ICANN Community Meetings on Security and Stability of the Internet Naming and Address Allocation System
November 14, 2001
Realtime Discussion Log
ICANN Public Meetings

Nickname - Message
<Becca> (Wed, November 14, 2001 at 11:41) The meetings are beginning now.
<JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 14, 2001 at 11:58) Was Lynn looking for a photo-op handshake?
<SotirisSotiropoulos> (Wed, November 14, 2001 at 11:59) Stability and security of the internet: take it out of the hands of shysters, coke-heads, and techies with chips on their shoulders
<SotirisSotiropoulos> (Wed, November 14, 2001 at 12:00) not to mention recycled ex-officials of foreign governments
<JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 14, 2001 at 12:00) Yes, put it in the hands of folks with a beer and a napkin to work on.
<SotirisSotiropoulos> (Wed, November 14, 2001 at 12:00) who will lapse back into obscurity when he dirty work is done
<SotirisSotiropoulos> (Wed, November 14, 2001 at 12:01) actually, I don't drink much... so beer should be replaced with coffee
<SotirisSotiropoulos> (Wed, November 14, 2001 at 12:01) but the napkin is a good idea
<JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 14, 2001 at 12:01) Tell Vint to change your order.
<SotirisSotiropoulos> (Wed, November 14, 2001 at 12:01) h!
<SotirisSotiropoulos> (Wed, November 14, 2001 at 12:01) ha!
<SotirisSotiropoulos> (Wed, November 14, 2001 at 12:06) what does this have to do with ICANN?
<JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 14, 2001 at 12:08) He's supposed to be schooling ICANN - no?
<SotirisSotiropoulos> (Wed, November 14, 2001 at 12:08) for what?
<SotirisSotiropoulos> (Wed, November 14, 2001 at 12:09) why does icann need to be schooled in this?
<Becca> (Wed, November 14, 2001 at 12:09) Bruce Schneier's presentation is available at http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/icann/mdr2001/archive/pres/schneier.html and is linked off the agenda for this meeting.
<JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 14, 2001 at 12:09) another question for Vint
<SotirisSotiropoulos> (Wed, November 14, 2001 at 12:09) this is just another divesion
<SotirisSotiropoulos> (Wed, November 14, 2001 at 12:09) diversion
<SotirisSotiropoulos> (Wed, November 14, 2001 at 12:10) None of this has anything to do directly with ICANN
<SotirisSotiropoulos> (Wed, November 14, 2001 at 12:10) all this is ancillar info not relevant to assigned names and numbers
<SotirisSotiropoulos> (Wed, November 14, 2001 at 12:10) ancillary
<JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 14, 2001 at 12:13) But it is interesting, from an academic POV.
<SotirisSotiropoulos> (Wed, November 14, 2001 at 12:13) yes... but I'm not an academic and this is not an academic forum
<SotirisSotiropoulos> (Wed, November 14, 2001 at 12:14) all of this info is available as NEWS on the web
<JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 14, 2001 at 12:14) No, Sotiris, its a show. So sit back and enjoy the show.
<SotirisSotiropoulos> (Wed, November 14, 2001 at 12:44) I wonder where joe is today?
<SotirisSotiropoulos> (Wed, November 14, 2001 at 12:44) ben?
<SotirisSotiropoulos> (Wed, November 14, 2001 at 12:44) where's joe baptista?
<jandl> (Wed, November 14, 2001 at 12:44) he's probably sleeping
<SotirisSotiropoulos> (Wed, November 14, 2001 at 12:45) too bad
<SotirisSotiropoulos> (Wed, November 14, 2001 at 12:45) he could have given us a lesson on irc security LOL
<SotirisSotiropoulos> (Wed, November 14, 2001 at 12:47) how long is this going to be?
<MarkDyson1> (Wed, November 14, 2001 at 12:48) i'm monitoring for joe today, i understand he had some vocabulary problems here last night, something to do with arrogant assholes?
<Becca> (Wed, November 14, 2001 at 12:48) Sotiris, after this there are parallel sessions on security technology and security policy that are not being webcast. The public forum and board meeting will be webcast all day tomorrow.
<SotirisSotiropoulos> (Wed, November 14, 2001 at 12:49) vocabulary problems! lol
<Becca> (Wed, November 14, 2001 at 12:49) My guess is that this will continue for approximately another half an hour.
