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| <BenjaminEdelman> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 16:38) Good morning, folks. |
| <asvensson> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 16:39) Good morning, Ben, Rebecca, Marc, John! |
| <MarcSchneiders> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 16:39) Good evening :-) |
| <asvensson> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 16:39) ...or night... |
| <JohnFrangie> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 16:40) How are you Ben? |
| <BenjaminEdelman> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 16:40) Very well, thanks, John. |
| <BenjaminEdelman> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 16:40) Things look good here. |
| <BenjaminEdelman> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 16:41) Plenty of server capacity for all, reasonable network connectivity, etc. |
| <MarcSchneiders> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 16:41) The scribe notes still says "ICANN LA", LA... |
| <JohnFrangie> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 16:41) Great, things should move along nicely. |
| <MarcSchneiders> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 16:43) Hi Leah, hi Joe! |
| <LeahG> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 16:43) Hi Marc! :) |
| <BenjaminEdelman> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 16:44) fixed that, marc. thanks. |
| <BenjaminEdelman> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 16:44) let me know if you find any other such mistakes. |
| <MarcSchneiders> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 16:44) No more mistakes. Running great, thanks! |
| <baptista_> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 16:54) why are we being subjected to the scribe - there's a scribe channe - and i see the scribe there - can the scribe stop scribing in icann-chat channel????? |
| <asvensson> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 16:55) ?! joe, i don't see a scribe in ICANN-chat? |
| <BenjaminEdelman> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 16:55) are you receiving the scribe's notes in the icann-chat channel? i'm not seeing any such thing here, and that's not intended behavior. |
| <baptista_> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 16:55) hold on - it's probably me |
| <baptista_> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 16:57) that should of fixed it |
| <baptista_> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 16:57) so i see their trying to kill the at large. |
| <MarcSchneiders> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 16:58) Well, the at large never had a chance so far to live |
| <MarciaLynn> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 16:58) hello again everyone :-) |
| <LeahG> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 16:58) hi marcia |
| <MarciaLynn> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 16:58) hi Leah |
| <baptista_> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 16:59) he wants to play United nations |
| <baptista_> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 16:59) translations galor |
| <baptista_> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 16:59) Think deeply??? |
| <asvensson> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 16:59) :)) |
| <LeahG> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 17:00) yeah, we're all so shallow you know |
| <baptista_> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 17:00) no applause today |
| <baptista_> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 17:00) is anyone in the room? |
| <KendallDawson> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 17:01) he mentioned an address to write to if you didn't get the letter that was sent to @Large members anybody catch this? |
| <LeahG> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 17:01) hi judith :) |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 17:01) Hi! What did I miss so far? |
| <LeahG> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 17:01) at-large study |
| <baptista_> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 17:02) roberto looks like he's having a bad hair day. |
| <baptista_> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 17:04) can someone tell the scribe the agenda item http://www.dnso.org/dnso/notes/20010311.Gamelbourne-agenda.html does not work. |
| <BenjaminEdelman> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 17:04) can get that url from dnso.org if i messed it up. let me check.; |
| <asvensson> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 17:05) it's http://www.dnso.org/dnso/notes/20010311.GAmelbourne-agenda.html |
| <asvensson> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 17:05) big GA |
| <baptista_> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 17:08) that works |
| <MarcSchneiders> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 17:08) How many people are there in the room? Any ideas? |
| <baptista_> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 17:09) i guess the scribe is having a bad hair day too - does anyone know how many people are at this meeting? |
| <BenjaminEdelman> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 17:11) my hair is fine, thank you. |
| <baptista_> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 17:11) poor elizabeth portenuve - she was hoping for a full time job from this - instead she's ended up on a sinking ship - DNSO ahoy .. |
| <BenjaminEdelman> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 17:11) but please remember to keep discussion on topic. |
| <MarcSchneiders> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 17:11) How about the question asked to the number of people in the room? |
| <BenjaminEdelman> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 17:12) I'd say there are 150 people here at the moment. |
| <baptista_> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 17:12) this is on topic - dnso budget items - which leads me to ask ben - do they yet have their swanky office up and running in paris? |
| <MarcSchneiders> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 17:12) Thanks! |
| <baptista_> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 17:13) remeber - the budget included hiring elizabeth for the job of full time computer person/admin - but that never happened - did it? |
| <KendallDawson> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 17:14) What ever happened in the NC Telcon with the establishment of an Indiviual Constituency? |
| <KendallDawson> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 17:14) I seem to remember that Ken Stubbs mentioned it.. but they ran out of time. |
| <baptista_> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 17:15) they don't want an individual constituency - the dnso is tightly controlled. fox guarding the hen house sort of thing - all show - no substance. |
| <MarciaLynn> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 17:17) hi judith - good to see you again :-) |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 17:17) Hi ML. :-) |
| <MarciaLynn> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 17:17) :-) |
| <MarciaLynn> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 17:17) hi john :-) |
| <MarciaLynn> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 17:17) hi ben :-) |
| <JohnFrangie> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 17:19) Hi Marcia |
| <LeahG> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 17:19) brb |
| <MarciaLynn> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 17:21) agree with you above babtista |
| <MarcSchneiders> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 17:24) Hi Dena! |
| <quasar-orsc> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 17:25) Hi Marc |
| <MarciaLynn> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 17:25) hi quasar :-) |
| <quasar-orsc> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 17:26) Hi Marcia, juggling windows here today. |
| <MarciaLynn> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 17:26) me too |
| <MarcSchneiders> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 17:28) Why is there no IP report? |
| <MarciaLynn> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 17:29) hmm |
| <asvensson> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 17:29) Marc: Seems no one was there from IPC |
| <MarcSchneiders> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 17:29) And why not? :-) |
| <RogerKeating> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 17:31) Is the video operating yet? |
| <MarciaLynn> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 17:31) yes roger |
| <RogerKeating> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 17:31) I am not receiv ing it...hmm... |
| <RogerKeating> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 17:33) okay, coming in now. |
| <RebeccaNesson> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 17:41) Pindar Wong's presentation on the At Large Study Committee is available at <http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/icann/melbourne/archive/presentations/wong-atlarge-ga.html>. It is also linked off of the agenda for the DNSO General Assembly meeting. |
| <SotirisSotiropoulos> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 17:41) hello all |
| <MarciaLynn> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 17:41) hello sotiris |
| <SotirisSotiropoulos> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 17:42) have I missed much? |
| <MarciaLynn> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 17:42) no, imho |
| <SotirisSotiropoulos> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 17:43) is anyone in this discussion list actually present at the meeting? |
| <MarciaLynn> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 17:43) not i sotiris |
| <BenjaminEdelman> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 17:45) Rebecca and I are, of course. |
| <MarciaLynn> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 17:45) ;-) |
| <asvensson> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 17:45) Peter de Blanc is on the #scribe channel, he's in Melbourne, too |
| <SotirisSotiropoulos> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 17:46) Benjamin, may we submit questions through this list? or must we use the submission form? |
| <MarciaLynn> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 17:47) does anyone else's video/audio feed keep freezing? |
| <asvensson> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 17:47) Marcia: not here |
| <SotirisSotiropoulos> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 17:48) Leah, has your group initiated any legal action against ICANN? |
| <MarciaLynn> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 17:48) ty - 'tis happening here |
| <KendallDawson> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 17:48) Marcia - my video freezes.. but not audio. it is my bandwith limitation. |
| <SotirisSotiropoulos> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 17:48) Marcia: i'm getting a pretty good feed on a 56k laptop connection... |
| <MarciaLynn> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 17:48) i'm on a cable connection - shouldn't be any prob |
| <BenjaminEdelman> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 17:48) You must use the submission form. Our staff can't review every message here, and the database system of the submission form helps us make sure we don't miss anyone. |
| <DavidWilkins> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 17:48) I am doing ok on 33.6, feerzes occansonlly but that is a bandwidth thing |
| <BenjaminEdelman> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 17:49) Please see the introductory message to this section, which specifically says you must give your "official comments" in the submission form. |
| <SotirisSotiropoulos> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 17:49) thanks Benjamin |
| <DavidWilkins> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 17:51) Benjamin.. audio has just becomed very muffled.. |
| <MmmCow> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 17:52) it's fine for me |
| <DavidWilkins> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 17:52) MmmCow: I am on the 28kbp backup link, I presume your on the 56kb primary? |
| <MmmCow> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 17:53) I'm on a T1 |
