| Nickname - Message |
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| <BenjaminEdelman> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 11:47) Good morningm, folks. We'll begin in just a couple more minutes. |
| <MarciaArbott> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 11:50) Good day everyone |
| <JoeHowe> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 11:52) Good Day, Morning, Evening, etc. to all |
| <DotComs> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 11:52) No feed here, we're still waiting, right? |
| <BenjaminEdelman> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 11:53) The feed has been up for 15+ minutes. What link is giving you problems? |
| <JoeHowe> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 11:53) I am recieving a picture |
| <DotComs> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 11:53) let me try to reconnect |
| <DotComs> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 11:53) i have no audio or video |
| <JohnBerryhill> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 11:53) push play again |
| <JoeHowe> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 11:54) I am connected using the primary link |
| <DotComs> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 11:54) ok, i got it now, had to reconnect |
| <KristyMcKee> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 11:55) Hi Judith, Leah, etc... |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 11:55) Hi Kristy :) |
| <KristyMcKee> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 11:56) hey - I wish I could wear a wrinkled t-shirt to host a meeting!! |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 11:56) brb - back in a minute |
| <MarciaArbott> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 12:01) did they just say they aren't going to let TLD applicants make their 3-min. presentations on Wed? |
| <RobJuneau> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 12:01) hi everyone |
| <KevinAllen> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 12:01) ??? Marcia |
| <MarciaArbott> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 12:01) Keven??? |
| <KevinAllen> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 12:02) sounds like they already know what the plan is |
| <MarciaArbott> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 12:02) Did Gaetano just change the Wed. schedule? |
| <KristyMcKee> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 12:02) I heard it in surround sound |
| <MarciaArbott> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 12:02) I'm still downloading RP :( unprepared |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 12:02) Touton said yesterday in court that Commerce makes the decision, not the Board ... ? |
| <MarciaArbott> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 12:03) okay, so they've now changed it to a computer presentation instead of a live presentation? Is that right? |
| <JoeHowe> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 12:04) I believe that a discussion on tld's will be scheduled for today at 11:00 |
| <JoeHowe> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 12:04) Tomorrow live presentations with computer assistance will be allowed |
| <KristyMcKee> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 12:04) thank heavens for the scribe!! |
| <DotComs> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 12:04) lol |
| <MarciaArbott> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 12:04) I agree - my sound card doesn't work |
| <KevinAllen> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 12:11) so tommorow is the new tld presentations? |
| <MarciaArbott> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 12:11) It appears so... |
| <JoeHowe> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 12:12) I believe that there is still a chance for today, although Gaetano believes this to be out of order |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 12:12) Is anyone else having video/audio problems? |
| <RobJuneau> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 12:12) big time |
| <KevinAllen> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 12:12) audio is not workin |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 12:12) Ben, any idea what's wrong? |
| <RobJuneau> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 12:14) started out well enough, but died quickly--bigger than expected audience? |
| <JohnBerryhill> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 12:14) who is she? |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 12:14) Not bigger I think than Yokahama (we had more folks on the real-time discussion, I think) |
| <JoeHowe> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 12:15) I believe she is a committee member of the business constituency |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 12:18) who's that speaking? |
| <JoeHowe> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 12:18) I believe he is a rep from the gtld constituency |
| <DotComs> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 12:19) Chuck Gomes? |
| <KevinAllen> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 12:19) the guy in the red shirt? |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 12:19) Chuck. |
| <KristyMcKee> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 12:19) yeah, that's our buddy Chuck from domain-policy@internic |
| <KevinAllen> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 12:28) man its quiet |
| <RobJuneau> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 12:28) yep |
| <KristyMcKee> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 12:29) ewww I just got net congestion - silence |
| <BenjaminEdelman> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 12:29) The hotel phone system keeps disconnecting our phone connection by which we transmit audio to Cambridge for encoding there. |
| <BenjaminEdelman> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 12:29) We hope to get this straightened out at lunch, at the latest. |
| <RobJuneau> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 12:30) thanks Ben, much appreciated |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 12:30) (who's paid off the hotel switchboard?) |
| <MarciaArbott> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 12:30) lol Judith |
| <DenaWhitebirch> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 12:31) my feed seems just fine...but seems buffered/delayed? Scribe sometimes precedes video. |
| <JohnBerryhill> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 12:31) we had plenty of consensus on the ORSC appendix to wg-b |
| <MarciaArbott> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 12:31) i've lost scribe completely |
| <RobJuneau> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 12:31) mine's very shaky |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 12:31) I've lost scribe too. John, if you're a quick typist, what are we missing? |
| <JohnBerryhill> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 12:32) milton is discussing the presence of sunrise provisions in each application... |
| <JohnBerryhill> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 12:32) concerns about no tlds in which free expression is a fundamental value... |
| <MarciaArbott> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 12:32) no wonder they cut me off... i've been such a vocal opponent! |
| <JohnBerryhill> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 12:32) udrp review issues.. |
| <JohnBerryhill> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 12:33) ..and demanding that marcia's feed be turned on. |
| <MarciaArbott> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 12:33) hehehe |
| <JohnBerryhill> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 12:33) now he is discussing registry operator diversity (i.e. why should NSI run all the new ones too) |
| <JoeHowe> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 12:35) Crowd them in their like sheep |
| <rs79> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 12:36) go mike go |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 12:36) they had over 900 pre registrations |
| <JohnBerryhill> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 12:36) mike palage, complaining the room is too small for his, um, constituency |
| <rs79> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 12:36) and looking at heavy ordinence |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 12:37) you mean no name hoarding? |
| <rs79> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 12:37) "multilingual cybersquatting for dummies" |
| <MarciaArbott> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 12:37) geez, the few scribed notes I'm getting are nothing like what's been said here |
| <KevinAllen> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 12:38) i am so curious how the .web will playout |
| <KevinAllen> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 12:38) with lawsuits or what not |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 12:39) It may be interesting, for sure |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 12:39) .biz, too |
| <rs79> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 12:40) Did anybody understand them? |
| <rs79> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 12:40) Who is this guy talking? |
| <KevinAllen> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 12:41) looks like a guy with a script to read thats it |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 12:41) John, re Palage comment, that would Mike's registrar constituency or Mike's trademark constituency? |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 12:42) Leah, no name hoard |
| <JohnBerryhill> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 12:42) i'm only half listening and half working |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 12:42) ing on the part of whom, registrars? |
| <MarciaArbott> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 12:42) who is that in the red shirt? |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 12:42) Judith, yeah, like NSI not releasing names |
| <KevinAllen> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 12:43) i hope NSI is scredded in court |
| <rs79> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 12:43) I'm guessing but I think he's the new asian board member. Is that Aurbach on the right of him? |
| <DotComs> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 12:43) Gosh, this forum is more interesting than the webcast. |
| <rs79> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 12:44) it always is |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 12:44) hehe, wait for the public comment period |
| <MarciaArbott> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 12:44) and does anyone know who is speaking? |
| <rs79> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 12:44) does Aurbacj have his ICQ open? We could ask him... |
| <rs79> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 12:44) Has anybody checked to see if his lips are moving? |
| <MarciaArbott> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 12:45) hahaha |
| <KevinAllen> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 12:45) ????? yada yada yada lol |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 12:46) So that's Marilyn Cade. |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 12:47) duh, election, of course |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 12:47) Who's that? |