<SotirisSotiropoulos> (Wed, November 14, 2001 at 12:49) yes Mark
<SotirisSotiropoulos> (Wed, November 14, 2001 at 12:49) its ok for the ICANN BoD to swear, but not for the rest of us
<MarkDyson1> (Wed, November 14, 2001 at 12:49) :)
<SotirisSotiropoulos> (Wed, November 14, 2001 at 12:50) right ben?
<SotirisSotiropoulos> (Wed, November 14, 2001 at 12:50) Ben is our thought and speech police
<SotirisSotiropoulos> (Wed, November 14, 2001 at 12:51) oh
<SotirisSotiropoulos> (Wed, November 14, 2001 at 12:51) "bullshit" again
<SotirisSotiropoulos> (Wed, November 14, 2001 at 12:51) ben, will you censor the video archives?
<MarkDyson1> (Wed, November 14, 2001 at 12:51) yes i reviewed the logs and did notice Mr. Edlemans attempts at censorship. I understand such actions have added fuel to the good doctors mission.
<Gimble> (Wed, November 14, 2001 at 12:52) what did I miss? (hello everone)
<SotirisSotiropoulos> (Wed, November 14, 2001 at 12:52) very little
<SotirisSotiropoulos> (Wed, November 14, 2001 at 12:52) if anything
<SotirisSotiropoulos> (Wed, November 14, 2001 at 12:52) just bullshit
<SotirisSotiropoulos> (Wed, November 14, 2001 at 12:52) oops
<jandl> (Wed, November 14, 2001 at 12:53) nope. "procedural bullshit" is apparently okay :)
<MarkDyson1> (Wed, November 14, 2001 at 12:53) does the "bullshit" as you have stated so eloquently flow here often?
<SotirisSotiropoulos> (Wed, November 14, 2001 at 12:53) oh, yes.
<SotirisSotiropoulos> (Wed, November 14, 2001 at 12:53) it's standard
<SotirisSotiropoulos> (Wed, November 14, 2001 at 12:53) not an option
<Gimble> (Wed, November 14, 2001 at 12:53) this is where they make it
<SotirisSotiropoulos> (Wed, November 14, 2001 at 12:53) joe is that u?
<MarkDyson1> (Wed, November 14, 2001 at 12:54) i'm his technician in nyc
<SotirisSotiropoulos> (Wed, November 14, 2001 at 12:54) ah
<MarkDyson1> (Wed, November 14, 2001 at 12:54) or so i'll claim for now. i understand baptista makes them nervous here
<SotirisSotiropoulos> (Wed, November 14, 2001 at 12:55) security by "consensus"... what a joke! who's responsible
<MarkDyson1> (Wed, November 14, 2001 at 12:55) the chickens
<SotirisSotiropoulos> (Wed, November 14, 2001 at 12:55) of course
<SotirisSotiropoulos> (Wed, November 14, 2001 at 12:55) or maybe the coke-heads
<SotirisSotiropoulos> (Wed, November 14, 2001 at 12:56) Kendall!
<JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 14, 2001 at 12:56) Jouve is right ... Adobe should have done just that.
<KendallDawson> (Wed, November 14, 2001 at 12:56) hi all!
<JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 14, 2001 at 12:56) Hi Kendall.
<GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 14, 2001 at 12:56) ya j
<jandl> (Wed, November 14, 2001 at 12:57) hi Kendall - good to see you
<KendallDawson> (Wed, November 14, 2001 at 12:57) hi leah, sotiris, judith.... nice to see you all. I'm at work now. did I miss much?
<SotirisSotiropoulos> (Wed, November 14, 2001 at 12:57) only the bullshit kendall
<KendallDawson> (Wed, November 14, 2001 at 12:58) "procedural bullshit" ?
<SotirisSotiropoulos> (Wed, November 14, 2001 at 12:58) of course!
<SotirisSotiropoulos> (Wed, November 14, 2001 at 12:58) but ben is not going to cleanse the archives, because Vint himself used the phrase
<SotirisSotiropoulos> (Wed, November 14, 2001 at 12:58) so it's now official ICANN lingo
<KendallDawson> (Wed, November 14, 2001 at 12:58) how has the show been so far? entertaining? laughable? the usual?
