Cybertrial transcript
Note: This needs to be cleaned up.....
[12:28] Johnny99 Gumshoe is Online [12:37] Susanna Flanagan: hm [12:37] babbler2.22: TC [12:37] Krikra McMillan: pack lieber erst aus [12:38] Susanna Flanagan: sind ja schon drei ausgepackt [12:38] babbler2.22: three are already unpacked [12:38] Susanna Flanagan: soll ich noch mehr machen? [12:38] babbler2.22: am I to make still more? [12:38] Susanna Flanagan: vielleicht kommt daher der fehler [12:38] You shout: The Josh Wolf mock trial is beginning in the Courtroom area in 20 minutes. If you'd like to attend and perhaps be a juror, please join us at the courtroom. (North side of the island) [12:38] babbler2.22: perhaps therefore the error comes [12:38] Ulysses Korobase: /next [12:38] Yngwie Yoshikawa: hi Jwolf [12:39] Jwolf Writer: hi yngwie [12:39] Ulysses Korobase: Hi Josh. [12:39] Jwolf Writer: hello Ulysses [12:39] Inferno Cullen shouts: What is the Trial for? [12:40] Yngwie Yoshikawa: /shout It is about freedom of speech and criminal prosecutions [12:42] Yngwie Yoshikawa: the judge is already asleep [12:43] You: Hi Zeus. [12:43] Zeus Papp: Hi there [12:43] You: Are you here to watch the trial? [12:43] Sorek Tomsen is Online [12:43] Zeus Papp: Sounds interesting [12:44] You: Zeus, would you like to be an alternate juror? [12:44] Zeus Papp: I only have 10 minutes - will that be OK? [12:44] *Pose Ball- Man Sitting: Lilia Lamatia, say 'Hide' to hide me, or 'Show' to make me show. Or just right-click and sit on me to use me. [12:45] Zeus Papp: where do I sit? [12:46] You: If you only have 10 minutes, that won't be enough. So you can take a seat in the gallery, the benches behind the courtroom. Thanks. [12:46] Jahn Writer: It's not a big deal, but I'm still a "member" [12:47] Eon Berkman is Offline [12:47] You: I just tried to change that. I'm not sure why it won't change. [12:47] Jahn Writer: Very weird [12:47] Jahn Writer: I could try leaving and re-joining? [12:47] You: I guess. [12:47] Jahn Writer: You never know [12:48] You: ok, let me invite you again. [12:48] Aphilo Aarde is Online [12:48] *Pose Ball- Man Sitting: Lilia Lamatia, say 'Hide' to hide me, or 'Show' to make me show. Or just right-click and sit on me to use me. [12:48] Draxtor Despres: rebecca, hi, where shall i sit? [12:49] You: Draxtor and Aphilo, you can take seats in the jury box. [12:49] Aphilo Aarde: Hi, thanks. [12:49] Draxtor Despres: thanks [12:49] Draxtor Despres: hi aphilo [12:49] Jahn Writer: Excellent [12:50] Aphilo Aarde: Hi Draxtor, How are things? [12:50] Yngwie Yoshikawa: the clerk is drunk [12:50] Draxtor Despres: good...and late..i am in Europe [12:50] Draxtor Despres: first time juror [12:50] Draxtor Despres: and u? [12:50] Aphilo Aarde: Me too, - where in Europe? I'm in Pennsylvania. [12:51] Draxtor Despres: germany [12:51] Draxtor Despres: penn is in europe? [12:51] Draxtor Despres: :) [12:51] Eon Berkman is Online [12:52] Aphilo Aarde: Hello, Judge Eon. [12:52] Jahn Writer: Hello. I'm the imposter, I suppose [12:52] Eon Berkman: hello all [12:52] Eon Berkman: pleased to be here [12:53] Eon Berkman: mr. clerk, do we have a report on our jurors [12:53] Eon Berkman: excuse me, bailiff, do we have a report on jurors [12:53] You: no [12:54] You: Hey Parmesan, please take a seat in the jury box. [12:54] You: Thanks for coming. [12:55] Aphilo Aarde: Hi Parmesan, sandi! [12:55] Parmesan Eggplant: Hi all [12:55] Sandi Capalini: hi [12:55] You: Sandi, are you available to be a juror? If so, please stay right where you are! [12:55] You: Hey BadenBaden, thanks for coming. [12:56] You: Please have a seat in the jury box. [12:56] BadenBaden Khan: hi becca [12:56] Sandi Capalini: yes [12:57] Sandi Capalini: ok [12:57] Sandi Capalini: ich hör nichts [12:57] Aphilo Aarde: Hi BadenBaden [12:57] BadenBaden Khan: hey aphilo, all [12:58] You: Hi Cally. [12:58] You: Are you here to watch the trial? [12:58] There is no suitable surface to sit on, try another spot. [12:58] Cally Zabelin: I didn't know it was one [12:59] No room to sit here, try another spot. [12:59] Jwolf Writer: hi cally [12:59] There is no suitable surface to sit on, try another spot. [12:59] Jwolf Writer: it should be an interesting trial [13:00] Sycamore Rousselot: Avatars of the jury, court is now in session, pelase come to order. [13:00] Sycamore Rousselot: following judge Nesson's remarks we will hear opening statements [13:00] Eon Berkman: welcom [13:00] Sycamore Rousselot: first from the prosecution, and then from the defense [13:01] Eon Berkman: this is the case of United States of America v. Josh Wolf [13:01] Eon Berkman: is the jury ready [13:01] Inferno Cullen shouts: WHO THE HELL DID THAT! [13:01] Draxtor Despres: yes [13:01] Aphilo Aarde: Yes [13:01] Parmesan Eggplant: yes [13:01] Eon Berkman: are counsel for the prosecution ready [13:02] Ulysses Korobase: Yes, your honor. [13:02] Eon Berkman: are counsel for the defense ready [13:02] Lilia Lamatia: yes [13:02] Eon Berkman: then let us proceed with opening statements [13:02] Eon Berkman: bailiff, please proceed [13:02] Sycamore Rousselot: , please click play on your music tab when it appears [13:03] Ulysses Korobase: Thank you. [13:03] Draxtor Despres: i dont see one [13:03] Ulysses Korobase: Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, my name is Ulysses Korobase, and I represent the United States government in this matter [13:03] You: (it shoudl be there now. jurors please let us know if you don't see the music tab at the bottom of your screen) [13:03] Ulysses Korobase: The foundation for this case lies in the events that took place on July 8th, 2005. The following facts are uncontested. On July 8th over one hundred people marched through the streets of San Francisco in protest of the G8 Summit, which was taking place over four thousand miles away in Perthshire, Scotland. The San Francisco protesters had no permits and never applied for them, even though permits are required for all lawful demonstrations. Most of the protesters were members of one or more anarchist groups. Some of these groups have a documented history of violence and vandalism [13:04] Ulysses Korobase: In the evening, police officers began receiving reports of vandalism and threats against citizens. Officers were dispatched to respond. The chain of events that followed included the vandalism of private property, damage to a police car, and attacks on police officers, one of whom was hospitalized after being struck on the head. The government does not allege that Josh Wolf is responsible for these acts. However, Josh Wolf was present for a large part of the day and filmed many of the events that transpired. Wolf posted an edited version of what he filmed on his website. The video was entitled âAllEmpiresMustFall.