| <MmmCow> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 17:54) oh, yes ...i'm on the 56k and up link |
| <RogerKeating> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 17:54) I'm on a can and string. |
| <SotirisSotiropoulos> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 17:54) lol |
| <MmmCow> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 17:54) hi rodger |
| <MmmCow> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 17:54) roger |
| <RogerKeating> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 17:54) Hi Cow |
| <DavidWilkins> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 17:55) Benjamin, Definatly Real 28.8 Backup, just came better |
| <RayFassett> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 17:55) I can get video, but no soumd |
| <SotirisSotiropoulos> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 17:55) So, the NC will choose the GA Chair? |
| <SotirisSotiropoulos> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 17:57) WHAT? |
| <SotirisSotiropoulos> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 17:57) how will they do this? |
| <MarciaLynn> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 17:58) my vid is gone |
| <MarciaLynn> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 17:58) and sound |
| <MarciaLynn> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 17:58) on a cable connection |
| <SotirisSotiropoulos> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 17:59) why bother with a vote? |
| <asvensson> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 17:59) Sotiris: De facto the GA elects, then the NC confirms the GA Chair |
| <asvensson> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 17:59) see http://www.dnso.org/dnso/notes/2001.DNSO-GAchair.html |
| <SotirisSotiropoulos> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 17:59) she did not say "confirm" |
| <asvensson> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 17:59) No, she said "officially elect" IIRC |
| <SotirisSotiropoulos> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 18:00) In other words, it's possible the NC can choose the least popular of the ranked candidates? |
| <KendallDawson> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 18:01) sure it's possible -- Jonathan Cohen was elected to the Board |
| <DavidWilkins> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 18:01) It sounds like they are debating how to define the true electorate, the NC just ratifies the decision of the GA |
| <asvensson> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 18:01) There is *one* winner according to the election rules (http://www.dnso.org/dnso/notes/2001.GA-chair-election-rules-v0.1.html) so it's not like a choice for the NC |
| <SotirisSotiropoulos> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 18:04) there are plenty of Individuals listed in the GA Voting Registry, yet no IDNH constituency, does this present a difficulty to the nomination of an unaffilited individual? |
| <asvensson> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 18:05) No, GA membership is independent of constituency membership. Roberto isn't any constituency member, is he? |
| <MarciaLynn> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 18:06) hello chris, good to see you again :-) |
| <ChristopherAmbler> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 18:06) Greetings from "down under." |
| <KendallDawson> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 18:06) hi chris |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 18:06) Hey Chris. |
| <SotirisSotiropoulos> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 18:06) hi Chris |
| <quasar-orsc> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 18:06) Hey Christopher...thought you were there at the meeting :) |
| <ChristopherAmbler> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 18:06) I am at the meeting :-) |
| <RogerKeating> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 18:07) Greetings, Chris. |
| <SotirisSotiropoulos> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 18:07) So, "royal fiat" will be the process of chaoice from among the GA candidates...? |
| <DavidWilkins> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 18:08) Sotiris: Sounds like unless the NC has a serious justifiable problem with the GA elected person they simply ratify.. same as it is here with the Govt in Aus/Uk |
| <LeahG-dotBIZTLD> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 18:09) Hey Chris! :) |
| <LeahG-dotBIZTLD> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 18:09) gonna keep us posted from the floor? |
| <ChristopherAmbler> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 18:10) You all get the webcast, right? I think that this meeting won't have anything spectacularly surprising, personally. |
| <RogerKeating> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 18:10) My thoughts precisely. |
| <SotirisSotiropoulos> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 18:11) ibid |
| <DavidWilkins> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 18:11) Got that impression from the BC/IP meetings I attened yesterday... |
| <RogerKeating> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 18:12) This conference is so riveting....It's got me wondering when and where the next one will be. Any ideas? |
| <DavidWilkins> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 18:12) Stokholm |
| <asvensson> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 18:12) David: The business spokesperson told about scare of multilingual domain names -- do you happen to know who gave the presentation? |
| <DavidWilkins> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 18:13) Yeah head of the IAB (John???) dont have my notes here but I suport his reasons for being scared.. could be a zoo |
| <RogerKeating> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 18:13) Is there a plan for ICANN to come to the American East Coast at some point in the near future? |
| <DavidWilkins> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 18:14) Not this year Roger.. its back to LA for the November meeting |
| <RogerKeating> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 18:14) I see. Thanks. |
| <asvensson> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 18:14) David: John Klensin, probably? |
| <DavidWilkins> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 18:14) Not sure.. probably, works for ATT |
| <DavidWilkins> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 18:15) He is a good speaker.. and made some excellant points around the issues and paying for what we have done to DNS |
| <BenEdelman> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 18:15) David, I don't think ICANN has yet announced its place of meetings past Stockholm. |
| <BenEdelman> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 18:15) I don't know that LA has been chosen for the late fall as yet. |
| <BenEdelman> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 18:15) Not to the best of my knowledge, at least. |
| <DavidWilkins> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 18:15) On the Website Ben |
| <BenEdelman> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 18:15) url? |
| <ChristopherAmbler> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 18:16) Ben, I heard a rumour that after Stockholm was going to be something in central/south america. Just a rumour, then? |
| <asvensson> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 18:16) Montevideo was announced somewhere |
| <SotirisSotiropoulos> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 18:16) Perhaps Toronto Canada should be considered? |
| <asvensson> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 18:17) http://www.atlargestudy.org/calendar.html --> Montevideo, LA |
| <BenEdelman> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 18:17) I think the Board said it was interested in a Latin American site for the September meeting. No specific location announced yet, to the best of my knowledge. |
| <DavidWilkins> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 18:17) You maybe right Ben.. I do recall seeing it when I was cheking the next meetings.. the Offical scheduled has Stockholm, the Latin America |
| <DavidWilkins> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 18:19) Roger sorry for misleading.. |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 18:20) who's talking? |
| <RogerKeating> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 18:20) np |
| <SotirisSotiropoulos> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 18:20) Joop |
| <SotirisSotiropoulos> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 18:20) Joop Teernstra |
| <MmmCow> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 18:20) you're welcome to have them here, in my house ...i'll put on some coffee, and roll out some cots ....my wifes an excellent cook. |
| <SotirisSotiropoulos> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 18:20) lol |
| <MmmCow> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 18:21) ;) |
| <baptista_> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 18:22) oh dear - were being demonized |
| <SotirisSotiropoulos> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 18:22) Christopher/Leah have your organizations initiated legal activity against ICANN? |
| <KendallDawson> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 18:22) NSI is not a good alternative... |
| <SotirisSotiropoulos> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 18:23) I don't recall reading about any such moves... |
| <ChristopherAmbler> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 18:23) No. Why would we want to do that? |
| <SotirisSotiropoulos> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 18:25) well, i was asking because one of the reasons for IOD's refusal was the fact of a currently functioning registry... whereas the choice of .biz happens to collide with an existing registry... |
| <SotirisSotiropoulos> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 18:25) what's good for the goose is good for the gander? |
| <KendallDawson> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 18:26) Let's not forget the the board also pointed out the combined registry/registrar and yet that is exaclty what VeriSign wants! |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 18:28) how long is today's webcast? |
| <asvensson> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 18:29) Judith: four hours GA, three and a half hours NC |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 18:30) thanks. |
| <SotirisSotiropoulos> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 18:31) good point on self-organization. |
| <MarciaLynn> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 18:31) yes agreed |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 18:32) Ken, I don't understand your question either. ?? |
| <KendallDawson> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 18:33) the last 2 NC telcon meetings have addressed the creation of Individual constituency |
| <Dassa> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 18:33) Not really, not when there are no guidelines to follow for making a submission for a constituency or an open process for the approval or disapproval of such submissions. |
| <KendallDawson> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 18:33) But, both times... they keep getting pushed backwards to some "future date" |
| <SotirisSotiropoulos> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 18:34) So, conceivably any group that comes forward claiming to represent individuals with an organization plan may be given constituency status? |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 18:34) Dassa, if you're suggesting arbitrary criteria will be used to reject submissions, I think so too. |
| <Dassa> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 18:35) I see no reason why any group that meets specified criteria should be rejected as a constituency. |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 18:35) Politics. |
| <SotirisSotiropoulos> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 18:35) Me neither |
| <DavidWilkins> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 18:36) Dassa: Overtime would not alist of criteria develop?? |
| <SotirisSotiropoulos> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 18:36) but what about the conceivable plethora of constituencies that could result? Does this represent a workable, viable schema? |
