Notes on the 9/21 Meeting

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I propose that those of us who are inclined to do so meet face to face to discuss our ideas, figure out a structure for the project, and divide up tasks. I think a little central planning and some commitment to getting individual pieces of the project done will go a long way. To get the ball rolling, I propose that we meet at 3:00 on Thursday afternoon in the first floor of the Hark. Does that time work for people who are interested? If not, let's start posting some alternative times/places that will work for the greatest number of people. Obviously, those of us who don't want to meet in person should feel free to ignore this whole section. --Josh

  • i'm there. --crn
  • works for me. --Brianna MacDonald 12:46, 19 September 2006 (EDT)
  • I'd like to invite Dean Kagan to this meeting. Objections? --Kwan Bul 12:55, 19 September 2006 (EDT)
  • I think we might want to hold off on inviting the Dean until we've had a chance to talk and develop a strategy and/or our arguments/counter-arguments for the pass/fail option. Other thoughts? --Brianna MacDonald 13:19, 19 September 2006 (EDT)
  • I agree with Brie.--Josh
  • I'm thinking maybe we should send an email to the class about this meeting in case there are people out there who either a) want to be involved but haven't been checking this page or b) want to be involved but can't make the meeting and want to add their two cents before we get together. Thoughts? - Brie --128.103.7.38 21:59, 19 September 2006 (EDT)
  • I agree. Do you want to draft it? --Josh
  • Hi Everyone. Potential information for the Th. 9/21 meeting: I spoke w/ Bob Bordone about the Negotiation Workshop P/F option. He said that it was implemented prior to his arrival, so he did not know all of the specifics. However, he believed that the premises on which it relied included: 1) The fact that profs wanted to encourage students to try different experiences, expand their horizons beyond their comfort zone, and learn something new; 2) The fact that it was intended to be a collaborative learning environment, and forcing a level of competitiveness among the students would detract from that atmosphere; 3) The nature of material was most suited to learning in a non-competitive environment. The same arguments could certainly be made w/ regard to CyberOne. I realize that some people who wanted to take the course for a grade were concerned that the bell curve would have to be maintained w/in that group. In Negotiation, they avoid that problem by having small groups; since each prof is responsible for grading fewer than 30 students, the curve requirement does not apply. I believe that our CyberOne course is larger than 30 students, so that could be an issue. However, one possible solution: Bob mentioned that he gives everyone in his Negotiation section a grade, b/c he does not know which students elect the P/F option. Of course, if a student has chosen P/F, the P simply shows up on his/her transcript rather than a grade. If Professor Nesson gave everyone in the course a grade, and the grades simply became "P"s for students who had elected the P/F option, the worry about the competitiveness w/in a small group would be eliminated. Thoughts/comments/questions?? Hope this is useful. - Alison Healey
  • Hey everyone, I'm not able to make the meeting today because of a class conflict (Corp. Law Seminar). But I would like to add my support having a Pass/Fail option. I think that removing grade incentives will help us accomplish the goals of the glass more efficiently. Let me know how the meeting goes and if there's anything I can help out with later. Thanks. --Darren