, Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet redacted@hotmail.com, 
VMRO-MNM TREPET redacted@hotmail.com, MACEDONIAN REVOLUTIONARY 
redacted@hotmail.com
10 Septemvri 2003

Na den 10 Septemvri 2003 g. Okplu 16.20 satot. Se napravi atentat na 
Nadvoresniot Minister Anna Lindh na Poranesna Skandinavska Provincija 
Svedska (FSPOS). Atentatot se napravil vo eden trgovski centar "NK" vo 
centarot na Stokholem.
Anna Lindh se vo momentot operisuva vo bolnicata vo Stokholm od teskite 
povredi so nekolku zabodi so nos. Sostojbata na nadvoresniot minister Anna 
Lindh e vo teska sostojba no ne e opasna za zivotot. Anna Lindh bese i 
seuste e edna osoba, faktor i fanatik koj sto e edna od naj golemite 
sorabotnici i prijateli na siptarskite ekstremisti, nacisti, fasisti, 
teroristi, pedofili, psihopati, sizofrenicari, agresori, provokatori, ubici 
i mafijaski banditi. Taja Anna Linhh e golem agresor, provokator i fanatik 
koj sto gi podrzavase gnasinite i sasmrdenite kavfkazki ekstremisticki, 
teroristicki i mafiojo banditskite bandi koj sto vo 2001 godina predizvikaa 
vojna vo nasiot mil i drag Vardarski del na Makedonija i zaedno so nejzina 
podrska od 2001 g. i do den deneska siptarskite ekstremisti, teroristi i 
mafijaski banditi pravea i seuste pravat zverski, dusmanski macenja, ubistva 
i masakri na Makedonskiot narod i kidnapiranje na stotina Makedonski civili, 
deca, zeni i starci kaj sto se zverski i dusmanski maceni i silovani nasite 
Makedonki i zverski i dusmanski ubieni i masakrirani. Isto taka pravea 
zverski i dusmansi GENOCID i ETNICKO CISTENJE NAD MAKEDONSKIOT NAROD.
Nadvoresniot minister na Poranesna Skandinavska Provincija Svedska (FSPOS) 
Anna Lindh e edna osoba so drugi desetina voeni zlocinci, fanatici, 
provokatori i agresori zapisanna i registrirana kako Voen zlocinec za 
zversko i dusmansko etnicko cistenje i zverski i dusmanski genocid nad 
Makedonskiot narod. Se razbira vo crnata lista, odnosno vo Deklaracijata koj 
sto e napisana na angliski jazik (Declaration February 13, 2001) na 
Vnatresna Makedonska Revolucionerna Organizacija - Makedonija Na Makedoncite 
(VMRO-MNM).

SO MAKEDONSKI BRATSKI, KOMITSKI I PATRIOTSKI POZDRAVI!

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Re: E SEGA BAS KUROT ME ZABOLE
Posted by MISLESEVEC on 9/11/2003, 2:38 am, in reply to "Se napravi atentat 
na Nadvoresniot Minister Anna Lindh na Poranesna Skandinavska Provincija 
Svedska!"
212.55.219.252

UBO E NAPRAJLE KAKO NE TE SKINET I TEBE !!!


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Re: Nadvoresnata ministerka za nadvoresni raboti Anna Lindh na FSPOS umre.
Posted by TREPET on 9/11/2003, 4:43 am, in reply to "Se napravi atentat na 
Nadvoresniot Minister Anna Lindh na Poranesna Skandinavska Provincija 
Svedska!"
213.112.68.43

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Ämne: Nadvoresnata ministerka za nadvoresni raboti Anna Lindh na FSPOS umre.
Datum: Thu, 11 Sep 2003 08:18:31 +0000
Vnatresna Makedonska Revolucionerna Organizacija - Makedonija Na Makedoncite 
(VMRO-MNM)!
Pretsedatel: Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet

Kontakti na privremeni E-mail adresi: Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet 
redacted@hotmail.com, Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet redacted@hotmail.com, 
VMRO-MNM TREPET redacted@hotmail.com, MACEDONIAN REVOLUTIONARY 
redacted@hotmail.com

11 Septemvri 2003

Novi informacii za atentatot na Nadvoresnata ministerka za nadvoresni raboti 
Anna Lindh na Poranesna Skandinavska Provincija Svedska (FSPOS).

Kako sto vi izjaviv vcera navecer deka atentatot se napravil na Anna Lindh i 
bese prenesena vo bolnicata vo Stoholm, taka da celo nokno se operirala od 
teskite povredi koj sto bila ubodena nekolku pati vo gradi i vo stomah od 
nepoznatiot atentator. No se sluci i naj teskoto. Anna Lindh po dolgi 
casovni operacii im podlegnala na teskite povredi, rano sabajle na 11 
Septemvri 2003 g. vo 05.29 satot Anna Lindh umre na vozrast od 46 g.

Cela nokna masivna policiska akcija i seuste se bara atentatorot koj sto ja 
ubi Anna Lindh, no bez uspeh, atentatorot e seuste na sloboda. Po izjavite 
na svedocite koj sto go videle atentatorot na lice mesto imal lik na 
svegjanin, taka da sega svegjanite nemozat da kazat deka stranec e 
atentator.

Site politicki partii ja odlozija za neodredeno vreme kapanjata za izmena na 
krunata za EURO, koj sto trebase da se napravat izborite (Referendumot) na 
den 14 septemvri 2003 g. Informacii seuste nema dali izborite ke se odlozat 
za druga data.

SO MAKEDONSKI BRATSKI, KOMITSKI I PATRIOTSKI POZDRAVI!

VECNO DA ZIVEE MAKEDONSKATA ZEMJA!

VECNO DA ZIVEE MAKEDONSKIOT NAROD!

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EDEN ZA SITE I SITE ZA EDEN!

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GOSPOD DA GO BLAGOSLOVI DOBAROT, VERENIOT, CESENIOT, REALENIOT, NAPATENIOT, 
ZAGROZENIOT I POROBENIOT MAKEDONSKI NAROD!

GOSPOD DA JA BLAGOSLOVI VNATRESNA MAKEDONSKA REVOLUCIONERNA ORGANIZACIJA 
VMRO-MNM (MAKEDONIJA NA MAKEDONCITE)!

JAS SUM MAKEDONEC A NE FYROMEC!

NIE SME MAKEDONCI A NE FYROMCI!

MAKEDONIJA NA MAKEDONCITE!

TOA E PORAKATA OD MAKEDONSKIOT KOMITA I PATRIOT TREPET I OD SITE HRABRI I 
GORDI MAKEDONSKI KOMITI, PATRIOTI I BORCI......

P.S. SO MAKEDONSKI BRATSKI, KOMITSKI I PATRIOTSKI POZDRAVI DO SITE DOBRI, 
VERNI, CESNI, REALNI, ZAGROZENI, NAPATENI I POROBENI BRAKA I SESTRI 
MAKEDONKI I MAKEDONCI!