| <Dassa> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 18:36) Why shouldn't they be defined now and adjusted over time. |
| <KendallDawson> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 18:36) That was the point of my time question. I knew the answer. But, it would be nice to hear the GA or NC commit to something... anything! |
| <DavidWilkins> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 18:37) True but I can see a reluctance to be seen as specifing, where they are trying to make it as open as possible |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 18:38) "Individuals" are the bane of the NC's & board's existence. Talk of consideration is only lip service. |
| <Dassa> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 18:38) The criteria does not have to be overly restrictive. A basic set of Articles for inclusion in all Constitutions, membership criteria including recently raised issues and a few other points. |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 18:40) The truth is spoken! |
| <SotirisSotiropoulos> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 18:40) yes |
| <SotirisSotiropoulos> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 18:41) good for Joop! |
| <Dassa> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 18:41) Not the truth, only a viewpoint of events. |
| <SotirisSotiropoulos> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 18:41) I think the present state of the IDNO is proof of the position |
| <Dassa> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 18:42) This is a bad mistake on Joops part in my opinion. |
| <SotirisSotiropoulos> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 18:42) we're all entitled to opinions Dassa. |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 18:42) Dassa, why? |
| <MarciaLynn> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 18:42) yes, why? |
| <baptista_> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 18:44) joops talking about william walsh |
| <SotirisSotiropoulos> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 18:44) I'd like to know why as well Dassa? |
| <SotirisSotiropoulos> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 18:45) WXW's posts seem to have trickled off on the IDNO list of late... |
| <KendallDawson> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 18:45) WXW and Joop have been banned 2 or 3 times from the GA list |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 18:45) You think so? I don't ... fyi, the same two that sabotage the domain lists and doing the same on the ENUM lists. |
| <baptista_> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 18:45) what a surprise - WXW must of done the damage required and now has retired. |
| <asvensson> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 18:45) As a latecomer to the IDNO debate, I'm already tired of it and see little worth in fighting lost battles once more. If the IDNH Constituency shall have a chance to stand before the Board, the Constituency-to-be has to be much larger and much more international. |
| <SotirisSotiropoulos> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 18:45) yes |
| <SotirisSotiropoulos> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 18:45) he has done his job effectively |
| <SotirisSotiropoulos> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 18:46) well, dassa, why? |
| <SotirisSotiropoulos> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 18:46) we're waiting for your explanation. |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 18:46) And Walsh ain't on the ENUM list. |
| <Dassa> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 18:46) Joop has put forward a lot of negative views that will not assist in any attempts to raise an IDNH. |
| <SotirisSotiropoulos> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 18:46) why? |
| <SotirisSotiropoulos> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 18:47) be specific. |
| <SotirisSotiropoulos> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 18:47) please |
| <SotirisSotiropoulos> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 18:48) good comment Darryl |
| <KendallDawson> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 18:48) good question Darryl! |
| <SotirisSotiropoulos> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 18:48) I think Darryl left.. |
| <Dassa> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 18:49) No, I'm still here, just split between a few different activities. |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 18:49) Forget the the moment the IDNH. *Any* public list geared to developing an individual's constituency will be sabotaged by the same two who interfere with all the other lists. Regulars know who they are. Its a legitimate concern. |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 18:49) (that's forget for the moment) |
| <SotirisSotiropoulos> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 18:50) yes Judith, what you say has some merit. how do we effectively defeat such tactics? |
| <SotirisSotiropoulos> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 18:50) limiting posts perhaps? |
| <KendallDawson> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 18:50) 3 strikes - you're out |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 18:50) Its as though ICANN says you have to pass a swimming test, and these people keep draining the pool. |
| <Dassa> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 18:50) A good set of list rules and valid moderation deals with such issues. |
| <SotirisSotiropoulos> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 18:51) Ben: I must say, the webcast quality is excellent so far. I am on a 56k connection and I have not had a single problem to this point! Good job so far. |
| <DavidWilkins> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 18:52) effective Moderation will stop this, same happens in Chat space, and they tire quickly |
| <Dassa> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 18:52) Yes, I'm on a similar connection and this has been the best system I've used so far with regards to these Melbourne meetings. |
| <DavidWilkins> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 18:52) Ben: I must concur being on limited bandwidth.. not a drop out.. Well Done |
| <KendallDawson> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 18:52) "on it's own motion" |
| <BenEdelman> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 18:52) Thanks for the kind words. We worked hard to get excellent server placement, with low latency and low packet loss to key peering points. |
| <MarciaLynn> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 18:53) i am having more probs on a cable connection than i did on a 56k in november :-( |
| <KendallDawson> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 18:53) so my question on the time-schedule still stands. |
| <MarcSchneiders> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 18:53) The video and sound is much, much better than in November. |
| <DavidWilkins> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 18:54) Looks so Kendall.. seems subject to the good graces of the Board |
| <MarciaLynn> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 18:55) lol - could be on my end, left my firewall on highest protection |
| <LeahG-dotBIZTLD> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 18:55) This is gonna be interesting |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 18:55) I just notice Johnson's comment ... "if it determines that such creation would serve the interests of ICANN". Back to my original point: politics. |
| <MarciaLynn> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 18:55) yep |
| <LeahG-dotBIZTLD> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 18:57) What I find interesting is that the people who will USE the multi-linguals find the test bed unuseable. |
| <LeahG-dotBIZTLD> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 18:57) They are developing their own |
| <DavidWilkins> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 18:57) Damm the BC was supposed to have a comment ready on the V$ agreement! |
| <SotirisSotiropoulos> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 18:57) yes, quite interesting |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 19:00) No one wants to reveal their position publicly, I think, because its more about negotiation/what's in it for me, than good public policy. |
| <DavidWilkins> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 19:01) Yeah more about $$ that potentialy go across to ICANN as the tlds get handed over |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 19:02) ICANN and VeriSign have had months, being in talks since the summer, to hammer out and fine tune their "what's in its for me |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 19:03) Everyone else needs catch-up time. |
| <DavidWilkins> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 19:05) I was surprised the number of people at the BC meeting whom hadnt read the announcment.. maybe just the time getting here.. |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 19:07) Who's speaking? |
| <anon95> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 19:07) REGISTER.COM |
| <MarciaLynn> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 19:07) register.com |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 19:08) thank you thank you. :-) |
| <LeahG-dotBIZTLD> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 19:09) and for your bottom line??? |
| <SotirisSotiropoulos> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 19:10) WHOIS info: There are many people with privacy concerns regarding the selling of WHOIS data by NSI/VeriSign to commercial entities. Is there any official DNSO position as regards the private information being sold by NSI? |
| <LeahG-dotBIZTLD> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 19:13) why not post the question? |
| <SotirisSotiropoulos> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 19:13) I did |
| <SotirisSotiropoulos> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 19:13) selective question/comment process... |
| <SotirisSotiropoulos> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 19:14) this one didn't seem to be "approved". |
| <KendallDawson> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 19:14) This problem was discussed on the GA list and warrants further discussion |
| <DavidWilkins> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 19:14) Prolly off topic int he context of the agreement |
| <SotirisSotiropoulos> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 19:14) Ben: are you selecting the questions? |
| <DavidWilkins> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 19:14) Better raised in the NC meeting |
| <KendallDawson> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 19:15) what time is it in Melbourne Ben? |
| <DavidWilkins> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 19:15) 11:20am |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 19:15) One hour break? |
| <MarciaLynn> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 19:15) thought he said 2 pm it continues? |
| <KendallDawson> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 19:16) yes |
| <MarciaLynn> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 19:16) so 2 hours & 40 minutes break? |
| <DavidWilkins> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 19:16) See you all back here later |
| <KendallDawson> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 19:16) it's good to be the NC |
| <SotirisSotiropoulos> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 19:16) absolutely |
| <MarcSchneiders> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 19:17) quit |
| <jesswest> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 20:06) hi tom |
| <jesswest> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 20:06) everyone |
| <Dassa> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 20:10) Hello Jessica |
| <jesswest> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 20:10) hi dassa |
| <jesswest> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 20:10) was wondering if anyone was around |
| <jesswest> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 20:10) are you at the meeting ? |
| <Dassa> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 20:10) Couldn't make it so am participating remotely |