| <RayFassett> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 12:47) hello everyone - anything exciting as yet? |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 12:47) like watching grass grow |
| <DotComs> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 12:47) ...or paint dry |
| <KevinAllen> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 12:47) i second leah's comment |
| <MarciaArbott> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 12:47) Judith, you see a Marilyn Cade? I see a big grey splotch... |
| <rs79> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 12:48) Hi Ray. No, the usual lies, disinformaiton and utter confusion. Right now they're talking about General Assembly and Major Apathy. |
| <MarciaArbott> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 12:48) okay picture's back |
| <KevinAllen> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 12:48) we are just waiting for the meat and potatos, no fluff part of meeting |
| <RayFassett> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 12:48) I can't get the audio/video...maybe that's a good thing |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 12:48) No one willing to go on record that GA needs to be babysat by the NC -- ooops, spoke too soon, who is that NC person who wants to keep the bib (gag?) on the GA? |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 12:48) yeah, you tend to want to use it as a dart board |
| <rs79> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 12:49) Florida democracy only |
| <DenaWhitebirch> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 12:49) careful rs ;) |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 12:49) working together? |
| <KristyMcKee> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 12:49) "Server has reached its capacity and can serve no more streams. Please try again later." |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 12:49) that was an oxymoron |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 12:50) ... or just a moron ... (who was that masked man?) |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 12:50) commercial constituancy, Judith |
| <rs79> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 12:50) I got the overcapacity message too and had to use the secondary server |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 12:50) Ah, Sheppard. Gotcha. |
| <rs79> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 12:50) WTF are they actually trying to figure out? |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 12:50) whether GA should vote for chair |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 12:51) by the memberhsip |
| <rs79> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 12:51) as opposed to what? |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 12:51) That NC is "democracy", direct elections aren't. Florida redux. |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 12:51) NC choosing chair |
| <rs79> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 12:51) hell they may as wel they cose EVERYTHING ELSE |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 12:51) yep, that's the typical scenario of all of ICANN |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 12:52) Lack of representation is an understatement. |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 12:52) (How does the GA differ from the At Large?) |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 12:53) not by much, except that it is a disenfranchised part of the DNSO |
| <rs79> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 12:53) GA is part of DNSO, @large is all of ICANN |
| <DotComs> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 12:53) Is this meeting more interesting in person? Worth driving an hour to? |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 12:53) dotcoms, might be |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 12:53) Driving an hour? probably ... flying cross country ... I don't know ... |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 12:54) you get to see whos' there and maybe speak to them |
| <rs79> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 12:54) Yes and no. The meeting is dull as dust. The real action happens in the bar. It's great fun to see who drinks with who. That's where you figure out all the relationships. |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 12:54) mingle after meetings and maybe speak during public comments |
| <MarciaArbott> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 12:54) If I weren't on the east coast I would *definitely* be there |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 12:54) me too |
| <DenaWhitebirch> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 12:54) ditto Marcia, Leah |
| <DotComs> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 12:54) is today the best day to be there? |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 12:55) with prepared statements, even |
| <rs79> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 12:55) does he see his shadow? |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 12:55) tomorrow is icann general meeting - public comments |
| <DotComs> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 12:55) may have to go... |
| <DotComs> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 12:55) but then I'll miss all THIS fun! |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 12:55) ooohhh Crispy! |
| <MarciaArbott> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 12:55) tomorrow is best |
| <DenaWhitebirch> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 12:55) take a laptop DotCom |
| <MarciaArbott> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 12:55) DotCom take your laptop and keep up updated |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 12:55) bull crap! |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 12:55) Who's speaking now? |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 12:55) Crispy, Judith |
| <DotComs> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 12:55) don't have one... pathetic eh? |
| <Bob> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 12:55) Kent Crispin |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 12:56) Ken |
| <Bob> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 12:56) He's a major point of failure on the net |
| <Bob> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 12:56) (Hi everyone) |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 12:56) Yes, Ken, it is a MAJOR CHANGE |
| <DenaWhitebirch> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 12:56) hey there Bob :) |
| <rs79> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 12:56) go milton go |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 12:56) go Milton, go! |
| <rs79> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 12:57) http://www.dnso.com/when/ |
| <MarciaArbott> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 12:57) I don't show a speaker |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 12:57) Milton Mueller |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 12:58) shall we vote? |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 12:58) Who suggested the motion? |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 12:58) How about the remote participants??? |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 12:59) Ben?? yell at them, k? |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 12:59) Good question - Ben? |
| <KevinAllen> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 12:59) man this meeting needs some action like a "board member brawl" or soemthing |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 12:59) you'll see that on Thursday - at least verbally |
| <rs79> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 12:59) lost aud/vid feeed |
| <KristyMcKee> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 12:59) can not hear or see |
| <KristyMcKee> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 12:59) buzz buzz |
| <KevinAllen> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:00) in this corner "Krazy Karl" .... lol |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:00) Majority for GA vote, but not unanimous so it has to go to a maillist vote. Gimme a break. |
| <KevinAllen> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:00) man can u say digiatl florida online lol |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:00) well, GA includes all of the SO's |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:00) Mariyn wants dialogue, stroking Kent's comments. |
| <rs79> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:00) Sure. One guy can derail everythng. Feed is back but had to reconnect. |
| <rs79> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:00) Is that Marilyn? |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:01) yep |
| <JohnBerryhill> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:01) yeah... manson |
| <RobJuneau> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:01) ooof |
| <rs79> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:01) ah. we'll always have Paris. |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:01) bull! |
| <KristyMcKee> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:01) SOUND |
| <rs79> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:01) whose the bearded guy talking now |
| <JohnBerryhill> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:02) harald |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:02) just curious. How many here are for the motion? |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:02) to elect the chair? |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:02) for GA to elect its own chair? Me. |
| <MarciaArbott> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:02) me too |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:02) For Marilyn and Kent to get a room? Me. |
| <rs79> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:02) strong majority != consensus. Great. |
| <KristyMcKee> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:03) for the GA to elect it's own chair? Me! |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:03) majority rules! |
| <rs79> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:03) "A majority among people that could afford to go to LA" |
| <DotComs> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:03) or live there (and we know what THEY are like) |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:03) oh, go ahead, Gaetano, make it formal. |
| <Bob> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:03) hey whatch it ;-p |
| <KevinAllen> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:03) hey now! |
| <rs79> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:03) HEY, I used to live in LA. (But I left) |
| <JohnBerryhill> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:03) watch this... SIEG... |
| <AlexanderSvensson> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:04) I seem to have missed the ccTLD presentation -- was there anything about their "Resolution on ccTLD representation to the ICANN Board"? |
| <DotComs> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:04) I live in So. Cal, grew up in LA, I can say it |
| <JohnBerryhill> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:04) aww, they didn't do it.... |
| <Bob> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:04) you can check out but you can never leave |
| <rs79> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:04) where in LA do you live? |