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Re: BOG DA E PROSTI CE ODIS LI NA POGREB TREPET
Posted by MISLESEVEC on 9/11/2003, 5:22 am, in reply to "Re: Nadvoresnata 
ministerka za nadvoresni raboti Anna Lindh na FSPOS umre."
212.55.219.252

ODI SO CELA TVOJA ORGANIZACIJA BAREM CE SE NARUCATE GRAV I OD OVENOT MESO CE 
VI DATAT.
BAREM TAKVI SE ADETITE KAJ NAS VO MISLESEVO EDVA SE CEKA NEKOJ DA UMRE ZA DA 
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mislesevec !!!
Posted by macedon123 on 9/11/2003, 9:46 am
65.92.83.185

sto ti e kriv trepet???? sto taka se odnesuvas so coekot????? coekot 
ednostavno ni dade informacija. ako nesto te zaebale ovie lapacite vo 
makedonija okolu fabrikata sto mu se treses na trepet ?????


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Re: mislesevec !!! - MACEDONIAN REVOLUTIONARY 9/12/2003, 6:37 am
zaboraviv da te prasam - macedon123 9/11/2003, 9:52 am

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Re: mislesevec !!!
Posted by MACEDONIAN REVOLUTIONARY on 9/12/2003, 6:37 am, in reply to 
"mislesevec !!!"
213.112.68.54

MACEDON123
Vo ime na G-not TREPET ti blagodaram za pozitivnata reakcija. Informaciite 
od G-dinot TREPET za fanatikot, agresorot i porovokatorot Anna Lindh se vo 
prilog na MAKEDONIJA I NA NARODOT MAKEDONSKI.

A shto se raboti za bolni psihopati, pedofili i shizofrenichari kako tipot i 
tikvarot mislesevec e samo edna prosta i izgubena glava.

Jas ne znam shto na nekoj mu smetat invormaciite za ova Anna Lindh shto e 
edna od naj golemite fanatici i neprijateli na Makedonskata drzhava i na 
Makedonskiot narod. Se razbira pomalku eden fanatik, agresor, provokator i 
golem sorabotnik i prijatel na sosednite Makedonski dushmanski neprijateli i 
okupatori.....
Sekoj koj shto e losh, fanatik, agresor i provokator treba da se likvidira. 
Taka da svegjaninot shto ja ubil siptarskata prijatelka Anna Lindh ni 
pomogna na nas Makedoncite......

Naj iskreni pozdravi

MACEDONIAN REVOLUTIONRY


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Ämne: Se napravi atentat na Nadvoresniot Minister na FSPOS Anna Lindh!
Datum: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 18:15:43 +0000

Vnatresna Makedonska Revolucionerna Organizacija - Makedonija Na Makedoncite 
(VMRO-MNM)!
Pretsedatel: Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet

Kontakti na privremeni E-mail adresi: Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet 
redacted@hotmail.com, Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet redacted@hotmail.com, 
VMRO-MNM TREPET redacted@hotmail.com, MACEDONIAN REVOLUTIONARY 
redacted@hotmail.com

10 Septemvri 2003

Na den 10 Septemvri 2003 g. Okplu 16.20 satot. Se napravi atentat na 
Nadvoresniot Minister Anna Lindh na Poranesna Skandinavska Provincija 
Svedska (FSPOS). Atentatot se napravil vo eden trgovski centar "NK" vo 
centarot na Stokholem.
Anna Lindh se vo momentot operisuva vo bolnicata vo Stokholm od teskite 
povredi so nekolku zabodi so nos. Sostojbata na nadvoresniot minister Anna 
Lindh e vo teska sostojba no ne e opasna za zivotot. Anna Lindh bese i 
seuste e edna osoba, faktor i fanatik koj sto e edna od naj golemite 
sorabotnici i prijateli na siptarskite ekstremisti, nacisti, fasisti, 
teroristi, pedofili, psihopati, sizofrenicari, agresori, provokatori, ubici 
i mafijaski banditi. Taja Anna Linhh e golem agresor, provokator i fanatik 
koj sto gi podrzavase gnasinite i sasmrdenite kavfkazki ekstremisticki, 
teroristicki i mafiojo banditskite bandi koj sto vo 2001 godina predizvikaa 
vojna vo nasiot mil i drag Vardarski del na Makedonija i zaedno so nejzina 
podrska od 2001 g. i do den deneska siptarskite ekstremisti, teroristi i 
mafijaski banditi pravea i seuste pravat zverski, dusmanski macenja, ubistva 
i masakri na Makedonskiot narod i kidnapiranje na stotina Makedonski civili, 
deca, zeni i starci kaj sto se zverski i dusmanski maceni i silovani nasite 
Makedonki i zverski i dusmanski ubieni i masakrirani. Isto taka pravea 
zverski i dusmansi GENOCID i ETNICKO CISTENJE NAD MAKEDONSKIOT NAROD.
Nadvoresniot minister na Poranesna Skandinavska Provincija Svedska (FSPOS) 
Anna Lindh e edna osoba so drugi desetina voeni zlocinci, fanatici, 
provokatori i agresori zapisanna i registrirana kako Voen zlocinec za 
zversko i dusmansko etnicko cistenje i zverski i dusmanski genocid nad 
Makedonskiot narod. Se razbira vo crnata lista, odnosno vo Deklaracijata koj 
sto e napisana na angliski jazik (Declaration February 13, 2001) na 
Vnatresna Makedonska Revolucionerna Organizacija - Makedonija Na Makedoncite 
(VMRO-MNM).

SO MAKEDONSKI BRATSKI, KOMITSKI I PATRIOTSKI POZDRAVI!

VECNO DA ZIVEE MAKEDONSKATA ZEMJA!

VECNO DA ZIVEE MAKEDONSKIOT NAROD!

SMRT ZA SIPTARISKITE-BALISTI, TERORISTI I FASISTI!

SMRT ZA SITE ZAPADNI OKUPATORSKI CIZMARI, NACISTI, FASISTI, VARVARI, 
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EDEN ZA SITE I SITE ZA EDEN!

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GOSPOD DA JA BLAGOSLOVI NASATA MAJKA MAKEDONIJA!

GOSPOD DA GO BLAGOSLOVI DOBAROT, VERENIOT, CESENIOT, REALENIOT, NAPATENIOT, 
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JAS SUM MAKEDONEC A NE FYROMEC!

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VERNI, CESNI, REALNI, ZAGROZENI, NAPATENI I POROBENI BRAKA I SESTRI 
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Datum: Thu, 11 Sep 2003 08:18:31 +0000

Vnatresna Makedonska Revolucionerna Organizacija - Makedonija Na Makedoncite 
(VMRO-MNM)!
Pretsedatel: Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet

Kontakti na privremeni E-mail adresi: Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet 
redacted@hotmail.com, Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet redacted@hotmail.com, 
VMRO-MNM TREPET redacted@hotmail.com, MACEDONIAN REVOLUTIONARY 
redacted@hotmail.com

11 Septemvri 2003

Novi informacii za atentatot na Nadvoresnata ministerka za nadvoresni raboti 
Anna Lindh na Poranesna Skandinavska Provincija Svedska (FSPOS).