| <jesswest> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 20:11) Hope it is better than the last one |
| <Dassa> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 20:12) So far most ppl think the facilities have been better. Personally found todays session the best so far with regards to quality and dropouts. |
| <jesswest> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 20:13) Was much better technically ... question is whether anything will be accomplished |
| <jesswest> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 20:14) Would be nice if Patrick would get online and keep us posted too |
| <jesswest> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 20:19) it's called silence |
| <urgen> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 20:19) (you can edit that out) ;-) |
| <urgen> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 20:19) oh, on the windows media channel I hear some kind of pulse |
| <jesswest> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 20:20) hi gene |
| <urgen> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 20:20) ben around? |
| <GeneMarsh> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 20:20) howdy all - Hi Ben! |
| <GeneMarsh> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 20:21) John Frangie, how the heck are you |
| <jesswest> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 20:22) Missed the first part ... any discussions on the new TLD's yet ? |
| <jesswest> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 20:22) or expected ? |
| <Dassa> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 20:22) On the agenda for after 2:00pm |
| <jesswest> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 20:23) about 10 our time then |
| <jesswest> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 20:24) I need to get a couple of my guys to sit in then |
| <urgen> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 20:25) wow.. allyourbase looks familiar |
| <jesswest> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 20:25) heck of a name |
| <jesswest> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 20:25) most are familiar |
| <urgen> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 20:25) saw it on EFneXt Phorum |
| <jesswest> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 20:26) Personally I think IRC chats might be good once a week for a couple of groups |
| <AllYourBaseAreBelongToUs> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 20:26) How are you gentlemen and ladies !! |
| <jesswest> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 20:28) Hi Sotiris |
| <SotirisSotiropoulos> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 20:28) hey Jess! |
| <SotirisSotiropoulos> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 20:28) good to see ya |
| <Dassa> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 20:28) I agree Jess, some real time communication does go a long way to bring about understanding. |
| <jesswest> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 20:28) you too ! |
| <GeneMarsh> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 20:28) does anyone know if froomkin is in Melborune? |
| <jesswest> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 20:29) No .. he is attending remote I think |
| <SotirisSotiropoulos> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 20:29) I believe he is... but i'm not sure |
| <Dassa> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 20:29) I gather MF couldn't get there. |
| <jesswest> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 20:29) he was registered on the remote list |
| <SotirisSotiropoulos> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 20:29) ah |
| <jesswest> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 20:30) You can see who is registered there and who is remote ... accessed from tehir main page |
| <Dassa> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 20:30) He participated remotely in the ncdnhc session |
| <SotirisSotiropoulos> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 20:30) I think Joop did a fine job of bringing certain issues to the forefront, as relates to the IDNO and the possiblity for an IDNH constituency |
| <GeneMarsh> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 20:30) can someone *privately* get his phone # to me? |
| <AllYourBaseAreBelongToUs> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 20:30) What time is it start? I see bald man and computer. |
| <SotirisSotiropoulos> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 20:30) now if we can only get the idno functioning again |
| <jesswest> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 20:30) Was the bald one Joop ? |
| <SotirisSotiropoulos> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 20:30) yes |
| <jesswest> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 20:30) I came in late and no names |
| <jesswest> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 20:31) he did a good job |
| <AllYourBaseAreBelongToUs> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 20:31) Bald man on RealVision screen is Joop? |
| <jesswest> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 20:31) I kinda suspected that was him |
| <SotirisSotiropoulos> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 20:31) As I am on the polling committee, I'm thinking that as soon as the Meeting is over, we've got our work cut out for us to get things rolling. |
| <jesswest> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 20:32) good luck |
| <SotirisSotiropoulos> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 20:32) It is imperative that we focus on revitalizing the IDNO and presenting an organized and coherent presence at the next Meeting. |
| <AllYourBaseAreBelongToUs> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 20:32) Individuals are good thing. |
| <SotirisSotiropoulos> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 20:32) we're going to need your help, Jess. As well as every other member. |
| <SotirisSotiropoulos> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 20:34) I'm thinking we're going to have to institute some new rules for the mail list... specifically, a limit to messages posted by individuals, and the introduction of a list moderator... |
| <SotirisSotiropoulos> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 20:34) although the latter is more preferable than the former imho |
| <jesswest> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 20:35) need something .. too many chiefs and not enuf indians |
| <MmmCow> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 20:35) when does the meeting start up? |
| <Dassa> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 20:35) The List Chair is the moderator. There does need to be better list rules however. I do not agree with limiting posts personally. |
| <SotirisSotiropoulos> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 20:35) no kidding |
| <jesswest> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 20:36) another 2-3 hours I think |
| <Dassa> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 20:36) 82 minutes |
| <SotirisSotiropoulos> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 20:36) Dassa: I don't think the limiting of posts is desirable... but I'm just putting forth ideas... |
| <jesswest> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 20:36) 2pm there would be 10 here I think |
| <AllYourBaseAreBelongToUs> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 20:36) Remember - you are all here... |
| <AllYourBaseAreBelongToUs> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 20:36) For great justice. |
| <SotirisSotiropoulos> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 20:36) where's here jess? |
| <jesswest> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 20:37) USA - Texas |
| <MmmCow> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 20:37) DNSO Names Council (13:30 - 17:00) |
| <MmmCow> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 20:37) wouldn't that be in 50 minutes? |
| <SotirisSotiropoulos> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 20:37) ah, so we've got some time yet. |
| <SotirisSotiropoulos> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 20:37) are there any questions we should attempt to push through all together for the NC? |
| <jesswest> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 20:37) They just broke for lunch - unless I was on deferred time thru #scribe |
| <Dassa> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 20:37) Seems to be some confusion on the start time. |
| <SotirisSotiropoulos> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 20:38) I think it would be good if we could coordinate on some questions. |
| <jesswest> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 20:38) They didn't seem to know what time exactly .. one said 2 and another said 1:30 |
| <AllYourBaseAreBelongToUs> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 20:38) ICANN not use time server? |
| <AllYourBaseAreBelongToUs> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 20:38) Strange beings in ICANN |
| <AllYourBaseAreBelongToUs> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 20:38) You are here... |
| <AllYourBaseAreBelongToUs> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 20:38) For great justice. |
| <SotirisSotiropoulos> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 20:38) Perhaps Ben can let us know what time it restarts? |
| <SotirisSotiropoulos> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 20:39) or Rebecca? |
| <jesswest> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 20:39) As a corp they would be down the drain based on mismanagement ! lol |
| <SotirisSotiropoulos> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 20:39) ha |
| <jesswest> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 20:40) I setup the #icann-other channel if you wanna join ... this one is official and logged |
| <urgen> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 20:42) .. |
| <LeahG-dotBIZTLD> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 20:54) Dassa, have been away from the 'puter, but I agree with you that limitng posts is not a good idea. List moderation is okay if it is uniform |
| <SotirisSotiropoulos> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 20:55) Yes, i think moderation is probably the best way to go |
| <Dassa> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 20:58) Strong list rules and moderation, those are mechanisms I agree with. |
| <Dassa> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 20:58) Be away for 20 minutes or so. Back shortly |
| <SotirisSotiropoulos> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 20:58) ibid |
| <GeneMarsh> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 21:10) leah, still there? |
| <Dassa> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 21:16) Back |
| <MarciaLynn> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 21:17) is it starting back in 10 minutes or 40? anybody know? |
| <Dassa> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 21:17) Suspect 40 |
| <MarciaLynn> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 21:17) ty dassa :-) |
| <jesswest> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 21:17) not sure - suspect the latter |
| <MarciaLynn> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 21:17) ty... bb in a bit |
| <jesswest> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 21:21) Joe - you here ? |
| <anon131> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 21:23) Anything interesting going on> |
| <Dassa> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 21:23) Lunch :) |
| <SotirisSotiropoulos> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 21:26) Jess, sorry bout that, my machine did the funky chicken and crashed on me... |
| <jesswest> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 21:27) :) lost a HD last week |
| <jesswest> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 21:27) irc good at the dropping bit |
| <SotirisSotiropoulos> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 21:27) please open the private chat again |
| <jesswest> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 21:28) just type /join #icann-other |
| <SotirisSotiropoulos> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 21:28) oh |
| <jesswest> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 21:28) k |