| <KevinAllen> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:04) la born and raised |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:04) I lived in Orange County for 20 years |
| <DotComs> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:04) In Ventura County now |
| <KevinAllen> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:04) hey DOT Anaheim area here |
| <MarciaArbott> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:04) I lived in Long Beach & Orange County for 9 years |
| <Bob> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:04) The "Valley" - fer sure fer sure ;-p |
| <rs79> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:04) east or west of PCH :-) |
| <KevinAllen> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:05) Yorba Linda!!! woo hoo! |
| <DotComs> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:05) No, Thousand Oaks |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:05) Fountain Valley, Costa Mesa and Santa Ana |
| <rs79> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:05) Torrance, Redondo and Palos Verdes. |
| <DotComs> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:05) Ok then, we have concensus, we all know what WE are like; WE are THEY |
| <KevinAllen> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:06) Surfs Up dude! :-) |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:06) oh, for sure |
| <rs79> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:06) who cares how they are nominated, isn't the important thing who WINS? |
| <rs79> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:07) heh. my sons still ilve there - they surf I don't |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:07) Ben, any reason why remote participants' votes don't count? |
| <Bob> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:07) what? not enough surf on the great lakes? |
| <KevinAllen> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:07) becuase they know we will mess it all up for them |
| <rs79> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:07) remarkably non-responsive audiene this time |
| <DotComs> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:07) Feels like we're locked in the kid's room |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:08) DotCom, I think anyone there in person who isn't IP or Biz feels the same way ... |
| <rs79> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:08) who f'ing cares. the dnso has no power, the NC has it all and that's all rigged by big business |
| <Bob> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:08) anyone here actually at the meeting? |
| <rs79> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:08) go dave! |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:09) Who's he? |
| <MarciaArbott> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:10) yes, who is that? |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:10) "Defined membership" = IP |
| <rs79> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:10) dave johnson? DC lawyer. Good guy. |
| <RobJuneau> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:10) I can't recognize anyone--too blurry/jerky |
| <rs79> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:11) whose the french babe? Elizabeth? |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:12) That was Peek! |
| <rs79> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:13) ...for some definition of "bad" |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:13) more crap |
| <KevinAllen> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:13) is peek good or bad? |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:13) Are Kent & Co. not taking up a good amount of time? |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:14) put it this way, Kevin. The SOs do NOT represent most of the internet. That's the problem |
| <rs79> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:14) body else seems to want to talk. how is the attendance? It's very quiet for an icann meeting? |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:14) anti-phone establishment, but pro ICANN ... in a category all its own ... |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:15) voting registry |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:16) Joe?? |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:16) things could get lively |
| <baptista> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:16) hello Leah - nice to see you here. |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:16) likewise |
| <baptista> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:16) not many people here. |
| <rs79> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:17) hi joe. how's peterboro? |
| <baptista> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:17) i'm not in peterburgers today - i'm in lindsay |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:17) you went out? |
| <rs79> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:17) Good Mercedes wrecking yard in Lindsay :-) |
| <rs79> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:18) hahaha, yeah, did you see yourshadow joe? |
| <baptista> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:18) mercedes and watches |
| <rs79> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:18) these days it's watches and mercedes |
| <rs79> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:18) joe, somebody appears to have overdosed the audience with valium |
| <Bob> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:19) kent's aftershave |
| <rs79> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:19) and how many are large icann members. |
| <JoeHowe> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:19) I think they're hammered |
| <RobJuneau> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:19) see my remote hand waving? |
| <baptista> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:19) it's like that - most of the times - it only gets bouncy when twomey visits |
| <rs79> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:19) hahaha. .NU did it, NSI copies now Icann has to deal with it, caught offguard. |
| <rs79> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:20) every reply to a chinese domain name? The fact that it splits the net seems irrelevant. |
| <Mike> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:20) baptista: how much for a submariner? |
| <AlexanderSvensson> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:20) There was a German press report that the ccTLDs think about getting board seats -- does nobody have any details on that? |
| <baptista> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:21) that's interesting - they should in fact have some representation. |
| <rs79> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:21) you don't want a sub. They're crap. About $2300 US though. The movemets are fragile, the Tudors are much better, you can actually get PARTS for them unlike Rolex |
| <KristyMcKee> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:21) oh yeah and do they show the date? |
| <AlexanderSvensson> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:22) there seems to have been talk about replacing the 4 current interim @l-directors by cctld people, but i have no confirm. |
| <baptista> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:22) so who from berkman is monitoring today |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:22) Ben |
| <baptista> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:22) oh - OK no fruit cocktail talk then. it's against the rules |
| <rs79> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:23) the cctlds are screwed. recently released letetrs from Mike Roberts shows they are asked to do all the work AND pay icann and get what in return? |
| <rs79> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:23) kentcrispin.web |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:23) rs, nada |
| <rs79> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:23) ah, time for the scare tactics. |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:23) Does Kent have a permanent seat by the mike? |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:23) hehe, seems like it |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:24) ooohhhh he disappeared. :) |
| <baptista> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:24) kent has a permanent annouce system up his a*s is more likely. That boy has alot riding on icann. |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:24) IDNO is here |
| <rs79> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:24) That's me alrigt. Forever with a doubt. |
| <CiprianoGaribay> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:25) for the people in the kids room |
| <rs79> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:25) kids room? |
| <rs79> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:25) they have daycare? |
| <RobJuneau> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:25) kiddie zoo |
| <baptista> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:25) Its a long story Judith - and how are you my dear - anything new in multilingual - still have not done the zone on that - apparently non of it is in the zone. |
| <JohnBerryhill> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:25) that room is on BBC-2 |
| <CiprianoGaribay> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:25) (sarcasm -- our votes don't count) |
| <baptista> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:26) Hi Joop - how are ya |
| <rs79> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:26) BBC 2 is showing a documentary on cheetahs right now. "Behowld the cheetah, it's an amazing anumal..." |
| <KevinAllen> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:26) this sooooooo slow |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:26) Am stupidly allowing my blood pressure to soar ... |
| <rs79> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:26) Yeah, from the FIRST one in Berlin... |
| <baptista> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:27) when the blood pressure goes up Judith - it's a clear sign to go out an laught. Not worth the strokes later in life |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:27) Here we go, guys |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:27) true that |
| <JoopTeernstra> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:27) Hi Joao, very frustrating connection here |
| <rs79> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:27) yes, "let's move on and not resolve more things, since we havn't resolved anytjing so far". My god this gives new meaning to "lip service". |
| <baptista> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:27) what the problem joop - sow connection? |
| <rs79> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:28) Hey Joop. They're about to ignore you again. This is Richard. |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:28) Gaetano, get the hint ... |
| <JoopTeernstra> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:28) the server appears to be overloaded from here |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:28) ok, I'll settled for puzzled ... its a start ... |
| <baptista> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:28) richard - are you in la or bannok |
| <rs79> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:28) bannokburn |
| <JoopTeernstra> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:28) Hi Richard, let's see |