Kako sto vi izjaviv vcera navecer deka atentatot se napravil na Anna Lindh i 
bese prenesena vo bolnicata vo Stoholm, taka da celo nokno se operirala od 
teskite povredi koj sto bila ubodena nekolku pati vo gradi i vo stomah od 
nepoznatiot atentator. No se sluci i naj teskoto. Anna Lindh po dolgi 
casovni operacii im podlegnala na teskite povredi, rano sabajle na 11 
Septemvri 2003 g. vo 05.29 satot Anna Lindh umre na vozrast od 46 g.

Cela nokna masivna policiska akcija i seuste se bara atentatorot koj sto ja 
ubi Anna Lindh, no bez uspeh, atentatorot e seuste na sloboda. Po izjavite 
na svedocite koj sto go videle atentatorot na lice mesto imal lik na 
svegjanin, taka da sega svegjanite nemozat da kazat deka stranec e 
atentator.

Site politicki partii ja odlozija za neodredeno vreme kapanjata za izmena na 
krunata za EURO, koj sto trebase da se napravat izborite (Referendumot) na 
den 14 septemvri 2003 g. Informacii seuste nema dali izborite ke se odlozat 
za druga data.

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Re: RE: Eden neprijatel na Makedonija i na Makedonskiot narod pomalku. 
September 15 2003, 6:25 PM

Tocno taka brat eden dusman pomalku


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September 30 2003, 8:04 AM

Zdravo Gemidzii,

Taka e brat eden zverski, zlocinski i dushmanski neprijatel na makedonija i 
na makedonskiot narod pomalku. I so toa jas i site nie MAKEDONSKI KOMITI I 
PATRIOTI vo VMRO-MNM sme sreknji i gordi i veruvam deka mnogo makedonci go 
delat istoto mislenje shto eden fanatik, neprijatel provokator, agresor, 
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pomalku....Da dade gospod da se ubivat sekoj den po nekolku takovi 
makedonski predavnichki zverovi, da se ubivat zlochinski i dushmanski 
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unishtuvach na makedonija i na makedonskata nacija....

Vidovme na televiziskite ekrani i chitavme vesnicite kaj shto beshe golema 
propaganda deka taa makedonska neprijatelka i dushmanka ja prglasuja kako 
"golem politichar i aktivist deka se borela demokratski za chovekovi prava i 
za mir vo svetot". Taka e zapadot si ima teshka i golema mediumska anti 
demokratska, provokatorska, agresorska, falcifikatorska, teroristichka 
mashinerija za propagandi kon nivnite anti demokratski, biokratski, 
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objavuvano i vo makedonskite mediumi kako i vo del drugji madiumu vo svetot 
a tie mediumi se pod kontrola na gore spmenatite zapdni fanatici, 
dushmani.........
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prijateli....Gospod da chuva i da brani kakva zhal i greota za takva 
porodica i prijateli i za takva orospija, fanatik i dushman shto 
sorabotuvashe so novo dojdenite divi pleminja na makedonskata zemja i shto 
gji podrzhavashe za unishtuvanje na makedonija i na makedonskata nacija. Tie 
mediumi, odnosno kurvinskite, agresorskite, provokatorskite novinari ne 
kazhuvaa i ne pishuvaa koga taa orospija, fanatik, agresor, provokator, 
unishtuvach na makedonija i na makedonskiot narod so golemi sorabotki i 
podrshki na i so shiptarskite ekstremisti, razbojnici, agresori, 
provokatori, teroristi, ubici, nacisti, fa****i kaj shto pravea zlocinski i 
dusmanski genocid i etnichko chistenje na makedonski narod vo Vardarskiot 
del na Makeodnija. Znachi ne e zhal i greota za decata, za naj bliskite vo 
semestvata i za prijatelite za site tie makedonci cheda shto zlochinski i 
dushmanski bea macheni, ubieni i masakrirani od shiptarskite gnasni 
ekstremisti, razbojnici, teroristi.......

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pozdravi od site MAKEDONSKI KOMITI I PATRIOTI VO VMRO-MNM.

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Se napravi atentat na Nadvoresniot Minister Anna Lindh na PSPS-FSPOS
September 10 2003 at 10:41 AM MAKEDONSKI KOMITA   (no login)

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Ämne: Se napravi atentat na Nadvoresniot Minister na FSPOS Anna Lindh!
Datum: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 18:15:43 +0000

Vnatresna Makedonska Revolucionerna Organizacija - Makedonija Na Makedoncite 
(VMRO-MNM)!
Pretsedatel: Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet

Kontakti na privremeni E-mail adresi: Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet 
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10 Septemvri 2003

Na den 10 Septemvri 2003 g. Okplu 16.20 satot. Se napravi atentat na 
Nadvoresniot Minister Anna Lindh na Poranesna Skandinavska Provincija 
Svedska (FSPOS). Atentatot se napravil vo eden trgovski centar "NK" vo 
centarot na Stokholem.
Anna Lindh se vo momentot operisuva vo bolnicata vo Stokholm od teskite 
povredi so nekolku zabodi so nos. Sostojbata na nadvoresniot minister Anna 
Lindh e vo teska sostojba no ne e opasna za zivotot. Anna Lindh bese i 
seuste e edna osoba, faktor i fanatik koj sto e edna od naj golemite 
sorabotnici i prijateli na siptarskite ekstremisti, nacisti, fasisti, 
teroristi, pedofili, psihopati, sizofrenicari, agresori, provokatori, ubici 
i mafijaski banditi. Taja Anna Linhh e golem agresor, provokator i fanatik 
koj sto gi podrzavase gnasinite i sasmrdenite kavfkazki ekstremisticki, 
teroristicki i mafiojo banditskite bandi koj sto vo 2001 godina predizvikaa 
vojna vo nasiot mil i drag Vardarski del na Makedonija i zaedno so nejzina 
podrska od 2001 g. i do den deneska siptarskite ekstremisti, teroristi i 
mafijaski banditi pravea i seuste pravat zverski, dusmanski macenja, ubistva 
i masakri na Makedonskiot narod i kidnapiranje na stotina Makedonski civili, 
deca, zeni i starci kaj sto se zverski i dusmanski maceni i silovani nasite 
Makedonki i zverski i dusmanski ubieni i masakrirani. Isto taka pravea 
zverski i dusmansi GENOCID i ETNICKO CISTENJE NAD MAKEDONSKIOT NAROD.
Nadvoresniot minister na Poranesna Skandinavska Provincija Svedska (FSPOS) 
Anna Lindh e edna osoba so drugi desetina voeni zlocinci, fanatici, 
provokatori i agresori zapisanna i registrirana kako Voen zlocinec za 
zversko i dusmansko etnicko cistenje i zverski i dusmanski genocid nad 
Makedonskiot narod. Se razbira vo crnata lista, odnosno vo Deklaracijata koj 
sto e napisana na angliski jazik (Declaration February 13, 2001) na 
Vnatresna Makedonska Revolucionerna Organizacija - Makedonija Na Makedoncite 
(VMRO-MNM).