â [13:04] Ulysses Korobase: The video includes scenes of a police officer on the ground attempting to make an arrest while surrounded by a group of taunting protesters. During the confrontation, one of the protesters strikes the officer with a stick. The face of the attacker is not visible on the edited version of the film. It is unclear what other scenes have been deleted from the unedited film, which may contain important evidence of criminal acts. In investigating these crimes, the government subpoenaed Wolfâs unedited videotapes. Wolf refused to turn over the tapes and was jailed for contempt of court. He is still being held. [13:05] Ulysses Korobase: This case is about the scope of government authority to investigate and prevent crime. You will be asked to make an important decision regarding the proper balance between a journalistâs interest in keeping information secret and the governmentâs obligation to provide for the safety of the citizenry. [13:05] Ulysses Korobase: In order to protect the life, liberty, and property of all United States citizens, the government has been given certain police powers, including the power to subpoena materials that might contain evidence of a crime. When the crime involves damage to property, violence, or the threat of violence, this subpoena power properly extends to journalistic sources of evidence, including the videos taken by Josh Wolf. To hold otherwise would jeopardize the governmentâs ability to fulfill its obligation to provide for the public safety. The government must be able to protect our rights, as citizens, even where the evidence needed to convict the perpetrator of a crime is in the hands of a journalist. [13:05] Noa Chantilly: hi [13:06] Ulysses Korobase: Thank you. [13:06] Sycamore Rousselot: Defense, opening statment? [13:06] Lilia Lamatia: Josh Wolf, a 24-year-old journalist, has worked to build an award-winning career of honest journalism and revolutionary reporting. But Josh hasnât been able to report on anything for 195 days. Josh sits in a 6 foot by 7 foot cell, charged with no crime, being unlawfully held under federal contempt charges. The evidence will show that the police are investigating no crimes, that the federal government has no standing to be involved in this case, and that the government has at no point had justification to put Josh in jail. The evidence will show that Josh has never hesitated to cooperate with the government, but that he believes nothing is worth giving up the freedom of journalists to report the news to the public â freedom to report without being coerced to turn over unpopular sources, without being forced to give up his journalistic privilege, and without suffering the torture that is sitting in a jail cell even though youâve committed no crime. [13:07] Lilia Lamatia: On July 8, 2006, after working hard to establish the trust of the anti-war community, Josh arrived to film a protest march against the G8 Summit. During the day Josh filmed the protesters â anti-capitalists protesting in the streets of San Franciscoâs Mission. The police directed protesters to the sidewalks. The protesters listened. But in the evening as dusk fell, with the police tired and frustrated, and the protesters tired and resentful, order broke down. Protesters began setting off fireworks and dragging newsstands. Josh filmed all he could as officers arrived at the scene. He filmed the officers as they approached a young man, as Officer Wolf struggled to restrain him, amidst cries of âGet off him, youâre choking him!â and âPolice brutality!â. [13:08] Sandi Capalini: iss nichts [13:08] Lilia Lamatia: In the days following the protest, the San Francisco Police Department brought local charges against the person suspected of placing the foam under the police car. The police brought in the FBI to extract information, but Joshâs video footage showed no police car on fire and no one setting a car on fire, just some smoke coming from a piece of foam. Josh had chosen to tape Officer Wolf, and wasnât near Officer Shields. He helped the FBI as much as he could, but his footage just didnât prove their theory of a crime. [13:08] Lilia Lamatia: So why are we here? The federal government would like to know the identities of the protestors at the anarchist rally. But as helpful as that information might be, Josh cannot be forced to release his film. For the same reason Josh was willing to cooperate with the FBI and show his footage to the judge. For the same reason these anarchist groups allowed him to film their protests in the first place. For the same reason Josh was awarded Journalist of the Year from the Society of Professional Journalists. [13:08] Lilia Lamatia: Josh is a good journalist. He knows that only by keeping the confidences of his sources will he be allowed to bring their story to the public. He saw the chilling effect the subpoena alone had on his relationships â anti-war groups shut their doors, limited his access to protests and kept him out of demonstrations. Josh could not let all he had worked for, the trust that other journalists like him have slowly built, be shut down by a government with no jurisdiction, no crime, and no case. [13:09] Lilia Lamatia: So he continues to sit in his cell. Should he have been put there? No. Should he still be there? Absolutely not. The government has no compelling reason for keeping him, and you will see that today, without a doubt. [13:09] Lilia Lamatia: thank you. [13:09] Sycamore Rousselot: Avatars of the jury, the witnesses have been sworn previously, and