<SotirisSotiropoulos> (Wed, November 14, 2001 at 12:59) pitiable.
<SotirisSotiropoulos> (Wed, November 14, 2001 at 12:59) a cruise director?!?!?!
<SotirisSotiropoulos> (Wed, November 14, 2001 at 12:59) how fitting!
<GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 14, 2001 at 12:59) it was interesting, watch the archive
<SotirisSotiropoulos> (Wed, November 14, 2001 at 12:59) kendall, i want to help with the next cartoon
<KendallDawson> (Wed, November 14, 2001 at 12:59) ok... but, it may be awhile!
<SotirisSotiropoulos> (Wed, November 14, 2001 at 12:59) no problem
<SotirisSotiropoulos> (Wed, November 14, 2001 at 12:59) let me know
<Becca> (Wed, November 14, 2001 at 12:59) The meeting is now shifting to parallel meeting sessions on security. The webcase will resume tomorrow for the Public Forum and ICANN Board Meeting.
<KendallDawson> (Wed, November 14, 2001 at 13:00) that last one took me over a month! I need a break for a bit.
<SotirisSotiropoulos> (Wed, November 14, 2001 at 13:00) ok
<SotirisSotiropoulos> (Wed, November 14, 2001 at 13:00) but do let me know
<SotirisSotiropoulos> (Wed, November 14, 2001 at 13:00) i have some excellent ideas
<KendallDawson> (Wed, November 14, 2001 at 13:00) if you haven't seen it go to http://icannmovie.tripod.com
<SotirisSotiropoulos> (Wed, November 14, 2001 at 13:00) and i know flash
<KendallDawson> (Wed, November 14, 2001 at 13:00) cool
<SotirisSotiropoulos> (Wed, November 14, 2001 at 13:00) :-)
<KendallDawson> (Wed, November 14, 2001 at 13:00) did you ever solve the actionscript / CGI form problem?
<SotirisSotiropoulos> (Wed, November 14, 2001 at 13:00) yes
<KendallDawson> (Wed, November 14, 2001 at 13:00) cool
<SotirisSotiropoulos> (Wed, November 14, 2001 at 13:01) i decided to stay away from it altogether
<SotirisSotiropoulos> (Wed, November 14, 2001 at 13:01) went with a table structure
<SotirisSotiropoulos> (Wed, November 14, 2001 at 13:01) that incorporated flash and html elements
<KendallDawson> (Wed, November 14, 2001 at 13:01) at the rate ICANN is going... we have enough material for about 10,000 more movies.
<SotirisSotiropoulos> (Wed, November 14, 2001 at 13:01) including the form in html
<KendallDawson> (Wed, November 14, 2001 at 13:01) I could be a weekly series
<SotirisSotiropoulos> (Wed, November 14, 2001 at 13:01) ha! no kidding
<SotirisSotiropoulos> (Wed, November 14, 2001 at 13:01) a sopa opera
<JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 14, 2001 at 13:01) it ended?
<SotirisSotiropoulos> (Wed, November 14, 2001 at 13:01) yes
<KendallDawson> (Wed, November 14, 2001 at 13:02) lunch break?
<SotirisSotiropoulos> (Wed, November 14, 2001 at 13:02) security is important
<JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 14, 2001 at 13:02) is that it for today?
<SotirisSotiropoulos> (Wed, November 14, 2001 at 13:02) but not important enopugh for whole day!
<JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 14, 2001 at 13:02) webcast wise?
<SotirisSotiropoulos> (Wed, November 14, 2001 at 13:02) yes
<MarkDyson1> (Wed, November 14, 2001 at 13:02) yes, that's all folks
<KendallDawson> (Wed, November 14, 2001 at 13:02) the cruise director said something about "box lunches"
<SotirisSotiropoulos> (Wed, November 14, 2001 at 13:02) they don't want us to learn very much
<SotirisSotiropoulos> (Wed, November 14, 2001 at 13:02) hahaha
<SotirisSotiropoulos> (Wed, November 14, 2001 at 13:02) Captain Stubing!
<SotirisSotiropoulos> (Wed, November 14, 2001 at 13:02) cruise director on the Love Boat?