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RE: Eden neprijatel na Makedonija i na Makedonskiot narod pomalku. September 
11 2003, 12:46 AM

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Ämne: Nadvoresnata ministerka za nadvoresni raboti Anna Lindh na FSPOS umre.
Datum: Thu, 11 Sep 2003 08:18:31 +0000

Vnatresna Makedonska Revolucionerna Organizacija - Makedonija Na Makedoncite 
(VMRO-MNM)!
Pretsedatel: Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet

Kontakti na privremeni E-mail adresi: Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet 
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11 Septemvri 2003

Novi informacii za atentatot na Nadvoresnata ministerka za nadvoresni raboti 
Anna Lindh na Poranesna Skandinavska Provincija Svedska (FSPOS).

Kako sto vi izjaviv vcera navecer deka atentatot se napravil na Anna Lindh i 
bese prenesena vo bolnicata vo Stoholm, taka da celo nokno se operirala od 
teskite povredi koj sto bila ubodena nekolku pati vo gradi i vo stomah od 
nepoznatiot atentator. No se sluci i naj teskoto. Anna Lindh po dolgi 
casovni operacii im podlegnala na teskite povredi, rano sabajle na 11 
Septemvri 2003 g. vo 05.29 satot Anna Lindh umre na vozrast od 46 g.

Cela nokna masivna policiska akcija i seuste se bara atentatorot koj sto ja 
ubi Anna Lindh, no bez uspeh, atentatorot e seuste na sloboda. Po izjavite 
na svedocite koj sto go videle atentatorot na lice mesto imal lik na 
svegjanin, taka da sega svegjanite nemozat da kazat deka stranec e 
atentator.

Site politicki partii ja odlozija za neodredeno vreme kapanjata za izmena na 
krunata za EURO, koj sto trebase da se napravat izborite (Referendumot) na 
den 14 septemvri 2003 g. Informacii seuste nema dali izborite ke se odlozat 
za druga data.

SO MAKEDONSKI BRATSKI, KOMITSKI I PATRIOTSKI POZDRAVI!

VECNO DA ZIVEE MAKEDONSKATA ZEMJA!

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September 19 2003, 10:42 PM

samo napred, gospod e so nas!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Zdravo brat Dejan
September 30 2003, 6:04 AM

Taka e brat samo napred i so gospod napred borba za obedinuvanje na 
makedonija i borba za spas na napteniot i porobeniot makedonski narod....

GOSPOD DA JA BLAGOSLOVI MAKEDONIJA I NAPATENIOT I POROBENIOT MAKEDONSKI 
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SMRT ZA KLETITE I DUSHMANSKITE NEPRIJATELI I OKUPATORI NA MAKEDONIJA I NA 
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VECHNO DA ZHIVEE MAKEDONSKATA ZEMJA I DOBRIOT MAKEDONSKI NAROD.

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Koe vi e zbornoto mesto koj site kontakt sto ste napravile za Makedonija 
dali pustate pisma na celi servisi ili samo na onie koj ja znaat vistinata 
milo mi e no mnogu amateri ima zatoa nema uspeh sto ste donirale pecalbari 
kaj vi e politickata aktivnost da dojdevte za vreme na popisot za 4 dena 
bese napraven samo se cukate vo gradi i potoa grcite siptarite i bugarite 
nema da ne gazat ke ne gazat nisto ne rabotite za Makedonija barem ako gi 
pustate ovie pisma pustajte gi na luge sto ne se makedonci sto ne ja znaat 
Makedonija i vistinata za Makedoncite a ne na luge koj stradat od Makedonija 
i se borat za neja.
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Ämne: Re: Vnimanie
Datum: Mon, 01 Sep 2003 14:40:09 0000

Zdravo Xxxxxx Xxxxxxxxx,
Kako prvo, blagodaram za porakata so tvoite kritiki.
Za sve sto gubi i strada Makedonija i Makedonskiot narod sme nie samite 
Makedonci naj golemi vinovnici zatoa sto ne sme edinstveni, ne sme obedineti 
i ne sorabotuvame kako sto sorabotuvaat nasite neprijateli i okupatori, pa 
zatoa nasite dusmanski neprijateli i okupatori ne gazele i ne ubivale i vo 
idnina kje ne gazat i kje ne ubivat. Zar ti samiot ne gledas kavi sme nie 
Makedoncite eden so drug si lubomorime, si zaviduvame, si gi vadime ocite i 
se unistuvame. Pogledi ti kolku Makedonski predavnicki zverovi imame 
(iljadnici neli e taka). Mekedonskiot narod denesno vreme se gordee so 
Makedonkite korptirani bandi, Makedonskiot narod se gordee so Makedonskite 
predavnicki zverovi. Se dodeka Makedonija i Makedonskiot narod ima na 
iljadnici zlocinski izrodi nie dobrite, cesnite i realnite Makedonci kje 
stradame i vo idnina.
Sto se odnesuva za popisot, nemoj da gji obvinuvas Makedoncite koj sto se 
nadvor od Makedonija (Makedonskata emigracija). I tie Makedonci sto se 
nadvor od Makedonija ne se obedineti i ne se edinstveni, nego i tie si 
zaviduvat i si lubomorat. Koj sto napravil i kako napravil toa jas ne mozam 
na ovo pismo da ti objasnam. No mozam da ti kazam deka nie od organizacijata 
VMRO-MNM ne se cukame vo gradi nego javno rabotime i se borime za majka 
Makeodnija i za napateniot Makedonski narod. Popisi se pravat samo po kjefot 
na siptarskite gnasotii i nivnite zelbi im se ispolnuvat. Zosto ne se pravi 
popisi za da se znaae kolku Makedonci ima vo porobenite Makedonski delovi vo 
taka narecenite "albnija, grcija, bugarija i zrbija". VMRO-MNM raboti i se 
bori za da go obedini i Makedonskiot narod, no mnogo e tesko da se raboti so 
nasiot narod i ne saka da se obedini. Nie Makedoncite brgu se naverduvame 
ako nekoj Makedonec mu rece deka ne si vo pravo ili ne ste vo pravo iako mu 
gji kazuvas vistinite i sto treba da storime za dobroto na Makeodnija i na 
narodot Makedonski.
Toa e dobro sto si go napisal no ne si dovolno zapoznaen so aktivnostite i 
borbite na organizacijata VMRO-MNM za Makedonskata kauza i za afirmacija za 
vistinata na Makedonija i na Makedonskiot narod. Pa zatoa tebe i na masivno 
na nasi Makedonci koj sto imaat email konta im isprakjame nasi materijali. 
Nie isprakjame nasi matrerijali sirom celiot svet preko e-mail i toa na 
iljadnici e-mail adresi na site politicki i ne politicki institucii i 
asosijacii. Pa isto taka isprakjame i na site nacionalnosti koj sto imat 
e-mail adresi na internet.
Nie clenovite na organizacijata VMRO-MNM imamvme otvoreno 40 hotmail konta 
(adresi) pred nekoj den ednata adresa se zatvori, naj verovatno na nekoi im 
smetal nasiot matreijal. Tie e-mail adresi se za da prakjame pisma, 
dokumenti i fakti za vistinata na Makedonija i na narodot Makeodnski.
Pogledni gi tie e-maili so iminjata na naj golemite Makedonski sinovi i 
bogovi:

"JAS SUM MAKEDONEC A NE FYROMEC" redacted@hotmail.com,
"VMRO-MNM Makedonija Na Makedoncite" 
redacted@hotmail.com ,
"VMRO-MNM" redacted@hotmail.com,
"Macedonia for the Macedonians" redacted@hotmail.com,
"Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet" redacted@hotmail.com,
"VMRO-MNM TREPET" redacted@hotmail.com,
"Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet" redacted@hotmail.com,
"Filip II Makedonski" redacted@hotmail.com,
"Filip II Makedonski The Great Of Macedonian" 
redacted@hotmail.com,
"Aleksandar III Makedonski-Veliki" 
redacted@hotmail.com,
"Aleksandar III Makedonski The Great Of Macedonian" 
redacted@hotmail.com, "Aristotle of 
Macedonian" redacted@hotmail.com,
"Konstantin The Great" redacted@hotmail.com,
"Car Konstantin The Great" redacted@hotmail.com,
"Car Konstantin The Great Of Macedonia" 
redacted@hotmail.com,
"Justinjan The Great" redacted@hotmail.com,
"Car Justinjan The Great" redacted@hotmail.com,
"Car Justinjan The Great Of Macedonia" 
redacted@hotmail.com,
"Car Samoil The Great" redacted@hotmail.com,
"Car Samoil The Great Of Macedonia" 
redacted@hotmail.com,
"St. Kiril And Metodij Of Macedonia" 
redacted@hotmail.com,
"St. Kliment Ohridski Of Macedonia" 
redacted@hotmail.com,
"St. Naum Ohridski Of Macedonia" redacted@hotmail.com,
"Goce Delcev-Velikanot" redacted@hotmail.com,
"Goce Delcev The Great Of Macedonia" 
redacted@hotmail.com,
"Goce Delcev-Vojvoda" redacted@hotmail.com,
"Jane Sandanski-Vojvoda" redacted@hotmail.com,
"Nikola Karev-Vojvoda" redacted@hotmail.com,
"Dame Gruev-Vojvoda" redacted@hotmail.com,
"Gjorce Petrov-Vojvoda" redacted@hotmail.com,
"Pitu Guli-Vojvoda" redacted@hotmail.com,
"Metodija Andonov-Cento Vojvoda" redacted@hotmail.com,
"Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet Vojvoda" 
redacted@hotmail.com,
"MACEDONIAN REVOLUTIONARY" redacted@hotmail.com,
"MACEDONIAN PATRIOT" redacted@hotmail.com,
"MAKEDONSKI KOMITA" redacted@hotmail.com,
"MAKEDONSKI PATRIOT" redacted@hotmail.com,

Brat Xxxxxx Xxxxxxxxx primi komitski pozdravi i do citanje!

SLOBODA ILI SMRT ZA MAKEDONIJA I ZA NARODOT MAKEDONSKI

EDEN ZA SITE I SITE ZA EDEN

MAKEDONIJA NA MAKEDONCITE


MAKEDONSKI KOMITA

P.S. Toj materijal sto ti si go dobil na tvojata e-mail go dobivat kako sto 
ti spomnav pogore na pismoto. Jas kje ti kopiram na ovo pismo eden del na od 
e-mail adresi na nasi Makedonci i na stranski e-mail adresi, se nadevam deka 
kje odvois vreme za da gi pregledas e-mail adresite i da vidis civise tie 
e-mail adresi. Se izvinuvam sto kje moram da ti ispratam skoro deset iljadi 
e-mail adresi i kje potrosis dosta vreme za da gi pregledas site tie e-mail 
adresi. No veruvaj mi deka samo od tie deset ilijadi e-mail adresi imat 
procitano naj verovatno sto iljadi luge. A da ti kazam deka sekoj den se 
prakja matrealot od VMRO-MNM i od G-dinot TREPET, se razbira na 1500 do 3000 
iljadi e-mail adresi na luge koj sto imat e-mail adresi na internet.


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Stanko
Unregistered User
(9/4/03 11:06 pm)
Reply  Ti si predavnik!
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More gomnar nieden a so si doniral ti od Svedska.Nemoj mnogu da se 
mangupiras.


Petre Komita
Unregistered User
(9/25/03 6:05 am)
Reply  jas donirav
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jas da vi kazam za vreme na vojnata donirav dva pati po 100$ vo crkvata a 
kaj otidoa tie pari neznam rekoja deka bile za familite na poginatite borci


MACEDONIAN REVOLUTIONARY
Registered User
Posts: 161
(9/30/03 4:02 am)
Reply  RE: Stanko ti si gomnar i predavnik!
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Stanko mnogo si gnasen vo taa ustata i imash dolg jazik koj shto lizhi 
zadnici na vnatreshnite i na nadvoreshnite kleti i dushmanski 
neprijateli.....

Ne treba da nagagjam kon kogo ja imash napishano tvojata gnasna i navredliva 
kritika....Se razbira tvojata gnasna i navredlivata kritka e protiv 
Makedonskiot golem sin i Vojvoda G-dinot TREPET......Ako sakash da znaesh 
koj se predavnici i gomanri...E tie kako tebe shto gji podrzhavat 
makedonskite banditi, razbojnici, izrodi i predavnichki zverovi shto go 
pljachkaat makedonskiot narod, shto pijat makedonska krv, shto isprodadoaa 
sve shto i na makedonija i na makedonskiot narod, shto ja prodavaat 
makedonskata istorija i simbolite na makedonskiot narod...

Ne sakam mnogo da komuniciram so lugje koj shto se simpatizeri i chlenovi na 
anti makedonski partii i organizacii...No sakam samo ovo da ti kazham deka 
si vo golema greshka ili so zlonamerno go napagjash i vregjash G-dinot 
TREPET....Ako sakash da znaaesh, odnosno G-din TREPET imashe na mnogo 
makedonci kazhano shto on doniral za makedonija i za narodot 
makedonski....G-din TREPET nema davano pari na anti makedonski, predavnichki 
i banditski partii i organizacii, nogo on ima trosheno i seushte troshi 
teshki pari za afirmacija za vistinata na makedonija i za makedonskiot narod 
i toa od 1991 godina pa do den denes troshi svoi pari za da go zapoznava 
narodot vo ovaj crni i anti demokratski svet...A da ne zborime za negovata 
ogromna aktivnost i celiot trud shto go troshi i posvetuva samo (za 
makedonskata kauza) za makedonija i za narodot makedonski....