| <baptista> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:29) i got the same thing maybe ben can update us on the servers |
| <anon165> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:29) Hmmm...I am on Mars...the scenary is much better :-) |
| <rs79> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:29) I have very little interest in what these guys do any more. I'm just watching with a car wreck mwentality. |
| <rs79> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:29) Gary Burton? The Rock star? |
| <baptista> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:29) same here |
| <rs79> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:29) uh oh "personaities". Hey, and I'm not even on the list. |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:30) Who's speaking now? |
| <baptista> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:30) i barely bother to come - did know all the fun people were here |
| <anon165> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:30) WOW...some else from MARS? |
| <RobJuneau> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:30) Gary Burton, Judith |
| <JoopTeernstra> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:30) my feed gets cut off all the time |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:30) Greg Burton |
| <RobJuneau> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:30) Mine too, Joop. |
| <rs79> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:30) Mars? 128N 128W. |
| <anon163> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:30) does anyone know when they will be discussin the new TLD's? |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:30) applyatlarge.com |
| <RobJuneau> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:30) Sorry |
| <RobJuneau> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:30) Greg |
| <anon165> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:30) 128N 128E |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:30) So that's Greg. Gotcha. |
| <rs79> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:31) ah. TC? |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:31) They already have an individual's constituency. It's called "At Large." |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:31) At large is not part of DNSO |
| <RobJuneau> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:31) Should have called it "At Medium" |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:31) Leah, maybe it should be ... Rob, cute. |
| <anon165> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:32) Jon is not here |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:32) DNSO should have the ind constituancy also |
| <DotComs> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:32) Or... At Least |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:32) at last |
| <RobJuneau> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:32) Ha! |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:32) but the GA is made up of all SO's plus those who regster for GA |
| <anon165> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:32) Maybe we should have an ICANN trivia game...as in OW |
| <anon163> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:33) InportsExports.com there is a secret word in there. InportSEXports.com can i have opinions |
| <anon165> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:34) 6 people on Mars today... |
| <rs79> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:34) heh. Ok, I'll go first. Which 3 letter company paid the most to form/control ICANN? |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:35) IBM? |
| <baptista> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:35) ibm |
| <RobJuneau> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:35) USA? |
| <anon165> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:35) Not ATT |
| <rs79> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:35) bingo, 5 points. want a 10 point question |
| <baptista> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:35) you get the prize leah - your first. |
| <anon165> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:35) MCI |
| <anon163> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:35) have they chosen the new registra for the .web? |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:35) tks, Joe |
| <RobJuneau> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:35) KGB |
| <KristyMcKee> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:35) I second the MCI but would say world comm |
| <rs79> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:35) the KGB is no this inneficiant. |
| <baptista> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:35) I wish fleming was here. |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:36) why, Joe? |
| <anon165> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:36) MCI just got hit with $3.5 million in slamming fees |
| <rs79> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:36) he is here |
| <rs79> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:36) "giving the floor to Kent". Hasn't he sublet it by now. |
| <baptista> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:36) i've never seen him play on irc - i consider him a bit of an ascii artist - his messages you know are somewhat artisitic - in a funny literary and technical way |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:37) He should carry his own mike |
| <rs79> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:37) "You don't have to be an individual". True. Brian Reid's cat voted. |
| <JoeHowe> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:37) This is painful |
| <baptista> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:37) no not yet |
| <anon165> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:37) |
| <JoeHowe> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:38) Was the last meeting this slow |
| <baptista> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:38) painful or boring to the max |
| <anon165> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:38) CTL-K gives colore...this is the same chat that CNN uses |
| <anon163> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:38) ok thanks |
| <anon165> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:38) CNN streams so fast you can hardly read it |
| <rs79> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:38) Painful? This is normal. Is this your fist ICANN meting. |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:38) geez louise |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:38) Then make the ind constituancy, more open |
| <JoopTeernstra> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:38) Has anybody given a report on where the IDNO noe stands? |
| <baptista> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:39) I like her - she was at the last meeting |
| <JoeHowe> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:39) Yes to first |
| <rs79> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:39) ah, a RICH individual. |
| <DotComs> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:39) what's wrong with being a speculator??? |
| <DotComs> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:40) she just lumped the terms cybersquatter with speculator. Any stock market investor is a speculator! |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:41) DotComs, maybe its just politically more expedient to dismiss the argument before it arises, even though I agree with you from a practical standpoint. |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:42) P&G is both |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:42) squatter and speculator |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:42) Kent risks grievous payback in "what goes around comes around"-ville |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:43) Who is this guy talking to the camera? |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:43) Roland Meyer |
| <DotComs> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:44) Judith, but such tactics, while expedient, give validity to wrong assumptions |
| <rs79> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:44) AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:45) DotComs, such is the danger of politics overall ... |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:45) ahhhhhh what? |
| <DotComs> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:45) yep I know, just boils my blood |
| <rs79> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:45) roland. oy |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:46) hahahahahahahaha |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:46) Can't someone spill something on her? |
| <JoopTeernstra> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:46) What does Marilyn Cade mean? |
| <KristyMcKee> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:47) I'll have to get my cat to decode her speech |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:47) (just so she looks slightly less smug) |
| <JoopTeernstra> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:47) Roberty means: That means some kind of figleaf.. |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:48) who's speaking now? |
| <rs79> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:49) dave johnson |
| <baptista> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:50) harold looks like he needs a drink - a big stiffner in the old english tradition |
| <baptista> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:52) ls -l bin |
| <baptista> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:52) sorry wrong screen |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:53) sure, as long as he has th last word |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:53) aw, come on! |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:53) it's very closed |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:53) It occurs to me, as much as so many detest the IP Consitutency, perhaps despite or over its protests, someone ought to lobby for a Speculator's Constituency. |
| <JoopTeernstra> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:54) Unbelievable how Kent now uses his infiltration of the NCDNHC as an argument of general openness! |
| <rs79> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:54) it's in the bylaws. And if K*nt is unable to have the last word, Crocker get's it instead. |
| <DotComs> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:54) Juidith, yes, but would that name go over? |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:54) It might do well (at least in numbers joining) because of it. |
| <DotComs> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:55) ok, let's do it |
| <rs79> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:55) you can't have speculators without confused consumers, so I want a confusedconsumers constituency |
| <DotComs> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:55) go to Florida then :-) |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:55) rs79, that would have to be lead by Kent ... you don't want that ... |
| <KristyMcKee> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:56) speculatiors might be a confusing name since so many of the participants in other consitiuencies participate... |