remain under oath. [13:09] Sycamore Rousselot: Prosecution, please call your first witness [13:10] Eon Berkman: members of the jury [13:10] Sycamore Rousselot: Judge nesson has some remarks first [13:10] Eon Berkman: let me describe what you will need to decide [13:10] Eon Berkman: , after you hear the evidence you will be asked to answer a series of questions. First: [13:10] Eon Berkman: Is there a protectble first amendment interest in this case? [13:11] Eon Berkman: If you answer yes to question #1, then you must decide whether the Stateâs interest in investigating and prosecuting crimes initially outweighed mr. wolfâs first amendment interest in not surrendering the source material. [13:11] Eon Berkman: If yes to this question, then you must decide whether the Stateâs interest in investigating and prosecuting crimes still outweighs the first amendment interest in not surrendering the source material? [13:11] Eon Berkman: let us proceed [13:11] Sycamore Rousselot: Prosecution, please call your first witness. [13:12] Ulysses Korobase: The prosecution calls our first witness, Assistant United States Attorney, Jeff Finnegan. [13:12] Inferno Cullen is Online [13:13] Ulysses Korobase: Mr. Finnegan, what is your occupation? [13:13] Yngwie Yoshikawa: I am an assistant us attorney in the criminal division [13:13] Ulysses Korobase: And what do your duties in that role consist of? [13:14] Yngwie Yoshikawa: I investigate and prosecute a range of cirminal offesnse [13:14] Yngwie Yoshikawa: such as violent crimes and destruction of property [13:14] Ulysses Korobase: How did you become involved in this case? [13:14] Yngwie Yoshikawa: The FBI contacted our office [13:14] Yngwie Yoshikawa: because they had evidence of an assult [13:14] Yngwie Yoshikawa: I personally became involved b/c of my experience with such matters [13:15] Ulysses Korobase: Did the FBI provide you with any information about what had occurred on the day of July 8th in San Francisco? [13:15] Yngwie Yoshikawa: Yes, they did. [13:15] Ulysses Korobase: there anything in that information of particular concern to you? If so, what was it? [13:15] Yngwie Yoshikawa: Yes. There were several police reports which described acts of vandalism against private and public property, including police vehicles, and there were also reports of attacks on police officers. [13:16] Yngwie Yoshikawa: One officer, in particular, Officer Shields, was struck in the head from behind with a blunt object and had to be hospitalized. [13:16] Ulysses Korobase: As part of your investigation did you look at videos taken during that day? And, if so, what was the reason? [13:16] Lilia Lamatia: objection. leading question [13:16] Ulysses Korobase: not leading, your honor [13:16] Eon Berkman: overruled [13:16] Eon Berkman: continue [13:17] Yngwie Yoshikawa: Yes, we always try to obtain video evidence [13:17] Yngwie Yoshikawa: if available, we examined as many videos as we had access to, but there wasn't much [13:17] Yngwie Yoshikawa: vidoes are particularly helpful in identifying perpetrators [13:17] Ulysses Korobase: What do you use these videos for? [13:18] Yngwie Yoshikawa: often eye-witness testimony is confused, especially when the situation is chaotic [13:18] Yngwie Yoshikawa: cameras don't have faulty memories or perceptual difficulties [13:18] Yngwie Yoshikawa: and they can be examined for authenticity by experts [13:18] Yngwie Yoshikawa: still images can be used [13:19] Ulysses Korobase: Did you look at Josh Wolf's video as part of your investigation? [13:19] Yngwie Yoshikawa: yes, we tried to gleen the identity of the perpetrator form that video, [13:19] Yngwie Yoshikawa: but unfortunately we learned it had been edited [13:19] Yngwie Yoshikawa: and the information we wanted was not in the version that was released to the public [13:19] Ulysses Korobase: So there were gaps in the video? [13:20] Yngwie Yoshikawa: yes [13:20] Nimue Soderstrom: Tach auch [13:20] Lilia Lamatia: objection [13:20] Ulysses Korobase: And what did you think these gaps might contain? [13:20] Lilia Lamatia: speculation [13:20] Eon Berkman: sustained [13:20] Yngwie Yoshikawa: based on a parallel analysis of the police statements and the video that was released [13:20] Ulysses Korobase: Let me ask the question another way. [13:20] Yngwie Yoshikawa: we think it might show the identity of the assailant [13:20] Nimue Soderstrom: war so!Du bist aber auch schikc. die streifen, super. auch die haarfarbe [13:20] Lilia Lamatia: objection [13:20] Lilia Lamatia: speculation [13:20] Ulysses Korobase: Ok, I will ask another question [13:20] Lilia Lamatia: move to strike the witnesses statement [13:21] Eon Berkman: stricken [13:21] Ulysses Korobase: Did the portions of the video taht you did see lead you to think there might be important evidence on the unedited video? [13:21] Yngwie Yoshikawa: yes it did [13:21] Lilia Lamatia: objection leding [13:21] Lilia Lamatia: leading [13:21] Christin Korhonen: tanasha sit by me [13:22] Eon Berkman: overruled, let's get to the meat of this [13:22] Nimue Soderstrom: wie geht das [13:22] Tanasha Mills: shh [13:22] Yngwie Yoshikawa: based on correlation betwenn testimony from officers on the scene [13:22] Ulysses Korobase: What in particular where you interested in learning from Wolf's unedited video? [13:22] Yngwie Yoshikawa: and scenes that were in the released video [13:22] Yngwie Yoshikawa: we believe that the unedited video may contain images of the assault described in the police statements [13:22] Lilia Lamatia: objection [13:22] Lilia Lamatia: speculation [13:23] Yngwie Yoshikawa: but there is no way to know for sure without seeing the cut content [13:23] Eon Berkman: overruled, state of mind [13:23] Noa Chantilly: hey, lass und über IM reden [13:23] Ulysses Korobase: And was the other evidence that you had at that time sufficient to determine the identity of the assailant? [13:24] Yngwie Yoshikawa: the other evidence gave us reason to believe that a violent crime had been comitted [13:24] Yngwie Yoshikawa: but was not sufficient to identify the perpetrator [13:24] Yngwie Yoshikawa: the officer was struck from behind [13:24] Ulysses Korobase: Thank you, Mr. Finnegan. [13:24] Ulysses Korobase: We have entered into evidence some still shots of the video, of which you have already said you are familiar. I am going to ask you to please describe each of the images for the jury. Is that ok? [13:24] Yngwie Yoshikawa: yes [13:25] Ulysses Korobase: Jury members, please direct your attention to the screen in front of you. [13:25] Ulysses Korobase: Mr. Finnegan, please describe the first slide. [13:25] Yngwie Yoshikawa: this is the title frame from the video that Mr. Wolf released to the public [13:26] Ulysses Korobase: Did the information in this image in anyway influence your decision to subpoena Josh Wolf? [13:26] Yngwie Yoshikawa: No, it did not. [13:26] Ulysses Korobase: Did the phrase "AllEmpiresMustFall" in any way influence your decision? [13:27] Yngwie Yoshikawa: No, to tell the truth I'm not certain what that phrase means in this context [13:27] Lilia Lamatia: motion, move to strike the slide as irrelelvant. the witness had admitted as much. [13:27] Sycamore Rousselot: Jurors, if you are having difficulty seeing the slides, you may move closer. [13:27] Eon Berkman: the slide seems useful for setting the scene, please proceed [13:27] Ulysses Korobase: I will move to the next slide, your honor. [13:28] Eon Berkman: please do [13:28] Ulysses Korobase: what does this slide show? [13:28] Yngwie Yoshikawa: This shows one of the protestors and is a good example of the tenor of the situation that evening. [13:28] Eon Berkman: members of the jury, can you all see the slide? [13:28] Parmesan Eggplant: not very clearly [13:28] Draxtor Despres: yes i can [13:28] Aphilo Aarde: From up close, yes. [13:29] Draxtor Despres: somewhat out of focus [13:29] BadenBaden Khan: yes [13:29] Eon Berkman: the resolution appears to be low. do your best to see it. [13:29] Parmesan Eggplant: is there any way to enlarge the slides [13:29] Ulysses Korobase: what does this slide show, Mr. Finnegan? [13:30] Yngwie Yoshikawa: This shows protestors marching through the streets and lighting off fireworks. [13:30] Ulysses Korobase: and this one? [13:30] Yngwie Yoshikawa: This shows the chaos created by a group of protestors as the situation started to deteriorate. You can see that traffic has been obstructed by newspaper boxes that protestors dragged into the streets. [13:31] Ulysses Korobase: and this one? [13:31] Yngwie Yoshikawa: one example of vandalism, a protestor shot a paintball at a storefront [13:31] Sorek Tomsen is Offline [13:31] Ulysses Korobase: and this slide, Mr. Finnegan? [13:32] Yngwie Yoshikawa: This shows a police officer attempting to subdue a violent protestor. He is surrounded and is being taunted by masked protestors. The video shows one of the protestors striking him with a long pole-like object or stick. [13:32] Yngwie Yoshikawa: These all show the chaos [13:32] Yngwie Yoshikawa: of the situation [13:32] Yngwie Yoshikawa: and what the police were trying to respond to [13:32] Yngwie Yoshikawa: and why eye witness testimony may be confused [13:32] Yngwie Yoshikawa: and not as reliable as video [13:32] Ulysses Korobase: Thank you very much, Mr. Finnegan. The state has no further questions at this time. [13:32] Eon Berkman: mr. finnegan, just so that i am clear, these slides are individual images drawn from the defendant's video? [13:33] Yngwie Yoshikawa: yes, that is correct your honor [13:33] Eon Berkman: members of the jury, would you please return to the jury box [13:33] Sycamore Rousselot: Defense, cross examination? [13:34] Sycamore Rousselot: Defense, cross examination? [13:34] Lilia Lamatia: Mr. Finnegan, Did Josh commit any crime on July 8, 2005? [13:34] Yngwie Yoshikawa: I have no knowledge as to whether he did or not. I have no evidence that he did. [13:34] Lilia Lamatia: No evidence at all? [13:34] Yngwie Yoshikawa: of what? [13:34] Nimue Soderstrom: wie sehe ich dich von nahem [13:35] Lilia Lamatia: of josh breaking the law in any way. [13:35] Yngwie Yoshikawa: not on that date [13:35] Lilia Lamatia: thank you. and that is the date that you have been testifying about so far? [13:35] Nimue Soderstrom: haha [13:35] Yngwie Yoshikawa: the date of the protest [13:35] Lilia Lamatia: alright. [13:36] Lilia Lamatia: and how many days have you kept josh in prison? [13:36] Yngwie Yoshikawa: I haven't kept Josh in prison [13:36] Yngwie Yoshikawa: he was put there by court order [13:36] Nimue Soderstrom: das war schon am anfang so? hast du dir was gekauft? [13:36] Lilia Lamatia: how many days has josh been there? and please just a number. [13:37] Yngwie Yoshikawa: In prison? [13:37] Lilia Lamatia: yes, that was my question. [13:37] Yngwie Yoshikawa: Well, as I understand it, the court has held him for over 200 days [13:37] PSL HUD Update Server: A more recent version is available. Please detatch your old HUD and attach the new one we have just given you. [13:37] Lilia Lamatia: 225 to be exact. [13:37] PSL HUD Update Server gave you Perfect SL HUD 1.91 (BETA) (wear me). [13:37] Yngwie Yoshikawa: yes [13:38] PSL Matchmaker HUD 1.86 (BETA): Translating from en to de ... [13:38] Lilia Lamatia: now, you indicated that the FBI asked for your help is that correct?
[13:38] PSL Translator: Lilia Lamatia:Contents |
[13:38] Yngwie Yoshikawa: yes
[13:38] PSL Translator: Yngwie Yoshikawa:[13:38] Lilia Lamatia: does the FBI often investigate alleged assaults such as these?
[13:38] PSL Translator: Lilia Lamatia:[13:38] Nimue Soderstrom: bitte recht freundlich
[13:38] PSL Translator: Nimue Soderstrom:[13:39] Ulysses Korobase: objection, relevancce
[13:39] PSL Translator: Ulysses Korobase:[13:39] Eon Berkman: overruled
[13:39] PSL Translator: Eon Berkman:[13:39] Yngwie Yoshikawa: the FBI is federal law enforcement, they investigate domestic crimes that congress has outlawed
[13:39] PSL Translator: Yngwie Yoshikawa:[13:39] Nimue Soderstrom: schmeissen die eijnen raus,´wenn man das gelände betritt?
[13:39] PSL Translator: Nimue Soderstrom:[13:40] Lilia Lamatia: but it would be more common for a state authority to investigate an assault such as the one that is allged to have occurred, is that not correct?