| <baptista_> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 21:29) i'm here now |
| <jesswest> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 21:30) Joe .. one of our programmers may want to ask you for some help in setting up the dns servers |
| <baptista_> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 21:31) ok |
| <baptista_> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 21:31) which tlds? |
| <jesswest> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 21:31) we haven't decided on all of them yet |
| <jesswest> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 21:31) i'm checking everything now to see what is available |
| <jesswest> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 21:32) may be quite a few .. not sure how experienced he is on the tech stuff tho |
| <baptista_> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 21:33) ok - the tld finder should be available at - http://www.pccf.net/cgi-bin/root-servers/whereis-tld - until this past friday all my networks were routed to spain via finland - poor dears are finally in california |
| <jesswest> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 21:33) k |
| <jesswest> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 21:33) it's up and working now ? |
| <BenEdelman> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 21:36) Meeting will resume in about 15 more minutes. |
| <BenEdelman> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 21:36) Perhaps twenty. |
| <SotirisSotiropoulos> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 21:36) thanks Ben |
| <Dassa> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 21:43) What is showing on the two screens, I can't make it out. |
| <SotirisSotiropoulos> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 21:43) i can't make it out either |
| <LeahG-dotBIZTLD> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 21:44) bad angle |
| <urgen> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 21:45) nice half-frames.. |
| <urgen> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 21:48) I'll take CyberPhilosophy for 300 Alex |
| <Dassa> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 21:48) Wonder who picked out the music :) |
| <jesswest> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 21:49) Bet he's under 25 :) |
| <SotirisSotiropoulos> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 21:49) we own cyberphilosophy.com |
| <urgen> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 21:49) hehehe |
| <SotirisSotiropoulos> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 21:50) check it out. |
| <MarciaLynn> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 21:50) CyberIdiots.com <<< |
| <quasar-orsc> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 21:50) he really does ;) |
| <SotirisSotiropoulos> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 21:50) yup |
| <jesswest> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 21:51) hi bruce |
| <SotirisSotiropoulos> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 21:51) I'm writing the text for it. |
| <SotirisSotiropoulos> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 21:51) book + website |
| <urgen> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 21:51) got any draft stuff to peruse? |
| <SotirisSotiropoulos> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 21:52) nothing I'm ready to shop around just yet... but if you're interested, my email is sotiris@hermesnetwork.com |
| <jesswest> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 21:53) pericles.com would be a neat site .. probably gone now tho |
| <SotirisSotiropoulos> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 21:53) you can get a hold of me in a month or so. |
| <SotirisSotiropoulos> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 21:53) names are good! |
| <BenEdelman> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 21:53) Folks, meeting will begin in about five more minutes. |
| <MarciaLynn> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 21:54) ty ben :-) |
| <SotirisSotiropoulos> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 21:54) excellent |
| <Dassa> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 21:54) Waiting with baited breath Ben :) |
| <SotirisSotiropoulos> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 21:55) Darryl, are you still committed to the IDNO? |
| <urgen> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 21:55) sent |
| <SotirisSotiropoulos> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 21:55) ok |
| <Dassa> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 21:56) Sotiis: I'm still a member and participating although I have held back to allow others to move forward. |
| <SotirisSotiropoulos> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 21:56) urgen: I'll be in touch Mark. No, no Bateson... yet. |
| <urgen> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 21:56) :-) |
| <urgen> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 21:57) someday there will be nice 300K streams... |
| <SotirisSotiropoulos> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 21:57) Darryl: I'm glad to hear it... I consider your posts to be quite lucid... even though i may not always agree, i still respect what you have to say (but i do often agree with you as well!) |
| <Dassa> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 21:58) Be hard for us all to agree all the time. That is what makes such groups work, the ability to disagree and move on. |
| <SotirisSotiropoulos> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 21:58) I think the IDNO is in need of a revitalization, and we're going to need everyone's input. |
| <SotirisSotiropoulos> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 21:58) yes, you're right. |
| <SotirisSotiropoulos> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 21:59) 300k streams... ahh... where is the promise of the multicast backbone? still a distant dream? |
| <urgen> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:00) NASA TV is 300K |
| <urgen> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:00) those helmet cams are outstanding |
| <SotirisSotiropoulos> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:01) Canada has a national mbone functioning... |
| <Dassa> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:01) I'll be happy when I can get better than dialup at a price that doesn't mean I have to mortgage my house :) |
| <SotirisSotiropoulos> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:01) lol |
| <SotirisSotiropoulos> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:02) an mbone set up in Canada will run you around $10,000 (just for the basics) |
| <Dassa> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:02) We are on :) |
| <MM> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:04) More like representing his personal interest |
| <TroyBlackwell> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:07) we want action now, screw the two year plan |
| <KendallDawson> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:08) not to mention NSI and VeriSign |
| <MM> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:08) More like representing Verisign only |
| <MM> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:08) Thanx verising for paying form everything |
| <LeahG-dotBIZTLD> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:09) gag me with a spoon |
| <MM> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:09) Evryone here please pardon me but I hold no respect for these people at all, that is all! |
| <SotirisSotiropoulos> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:09) no kidding! |
| <LeahG-dotBIZTLD> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:10) hahahahaha SWIPO TOO |
| <jesswest> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:10) Burp! |
| <jesswest> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:11) for the billions they pocketed, they should ahve flown everyone to Melbourn ! |
| <SotirisSotiropoulos> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:11) LOL |
| <MM> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:11) Am I to understand that Stubbs is no longer the Chairman of the NC if so how wonderful for him he hooks himself and his friends up and moves on |
| <SotirisSotiropoulos> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:11) the "robber-barons"! |
| <TroyBlackwell> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:11) i've seen better plans written up on placemats at burger king |
| <MM> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:11) lol |
| <jesswest> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:12) Understatement Sotiris ...They took the NSOL stock to 247 - then sold and broke it |
| <LeahG-dotBIZTLD> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:12) You watch, it will be impossible to register a name, region, locality... |
| <MM> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:12) I have never seen such a waste of time and space. These people are so full of themselves |
| <jesswest> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:12) I think they will run into more problems with the .org mess |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:13) Shoot, what's the difference between an interim committee and a board of directors? |
| <MM> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:13) .org is their downfall since they now started a fight with the planet |
| <quasar-orsc> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:13) after all the encouragement people were given to register their domains in "all three" |
| <SotirisSotiropoulos> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:14) WIPO MUST BE STOPPED!!!! |
| <jesswest> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:14) WIPO2 .. one is too many ! |
| <TroyBlackwell> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:14) anyone you can blindfold with dental floss should not be on the board making decisions reguarding vision for icann |
| <SotirisSotiropoulos> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:15) hey Troy... not a relevant or appreciated comment! |
| <TroyBlackwell> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:15) ouch |
| <TroyBlackwell> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:15) you running this room? |
| <SotirisSotiropoulos> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:16) no, but that sounded like racism to me. |
| <TroyBlackwell> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:16) boooo |
| <SotirisSotiropoulos> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:16) damn right booo! |
| <MarciaLynn> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:16) troy? |
| <MM> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:17) This organization gives bureaucracy more meaning |
| <KendallDawson> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:17) that member is VeriSign huh Roger? |
| <SotirisSotiropoulos> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:17) yeah |
| <LeahG-dotBIZTLD> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:17) sad day for the Internet |
| <MM> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:17) He isn't racist he hates everyone the same |
| <TroyBlackwell> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:17) not a racist !! |
| <MarciaLynn> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:18) where are you troy? |
| <MarciaLynn> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:18) what part of the world i mean? |
| <TroyBlackwell> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:18) is this a pro icann room? |
| <RebeccaNesson> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:18) The DNSO NC Business Plan being discussed is posted on the DNSO website at <http://www.dnso.org/dnso/notes/2001-02.NCbusinessplan.html> and is linked off of the agenda for this meeting. |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:18) MM, not bureaucracy. Pageantry. From Day 1. |
| <KendallDawson> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:18) not likely Troy |
| <urgen> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:18) sure its a pro ICANN room |
| <SotirisSotiropoulos> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:19) not really a pro-ICANN room, but not a group of racists either... |
| <urgen> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:19) but... it sure would be nice if it *could* be a pro ICANN room |