| <JoopTeernstra> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:56) Yes, Judith. Kent is everywhere. He also hosts the IP constituency. |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:56) DotComs, I wonder what would happen if masses of Afternic and GD members pushed for t hose companies to help establish this group. Just thinking out loud. |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:56) yeah, and that's why he doesn't want an indiv. const. |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:56) no challenges |
| <rs79> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:57) and he wrote the @large activation scripts |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:57) makes sense |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:57) So basically its the Kent and Marilyn show. |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:57) they didn't work |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:57) looks like it, Judith |
| <JoopTeernstra> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:57) and, Richard, he controls the voting in the ncdnhc |
| <rs79> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:58) yes, K*nt abd Marilyn call pretty much all the shots. |
| <DotComs> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:58) Judith, it will happen eventually |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:58) WE ARE |
| <DotComs> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:59) Judith - the problem, evidenced in the high non-response rate to UDRPs, is apathy on the part of speculators. |
| <rs79> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:59) oh yeah, we NEED more mailing lists |
| <RobJuneau> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 13:59) spectatulators |
| <rs79> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:00) this should be good |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:00) Ben, why are comments being ignored? |
| <JD> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:00) go Professor Froomkin |
| <RNesson> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:01) For anyone who is having difficulty getting a video feed, please try each of the streams. Some of them are full and others still have feeds available. |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:01) YAY!! |
| <rs79> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:01) oh Micahel. you've left yourself open to the "stability of the internet" argument |
| <JD> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:02) http://personal.law.miami.edu/~froomkin/articles/icann.pdf |
| <baptista> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:03) yes |
| <RobJuneau> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:03) thanks JD |
| <JD> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:03) welcome |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:04) Good girl! |
| <rs79> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:04) and it was full of lies. I'm thinking... liesicanntoldme.com |
| <JoopTeernstra> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:04) Yes, Ellen is one of the best |
| <JD> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:04) where is the documenation to back of the reviews in the staff report? |
| <CiprianoGaribay> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:05) and extended their own stay |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:05) Ellen gets applause - first applause since meeting opened, yes? |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:06) YAY!!! clap, clap, clap |
| <RobJuneau> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:06) More Ellen, less Ken |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:06) more Ellen less Ken ... good mantra ... |
| <rs79> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:06) go ellen go |
| <JD> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:07) Ken S is all about Ken S and his position is his tool for personal benefit |
| <JoopTeernstra> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:07) Did anyone verify how Roberty interpreted the straw poll on the idno constituency? |
| <JoeHowe> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:07) Yes, first applause |
| <rs79> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:07) has stubby spoken today? |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:07) It wasn't on the IDNO, but an indiv. const, Joop |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:08) but it was positive that it needs to be considered |
| <JoopTeernstra> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:08) yes, Leah, lets be united, though |
| <rs79> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:08) valium |
| <MarciaArbott> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:08) hello again everyone |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:08) I'm just reporting the meeting, Joop |
| <MarciaArbott> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:08) what did I miss? |
| <JD> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:09) http://www.law.wayne.edu/weinberg/dnso_review.htm |
| <JoopTeernstra> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:09) I mean, he said "some" favoured one, few 2, and "many" abstentions |
| <rs79> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:09) ie, Ambler IOD can pick .dogmeat or something |
| <rs79> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:09) .loser maybe |
| <KristyMcKee> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:09) who is speaking now? (can't see) |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:09) It was 42 for an ind const, 2 against and 10 abstentions |
| <rs79> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:09) dave crocker |
| <MarciaArbott> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:09) rs79, you're opposed to IOD getting .web? |
| <KristyMcKee> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:10) should have guessed that one |
| <rs79> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:10) huh? |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:10) so we have our crispy-crockett |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:10) Kent joined the equal applause association. |
| <KevinAllen> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:10) .web whos for? press 1 against press 2 |
| <safesys> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:10) 1 |
| <DenaWhitebirch> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:10) Marcia I think rs was saying that seems to be what "they" want .web to do. |
| <KevinAllen> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:10) 1 |
| <safesys> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:11) (iod) |
| <anon173> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:11) in my opinion i think that the .web will be on the same scale in 1 year as the .com |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:11) 1 |
| <JD> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:11) http://personal.law.miami.edu/~froomkin/boardsquat.htm |
| <KristyMcKee> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:11) 1 |
| <MichaelRelton> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:11) 1 |
| <KevinAllen> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:11) i am just curious how the ruling for the current registry will end up |
| <JeffreySkimming> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:11) 1 |
| <JoopTeernstra> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:12) I liked that intro : I am an Individual Domain Name Owner |
| <KevinAllen> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:12) out of luck and start from scratch? |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:12) you go Hope ... |
| <RobJuneau> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:12) 1 |
| <JD> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:12) http://personal.law.miami.edu/~froomkin/boardsquat2.htm |
| <safesys> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:12) good points she raised there |
| <Marcia> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:12) anybody else keep getting disconnected? |
| <JD> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:12) it is all this way for window dressing, these decisions were made long ago IMO |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:13) yup |
| <Marcia> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:13) i agree, JD |
| <safesys> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:13) yep |
| <RobJuneau> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:13) yep, seems that way to me too, JD |
| <KristyMcKee> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:13) yup |
| <DotComs> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:13) I can't support any new tlds until the IP issue is clarified; more tlds=more lawsuits; why do you guys think we need .web? |
| <CiprianoGaribay> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:13) I agree |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:13) nuther good one |
| <safesys> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:13) sure feels that way reading the reports on the applications |
| <Marcia> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:13) let me take a vote, who here thinks the selection of the new TLDs is fair and impartial? |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:13) open the name space - nix UDRP |
| <safesys> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:13) not me |
| <CiprianoGaribay> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:13) not me |
| <JD> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:13) ICANN must go or have drastic change, we would be far better of with the DOC at least there is a checks and balances and a place of appeal |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:13) not me |
| <KristyMcKee> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:13) not me |
| <JonathanRogers> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:14) not I |
| <RobJuneau> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:14) nope |
| <Marcia> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:14) ICANN Board Members please comment on our informal vote.... |
| <JD> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:14) no fairness it is a slap in the face |
| <rs79> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:15) brb |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:15) and they cut out the consultation period |
| <JD> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:15) how can ICANN be party to awarding tld's when some companies oiperate the same ones in an alternative root? I think that makes them liable for litigation |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:15) yup |
| <JoopTeernstra> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:15) The TLD application process reminds me of Tendering for Contracts in the Middle East... |
| <JeffreySkimming> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:15) The selection process was mediocre until they started the initial review. Then it fell apart. |
| <CiprianoGaribay> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:16) looks like 3 minutes for TLD discussion as well |
| <DenaWhitebirch> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:17) I can see the applicants now...practicing with a stopwatch... |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:17) I think they allowed 10 minutes |
| <JD> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:17) They might give more time just to appease them but what will change? |
| <Marcia> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:17) legally, they can't |