[13:40] PSL Translator: Lilia Lamatia:[13:40] PSL Matchmaker HUD 1.86 (BETA): Stopped translating [13:40] Nimue Soderstrom: sorry [13:40] Yngwie Yoshikawa: yes, state authorities often investigate crimes of violence [13:41] Lilia Lamatia: now, i'd like to talk about your investigation a little bit more. [13:41] Yngwie Yoshikawa: please [13:41] Eon Berkman: just questions please [13:41] Lilia Lamatia: did josh offer to show theouttakes to anyone that you know of? [13:41] *Pose Ball- Man Sitting: Nimue Soderstrom, say 'Hide' to hide me, or 'Show' to make me show. Or just right-click and sit on me to use me. [13:42] Lilia Lamatia: yes or no is fine [13:42] Yngwie Yoshikawa: yes [13:42] Lilia Lamatia: to whom [13:42] Lilia Lamatia: ? [13:42] Yngwie Yoshikawa: the judge [13:42] Lilia Lamatia: and he offered to show the outtakes to the judge, so tha the judge could see what theycontained? [13:42] Lilia Lamatia: yes or no. [13:43] Yngwie Yoshikawa: yes [13:43] Lilia Lamatia: and, in your opinion the judge would have been honest and told you about any evidence relevant to the alleged crimes? [13:44] Yngwie Yoshikawa: I think the judge would be honest, but I think he would also be acting outside the authority he is given by the relevant law [13:44] Draxtor Despres: hey Niume [13:44] Draxtor Despres: kannst du bitte aus dem Gerichtsaal gehen? [13:44] Draxtor Despres: oder auf die Zuschauerseite? [13:44] Lilia Lamatia: could you tell me what other witnesses you have interviewed about the alleged crimes? [13:44] Yngwie Yoshikawa: as a legal adjudicator, the judge is not qualified to make that determination which is the province of the fact-finder [13:45] Draxtor Despres: bitte! das hier ist eine ernste Sache, und viele LEute wollen das filmen, ok? [13:45] Yngwie Yoshikawa: yes [13:45] Draxtor Despres: bitte auf die Zuschauerbaenke, Niume [13:45] Yngwie Yoshikawa: Officer Shields made a statement [13:45] Draxtor Despres: danke! [13:45] Lilia Lamatia: if you could keep t answering the qustions that have been asked, it would be appreciatd. [13:45] Nimue Soderstrom: sorry neu hier [13:45] Lilia Lamatia: OK, so you interviwed officer shields. anyone else? [13:45] Draxtor Despres: kein problem! [13:45] Draxtor Despres: schau in deinen privat chat rein [13:45] Yngwie Yoshikawa: Another, officer Wolf (no relation, as I understand) made a statement [13:45] Lilia Lamatia: I see, two officers. Did you interview anyone who was at the rally? [13:46] Yngwie Yoshikawa: several officers made statements [13:46] Yngwie Yoshikawa: yes [13:46] Yngwie Yoshikawa: the officers were at the rally [13:46] Johnny99 Gumshoe is Offline [13:46] Lilia Lamatia: so you only interviewed law enforcement, isthat correct? [13:46] Yngwie Yoshikawa: yes [13:47] Johnny99 Gumshoe is Online [13:47] Lilia Lamatia: but other participants had been identified, andhad taken part in california state law enforcement proceedings, is that correct? [13:47] Yngwie Yoshikawa: yes [13:47] Lilia Lamatia: i see. [13:48] Lilia Lamatia: one further question. [13:48] Eon Berkman: it is irrelevant what you see [13:48] Lilia Lamatia: you are aware that if this alleged "crime" was being by state authorities, Josh would be able to invoke reporters' privilege under state law? [13:48] Eon Berkman: just questions please [13:48] Ulysses Korobase: objection, scope [13:48] Yngwie Yoshikawa: I don't understand the question, you mean prosecuted by? [13:48] Lilia Lamatia: are you aware that if this alleged crime had been being investigated by state law enforcement authorities, Josh would have been able to invoke reporters' privilege under state law? [13:49] Ulysses Korobase: objection, scope, your honor [13:49] Eon Berkman: sustained [13:49] Yngwie Yoshikawa: I have no opinion, I am a federal practictioner [13:49] Kennethh Yamdev is Online [13:49] Eon Berkman: continue [13:49] Lilia Lamatia: I asked about your awareness of the law, not about your opinion. no further questions. [13:49] Sycamore Rousselot: Thank you Mr Finnegan, you may stand down. Defense, please call your witness. [13:50] Yngwie Yoshikawa: /waves [13:50] Lilia Lamatia: may it please the court, the defense calls josh wolf. [13:50] Sycamore Rousselot: This witness has also been sworn, and is under oath. [13:51] Nimue Soderstrom: Looking good! [13:51] Lilia Lamatia: For the record, could you please state your name and occupation? [13:51] Jahn Writer: My name is Josh Wolf. I am an independent journalist and filmmaker. [13:51] Nameless Amat shouts: cake!!!! [13:51] Lilia Lamatia: What kind of work do you do as a journalist? [13:51] Nimue Soderstrom: Hey! [13:51] Eon Berkman: order in the court please [13:51] Avatar ejected. [13:51] Jahn Writer: I contribute both written and video reports for my blog and Indymedia, I have written for the Haight Ashbury Beat, and Iâve worked or the Peralta Community College Districtâs peralta T.V. [13:52] Vodkin Amat: Sorry [13:52] Lilia Lamatia: Impressive. We've been talking a lot about the events of July 8, 2005. Could you tell the jury what you were doing on July 8, 2005? [13:52] Eon Berkman: please refrain from comment such as "impressive" [13:53] Eon Berkman: your are not the witness [13:53] Jahn Writer: I was in the Mission District of San Francisco to film a protest march against the G8 Summit in Scotland. [13:53] Lilia Lamatia: Could you tell a little bit more about what it means to film such an event? [13:54] Ulysses Korobase: objection, clarity [13:54] Jahn Writer: I try to capture the spirit of the event in a way that is understandable to the viewer, without taking an extreme amount of time to view [13:54] Ulysses Korobase: calls for a narative [13:54] Eon Berkman: overruled, i will let the witness answer [13:55] Lilia Lamatia: How do you get access to the events that you film? [13:56] Jahn Writer: This particular event was in a public place, but I was able to get better coverage because of my trust relationships with the protestors [13:56] Lilia Lamatia: More generally speaking, how important are trust relationships in your line of work? [13:57] Jahn Writer: Without the trust of the subjects that I film, they don't tell me when they're planning events, they don't give me information about the events, and they don't speak to me candidly or allow me to film them to the full extent necessary to cover the event properly [13:57] Lilia Lamatia: What kinds of things would help to build or interfere with a relationship of trust? [13:58] Jahn Writer: They trust me because I have never given them a reason not to trust me. I have covered their events fairly in the past, and, for instance, have not given information about them to improper external sources [13:58] Jahn Writer: As is my journalistic duty [13:59] Lilia Lamatia: And your convictions about your journalistic duty explain why you have been in jail for over 200 days? [14:00] Jahn Writer: I am in jail because my journalistic duties seem to conflict with the court and the prosecution's view of their duties. But these principles are too important