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RE: [dvd-discuss] Slightly OT - Japanese copyrights
- To: "'dvd-discuss(at)cyber.law.harvard.edu'" <dvd-discuss(at)cyber.law.harvard.edu>
- Subject: RE: [dvd-discuss] Slightly OT - Japanese copyrights
- From: Richard Hartman <hartman(at)onetouch.com>
- Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2002 14:33:47 -0800
- Reply-to: dvd-discuss(at)cyber.law.harvard.edu
- Sender: owner-dvd-discuss(at)cyber.law.harvard.edu
Yeah, it is acceptable to record _for_personal_use_ broadcast
or even cable programming ... but you can't sell that copy
since you never bought anything. That's still the difference.
In addition, the pay-per-view model of broadcasting (primarily
on cable or sattelite) relies on scrambling the signal and only
unscrambling for customers that have paid for that show. _that_
is where the digital content control mechanisms have a parallel
in the internet world. streamed "pay per view" content can (and
arguably should) be encrypted, w/ only authorized viewers able
to decrypt (view) it.
Content that I have paid for in a "first sale" manner should
_not_ be locked up by encryption or anything else.
-Richard M. Hartman
186,000 mi./sec ... not just a good idea, it's the LAW!
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Noah Silva [mailto:email@example.com]
> Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2002 2:24 PM
> To: firstname.lastname@example.org
> Subject: RE: [dvd-discuss] Slightly OT - Japanese copyrights
> I'm sorry, but the whole concept of "broadcast" is bogus to me,
> especially on the computer. Anything coming in can very easily be
> saved. I can save the _streamed_ contents from an internet "radio
> station" "broadcast" (and have from wolf fm before) quite easily. IF
> oyu can't, it is an artificial limitation enforced by the player, not
> the technology. Also, since multicast isn't even being used,
> a specific
> copy is being sent to each person.
> Since it is already known to be acceptible for me to record
> the radio or
> tv, nobody should be able to complain.
> -- noah silva
> On Fri, 2002-03-01 at 12:17, Richard Hartman wrote:
> > I think there is a difference between a product that is
> > delivered by download (in which case you actually did
> > "buy" something) and broadcast content. The equivilant
> > on the internet of broadcast would be streamed. It is
> > never _intended_ that you have a copy of a streamed
> > program. Any time you view it, it comes off _their_
> > servers. Otoh, if content is delivered by download
> > you _are_ intended to have a copy ... it's just BYOM
> > (Bring Your Own Media).
> > Trying to bring this 'round to how the DMCA applies:
> > digital control mechanisms on things that I _am_
> > intended to have a copy of: unacceptable.
> > digital control mechanisms on things that I am _not_
> > intended to have a copy of: acceptable.
> > --
> > -Richard M. Hartman
> > email@example.com
> > 186,000 mi./sec ... not just a good idea, it's the LAW!