Za povishe komentari ne zasluzhuvash.....

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VECHNO DA ZHIVEE VMRO-MNM (MAKEDONIJA NA MAKEDONCITE).

VECHNO DA ZHIVEE GOLEMIOT MAKEDONSKI SIN I VOJVODA GOSPODIN TREPET.

MAKEDONIJA NA MAKEDONCITE.

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MACEDONIAN REVOLUTIONARY
Registered User
Posts: 162
(9/30/03 5:17 am)
Reply  RE: jas donirav
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Zdravo brate Petre Komita,

Brat Petre ti si doniral dva pati po 100$ i toa e mnogo od eden makedonoc. I 
ti kako shto velish kade otidoaa tie pari...
Mnogo makedonci imaa davano pari za vo vremeto na vojnata vo 2001 i pred 
vojnata pa i seushte ima makedonci shto davaat pari za makedonija i za 
narodot makedonski, no za zhal tie pari se davaat na makedonski banditi, 
razbojnici i predavnichki kleti dushmani. Makedoncite vo dijasporata 
donirale i seushte donirat vo tie anti makedonski pljachkashki i 
unishtuvachki partii i organizacii i gji bogatat makedonskite banditi, 
razbojnici i predavnichki zverovi koj shto pijat makedonska krv i ja 
unishtuvat makedonija, makedonskata istorija, kultura, tradicii i simboli i 
shto ja unishtuvat makedonskata nacija.

Petre Komita mnogo mala suma se ima podeleno na familiite od poginatite 
makedonski borci koj shto bea vo redovite, odnosno vo anti makedonskite 
borbeni strukturi. Tie nashi mladi makedonski borci, makeodnski heroi i 
makedonski sinovi poginaa i od niv bea zverski i dushmanski macheni, ubieni 
i masakrirani tokmu od makedonski kleti i dushmanski isrodi i predavnichki 
zverovi koj shto sorabotuvaa i seushte sorabotuvaat so shiptarskite 
ekstremisti, razbojnici i teroristi koj shto se pod komanda i kontrola na 
zapadnite fanatici, varvari, nacisti i fashisti. Taka da nishto da ne ti e 
chudno i sumlivo kade se otideni i vo koi bamdotski i razbojnichki race 
padnale teshkite miljoni dolari (marki), shilinzi, funti, frankovi, kruni i 
evra od 1991 godina pa do den dens.....Tie teshki miljoni od zapadnite 
vlauti shto makedocite vo dijasporata gji imat dadeno gji finasiraa i 
bogatea i seushte gji finasiraat i bogatat makedonskite banditi, razbojnici, 
mafijashi i predavnichki kleti, dushmanski zverovi....Taka da so tie teshki 
muljoni od Makedoncite od dijasporata (Makedonskata emigracija) ja 
finasiraat i seushte ja finasiraat golemata makedonska banditska, 
razbojnichka, mafijashka i predavnichka organizacija koj shto se ima 
podeleno na nekolku taka narecheni makedonski politichki partii i 
organizacii. Ne samo da Makedonskata emigracija gji finasira makedonskite 
banditi, razbojnici, mafijashi i predavnichki zverovi tie se finasraat i od 
atinjanskite, mongolsko tatarskite, srpsko-chetnichkite i shiptarskite 
ekstremistichki, razbojnichki, mafijashki, nacistichki, fashistichki i 
teroristichki organizacii pa i od tajnite shpijunski, varvarski, 
teroristichki i unishtuvachki zapadni organizacii (institucii i 
asosijacii).....

I toa da ti kazham. Dosega se nema javno objaveno niedna lista ili dokumenti 
so fakti vo mediumite deka tlku pari se imat sobrano od Makedoncite vo 
dijasporata nite pak vo idnina kje se objavi nekoja lista (dokument i fakt) 
kolku pari se imat sobrano i kade i na kogo i kolku pari se imat podeleno na 
napatenite i porobenite makedonci......Sve e toa samo tajno i zamachkuvanje 
ochite na makedonskiot narod i ogromni prevari na makeodnskiot narod od 
makedonskite banditi, razbojnici, mafijashi i predavnichki zverovi......

Brat Petre bidi bratski, komitski i patriotski pozdraven i sakam da te 
predupredam, odnosno sakam da ti dadam sovet i predlog. Jas kako dobar, 
realen i chesen makeodnski komita i patriot vo idnina nemoj da davash pari 
za makedonija i za narodot makedonski poshto tie pari ne se davat na 
dobriot, napateniot i porobeniot makeodnski narod. Tie pari pagjaat vo 
racete na gore spomentatite..........

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Petre Komita
Unregistered User
(11/1/03 6:55 pm)
Reply  samo taka
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pozdrav i do tebe bratko samo so vakvi kako tebe moze da napreduva 
makedonija a ne predavnici kako ovaj stanko i ova vlast komjunarska sto samo 
krade i laze


MACEDONIAN REVOLUTIONARY
Registered User
Posts: 165
(11/6/03 2:48 am)
Reply  Re: samo taka
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Makedonski komitski i patriotski pozdrav i do tebe brat Petre Komita!

Shteta golema shto povishe makedonski komiti i patrioti kako tebe ne se 
javuvat na ovaj forum, odnosno se javuvaa no mnogo brgo se ignorirat od 
makedonskite prodadeni dushi (makedonskite predavnici kleti dushmani i 
zverovi). Isto taka makedonskite komiti i patrioti na site forumi se 
ignorirat-banirat pa i se otkrivat i se prijavuaat na makedonskite 
predavnicki i banditski spiunski tajni sluzhbi.
Brat Petre Komita shteta golema e i shto MAKEDONSKITE KOMITI I PATRIOTI ne 
se obedineti i ne se zachleneti vo MAKEDONSKATA REVOLUCIONERNA, KOMITSKA I 
PATRIOTSKA ORGANIZACIJA VMRO-MNM (MAKEDONIJA NA MAKEDONCITE). Koga site 
MAKEDOSKI KOMITI I PATRIOTI bi bile obedineti i zachleneti vo VMRO-MNM 
veruvaj mi deka MAKEDONIJA kje napreduva mnogo i MAKEDONSKIOT NAROD nema da 
strada i da zhivee vo strav i totalna katastrofalna beda, niti pak 
MAKEDONSKIOT NAROD nema da ja gubi svojata mila MAKEDONIJA i svojata 
istorija i sve drugo.
MAKEDONSKIOT NAROD nema vlast nego ima samo taka narechena vlast koj e 
sostavena od makedonski predavnici, dushmani, zverovi i banditi i voedno 
sostavena so shiptarski ekstremisti, teroristi, ubici, mafijashi i 
razbojnici.....A za takava anti makedonska, predavnichka, teroristichka, 
razbojnichka, mafijashka i banditska vlast se pogolem del naj golemite 
vinovnici makedonskiot narod. Toj makedonski narod im ja dava vlasta i gji 
podrzhava predavnici i banditite (Eve na primer kako ovaj predavnikot 
stanko).......