for me to abandon just because I'm being persecuted for them [14:00] Lilia Lamatia: so it's not because you wanted to hide evidence of a crime? [14:01] Ulysses Korobase: objection, opinion [14:01] Lilia Lamatia: state of mind [14:01] Eon Berkman: overruled, the witness may answer [14:01] Jahn Writer: There is no evidence of the crime. The video doesn't include the material the prosecution claims to be seeking [14:01] Lilia Lamatia: So why did you edit the videotapes? [14:02] Jahn Writer: Because no one wants to sit around and watch the unedited hours of video that I filmed. I edited the video to make it into a piece of effective journalism [14:03] Inferno Cullen is Offline [14:03] Lilia Lamatia: But you did offer to allow the judge to review those outtakes, in case there was any evidence relevant to the alleged crimes? [14:03] Jahn Writer: Yes [14:03] Lilia Lamatia: And is it your understanding that if the state had agreed to your offer, it would have been legal for the judge to do that? [14:03] Jahn Writer: Yes [14:04] Lilia Lamatia: why didn't you want to just show the outtakes to the prosecution? [14:04] Inferno Cullen is Online [14:04] Jahn Writer: I chose not to, which is my journalistic right and duty, to protect my sources and to protect my relationship with my sources [14:05] Jahn Writer: If I betrayed their confidence in that way, I wouldn't be able to cover their activities effectively anymore [14:05] Lilia Lamatia: and to protect your relationships, you've been willing to stay in jail for 225 days? [14:05] Aphilo Aarde is Offline [14:05] Jahn Writer: Yes. And I would stay as long as it would take [14:05] Lilia Lamatia: thank you. no further questions. [14:05] Sycamore Rousselot: Prosecution, cross examination please. [14:06] Aphilo Aarde is Online [14:06] Ulysses Korobase: Mr. Wolf, you mentioned your relationship of "trust" with the various groups. [14:06] Ulysses Korobase: How often do you associate with the people who were in your film? [14:07] Lilia Lamatia: objection, relevance [14:07] Eon Berkman: overruled [14:07] Jahn Writer: When they are participating in an event that I believe is newsworthy [14:07] Ulysses Korobase: How often is that, apprxomiately? [14:08] Jahn Writer: It's hard to say, given that there's not a schedule for these things. Maybe a handful of times, total [14:08] Ulysses Korobase: How well do you know the people who appeared in your film? [14:09] Jahn Writer: I've spoken to some of them, and I've never even met some of them. It varies. I know them primarily in my capacity as a journalist, if that's what you mean [14:09] Ulysses Korobase: Did you speak to all of these people prior trying to filming them? [14:09] Ulysses Korobase: On the day in question. [14:09] Jahn Writer: No. I'm also not required to [14:10] Ulysses Korobase: Thank you. So its fair to say that you did not speak with many, perhaps most of them? [14:10] Jahn Writer: There were a lot of people there. I spoke to the organizers of the event, and some others [14:11] Jahn Writer: Enough to have obtained their support in my efforts [14:11] Ulysses Korobase: Did you speak to the person who assaulted officer Shields? [14:11] Lilia Lamatia: objection [14:11] Eon Berkman: sustained [14:11] Ulysses Korobase: Did you make any promises to the people who you filmed? [14:12] Jahn Writer: What promises do you mean? [14:12] Ulysses Korobase: Did you promise them, all of them, to keep their identies confidential? [14:13] Inferno Cullen is Offline [14:13] Jahn Writer: Of course not. They knew that they were going to be filmed, and that I was going to distribute the film, and that means they could be recognized. [14:14] Jahn Writer: But my duty as a journalist requires me not to submit the video for in depth study for the purposes of their identification, for instance [14:14] Jahn Writer: And I don't need to promise to follow those duties for them to be binding on me [14:14] Ulysses Korobase: Which is probably why many of them chose to wear masks, correct? [14:14] Lilia Lamatia: objection [14:14] Lilia Lamatia: speculation [14:14] Eon Berkman: overruled [14:14] Jahn Writer: I don't know why they chose to wear masks [14:15] Ulysses Korobase: But couldn't you have included any images from the film that you chose? [14:15] Ulysses Korobase: In the edited version that you posted? [14:15] Jahn Writer: Yes. I could have [14:16] Ulysses Korobase: And they would have had no basis to object to this, correct? [14:17] Jahn Writer: Yes, but that isn't the point. There's a difference between things I'm legally allowed to do and things that my principles as a journalist allow me to do [14:17] Ulysses Korobase: But why was it such big deal to give the full video to the government, if you could have posted it yourself at any time? [14:17] Ulysses Korobase: Who was being harmed? [14:19] Jahn Writer: Again, you missed the same point. I had the legal right to do it, but it would have been wrong for me to do so. There was no reason to expose any of the protestors to undue attention and by so doing also harm my relationship with them [14:19] Rufus Alexandre shouts: if you carry on, you will be too [14:20] Ulysses Korobase: Moving on. You spoke about your "trust" relationship wtih the protestors, but why then should the government trust you to tell them if the video contains relevant evidence? [14:20] Jahn Writer: I offered the video to the judge so that he could make that decision [14:20] Ulysses Korobase: Does the judge have access to sophisticated video analysis technology used to make identifications? [14:21] Jahn Writer: He could have obtained the resources if necessary, I imagine [14:21] Ulysses Korobase: Are you qualified to decide the proper role of the judge in making these assessments? [14:21] Jahn Writer: But that is irrelevant to what the judge would have bene looking for [14:22] Ulysses Korobase: Thank you. Nothing further. [14:22] Sycamore Rousselot: The witness may stand down. [14:22] Sycamore Rousselot: Now we'll hear closing arguments. Prosecution, please proceed. [14:22] Ulysses Korobase: I request a 5 minute recess. [14:22] Eon Berkman: members of the jury [14:22] Lilia Lamatia: we are ready to proceed at any time, your honor. [14:23] Eon Berkman: before we hear closing arguments, are there questions you would like to ask [14:23] Draxtor Despres: no. [14:23] Parmesan Eggplant: no [14:23] Draxtor Despres: anybody else? [14:23] BadenBaden Khan: n [14:23] Aphilo Aarde: no [14:23] BadenBaden Khan: no [14:24] Eon Berkman: let us proceed then to closing argument [14:24] Aphilo Aarde accepted your inventory offer. [14:24] Eon Berkman: prosecution first [14:24] Ulysses Korobase: Ladies and gentlemen of the jury... [14:25] Ulysses Korobase: as you have seen, the government had a legitimate interest in investigating crimes that occurred during the protests. [14:25] Ulysses Korobase: In investigating these crimes, the government needs access to information. [14:26] Ulysses Korobase: Josh Wolf is asserting a right that no ordinary citizen has