| <CiprianoGaribay> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:17) It's Greg Kinnear!! |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:18) Who was that? |
| <JoopTeernstra> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:18) Craig Simon made a good point |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:18) Simon |
| <JD> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:18) Yes, Why did we vote for new directors and they can't vote how silly and corrupt |
| <safesys> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:18) yep |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:18) Applause (resounding) |
| <safesys> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:18) but it was only a cosmetic vote |
| <CiprianoGaribay> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:19) clap clap |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:19) Not for nothing, just postpone it. |
| <JD> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:19) And they promised in 1998 to allow a vote for 9 directors yet they changed the bylaws without any due process |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:19) Bullsh*t ... not "paid for nothing" ... just postpone it, like from the 16th to the 17th! |
| <CiprianoGaribay> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:19) what?? |
| <JoopTeernstra> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:19) Roberto is spreading FUD now |
| <CiprianoGaribay> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:20) That supports the idea that the board members themselves are being bought! |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:20) second |
| <JD> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:20) Why did we elect new board members if they can't vote c"mon |
| <JD> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:20) go Rony |
| <Bob> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:20) vote? only the big business interests have a vote |
| <baptista> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:21) was that ellen rony |
| <safesys> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:22) urm, how can they approve all operationally and technically correct applications when there are multiple applications for same gtld? |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:22) ... is Marilyn looking slightly less smug? maybe just slightly? |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:22) she doesn't like the challenge |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:22) good ... waiting for her to break a sweat ... |
| <MmmCow> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:23) 2. When there are mutually exclusive applications for the same top-level domain name, use the following rules to resolve conflicts: |
| <MmmCow> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:23) Select the applicant organization that is not alreadydesignates a registry which is not already a registry for top-level domains in the ICANN-administered root; and |
| <MmmCow> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:23) Avoid giving contested top-level domains in the first round to organizations or consortiums that represent more than 40% market share of the existing market for registry or registrar services in the .com, .net, |
| <JD> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:23) These statement should have been handled in Yokohama |
| <MmmCow> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:23) .com, .net, and .org top-level domains. |
| <anon173> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:23) i point also, if new gTLD's come in and then 4 months down the line some more new gTLD's come out then there is no value at all on the first gTLD's that were brought out such as the .web |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:23) if they fail, they fail |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:24) since when is ICANN supposed to control business practices? |
| <CiprianoGaribay> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:24) their possible success or failure should not be an issue |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:24) yes yes yes! |
| <RobJuneau> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:24) yes what? |
| <JD> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:24) The market will decide |
| <anon173> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:25) i agree |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:25) anon, the issue is not supposed to be the value of the names |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:25) .tv guy -- yes yes yes! |
| <JD> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:25) .tv is something they should look at with their outrageous fess |
| <JD> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:25) fees |
| <safesys> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:25) nothing wrong with their fees really |
| <JD> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:25) thousands a year! |
| <anon173> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:25) u mean to reg a .tv? |
| <safesys> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:25) if they didn't sell at those rates - speculators would |
| <JD> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:25) yes |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:26) Damn, this thing is picking up! |
| <anon173> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:26) is that a bad thing? |
| <JoopTeernstra> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:26) whatever the market can bear. Tuvalu benefits |
| <safesys> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:26) so it going to the registry that paid millions seems equitable to me |
| <JD> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:26) you pay big money to lease with all types of things hanginf over your head scary |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:26) not necessarily, safesys |
| <safesys> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:26) you can't afford - you don't buy |
| <safesys> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:26) seems a traditional business thing to me |
| <JD> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:27) true however only the wealthy get to participate don't you agree |
| <KevinAllen> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:27) hey the new baord members will be seated in when a year? |
| <anon173> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:27) i agree |
| <DenaWhitebirch> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:27) the .tv comment was left all the way out of the scribe notes...? |
| <safesys> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:27) strange huh? |
| <CiprianoGaribay> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:27) redundant |
| <safesys> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:28) he better speed his comments up - 30secs fast approaching... |
| <JD> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:28) doesn't .tv have enough? |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:28) Ben, who's handling the scribe notes? |
| <JoannaLane> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:28) i believe new board members are seated on thursday evening |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:28) good girl. They really messed with IOD |
| <MmmCow> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:28) they should interupt him every 5 seconds to inform him how much time he has remaining |
| <safesys> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:28) lol |
| <MmmCow> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:28) heh |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:29) hehehe |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:29) yep |
| <JoopTeernstra> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:29) WOW Crocker thinks GA resolutions have "an effect" |
| <MmmCow> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:29) easy for HIM to say |
| <CiprianoGaribay> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:29) Yes |
| <MarciaArbott> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:30) I've lost video feed - have to reinstall RP - dang! |
| <CiprianoGaribay> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:31) the scribe is clairvoyant |
| <safesys> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:31) i was thinking that |
| <RobJuneau> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:31) that's what it is... |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:31) just lost feed |
| <JoannaLane> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:31) i have 2 audio feeds running and they are 20 secs apart... |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:31) re-buffereing |
| <JoannaLane> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:31) now ay is it "real time" |
| <KristyMcKee> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:32) no video |
| <JoannaLane> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:32) i cant video at all |
| <MarciaArbott> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:32) me either |
| <RobJuneau> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:32) mine's trying to ... nope, it gave up |
| <DenaWhitebirch> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:32) network problems...lost mine too. |
| <CiprianoGaribay> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:32) I agree with Matt |
| <KevinAllen> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:32) lost mine |
| <JoannaLane> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:32) i switched to audio only |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:32) lost connections are all together too coincidental ... |
| <KristyMcKee> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:32) next time let's get cnn to cover |
| <CiprianoGaribay> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:32) not on that poing, though |
| <RobJuneau> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:32) it does seem that way... |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:32) darn! |
| <CiprianoGaribay> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:32) "point" |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:32) want that vote! |
| <KevinAllen> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:33) is it down for good till next part of meeting ? |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:33) I got mine back. |
| <MichaelRelton> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:33) video is back |
| <DenaWhitebirch> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:33) mine too |
| <CiprianoGaribay> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:33) there should be no false distinctions among TLD's |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:34) i'm about to be kicked on ISP conection. will have to come back if it quits |
| <MarciaArbott> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:34) Leah I've been kicked three times! |
| <CiprianoGaribay> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:34) do we count? |
| <MichaelRelton> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:34) eye |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:34) nope |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:34) we dont' count |
| <MarciaArbott> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:34) Cipriano, what do you think? |
| <CiprianoGaribay> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:34) about what? |
| <MarciaArbott> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:34) we sure don't - it's becoming more and more obvious |