Brat Petre Komita za sega tolku od mene i kje se chitame.

Te pozdravuvam so naj iskreni, bratski, komitski i patriotski pozdravi.

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TREPET  07-Nov-03, 03:38 PM (GMT)

"Promena na adresa!"

Vnatresna Makedonska Revolucionerna Organizacija - Makedonija Na Makedoncite 
(VMRO-MNM)
Pretsedatel: Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet

Pocituvani dobri, realni, napateni, zagrozeni i porobeni braka i sestri 
Makedonki i Makedonci!

So ova moja kratka poraka, odnosno so informacija sakam da ve izvestam samo 
vas dobrite, realnite, napatenite, zagrozenite i porobenite braka i sestri 
Makedonki i Makedonci, deka od 1 noemvri 2003 g. Jas ja smeniv mojata adresa 
i voedno kontakt adresata na Organizacijata VMRO-MNM, odnosno domasnata 
postanska adrersa, ova adresa vise ne postoi;
Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet
Koppargården 13 C
261 43 LANDSKRONA
SWEDEN

Za vo idnina, dokolku sakate da imate kontakti so mene i so Organizacijata 
VMRO-MNM ve molam da se obratite na Elektronskite posti na Organizacijata 
VMRO-MNM i na moite E-mail adresi "Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet" 
redacted@hotmail.com, "Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet" redacted@hotmail.com

E-mail adresi na Organizacijata VMRO-MNM;
"JAS SUM MAKEDONEC A NE FYROMEC" redacted@hotmail.com, 
"Filip II Makedonski" redacted@hotmail.com, "Filip II Makedonski The 
Great Of Macedonian" 
redacted@hotmail.com, "Aleksandar III 
Makedonski-Veliki" redacted@hotmail.com, "Aleksandar 
III Makedonski The Great Of Macedonian" 
redacted@hotmail.com, "Aristotle of 
Macedonian" redacted@hotmail.com, "Konstantin The Great" 
redacted@hotmail.com, "Car Konstantin The Great" 
redacted@hotmail.com, "Car Konstantin The Great Of 
Macedonia" redacted@hotmail.com, "Justinjan The 
Great" redacted@hotmail.com, "Car Justinjan The Great" 
redacted@hotmail.com, "Car Justinjan The Great Of Macedonia" 
redacted@hotmail.com, "Car Samoil The Great" 
redacted@hotmail.com, "Car Samoil The Great Of Macedonia" 
redacted@hotmail.com, "St. Kiril And Metodij Of 
Macedonia" redacted@hotmail.com, "St. Kliment 
Ohridski Of Macedonia" redacted@hotmail.com, "St. 
Naum Ohridski Of Macedonia" redacted@hotmail.com, "Goce 
Delcev-Velikanot" redacted@hotmail.com, "Goce Delcev The Great 
Of Macedonia" redacted@hotmail.com, "Goce 
Delcev-Vojvoda" redacted@hotmail.com, "Jane Sandanski-Vojvoda" 
redacted@hotmail.com, "Nikola Karev-Vojvoda" 
redacted@hotmail.com, "Dame Gruev-Vojvoda" 
redacted@hotmail.com, "Gjorce Petrov-Vojvoda" 
redacted@hotmail.com, "Pitu Guli-Vojvoda" 
redacted@hotmail.com, "Metodija Andonov-Cento Vojvoda" 
redacted@hotmail.com, "Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet 
Vojvoda" redacted@hotmail.com, "Ljupco 
Mircevski-Trepet" redacted@hotmail.com, "VMRO-MNM TREPET" 
redacted@hotmail.com, "Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet" redacted@hotmail.com, 
"MACEDONIAN REVOLUTIONARY" redacted@hotmail.com, "Macedonia 
for the Macedonians" redacted@hotmail.com, "VMRO-MNM Makedonija Na 
Makedoncite" redacted@hotmail.com, "VMRO-MNM" 
redacted@hotmail.com, "VMRO-MNM MACEDONIA FOR THE 
MACEDONIANS" redacted@hotmail.com, "MACEDONIAN 
PATRIOT" redacted@hotmail.com, "MAKEDONSKI KOMITA" 
redacted@hotmail.com, "MAKEDONSKI PATRIOT" 
redacted@hotmail.com

Pocituvani dobri, realni, napateni, zagrozeni i porobeni braka i sestri 
Makedonki i Makedonci Vi blagodaram za Vaseto vnimanie i za Vasite kontakti.

So Makedonski bratski, komitski i patriotski pozdravi do site dobri, verni, 
cesni, realni, napateni, zagrozeni i porobeni brakja i sestri Makedonki i 
Makedonci, od site nas vernite, cesnite, vistinskite i realnite Makedonski 
komiti i patriotite od Organizacijata VMRO-MNM (Makedonija Na Makedoncite).

VECNO DA ZIVEE MAKEDONSKATA ZEMJA!

VECNO DA ZIVEE MAKEDONSKIOT NAROD!

GOSPOD DA JA BLAGOSLOVI NASATA ZEMJA MAKEDONIJA I GOSPOD DA GO BLAGOSLOVI 
NASIOT MAKEDONSKI NAROD!

SMRT ZA SIPTARISKITE-BALISTI, EKSTREMISTI, RAZBOJNICI, NACISTI, FASISTI, 
TERORISTI, UBICI, SIZOFRENICARI, PEDOFILI, PSIHOPATI I MAFIJASKI BANDIT!

SMRT ZA SITE ZAPADNI OKUPATORSKI CIZMARI, NACISTI, FASISTI, VARVARI, 
TERORISTI, RAZBOJNOCI, UBICI, PLJACKASI, BIOKRATI I FANATICI STO SE VLEZENI 
KAKO AGRESORI, PROVOKATORI, UBICI, OKUPATORI I PLJACKASI VO NASATA MILA I 
SAKANA TATKOVINA MAKEDONIJA!

SMRT ZA IZRODITE MAKEDONSKI PREDAVNICKI ZVEROVI-ZVERSKI, ZA DRZAVNITE 
MAFIJASKI BANDITI I RAZBOJNICI !

SLOBODA ILI SMRT ZA OBEDINETA MAKEDONSKA DRZAVA I ZA MAKEDONSKIOT NAROD !

EDEN ZA SITE I SITE ZA EDEN!