| <MM> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:19) So True, They really think they are needed are welcome it is sad |
| <MM> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:19) new tlds for insiders how nice |
| <TroyBlackwell> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:19) marcia, hong kong |
| <MarciaLynn> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:20) ahh.k .. there is a troy blackwell in my town as well |
| <MM> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:20) Gotta protect that retirement |
| <KendallDawson> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:20) but, did they ever ask the "net users" ? |
| <SotirisSotiropoulos> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:20) when do they ever? |
| <urgen> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:20) that loop doesn't exist yet |
| <urgen> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:20) we are inventing it now |
| <urgen> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:20) here |
| <MM> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:21) There view of consensus and true consensus are quite different |
| <LeahG-dotBIZTLD> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:21) hehe, I could tell them what to do with tlds, :) |
| <MarciaLynn> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:21) lol leah |
| <MM> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:21) I kinda hope they all burn in hell but hey that's me |
| <jesswest> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:21) porno not allowed in here Leah ! :) |
| <SotirisSotiropoulos> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:21) ha |
| <MM> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:22) Doesn't all this just sound like Charlie Brown talking |
| <TroyBlackwell> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:22) bunch of bs blowhards |
| <SotirisSotiropoulos> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:22) probably not until 2002! |
| <LeahG-dotBIZTLD> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:22) I wasn't thinking that way, Jess :) |
| <SotirisSotiropoulos> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:22) sure sure |
| <quasar-orsc> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:22) Leah meant put them in a root zone ;) |
| <jesswest> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:22) I was |
| <SotirisSotiropoulos> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:23) where the sun don't shine... |
| <LeahG-dotBIZTLD> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:23) There are 500o TLDs to choose from |
| <LeahG-dotBIZTLD> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:23) pick a few |
| <SotirisSotiropoulos> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:23) that would be too easy |
| <MM> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:23) We must only pick tlds for our special friends who can't compete without our help! |
| <MM> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:23) Stubbs I despise you! |
| <SotirisSotiropoulos> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:23) he would!!! ken stubbs! |
| <TroyBlackwell> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:23) lol |
| <MM> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:23) He should be in Jail |
| <KendallDawson> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:23) why pick a few? put them all in there! |
| <LeahG-dotBIZTLD> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:24) not only too easy, but not in the interests of the select bull dozing, WIPO kissing, multinationals who paid for ICANN |
| <SotirisSotiropoulos> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:24) surprise surprise |
| <MM> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:24) what's he picking at |
| <SotirisSotiropoulos> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:24) his triple chin |
| <SotirisSotiropoulos> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:24) too much sauce |
| <KendallDawson> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:25) how does he represent gTLDs ?!?! |
| <SotirisSotiropoulos> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:25) new gTLDs |
| <SotirisSotiropoulos> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:25) no kidding! |
| <KendallDawson> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:25) More like... Roger Cochetti. large monopolies. |
| <SotirisSotiropoulos> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:26) they won't be rolling out the new gTLDs until 2002... watch. |
| <MM> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:26) Representatives huh me and the rest of the world never voted for you idiots |
| <MM> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:26) Damm dDICKtatorship |
| <KendallDawson> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:27) My favorite quote from Louis Touton in Nov. 2000: "you are here to observe not to participate!" |
| <SotirisSotiropoulos> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:27) the WIPO thieves will want to restrict 3/4 of the possible names... |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:27) ie, let's hold off on any more competition for as long as possible. yada yada yada |
| <MarciaLynn> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:27) gosh kendall there were sooo many good ones to pick from too |
| <jesswest> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:27) Can they actually stop the independent tld's like leah's ? |
| <SotirisSotiropoulos> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:27) no |
| <MM> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:28) God willing I look to the day when all these people are mumbling together in a room and they don't control anything anymore |
| <KendallDawson> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:28) This will just throw more gasoline on the fire for companies like New.Net and that new German company offering alternative TLDs |
| <jesswest> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:28) I can't see any legal way for them to interfer - other than maybe selecting those same tlds |
| <jesswest> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:28) There's a lot more than those two Kendall |
| <SotirisSotiropoulos> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:28) are they seeing this list in the room? |
| <MM> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:28) Conflict of Interests now your talking |
| <MM> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:28) Maybe Mr Stubbs wants to speak |
| <KendallDawson> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:28) I know... but they are getting a lot of media attention lately |
| <jesswest> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:28) not in the meeting ... will be logged tho |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:28) who is DeBlanc? |
| <TroyBlackwell> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:29) this whole thing is based on a conflict |
| <SotirisSotiropoulos> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:29) deBlanc...ccTLDs |
| <MM> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:29) sure you don't want ssuccess to your precious Verisign |
| <jesswest> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:29) with AT&T I think |
| <MM> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:29) How do these people look themselves in the mirror? |
| <MM> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:29) B right Back |
| <SotirisSotiropoulos> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:29) with welder's goggles |
| <Gabriel> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:30) Anyone here knows a certain "when" of the release of the new MultiLingual domains of VeriSign? |
| <SotirisSotiropoulos> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:30) no |
| <MM> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:30) One thing what is the totla sum of all the idiots that make up ICANN and their little crooked supporters |
| <KendallDawson> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:30) no.. but their system is lame and will never work well. |
| <SotirisSotiropoulos> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:30) "review in Stockholm"!!!! |
| <Gabriel> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:31) I think it's going to be when they launch the new gTDL's........ |
| <SotirisSotiropoulos> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:31) hahaha |
| <KendallDawson> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:31) ah.. the imfamous and previously unknown "whois committe" |
| <jesswest> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:31) Delay it publicly - more time to work behind the scene to protect their arses |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:31) YJ's right, TLD people may not "evaluate their own success" but could drag out determining how long a time period it would take to measure the "proof of concept". |
| <MM> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:31) All these idiots to run 13 computers >> |
| <quasar-orsc> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:31) LOL MM |
| <Gabriel> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:31) or 13 computers running the idiots.... |
| <SotirisSotiropoulos> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:32) these idiots don't even run the 13 computers |
| <MM> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:32) They will drag it on for an eternity would we expect anything less |
| <KendallDawson> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:32) they are making themselves obsolete. Give them some rope and let them go! |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:32) Anyone here there? YJ's comment, in context, needs to be supported. |
| <SotirisSotiropoulos> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:32) yes |
| <MM> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:32) They need to be Napsterized |
| <SotirisSotiropoulos> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:32) who's there? |
| <MarciaLynn> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:32) lol |
| <SotirisSotiropoulos> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:32) they will be. |
| <SotirisSotiropoulos> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:33) Theresa Swineheart... aptly named. |
| <MM> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:33) Good one |
| <Gabriel> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:33) when is going to be stockholm? |
| <MM> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:33) I was much cooler in previous meetins not any more they can kiss my ...... thought I was going to do it Lol |
| <KendallDawson> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:34) and then they will ignore the comments |
| <MM> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:34) like they don't already lol |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:34) I cannot believe he of all people is saying that. Chutzpah doesn't come close ... |
| <MM> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:34) Is that Baldy Touton? |
| <LeahG-dotBIZTLD> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:34) Gabriel - July |
| <Gabriel> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:34) cool |
| <TroyBlackwell> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:34) sususuedio |
| <KendallDawson> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:35) Louis "you are here to observe not to participate" Touton |
| <TroyBlackwell> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:35) lol |
| <MarciaLynn> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:35) he turns my stomach |
| <MM> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:35) Just to note I despise him more than stubbs |
| <MarciaLynn> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:35) i do also MM |
| <Gabriel> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:35) when is going to be accepted the new members of the at large...? (this is a tough one) |
| <quasar-orsc> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:35) but he's smiling... |
| <MM> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:35) He lloks like one of those child molesters you read about |
| <MarciaLynn> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:35) he's always smirking |