| <MarciaArbott> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:35) ***anything*** |
| <safesys> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:35) this chat is another cosmetic thing to make us feel part of the process |
| <MarciaArbott> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:35) I agree |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:35) Sure, easy to say. |
| <MarciaArbott> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:35) Parts of this chat session is supposed to be read aloud at the meeting --- let's see if that happends |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:36) Ben, I ask again - why remote participants aren't being counted in the vote? |
| <MmmCow> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:36) what BS |
| <MarciaArbott> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:36) I have yet to see anyone ask "what do our online attendees say?" |
| <safesys> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:36) what did you expect though? |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:36) lemme know what the vote is..... |
| <MmmCow> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:36) #2 was clear |
| <safesys> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:36) this is ICANN - they have an industrial strength bs making machine... |
| <CiprianoGaribay> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:36) Provisions should be made to count remote participants, Marcia. It's not like the on-site meeting is restricted anyway. |
| <MmmCow> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:36) lol safe |
| <MarciaArbott> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:37) yes, i agree cipriano, but it doesn't mean it's happening |
| <MarciaArbott> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:37) as a matter of fact, i don't think the physical participants count, either |
| <MarciaArbott> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:37) yes? |
| <MarciaArbott> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:38) you raised your hand? |
| <CiprianoGaribay> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:38) (pseudo-vote, just kidding) |
| <KevinAllen> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:38) i think we should all chip in and buy him a suit i dont want some chump deciding the internets fate |
| <safesys> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:38) lol |
| <KevinAllen> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:38) in a t-shirt lol |
| <MarciaArbott> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:38) Kevin, probably too late at this point - that's my opinion |
| <MarciaArbott> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:39) But I will help take steps to disband or bring ICANN under a series of checks and balances if they follow the course I believe they will |
| <KevinAllen> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:39) who cares ill give him my jacket at least we wont have to see his shorts since hes behinda table |
| <MarciaArbott> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:39) haha |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:40) resolution #2 carried - decision will wait until applicants can respond to the staff report? will that be before or after the new directors are seated? |
| <CiprianoGaribay> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:40) C'mon, at least it's in keeping with the new IT geek dress code |
| <KristyMcKee> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:40) where do you work? |
| <safesys> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:40) i think someone ought to check to see if the scribe is still alive |
| <CiprianoGaribay> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:40) Independent consultant |
| <MarciaArbott> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:40) Judith, please repeat, decision will wait???? |
| <KristyMcKee> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:40) all the IT professionals up here look NICE |
| <CiprianoGaribay> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:40) (University of Notre Dame right now) |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:41) Marcia, I'm just observing this thing like you are - resolution carried means they'll it? discuss it? what? I don't know? |
| <KristyMcKee> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:41) ohhh finally - i can hear and see the video!! |
| <MarciaArbott> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:42) dang, I don't know, and I was parlimentarian in high school - too many years ago |
| <Bob> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:42) its something for the NC to ignore Judith |
| <safesys> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:43) you have to love icann |
| <MarciaArbott> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:43) ICANN'T |
| <safesys> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:43) and we wonder why the udrp is not treated uniformly |
| <Leah2> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:43) good analysis :) |
| <RobJuneau> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:44) no video, blah |
| <MarciaArbott> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:44) hahaha, don't need video to see how funny that is |
| <MarciaArbott> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:44) inconsistent, no, I can't believe it! |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:44) Great, tell me he's now going to throw out the vote - and he's going to insult the voters too! |
| <CiprianoGaribay> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:44) do we need to send it to Florida for a recount? |
| <safesys> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:44) i think what they miss is that people want them to make a fair decision is all |
| <MmmCow> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:44) his problem is that the money he's been paid might get taking back |
| <MarciaArbott> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:44) okay ICANN, now carry a vote *between* the two choices |
| <safesys> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:45) and they feel that a fair decision is not likely given the notes made on the applications thus far |
| <MmmCow> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:45) oops, did I say that out loud? |
| <DotComs> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:45) So why did he take a vote? |
| <baptista> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:45) i'll see ya all later - my gateway need to be rebooted - and i'll try to find my way back later. |
| <MarciaArbott> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:45) well, it wasn't THAT LOUD ;) |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:45) Who presented (cock blocked) resolution 4? |
| <KristyMcKee> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:45) bye Joe |
| <MarciaArbott> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:45) bye |
| <Bob> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:46) ttfn |
| <JoannaLane> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:46) he doesn't like the vote so he is not going to put it before the board? |
| <Leah2> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:46) no, they conflict, Joanna |
| <baptista> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:46) kristy baby - i did know you were here. Good to see. |
| <baptista> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:46) are you having fun kristy |
| <KristyMcKee> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:46) thanks - sure this is great fun! |
| <JoannaLane> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:46) i know leah |
| <JoannaLane> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:46) but thats what he said |
| <KristyMcKee> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:46) I brought part of my home gym into my office to entertain myself |
| <baptista> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:46) excellent - cheers |
| <MarciaArbott> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:47) I can't believe #1 didn't pass!!!!!!!!! |
| <Bob> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:47) look who's in the room |
| <MarciaArbott> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:47) no video |
| <KristyMcKee> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:47) who Bob? |
| <CiprianoGaribay> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:47) what was 4? |
| <CiprianoGaribay> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:47) 2 rather |
| <Bob> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:47) the expense accounts |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:47) Marcia, perhaps one didn't pass because a passed 3 accomplishes (perhaps) #1 - no way everyone can respond to the staff report in one day ... |
| <DotComs> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:48) I was on the phone... what won? |
| <MarciaArbott> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:48) not to make a decision on the new TDS until applicants respond to report |
| <MarciaArbott> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:48) Judith, i agree, but still the consensus (i thought) was to have the new board members seated |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:48) Who suggested #4? |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:49) Marcia, it is, maybe just not among those in that room ... they didn't count remote participants |
| <JoannaLane> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:49) no marcia, new board members don't have to be saeted, butmaybe they will be anyway |
| <MarciaArbott> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:49) they ***should*** be able to vote |
| <JoannaLane> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:49) judith, i agree they should count remote participants |
| <MarciaArbott> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:50) I WANT TO BE COUNTED |
| <JoannaLane> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:50) can we sent an email request about this? |
| <MarciaArbott> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:50) Who else wants to be counted? |
| <Leah2> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:50) the board voted not to seat them so the board has to vote to seat them and they won't do it |
| <DotComs> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:50) Isn't there another link where you can post comments that will be read at the meeting? |
| <DenaWhitebirch> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:50) Marcia, maybe that should be brought up in the general discussions? |
| <MarciaArbott> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:50) Joanna, use the comment submission form |
| <Leah2> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:50) http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/icann/la2000/realtime/broadcast.asp |
| <JoannaLane> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:50) I believe there's an email you can send |
| <blaise> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:50) Joanna: go to http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/icann/la2000/realtime/ask.asp |
| <Leah2> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:51) But they are not pay ing attention to the comments |
| <JoannaLane> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:51) well i am going to put a comment there...can we formulate one together? |