TOA E PORAKATA OD MAKEDONSKIOT KOMITA I PATRIOT TREPET I OD SITE HRABRI 
MAKEDONSKI KOMITI, PATRIOTI I BORCI......

VECNO DA ZIVEE MAKEDONSKATA NACIONALNA, REVOLUCIONERNA, KOMITSKA I 
PATRIOTSKA ORGANIZACIJA VMRO-MNM (MAKEDONIJA NA MAKEDONCITE)!

JAS SUM MAKEDONEC A NE FYROMEC!

NIE SME MAKEDONCI A NE FYROMCI!

MAKEDONIJA NA MAKEDONCITE!


Pretsedatel Na Makedonskata Organizacija VMRO-MNM

Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet


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The Western World propaganda about MACEDONIA AND THE MACEDONIAN NATION!

http://www.acdi-cida.gc.ca/CIDAWEB/webcountry.nsf/VLUDocEn/FormerYugoslavRepublicofMacedonia-Projects


http://www.cc.ece.ntua.gr/~conster/PageData/proposed_names.htm


Proposed names for FYROM


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Since the name "Macedonia" cannot be justified for FYROM, we must see if 
there are other names that suit that state better. Here are 2 proposed 
names:

Vardaria
The area of FYROM, just as soon the WWI ended was named as Vardaska Banovina 
which means the Vardar (Axios) river valley. That was the first name that 
was invented for that specific area as soon as it was liberated from the 
Othoman occupation. It certainly is most suitable for FYROM, since the term 
Vardaria fits to all the area of FYROM (while the term "Macedonia" doesn't) 
and it was invented to identify FYROM (while the name "Macedonia" was 
invented to identify Greeks).

Centro-Balkanian Republic
This is the second most fitting name for FYROM, since it geographically 
describes FYROM 100%, and as a name there is no "national" character, which 
means that it can be used to identify the multi-national state of FYROM.

Any other proposed names are welcome.
Help those people find a name for them, because it is really embarrassing 
(and pathetic) for them to steal names that are already in use!


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Updated 25 March 1999


READ ABOUT MACEDONIA!

THE TRUTH ABOUT MACEDONIA AND THE MACEDONIAN NATION!

Message From:

The Internal Macedonian Revolutionary Organization - Macedonian for the 
Macedonians (VMRO-MNM)!

Tihs is not a commercial. This is about a nation that has suffered deeply, a 
nation the world has forgotten about.
The Macedoian nation has been robbed of its history, traditions, culture, 
identity, land and so on. Everything the athenians, the "bulgarians", the 
serbs and rhe "albanians" are writing is really Macedonian. We Macedonians 
have suffered enough.We want to to show the world our struggle for for 
justice.

The media of the western world has never showed the truth about Macedonia, 
only "propaganda news".
This is the only wey for us to make our voices heard and to inform the 
world.

If you want to know the truth about Macedonia and the Macedonian nation, 
please visit the web site: www.vmro-mnm.com

Alo "atina", "sofija", "belgrad" i "tirana" ovde MAKEDONIJA!
Hallo "athens", "sofija", "belgrad" and "tirana" here is MACEDONIA!

MAKEDONIJA NA MAKEDONCITE!
MACEDONIA FOR THE MACEDONIANS!

JAS SUM MAKEDONEC A NE FYROMEC!
NIE SME MAKEDONCI A NE FYROMCI!

VECNO DA ZIVEE MAKEDONSKATA ZEMJA!
VECNO DA ZIVEE MAKEDONSKIOT NAROD!

LONG LIVE MACEDONIAN!
LONG LIVE THE MACEDONIAN NATION!

MACEDONIA BELONGS TO THE MACEDONIANS NO ONE ELSE.


Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet
President of the Macedonian Organization VMRO-MNM


Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet
Koppargården 11 A
261 43  LANDSKRONA
SWEDEN
+46 418 10554

Oct 10th 1995

The UNITED NATIONS
Secretary General
Boutros Boutros-Ghali
NEW YORK
N.Y., USA


There are 20 countries in the world that are harassing and discriminates the 
Macedonian people. Now we have had enough!!

The politicians in the rest of the world must stop this harassment and 
discrimination against our people. The athenians ("greeks") gets help from 
the 20 countries that are against the Macedonian people. 15 belonging to the 
European Union, then there is USA, Canada, Australia, Russia and Norway.

The athenians has had help to force themselves to our symbol and now they 
want to take our Macedonian name.

The 20 countries are encouraging to war in Macedonia and so will it be if 
the harassment of the Macedonian people continues. But they can not win 
neither with weapons nor money. They can not decide what another country 
should be called. The western countries can not decide over the Macedonian 
people. They can not take our symbol or our name.

The western countries should instead stop the racism and fascism that are 
spreading more and more in the countries, immigrants are abused, 
discriminated and killed. Of the 20 countries it is first USA that is trying 
to destroy Macedonia and the Macedonian people.

Bill Clinton has very friendly connections with Athens. He is playing the 
lead part in the Macedonian destruction. I think that Bill Clinton should 
take care of the problems in his own country first and foremost. Millions of 
people dies in the streets because of starvation. The racism against the 
original inhabitants, against the black population and against others, 
"unwanted" are increasing. Take care of these problems first, Bill Clinton, 
before you meddle in other countries business!!

The "big" countries wants to play masters of the world. They want to decide 
in other countries and change their identity. Our identity will stay with us 
as Macedonian people in a Macedonian state, in our hearts.

We can not accept that our king or our name is taken from us. the whole 
world knows that Filip the second and Aleksandar Makedonski were Macedonians 
not athenians. The world can not change history. They can not make our kings 
into athenians.

The historical findings that have been made have all been situated in the 
historical Macedonia not in Athens. When the grave of Filip the second was 
discovered in 1977 they found documents written in the Macedonian language 
not in the athenian language. If Filip the second had been alive he would 
never accept that the Macedonian symbols would be taken from his country. I 
do not understand why the athenians are not ashamed when they reject their 
own kings in advantage of our Macedonians. It was not until three years ago 
that the athenians put our Macedonian king Aleksandar III Makedonski on 
their coins. Why then, when they had not cared before?

Is it of fear that we would take back the Aegean part of Macedonia, is it of 
fear that in that case Athens would be one of the poorest countries in 
Europe? They can not eat stones and grass in Athens. The athenians does not 
know anything about Macedonian history. They only know propaganda and they 
are very good at that

We can not give away our macedonian kings. They are for the Macedonian 
people our parents and they will always be in our hearts. We are proud of 
them and will continue to pray for them. The Macedonian symbols will stay in 
Macedonia. They are Macedonian, Not athenians as everyone knows. We have the 
right to use our symbols and call ourselves Macedonians.

The Macedonians that live in the Aegean part of Macedonia, the Pirin part of 
Macedonia and in "Albania" suffers. In the Aegean part of Macedonia 
everything has been taken from them. Their language is forbidden, they have 
been forced to change their names. Their Macedonian identity has been stolen 
from them. In "