| <TroyBlackwell> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:35) look at him mugging for the camera |
| <KendallDawson> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:36) The amazing thing is that him and Joe Sims aren't even members of the Board! |
| <MarciaLynn> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:36) yep |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:36) Touton brings new meaning to the word "smug". |
| <Gabriel> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:36) and the elected members????????? |
| <MM> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:36) Tyhat's what gets me about the board meeting he pratically controlled it |
| <MarciaLynn> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:36) he did |
| <MM> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:36) I hope he dies |
| <KendallDawson> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:36) lots of power...but not even board members |
| <Gabriel> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:36) they must be here!!! |
| <MM> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:36) All goes by to the IVY leauge controlling the world |
| <KendallDawson> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:37) They work for JRDP not ICANN |
| <TroyBlackwell> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:37) nobody's gonna die mm |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:37) Ken, repeat after me: this is all just pageantry while staff runs the show ... this is all just pageantry while staff runs the show ... |
| <MM> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:37) why that would be coooooll |
| <TroyBlackwell> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:37) tough room |
| <jesswest> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:37) who;'s this baldheaded guy ? |
| <KendallDawson> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:37) I know Judith... I've watched it for 2 years. It bothers me though maybe I have a conscience. |
| <LeahG-dotBIZTLD> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:39) No one has submitted any comments or questions |
| <Gabriel> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:39) not me! |
| <quasar-orsc> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:39) hasn't been enough to comment on...seems they are waiting for reports to be completed on most everything. |
| <MarciaLynn> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:40) x |
| <SotirisSotiropoulos> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:40) i've lost all sound |
| <jesswest> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:40) you haven't missed anything ! |
| <SotirisSotiropoulos> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:41) no kidding! be back shortly... |
| <jesswest> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:41) :) |
| <Gabriel> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:41) try to listen with the audio from the MS media, I have the same situation! |
| <jesswest> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:41) some brilliant statements there :) |
| <KendallDawson> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:41) Why hasn't the proposed Verisign contract revision been formally submitted to the DNSO? |
| <SotirisSotiropoulos> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:42) Touton... what a prick! |
| <KendallDawson> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:42) Yes! |
| <BenEdelman> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:42) Sound working for everyone else? Looks good here. |
| <SotirisSotiropoulos> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:42) still no sound |
| <jesswest> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:42) mine is good |
| <Gabriel> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:42) Why Verisign launch a thing that doesnt work?!!!! (ML domains) |
| <KendallDawson> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:42) yes ben it's working for me... on 56 K main REal audio stream |
| <jesswest> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:42) mine is excellent .. no complaints Ben |
| <BenEdelman> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:43) Great. |
| <SotirisSotiropoulos> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:43) still nothing for me |
| <KendallDawson> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:43) the quality this time seems much better overall than the LA meeting |
| <TroyBlackwell> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:43) i agree |
| <jesswest> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:43) and I'm thru AOL ... :) |
| <KendallDawson> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:43) Try restarting your stream Sotiris |
| <quasar-orsc> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:43) these get better each time :) |
| <Dassa> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:43) Working well here. |
| <SotirisSotiropoulos> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:44) ok restart worked. yeah this is definitely better than Yokohama |
| <SotirisSotiropoulos> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:44) thanks kendall |
| <jesswest> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:45) How to shut up YJ |
| <TroyBlackwell> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:45) anyone know if new.net is on the agenda? |
| <Gabriel> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:45) whats about Geneve? This "streaming" audio sucks.... |
| <MM> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:46) lol |
| <TroyBlackwell> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:47) harmony's went out with the mama's and the papas |
| <MM> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:47) What a sad example for the world 19 idiots and their insiders represntating the medium for freedom in the world |
| <MM> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:48) Funding call it what it is Payoffs |
| <TroyBlackwell> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:48) right |
| <SotirisSotiropoulos> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:48) Jon Postel R.I.P. none of these idiots would even be here if they had not knocked him off! |
| <MM> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:48) Wow I am glad someone said that I have always thought thAT WAS A REAL POSSIBILITY |
| <SotirisSotiropoulos> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:48) he died on an operating table... |
| <baptista_> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:49) you think postel was killed by his friends :) |
| <MM> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:49) a young man |
| <SotirisSotiropoulos> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:49) yeah right. |
| <KendallDawson> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:49) CCtlds aren't going along with this foolishness |
| <MM> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:49) Not his friends but those who seen him as an obstacle |
| <SotirisSotiropoulos> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:49) just when they were going about the privatization of TLDs |
| <urgen> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:49) or.. not J.Postel as much as what he represents that is dying |
| <MM> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:49) Billions baby remember that |
| <SotirisSotiropoulos> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:49) trillions |
| <urgen> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:49) but its not dying so much as much as it is just so very hard to express |
| <MM> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:50) Man I thought I was the only one who harbored such suspicion |
| <SotirisSotiropoulos> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:51) In Atlas Shrugged by Ayn Rand, the individual "John Galt" survives and wins... in the real world, they murdered Jon postel, after he created the wheel for them... |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:51) Harmonization = trademark gang bang. |
| <KendallDawson> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:51) LOL |
| <Gabriel> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:51) yeap, all for those dollars.com......... |
| <SotirisSotiropoulos> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:51) no, trademark circle-jerk |
| <MM> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:51) NSI+SAIC+ CIA |
| <MM> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:51) =CIA excuse me |
| <jesswest> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:51) you missed a few MM |
| <KendallDawson> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:51) RACE -- the Row-based ASCII-Compatible Encoding standard, a kludge that doesn't work well. |
| <jesswest> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:51) FBI and drug group too |
| <SotirisSotiropoulos> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:52) just look at these intellectual midgets!!! what a joke. |
| <TroyBlackwell> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:52) =MIA |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:52) SS, were it only a circle jerk, but alas, there's the raped domain name damsel ... |
| <MM> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:52) And yes the real world they KILL all the time |
| <MM> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:52) just pawn |
| <KendallDawson> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:52) only supports certain languages and all but eliminates the rest of the world |
| <KendallDawson> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:53) the only reason that they want RACE is that it works on ASCII and is cheaper than restructuring the DNS in a way that would actually work. |
| <urgen> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:53) multiple considerable |
| <TroyBlackwell> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:54) i think touten is looking for his basket already! |
| <MmmCow> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:54) lol |
| <SotirisSotiropoulos> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:55) that they knocked off Jon Postel is more than patently obvious to everybody who knows anything about the history of these yoyos... how we're going to fight them is not so clear. |
| <MM> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:55) Mr. Babtista although I would be considered a latecomer to the net i have done a considerable amount of homework but more importantly to me I believe in my heart that this did indeed happen to Jon Postel |
| <MM> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:56) Soory mispelling Baptista |
| <MM> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:56) Basket case |
| <KendallDawson> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:56) ICANN solution to everything: let's wait and discuss it during the next meeting |
| <MM> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:56) The great Procrastionators |
| <MM> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:57) And whatever they say about new.net They are making what they are doing work with the help of the "internet community" isn't it amazaing |
| <KendallDawson> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:57) how about REAL multilingual domain names and not some ASCII hack that works for a few languages? |
| <MM> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:58) Thesepeople will review until hell freezes over |
| <MM> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:58) It's all about protecting the almighty monopoly |
| <TroyBlackwell> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:58) lets have a meeting to find out when the next meetting is! |
| <MM> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:58) lol |
| <SotirisSotiropoulos> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:59) HAHA |
| <KendallDawson> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:59) I bet the buffet an the pool at the hotels are quite nice. |
| <urgen> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:59) in vajrayana, assigned designation is the heart of the philosophy, it has existed for a couple thousand years now... |
| <TroyBlackwell> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:59) in the interim Stubs and tueton have the CON |
| <MarciaLynn> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:59) my scribe's notes stopped ben |