| <JoannaLane> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:51) how many people here want to vote |
| <CiprianoGaribay> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:52) comment on the need to keep up with our comments |
| <DotComs> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:52) Anybody have a pager number for someone in the room? Page them, tell them we are here |
| <DenaWhitebirch> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:52) Might be easier to ask who doesn't |
| <KristyMcKee> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:52) I do: Im here today so that I can be counted |
| <MarciaArbott> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:52) I just voted on the submission form and stated that as a remote participant I wanted my vote counted |
| <JoannaLane> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:52) i cant count people who dont respond. |
| <Leah2> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:53) lost audio and video again |
| <RobJuneau> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:53) I'm countable, just getting kicked off the server |
| <KristyMcKee> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:53) my connection to the server is gone again |
| <DenaWhitebirch> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:53) I lost the feed now also. |
| <MarciaArbott> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:53) Joanna are you in the room? |
| <anon166> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:53) i lost my feed too |
| <JoannaLane> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:53) wyes |
| <KristyMcKee> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:53) someone must have something important they are saving now |
| <MarciaArbott> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:53) physically |
| <anon166> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:54) do you guys hear a dial tone? |
| <JoannaLane> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:54) no marcia...i am in ny |
| <CiprianoGaribay> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:54) dial tone? |
| <JoannaLane> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:54) yes, we have dial tone |
| <lizwhitebirch> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:54) yes |
| <JoannaLane> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:54) and busy signal...this is bs |
| <anon166> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:54) ringing |
| <JoannaLane> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:54) ringing |
| <anon166> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:54) what the hell |
| <KristyMcKee> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:54) my line quality just tested 44 |
| <JoannaLane> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:54) ROFLMA |
| <anon166> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:54) did you hear that |
| <JoannaLane> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:54) we have receptionist answering at Marriot |
| <anon166> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:54) i heard the marriott answer the phone |
| <DenaWhitebirch> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:55) I don't hear anything... |
| <JoannaLane> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:55) feed is back |
| <MarciaArbott> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:55) Burton's comment - is it passed or a suggestion or what> |
| <Leah2> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:55) "the link you have may be outdated" on video |
| <KristyMcKee> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:55) me too |
| <MarciaArbott> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:55) yeah, you weren't there to make the inside deals, Leah |
| <DenaWhitebirch> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:55) well this session was to have ended at noon their time...that's about when we lost the feed. |
| <CiprianoGaribay> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:56) I still have video |
| <KristyMcKee> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:56) good point Dena |
| <RobJuneau> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:56) I'm hearing nothing, seeing nothing but this forum |
| <JoeHowe> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:56) Someone send Real some money |
| <KristyMcKee> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:56) Is their headquarters sitll in the Twin CIties? |
| <DenaWhitebirch> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:56) mine's back |
| <MarciaArbott> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:56) well, someone tell me, why did the scribed notes go from a suggestion by Burton the DNSO review? |
| <MichaelRelton> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:56) video is back |
| <KristyMcKee> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:56) my video & audio is back |
| <Jean-MichelBecar> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:56) II don't have any video :-( |
| <Leah2> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:57) had to refresh the link page and then reconnect to the video feed |
| <KristyMcKee> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:57) V.C. we already voted in the GA on this |
| <RobJuneau> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:57) ok, sound, lights and Froomkin |
| <MarciaArbott> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:58) Michael Froomkin is speaking? |
| <MarciaArbott> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:58) ] |
| <RobJuneau> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:58) yes |
| <CiprianoGaribay> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:58) wow |
| <MarciaArbott> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:58) WONDERFUL - !!! |
| <Leah2> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:58) good goin Michael! |
| <CiprianoGaribay> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:58) They look scared :) |
| <Bob> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:58) accountability - a rare species |
| <MarciaArbott> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:58) As a remote participant, I want it duly noted that I stand behind Michael Froomkin and his beliefs. |
| <CiprianoGaribay> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:58) ditto |
| <CiprianoGaribay> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:59) Yes, yes, yes...... |
| <CiprianoGaribay> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 14:59) clap, cla[ |
| <Bob> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 15:00) FYI: http://www.net-speed.com/Times.html |
| <Leah2> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 15:00) yes, yes |
| <Bob> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 15:01) "ask Congress to investigate and stop ICANN from harming internet" |
| <rajnishsharma> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 15:01) yes |
| <JoannaLane> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 15:01) i agree Bob |
| <CiprianoGaribay> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 15:01) sophistry |
| <Leah2> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 15:01) then the board can select the runners up in the elections also |
| <MarciaArbott> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 15:01) I've asked them - they're meeting tomorrow |
| <KristyMcKee> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 15:01) I think I should be appointed chief internet governance justice |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 15:01) CDT's Davidson has been quoted misinforming the public in the press, and now he's sabotaging legitimate efforts. What's wrong with this picture? |
| <Bob> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 15:02) see url |
| <CiprianoGaribay> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 15:02) at least she didn't spell her name again |
| <anon246> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 15:02) there is 3 mins left and no one is talking AAHHHHHH |
| <CiprianoGaribay> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 15:05) congress is |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 15:07) For the record, I have voted on both sets of resolutions, by use of the Comment Submission Form. |
| <JoannaLane> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 15:07) good idea judith, but he didnt read the resolution and i missed it |
| <JoannaLane> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 15:08) what resolution? |
| <DenaWhitebirch> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 15:08) They haven't mentioned any of the comments via submission form today, have they? |
| <Leah2> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 15:08) Judith, I did too |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 15:09) John, fyi, there are two sets of resolutions that a number of us have voted on by using the online comments form. We have not been counted. |
| <Leah2> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 15:09) Names council next? |
| <RobJuneau> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 15:09) Where can I find what my connection trouble prevented me from learning about today's stuff? |
| <JohnBerryhill> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 15:09) oh, really, what have we been voting on? |
| <CiprianoGaribay> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 15:10) Rev. Jesse Jackson is outside marching in opposition to the vote.....phrasing was confusing |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 15:10) Whether to postpone the new TLD decision until (a) the new board members are seated and (b) until the applicants have had a chance to respond to the Staff Report. |
| <KristyMcKee> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 15:10) What time does the next meeting start? |
| <JohnBerryhill> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 15:10) oh, okay, well, I'm all in favor of that |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 15:11) And whether to remove the board squatters now, or wait a year (CDT's Davidson made this proposal. It passed.() |
| <Leah2> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 15:11) John, there have been resolutions regarding whether TLD apps should be allowed to respond before decisions are made |
| <JohnBerryhill> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 15:11) where is everyone, are they on break? |
| <DenaWhitebirch> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 15:12) I think this is a one hour break. |
| <Leah2> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 15:12) yeah, lunch |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 15:12) They just broke for lunch. I'm disgusted. |
| <KristyMcKee> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 15:12) That and hungry -- see you in an hour |
| <JohnBerryhill> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 15:12) oh, okay, I'm getting a smoke... so are the board squatters in for a year or not? |
| <RobJuneau> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 15:12) not sure |
| <JoannaLane> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 15:13) i am not about anything...the feed is so poor |
| <JoannaLane> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 15:13) sure |
| <Leah2> (Tue, November 14, 2000 at 15:13) john, there has not been a vote. This was the GA. Next is names council |
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