in determining what information should be disclosed pursuant to a valid court order. [14:27] Ulysses Korobase: The defense wants you to believe that Wolf's sources would be chilled. [14:27] Ulysses Korobase: Yet, this is not such a case. [14:27] Ulysses Korobase: As he admitted during cross examination, this was a public demonstration. [14:27] Ulysses Korobase: Everyone's identity was open. [14:27] Ulysses Korobase: Josh could have posted the entire video online if he so chose. [14:28] Ulysses Korobase: You have not been asked here to decide whether the judge is competent to make determinations of identity by viewing the video.... [14:28] Ulysses Korobase: although I would submit to you that he is not. [14:29] Ulysses Korobase: Regardless, this is a separate question of law outside the scope of these proceedings. [14:29] Ulysses Korobase: Why did Josh Wolf choose not to give the video to the prosecution? [14:29] Ulysses Korobase: Why should the government "trust" Wolf to make this assessment, given his relationship of trust with the protesters? [14:30] Ulysses Korobase: Please consider these questions as you make your final determination. [14:30] Ulysses Korobase: Thank you. [14:30] Sycamore Rousselot: Defense, closing argument? [14:30] Lilia Lamatia: yes your honor. [14:30] Lilia Lamatia: Ladies and gentlemen of the jury: [14:30] Lilia Lamatia: The prosecution admitted that their investigation to date has been scant. [14:30] Lilia Lamatia: Indeed, today the prosecution called a witness who did not witness any crime [14:30] Lilia Lamatia: showed slides involving police brutality by Officer Wolf, even though they claim to be investigating a crime against Officer Shields; [14:31] Lilia Lamatia: presented slides showing other irrelevant events; and, based on all that, they asked for speculation from their witness about video outtakes he hasn't seen. [14:31] Lilia Lamatia: All of this even though Josh was clear that the outtakes did not contain evidence of any crime, and even though he offered to show the entire outtakes to the judge to make clear that they involved no such crime. [14:31] Lilia Lamatia: Let's look at what is actually going on in this case. [14:31] Lilia Lamatia: Josh Wolf is a respected, lauded journalist who must, to preserve the confidentiality and freedom of journalism, be able to safeguard the unpublished notes and material that he did not broadcast. [14:31] Lilia Lamatia: Some suggest that Josh does not deserve the protections of other journalists. But they must acknowledge that our world is changing â the internet, as we all know well, has become a community unto itself. [14:31] Lilia Lamatia: To suggest that a journalist, collecting information and broadcasting events to the online community, should not be able to protect his sources simply because he does not have the resources and backing of a large network, is outmoded and closed-minded. [14:31] Lilia Lamatia: The protestors acted as Joshâs source for journalistic material, and it is this relationship that leads to Joshâs right to shield this information. [14:32] Lilia Lamatia: Josh was not a witness who accidentally caught a crime on film, he was a journalist doing a documentary on anti-globalization. He sought to continue his relationship with these groups to gain access to their events and planning going forward â access that few have, but access that greatly benefits the public understanding of such events. [14:32] Lilia Lamatia: From the beginning, Wolf cooperated with the police, offered to let the judge view the film, and consistently stated that nothing in his film had any relevance to the any crimes the police suggested had occurred. [14:32] Lilia Lamatia: But Josh should not have to face these pressures alone, he should not be coerced into naming protestors for political use, he should not be forced to become an extension of law enforcement simply because, after seven months, he can no longer stand the isolation and degradation of a damp, tiny jail cell. [14:32] Basic Chair: Right click me and choose 'Sit Here' to sit down [14:32] Lilia Lamatia: This is simply a federal attempt to usurp California Stateâs shield law â an attempt that, in itself, demonstrates the great need for the protection in the first place. [14:32] Lilia Lamatia: Although our governmentâs powers have expanded in light of 9/11 and the Patriot Act, we cannot let a shaky connection to a local case allow the federal government to insert themselves in the discussion and use their power and resources to coerce a journalist to hand over his sources. [14:32] Lilia Lamatia: If the government can force Josh to relinquish his footage, he will be succumbing to the federal governmentâs coercive power, acquiescing to the government in the face of an almost full year in jail, and acting at the might of federal and local government pressure. [14:32] Ulysses Korobase: objection, scope [14:33] Lilia Lamatia: . The government cannot have the ability to coerce journalists in this way. We ask you to release Josh from his unfounded, coercive jail stay, and protect the privilege of journalists to safeguard the trust crucial to activist reporting. [14:33] Lilia Lamatia: Thank you. [14:33] Eon Berkman: overruled [14:33] Sycamore Rousselot: The judge will now instruct the jury. [14:33] Eon Berkman: members of the jury [14:33] Eon Berkman: This is a dispute about josh wolfâs outtakes. He says there is nothing of interest in them. The govt says it needs to see them in order to see for itself. [14:34] Eon Berkman: You must determine whether that insistence, even to the point of rejecting submission of the issue to me, the judge, justifies keeping wolf in prison for over 200 days. [14:34] Eon Berkman: Should a citizen journalist such as wolf have a measure of protection against disclosing his outtakes? [14:34] Eon Berkman: Is there a point beyond which imprisonment forcing him to disclose becomes an abuse of the governmentâs power? [14:35] Eon Berkman: Has that point been reached? [14:35] Eon Berkman: Please retire now to consider your verdict. [14:35] Sycamore Rousselot: The jury needs a fore-avatar. Parmesan Eggplant, would you be willing? [14:35] Sycamore Rousselot: The bailiff will now direct the jury to deliberate. [14:35] You: I am the bailiff. [14:36] You: Please follow me, jurors. [14:37] You: ok, jury. [14:37] You: please just have a seat here and deliberate. [14:37] Aphilo Aarde: Are we sure we're out of radar's range? [14:37] You: You have up to half an hour for the deliberations. [14:37] You: yes, you are out of range. [14:37] You: I will let you know when you are running out of time. [14:37] Draxtor Despres: ok [14:37] Draxtor Despres: thanks rebecca [14:37] Aphilo Aarde: Thanks. [14:37] You: Parmesan, will you serve as foreperson of hte jury? [14:38] You: You will just tell hte court your decision. [14:38] Parmesan Eggplant: okay, what are my duties [14:38] You: And I will communicate with you by IM. [14:38] You: Can you also keep a transcript of your deliberations? [14:38] You: Just copy and paste to a notecard. [14:39] Parmesan Eggplant: don't really know how- anyone else capable? [14:39] You: Professor Moriarty will be filming the deliberations, so don't mind him. [14:39] You: (he can keep the transcript too, actually.) [14:39] You: OK, I'm getting out of your way. [14:39] You: IM me if you need anything. [14:39] Eon Berkman: are there points you would have made that were not made on your behalf [14:40] Jwolf Writer: I feel that Lilia Lamatia did a great job arguing the case that was before your court [14:40] Jwolf Writer: I feel that the case before your court was not the central issue of this legal ordeal though [14:41] Eon Berkman: such as [14:41] Jwolf Writer: The subpoena demanded my tape and ordered me to submit to testifying before the Federal Grand Jury [14:42] Eon Berkman: do others here have questions or observations? [14:42] Flight Band: All Go [14:42] Lilia Lamatia: I thought it was very smoothly and well run. I enjoyed taking part. [14:42] Ulysses Korobase: it was enjoyable, although the deck was stacked against us [14:43] Jahn Writer: Yeah. Having the truth on the other side is tough [14:43] Jwolf Writer: Unlike the deck I was dealt... LOL [14:43] Yngwie Yoshikawa: snap [14:43] Ulysses Korobase: Haha. We'll see how the verdict comes out. [14:43] You: Those of you who were watching, does anyone have an opinion about how you would vote in the case? [14:43] You: Alyce, perhaps? [14:43] You: Did either side convince you? [14:45] Eon Berkman: josh, what do you feel you gained by staying the course for so long? [14:46] Yngwie Yoshikawa: I think that the exclusion of the police statements was reverisble error [14:46] Jwolf Writer: Well, we had offered to provide the video in November after we lost our appeals [14:46] Jwolf Writer: Staying in since then proved that the government will eventually back down to something reasonable [14:46] You: but at what cost? [14:47] Eon Berkman: do you actually think the end position reached was reasonable? [14:47] Jwolf Writer: It was reasonable as there was nothing on the video of any significance [14:48] Eon Berkman: would they have agreed on any neutral third party arbiter and examiner [14:48] Jwolf Writer: It was not a reasonable demand that the grand jury has almost unyielding power to investigate rumors and speculation [14:48] Eon Berkman: the power of the grand jury is huge [14:48] Jwolf Writer: The power of the grand jury is huge and without any objective oversight or control [14:49] Eon Berkman: pretty much true [14:49] Jwolf Writer: it is a star chamber and the fact that it can imprison anyone to coerce them to submitting before it without anything to back it up is unconstitutional and undemocratic [14:49] Eon Berkman: the part of the case that seemed most abusive to me was the extreme reach of federal jurisdiction [14:50] Kennethh Yamdev is Offline [14:50] Jwolf Writer: The grand jury is granted that latitude [14:50] Yngwie Yoshikawa: thanks guys [14:50] Eon Berkman: what do you feel you learned by being confined? [14:51] Jwolf Writer: I learned a lot about how the due process promised in the constitution doesn't exist [14:52] Jwolf Writer: not so much for me as for everyone involved in the criminal justice system [14:52] Yngwie Yoshikawa: ok, I got some good snapshots [14:52] Yngwie Yoshikawa: you can move around [14:52] Eon Berkman: there is nothing like incarceration to make a civil libertarian [14:53] Eon Berkman: did you ever get a sense of why the govt was so insistent in not compromising? [14:55] Jwolf Writer: The magistrate judge said that basically they were using me to send an example to the public that you can't just spend 6 months in jail to avoid testifying and that the government will hold recalcitrant witnesses for the full 18 months allowable [14:55] You: I suspect htat is true. If they didn't actually hold people then contempt would not have nearly as much force. [14:56] Eon Berkman: that makes a sort of sense from their authoritarian point of view [14:56] Jahn Writer: Just not a rational one [14:56] *Pose Ball- Man Sitting: Lilia Lamatia, say 'Hide' to hide me, or 'Show' to make me show. Or just right-click and sit on me to use me. [14:57] You: Hey Jules. [14:57] Jules Mandelbrot: hello [14:57] Eon Berkman: have you received requests for speaking engagements to talk about your experience [14:57] Aphilo Aarde: Is she in your friends' list? [14:57] You: Hello jurors. [14:57] Parmesan Eggplant: Rebecca we are ready [14:57] You: Please return to thecourtroom. [14:58] You: We are ready to hear your verdict. [14:58] Jwolf Writer: Most likely [14:58] Jwolf Writer: but I need persepctive [14:58] You: DBrock, can you please join me in teh gallery? [14:58] You: The jury is returning. [14:59] Sycamore Rousselot: Court is in session, pelase come to order [14:59] Parmesan Eggplant: yes [14:59] Eon Berkman: please rise and state the jury's verdict [15:00] Parmesan Eggplant: first question - yes, there is a protectable first amendment interest [15:01] Parmesan Eggplant: second question - no, the Feds case did not outweigh Josh wolf's interests [15:01] Parmesan Eggplant: not sure about exact wording of third questions - but he has been in prison long enough [15:01] Nameless Amat: wtf is going on [15:01] Eon Berkman: thank you [15:01] You: Nameless, we are having atrial. [15:02] Eon Berkman: the court orders josh wolf RELEASED! [15:02] Nameless Amat: ok sooo? [15:02] Eon Berkman: jurors, thank you very much for your service and your judgment [15:02] You: Thanks you!!! [15:02] Sycamore Rousselot: The jury is now dismissed, and court is no longer in session. [15:02] Aphilo Aarde: You're welcome, and thank you. [15:03] Parmesan Eggplant: thank you, very interesting experience [15:03] Jwolf Writer: Thank you for having this everyone [15:03] BadenBaden Khan: thank you Rebecca, your Honor [15:03] Jwolf Writer: It was interesting to see myself on trial in Second Life [15:04] You: Hey Jules, Eon is my RL dad. [15:04] Jules Mandelbrot: oh. that's neat! [15:04] Parmesan Eggplant: what is the real life status? [15:04] You: He likes your name. [15:04] You: JWolf Writer is the real Josh Wolf! [15:05] You: He is not incarcerated any more. [15:05] Jwolf Writer: It's true [15:05] Jwolf Writer: I got out three weeks ago [15:05] Aphilo Aarde: Glad you are free. [15:05] Yngwie Yoshikawa is Offline [15:06] Jwolf Writer: thank you [15:06] Parmesan Eggplant: are you blogging about us? [15:07] Eon Berkman: thank you josh [15:07] Aphilo Aarde: How do things stand for you now? [15:07] Eon Berkman: good bye all [15:07] Eon Berkman is Offline [15:07] Aphilo Aarde: Good bye, Eon. Thank you. [15:07] Parmesan Eggplant: Bye Eon, thanks [15:07] You: Well, I thank you all. The lawyers and court officers are signing off now. We will let you all know when we have a machinima version of this that we will put on the web. [15:07] You: We intend to use it to publicize the issues in this case. [15:07] Aphilo Aarde: Thanks, Becca. And thanks for organizing this!
