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Re: [dvd-discuss] Geeks in government: A good idea?
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- Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2002 13:10:01 -0700
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On 18 Aug 2002 at 18:16, Jon Lech Johansen wrote:
Date sent: Sun, 18 Aug 2002 18:16:11 +0200
From: Jon Lech Johansen <email@example.com>
Subject: Re: [dvd-discuss] Geeks in government: A good idea?
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> On Sun, Aug 18, 2002 at 09:48:22AM +0200, Tom (email@example.com) wrote:
> > correct. While I have to agree on many of Jons points, I'm fairly sure
> > on this one: That the DeCSS battle was not won in NY (obviously) and
> > neither in California, but on the internet. If you have 15000 download
> > locations, what does the opinion of a NY court matter?
Only if the civil disobedience is massive-not ones or twos or thousands but
millions-in the USA alone. Hundreds of millions worldwide.
> Not everyone considers that the most important objective. RedHat doesn't
> care that they can download the software. They want to include it in
> their distribution. Eric Corley doesn't care that he can download the
> software. He wants to make it available himself, as well as telling
> others that they can find it elsewhere. If we disregard the CSS issue
> for a moment, we're still left with the fact that the Land of the
> Free(TM) is preventing one of their citizens from using the <a href>
That is the issue. It is not about downloading but about talking about it.
> Writing code is important, but so is fighting for RedHat's right to
> distribute said code.
And discussing it. CSS is a flawed cryto system. While there is little to be
gained by studying it now since its flaws were pretty obvious after Frank
Stevenson's analysis (and I am not disparaging that or the RE that went into
DeCSS ). THe important thing is the ability TO STUDY and DISCUSS.
> Jon Johansen
> MR. LEVY: I'm sorry, your Honor. I actually have a technology expert
> with me. Would the Court like to or would they agree to hear a very
> brief statement on this point from that expert?
> THE COURT: No. -- MPAA v. Reimerdes injunction hearing, 2000/01/21