| <DavidWilkins> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:59) Everyone, you can sit and moan about a monopoly or you can work ontructively to try and make change |
| <SotirisSotiropoulos> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:59) .CON |
| <MM> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:59) If this wasn't so sad it would be funny anbd I know it has been said before |
| <SotirisSotiropoulos> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:59) WHY NOT? |
| <urgen> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:59) these are such o l d arguments |
| <TroyBlackwell> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:59) heim |
| <TroyBlackwell> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 22:59) oops com |
| <SotirisSotiropoulos> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 23:00) .CON? |
| <MM> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 23:00) You will have to pry my .org from my dead fingers |
| <SotirisSotiropoulos> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 23:00) WAS IT CONSIDERED? |
| <TroyBlackwell> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 23:00) COM? |
| <SotirisSotiropoulos> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 23:00) no... .con |
| <TroyBlackwell> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 23:00) thanks |
| <MM> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 23:01) Someone needs to get Militant on these Mofos lol |
| <TroyBlackwell> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 23:01) here is your girlfriend again MM |
| <MM> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 23:01) MM isn't that trademarked lol |
| <DavidWilkins> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 23:01) well I dont beleive being millitant will change it.. Few revolutions in the last century went anywhere |
| <MM> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 23:02) yeah but I bet it felt good lol |
| <KendallDawson> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 23:02) what do you propose David? |
| <TroyBlackwell> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 23:02) they will get to that when tueten says they get to it |
| <MM> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 23:02) How can such corruption that is NOTICED survive for so long Amazing |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 23:03) MM ... follow the money. |
| <DavidWilkins> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 23:03) I propose to continue to work through the system, hey I DONT agree with alot happening, this has been the first ICANN meeting I have attened |
| <MM> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 23:03) Maybe it's time to pry into the backgrounds of all of them lol |
| <MM> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 23:04) Oh your first , my virgin friend welcome lol |
| <SouthAmerican> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 23:04) Did I miss much? I was fooling arround with my girl...... :) |
| <DavidWilkins> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 23:04) But I do know from my own experience that change will come from influencing not by trying to bash heads |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 23:04) David, its unfortunately a nonsystem posing as a system. |
| <MarciaLynn> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 23:04) yep, nothing but a glorified collection plate |
| <MM> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 23:04) Tell that to those who have applied such honesty since the begining |
| <KendallDawson> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 23:04) I've been doing these since Fall of 1999 and it is the same people and same red tape and beuracracy |
| <MM> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 23:05) worse now Kendall it just gets worse |
| <SotirisSotiropoulos> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 23:05) I was in Boston in '98... same crap, over and over. |
| <DavidWilkins> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 23:05) True.. I see the current state of ICANN as almost embryonic from the perspective of a corporation, lots of naval gazing and procrastination, but thtere is an opportinuity their to put forward constructive comments |
| <TroyBlackwell> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 23:05) you said it |
| <MM> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 23:05) I pray for the comming of the genius that will Napsterize these people |
| <SotirisSotiropoulos> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 23:05) I'm working on it |
| <KendallDawson> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 23:06) I agree David... I am a member of quite a few mailing lists and discussions. |
| <TroyBlackwell> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 23:06) the names may change but the game remains the same |
| <SouthAmerican> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 23:06) here is a lot of money.com......... thats impossible....... |
| <MM> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 23:06) I know it is there someone will do it |
| <SouthAmerican> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 23:06) who? |
| <SotirisSotiropoulos> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 23:06) money has no brains... sooner or later, the brain will appear. |
| <MM> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 23:06) david , Comments they have comments for window dressing |
| <KendallDawson> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 23:07) VeriSign would be happy to grease some palms |
| <SouthAmerican> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 23:07) who is this sweet ladie? |
| <MM> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 23:07) look at the monster the Govt created |
| <SotirisSotiropoulos> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 23:07) Swineheart |
| <MM> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 23:07) an unknowing conspiritaor? |
| <SotirisSotiropoulos> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 23:07) aptly named |
| <SouthAmerican> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 23:07) he looks funny! |
| <TroyBlackwell> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 23:07) lol |
| <jesswest> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 23:07) Judy .. that money may end up the thorn in their heel |
| <MM> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 23:08) Oh Stubbs Mr Conflict of Interest himself |
| <SotirisSotiropoulos> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 23:08) STUBBS!!!!!! |
| <MM> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 23:08) he lloks like he has one foot in the grave |
| <SotirisSotiropoulos> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 23:08) I think he's a dwarf |
| <JoannaLane> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 23:08) greetings |
| <SotirisSotiropoulos> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 23:08) hey Joanna! |
| <JoannaLane> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 23:08) sorry I'm late |
| <KendallDawson> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 23:08) hi |
| <MarciaLynn> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 23:08) hey joanna |
| <jesswest> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 23:08) hi joanna |
| <SotirisSotiropoulos> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 23:09) no problem... you haven't missed much. |
| <SotirisSotiropoulos> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 23:09) same crap since Boston '98 |
| <KendallDawson> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 23:09) The usual suspects up to thier usual tricks |
| <JoannaLane> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 23:09) hi jess, kendall, sotiris, marcia et al' |
| <SouthAmerican> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 23:09) Hey people, here our friends are recording all this, later the Carnivore and it's friend, the little Echelon will... well... I hope not...... |
| <MM> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 23:09) One mr comment fromMr Stubbs, who has the best offshore banking! |
| <JoannaLane> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 23:10) not forgetting Ben... |
| <KendallDawson> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 23:10) PowerPoint?! |
| <MM> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 23:10) He would be nice Mr Stubbs if you were reading my comments |
| <jesswest> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 23:10) don't worry S. Amer ... they drive those little black vans |
| <jesswest> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 23:10) he could care less MM |
| <KendallDawson> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 23:10) Yeah as long as they run MS Windows |
| <SouthAmerican> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 23:10) 3.1.... |
| <MM> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 23:10) Echelon can kiss my ^%$ I have had it with these fools lol |
| <jesswest> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 23:10) Is that stubbs in the plaid shirt ? |
| <TroyBlackwell> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 23:11) he is the original bubble boy |
| <MM> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 23:11) he's all dressed up |
| <KendallDawson> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 23:11) yes |
| <SotirisSotiropoulos> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 23:11) I am 32 years old... I've been following this stuff for three years, and I've seen nothing which leads me to beleieve that the future holds any improvements where thse bozos are concerned. |
| <MM> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 23:11) They are worse than communists, at least there you can work in the community here you can't evenget the chance to work |
| <SotirisSotiropoulos> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 23:12) I (and my generation) are the future |
| <jesswest> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 23:12) it won sotiris ... called control .. you can read all about it at fed.org |
| <SotirisSotiropoulos> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 23:12) and these yoyos will have a lot more to deal with than they think! |
| <TroyBlackwell> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 23:12) where is Araubach? |
| <KendallDawson> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 23:12) he is on the Board not the NC |
| <TroyBlackwell> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 23:12) ok |
| <MM> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 23:12) Sotiris it will onlky get worse and what of the future users and our children they will have nothing |
| <SotirisSotiropoulos> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 23:12) they are not worse than communists, they ARE commies! |
| <SotirisSotiropoulos> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 23:12) corporate commies! |
| <SouthAmerican> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 23:13) yeah.... then Will Simith appears and some guy who drinks coffee too! (I think I sow a couple in this reunion) |
| <SotirisSotiropoulos> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 23:13) Corporate America is a cult |
| <MM> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 23:13) Stubbs belongs in Jail!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| <TroyBlackwell> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 23:13) ouch |
| <MM> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 23:14) Judith says Follow the money do they disclose their finances? |
| <jesswest> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 23:14) they sure do MM |
| <TroyBlackwell> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 23:14) only in closed door meetings |
| <MM> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 23:14) only what they want to discloe LoL |
| <jesswest> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 23:14) verisign pocketed apx 63 bil on the nsol deal |
| <MM> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 23:15) the CIA sold it at the peak |
| <MarciaLynn> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 23:15) wow ! |
| <SouthAmerican> (Sat, March 10, 2001 at 23:15) yes, and the money of the unworking multilingual domains..... |
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